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Alyth Nerun Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE. 224	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:33:00 - [61] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Dusties have essentially paid to play a beta for a game on a different console that they may or may not get a transfer to, and might not even be able to play. You had to pay to play a game that is free to play?
Noriko Mai 1266	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:34:00 - [62] - Quote It was just for marketing and hype. Later in the stream CCP Seagul said "Everything player build should be destructible"
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 5159	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:38:00 - [63] - Quote Alyth Nerun wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Dusties have essentially paid to play a beta for a game on a different console that they may or may not get a transfer to, and might not even be able to play. You had to pay to play a game that is free to play? SONY and CCP held a gun to their heads and everything. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Noriko Mai 1266	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:43:00 - [64] - Quote I've found a secret tape of Dust players arguing about CCP's decision. Exclusive video HERE
Noriko Mai 1268	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:46:00 - [65] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Noriko Mai wrote: Doc Fury wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: And they had a micro-transaction event for SP THIS WEEK. Spend more money, get more SP. And then you can use the SP on.... nothing, because a lot of the players will be unable to make the move to PC. Cash grab. This might help: LINK BROKEN! WANT LAUGH! Fixed thx
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys 1729	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:50:00 - [66] - Quote So we might one day get a decent fps with reasonable eve integration? How exactly is that a bad thing? Granted, there's probably a long way to go before it becomes a serious competitor to planetside 2, this is a step in the right direction. Also, thanks for beta testing it.
Thead Enco 47th Ronin 164	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:51:00 - [67] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: So you guys don't think that the lack of any significant dust announcments doesn't signal the end of dust? You really think they are going to develop two shooters simultaneously? CCP is STILL selling Aurum boosters to those dusties that don't know about the announcements. Many of them will never be able to use their SP once it gets the PC port ( Gaming PCs are kind of expensive, as well as the alternatives to computers people find in smart phones and tablets) you can build out a rig for about $700 cry harder -á"A Lannister always pays his debts." -áTyrion Lannister

ISD LackOfFaith ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1374	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:34:00 - [68] - Quote FYI: This thread is now the designated thread to consolidate discussion of the difficult situation resulting from the announcement of Project Legion. Any other threads on the topic will be locked as redundant. Please report them as you see them. Anyway, carry on. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.

Wesley Otsdarva Asuratech Industrial Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden 43	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 - [69] - Quote Ok, so My biggest concerns over this whole fiasco are. 1. How will CCP respond to this? Because being a dust player. Dust is dead at this point. Nobody wants to put time and energy into a game that will be canned soon. 2. Did the CPM know about it? (yes our crappy non voted in Dust version of CSM) Did they know that it was going to be canned? And if so, why didn't they tell us about it. (who cares about NDA when the game you are representing will be destroyed) To me its just a REALLY big screw up on CCP. There are people who travelled to Iceland for DUST 514. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159617 There is one of them. What will you do now CCP? All you had left was the diehard fans, and now they will be leaving. I actually pulled out a glass and gave a small toast as I initiated the biomass process on my clones.
Brooks Puuntai Solar Nexus. 1836	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:43:00 - [70] - Quote Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5682	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:43:00 - [71] - Quote Wesley Otsdarva wrote: What will you do now CCP? All you had left was the diehard fans, and now they will be leaving. I actually pulled out a glass and gave a small toast as I initiated the biomass process on my clones. If you already knew that all they left was the diehard fans, how on earth did this come as a surprise? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
CompleteFailure Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 135	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:46:00 - [72] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Dusties have essentially paid to play a beta for a game on a different console that they may or may not get a transfer to, and might not even be able to play. Given the sad state of dust game play (I've been playing since closed beta, on the community and promises), it isn't really a stretch to say that dust is a legion beta. Right, but it wasn't advertised as a beta for a future project. It was advertised as a full release once its own beta phase ended. Had it been advertised as a beta from the get-go, there might not be the level of rage we're seeing now.
Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:49:00 - [73] - Quote We've had a lot of discussion internally about the developments of the day. The biggest problem that we have as a community, is that the dust keynote didn't say enough about the future of the game we have been playing. There are too many unanswered questions, and the PR debacle that has come out of it(We have dust guys biomassing because of it), has brought an already weakly populated game to it's knees. When do you plan on making the switch to Legion? Is there going to be a PS4 version? Are we going to be able to keep our assets/SP? Are you pulling the plug on dust in the short term(Everyone in the dust community has interpreted lack of dust info at it's keynote as exactly that)? How do you justify selling SP boosters to people that will not be able to play your game long term? The sales are STILL GOING. Can we expect any new content to DUST? Are you going to fix the problems with what we already have at least? CCP needed to answer ALL of these questions. The dust player base is evaporating right now. We have nothing to tell our guys but "Wait, maybe it will get better", which itself of what we were saying before fanfeset;"Just wait until fanfest, maybe they will fix it"
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 473	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:51:00 - [74] - Quote Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Ok, so My biggest concerns over this whole fiasco are. 1. How will CCP respond to this? Because being a dust player. Dust is dead at this point. Nobody wants to put time and energy into a game that will be canned soon. 2. Did the CPM know about it? (yes our crappy non voted in Dust version of CSM) Did they know that it was going to be canned? And if so, why didn't they tell us about it. (who cares about NDA when the game you are representing will be destroyed) To me its just a REALLY big screw up on CCP. There are people who travelled to Iceland for DUST 514. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159617 There is one of them. What will you do now CCP? All you had left was the diehard fans, and now they will be leaving. I actually pulled out a glass and gave a small toast as I initiated the biomass process on my clones. i can only answer 2) OFC the CPM AND the CSM knew this. It was in the summer minutes for the CSM, thsi was the 'Fifth project' that was listed there. Unless they announce something tomorrow. And they have to care about the NDA. Or ccp coudl have a) sued them into the ground. or b) no one else would have EVER given them access to NDA information again.
Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:52:00 - [75] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. They didn't show us anything that confirmed their commitment to dust. There is no way we could interpret it as anything but that they aren't. I just don't see them working on both simultaneously... They have had enough problems getting ONE of them to work, nevermind two.
DaReaper Net 7 The Last Brigade 473	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:52:00 - [76] - Quote Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Ok, so My biggest concerns over this whole fiasco are. 1. How will CCP respond to this? Because being a dust player. Dust is dead at this point. Nobody wants to put time and energy into a game that will be canned soon. 2. Did the CPM know about it? (yes our crappy non voted in Dust version of CSM) Did they know that it was going to be canned? And if so, why didn't they tell us about it. (who cares about NDA when the game you are representing will be destroyed) To me its just a REALLY big screw up on CCP. There are people who travelled to Iceland for DUST 514. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159617 There is one of them. What will you do now CCP? All you had left was the diehard fans, and now they will be leaving. I actually pulled out a glass and gave a small toast as I initiated the biomass process on my clones. second reply: Here si the thing, if Legion is an improved Dust on PC, they will get more customers. So in theory, if they get double the people, then meh. I agree it was the wrong way to handle this. They either needed to admit tis dead, or show a transition, at least give you guys a big bone till legion is a sure thing.
Wesley Otsdarva Asuratech Industrial Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden 43	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:53:00 - [77] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 5683	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:53:00 - [78] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. They didn't show us anything that confirmed their commitment to dust. There is no way we could interpret it as anything but that they aren't. I just don't see them working on both simultaneously... They have had enough problems getting ONE of them to work, nevermind two. They showed that, rather than abandon the entire failing enterprise like they did with WoD, they are doing their best to keep it alive in some potentially sustainable form. That's a kind of commitment. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." -áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys 1730	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:58:00 - [79] - Quote Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything. So....there's absolutely nothing from CCP stating that they're halting work on dust514? All of the characters you have on dust will remain in dust, what's the problem? If legion is a separate entity from dust, why should there be any character transfer at all? If I shudder buy Call of Duty for the PS4 and then for the PC, I won't get to transfer all of my unlocked weapons/killstreaks/prestiges/whatever from PS4 to PC. Different platform and all that.
Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:59:00 - [80] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. They didn't show us anything that confirmed their commitment to dust. There is no way we could interpret it as anything but that they aren't. I just don't see them working on both simultaneously... They have had enough problems getting ONE of them to work, nevermind two. They showed that, rather than abandon the entire failing enterprise like they did with WoD, they are doing their best to keep it alive in some potentially sustainable form. That's a kind of commitment. They are committed to making a FPS, but they haven't showed a commitment to the community that populates their current one. A lot of pure eve players are happy about the move, and it makes sense from a business perspective. But the entire way this was gone about was wrong. They should not still be monetizing dust if it has no future. They NEED to make ALL of these things clear.

Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:02:00 - [81] - Quote PotatoOverdose wrote: Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything. So....there's absolutely nothing from CCP stating that they're halting work on dust514? All of the characters you have on dust will remain in dust, what's the problem? If legion is a separate entity from dust, why should there be any character transfer at all? If I shudder buy Call of Duty for the PS4 and then for the PC, I won't get to transfer all of my unlocked weapons/killstreaks/prestiges/whatever from PS4 to PC. Different platform and all that. We were promised integration of dust/eve. We were promised PVE, a player market, all sorts of things. And we put up with all the problems of dust, in the hopes that one day we would get to have what we were promised. If we are to believe that is still going to happen, CCP needs to EXPLICITLY say so. They need to be transparent about this now.
Wesley Otsdarva Asuratech Industrial Corp Rebel Alliance of New Eden 44	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:02:00 - [82] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: Dust 514 has been one failure and mistake after the next. They absolutely needed to rebrand it, and get off the PS3. But if the same team is working on it, Legion will be a failure too. I wouldn't expect the pessimism expressed here to be understood by the players of the modern eve... You would have to have actually played dust for the last year to truly understand it. It is garbage. They reintroduce the same old bugs, and balance issues with every new patch. The only reason any of the dusties play it, is the promises CCP made for it, and the community that built up around those promises. This. This is the truth.
CompleteFailure Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 135	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:04:00 - [83] - Quote Wesley Otsdarva wrote: To me its just a REALLY big screw up on CCP. There are people who travelled to Iceland for DUST 514. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159617 There is one of them. That's just...disgusting. Funding a trip to any convention isn't cheap, especially when you're traveling internationally. And that guy didn't just go himself, he brought his family. I don't think there's any clearer indication of how dedicated he was to Dust. As a two-time Eve Vegas attendee, I would be absolutely gutted if the event was hyped specifically to me, only to find out Eve was being scrapped. If they knew they were scrapping Dust, why in the hell would they specifically hype the event to Dust players? I really wish I had a Sony ID to log into that forum, just so I could offer my sympathy and support to that dude. I've never once played Dust, but I hope that guy knows he's got support on this side of the universe. If anyone here has the ability to post there, please pass this on on behalf of myself and other Eve-only players who are just as appalled as I am. F***ing shame on you, CCP.
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys 1731	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:07:00 - [84] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: PotatoOverdose wrote: So....there's absolutely nothing from CCP stating that they're halting work on dust514? All of the characters you have on dust will remain in dust, what's the problem? If legion is a separate entity from dust, why should there be any character transfer at all? If I shudder buy Call of Duty for the PS4 and then for the PC, I won't get to transfer all of my unlocked weapons/killstreaks/prestiges/whatever from PS4 to PC. Different platform and all that. We were promised integration of dust/eve. We were promised PVE, a player market, all sorts of things. And we put up with all the problems of dust, in the hopes that one day we would get to have what we were promised. If we are to believe that is still going to happen, CCP needs to EXPLICITLY say so. They need to be transparent about this now. Almost every single developer on the face of the planet has, at one point or another, made promises they couldn't or wouldn't keep (e.g. the "radiant" A.I. in Bethesda games). It's par for the course, and tbh CCP has raised it to an art form. I could give you a laundry list of features that never made it into Eve, or fixes that were promised but never done. Deal with it.
Brooks Puuntai Solar Nexus. 1836	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:13:00 - [85] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: They didn't show us anything that confirmed their commitment to dust. There is no way we could interpret it as anything but that they aren't. I just don't see them working on both simultaneously... They have had enough problems getting ONE of them to work, nevermind two. Still doesn't mean that PS3 version is canned. As I stated while they maybe working on Legion, they still have a crew working on Dust. Some improvements from the former can and might be used on the latter. The simple fact that CCP has decided to even port over to the PC shows there is still hope for the PS3 version and the IP in general. Shockingly enough there are some who prefer console over PC and some who prefer PC over console, so having the ability to market to both can be beneficial I can see how can be interpreted wrong, but still not enough to assume CCP is axing Dust. However now DUST players know how many Eve players feel when it comes to FanFest over the past few years. Most keynotes and features where about DUST or about ways of linking DUST to Eve. Which is also ironic because it sounds like CCP pissed in both bases cheerios by screwing over Eve and not delivering to Dust. Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything. They don't know because there is probably no plans to shut down the PS3 version. The PC version is separate from the PS3 version in regards to the teams working on them. This all still sounds like paranoia simply because CCP didn't pay as much attention to Dust as they wanted. Not that Dust is being shut down. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden
Erufen Rito The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People 204	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:19:00 - [86] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: PotatoOverdose wrote: Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything. So....there's absolutely nothing from CCP stating that they're halting work on dust514? All of the characters you have on dust will remain in dust, what's the problem? If legion is a separate entity from dust, why should there be any character transfer at all? If I shudder buy Call of Duty for the PS4 and then for the PC, I won't get to transfer all of my unlocked weapons/killstreaks/prestiges/whatever from PS4 to PC. Different platform and all that. We were promised integration of dust/eve. We were promised PVE, a player market, all sorts of things. And we put up with all the problems of dust, in the hopes that one day we would get to have what we were promised. If we are to believe that is still going to happen, CCP needs to EXPLICITLY say so. They need to be transparent about this now. I'm pretty sure they were very transparent, and explicitly so. They said they would continue building on dust for the forseable future. Will that forseable future be "less than a year from now"? Possibly, but that is more towards the fact that the PS3 is on it's way out of the market. They also said that Legion will not be replacing dust, but rather building from it. Aaaand you played a Beta, not a released title. I'm sure you havent been in many betas, because of the way your tears flow, but let me just tell you that not a lot of them make it as launch titles, and not all of the ones that do continue with their business model Ask Tera, they went from P2P to P2WF2P, or MWO This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165
Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:19:00 - [87] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: They didn't show us anything that confirmed their commitment to dust. There is no way we could interpret it as anything but that they aren't. I just don't see them working on both simultaneously... They have had enough problems getting ONE of them to work, nevermind two. Still doesn't mean that PS3 version is canned. As I stated while they maybe working on Legion, they still have a crew working on Dust. Some improvements from the former can and might be used on the latter. The simple fact that CCP has decided to even port over to the PC shows there is still hope for the PS3 version and the IP in general. Shockingly enough there are some who prefer console over PC and some who prefer PC over console, so having the ability to market to both can be beneficial I see how this can be interpreted wrong, but still not enough to assume CCP is axing Dust. However now DUST players know how many Eve players feel when it comes to FanFest over the past few years. Most keynotes and features where about DUST or about ways of linking DUST to Eve. Which is also ironic because it sounds like CCP pissed in both bases cheerios by screwing over Eve and not delivering to Dust. Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything. They don't know because there is probably no plans to shut down the PS3 version. The PC version is separate from the PS3 version in regards to the teams working on them. This all still sounds like paranoia simply because CCP didn't pay as much attention to Dust as they wanted. Not that Dust is being shut down. Do you really think they are going to keep TWO FPSs running in tandem with eve, developing BOTH of them? The majority of the dust community doesn't. And nothing about the keynote gave them any hope for such. This is something that CCP needs to clarify.
Fiddlestax Atruin Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:21:00 - [88] - Quote Erufen Rito wrote: Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: PotatoOverdose wrote: Wesley Otsdarva wrote: Brooks Puuntai wrote: Still confused on how porting and working on Legion some how means the end of DUST on PS3. In a Announcement on the DUST website states that they will both have teams working on them respectively. If anything, in the way DUST paved the way for Legion, the Legion team could come up with things that can be incorporated into DUST and vica versa. Again didn't see the stream so not entirely sure what was said, but seems like it is unnecessary paranoia. Because they don't even know if they will be able to transfer characters over. And also it'd be like incarna, except instead of WiS. You get EVE 2.0, but it's on Mac OS only. They took the playerbase that supported the game and kept it alive. And threw them under the Madrugar. Moving it to a different platform without even the promise of the time you spent being worth anything. So....there's absolutely nothing from CCP stating that they're halting work on dust514? All of the characters you have on dust will remain in dust, what's the problem? If legion is a separate entity from dust, why should there be any character transfer at all? If I shudder buy Call of Duty for the PS4 and then for the PC, I won't get to transfer all of my unlocked weapons/killstreaks/prestiges/whatever from PS4 to PC. Different platform and all that. We were promised integration of dust/eve. We were promised PVE, a player market, all sorts of things. And we put up with all the problems of dust, in the hopes that one day we would get to have what we were promised. If we are to believe that is still going to happen, CCP needs to EXPLICITLY say so. They need to be transparent about this now. I'm pretty sure they were very transparent, and explicitly so. They said they would continue building on dust for the forseable future. Will that forseable future be "less than a year from now"? Possibly, but that is more towards the fact that the PS3 is on it's way out of the market. They also said that Legion will not be replacing dust, but rather building from it. Aaaand you played a Beta, not a released title. I'm sure you havent been in many betas, because of the way your tears flow, but let me just tell you that not a lot of them make it as launch titles, and not all of the ones that do continue with their business model Ask Tera, they went from P2P to P2WF2P, or MWO Dust was "released" last year my friend. I played the beta as well. In other news, Sony is doing refunds for AUR bought within the last few months, and I have heard of cases were they are doing a full refund for all dust related purchases over the years. I am going to call myself and see how that is going
Noriko Mai 1275	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:23:00 - [89] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: [..]We were promised [..] we were promised [..] They need to be transparent about this now. Are you new here? We were promised WIS, ship skins, player run stations, player build stargates, modular POSes, dynamic missions, a reliable API, [insert random brain farts] from CCP marketing...
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 5173	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:23:00 - [90] - Quote Fiddlestax Atruin wrote: In other news, Sony is doing refunds for AUR bought within the last few months, and I have heard of cases were they are doing a full refund for all dust related purchases over the years. I am going to call myself and see how that is going Probably not much of a dent in their wallet to have to give refunds out to a few dozen players. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.



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