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Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:18:00 -
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AWESOME!!! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:20:00 -
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GǪmaybeGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Marsha Mallow
435
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:21:00 -
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Aw FFS I HATE my character names
*runs off to make another F&I name change thread TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Dave Stark
5230
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:21:00 -
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so many wasted sps |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
374
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:21:00 -
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ninja!
but yes...
1 char > 1 client > all games.
PC Master Race Rejoice! "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13100
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:22:00 -
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Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Doireen Kaundur
Minmatar Republic
873
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:23:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!!
can you elaborate for those of us not plugged in to Fanfest?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5243
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:24:00 -
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And a touch screen character creator to rule them all.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1846
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:24:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:ninja!
but yes...
1 char > 1 client launcher > all games.
PC Master Race Rejoice!
Doubt they can do all in a single client, guessing this was announced in the Keynote which I missed so could be wrong. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Noriko Mai
1298
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:25:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!! can you elaborate for those of us not plugged in to Fanfest? Plan is to have your char be able to "change clothes" and go in FPS mode in Legion |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21494
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:25:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!! can you elaborate for those of us not plugged in to Fanfest? The CTO just presented a vision of a future state where you would be able to go into EVE, Dust/Legion and Valkyrie using the same in-game identity from a shared entry point.
Emphasis of GÇ£visionGÇ¥ and GÇ£futureGÇ¥. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Noriko Mai
1300
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:26:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:And a touch screen character creator to rule them all. Changing boob size with touch all day |
Noriko Mai
1300
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:26:00 -
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And they want to remove downtime. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5246
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:28:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:And they want to remove downtime.
Segregating character services from TQ (as proposed) could make that *possible*.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1158
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:28:00 -
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for emphasis Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Doireen Kaundur
Minmatar Republic
873
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!! can you elaborate for those of us not plugged in to Fanfest? The CTO just presented a vision of a future state where you would be able to go into EVE, Dust/Legion and Valkyrie using the same in-game identity from a shared entry point. Emphasis of GÇ£visionGÇ¥ and GÇ£futureGÇ¥.
Thank you.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9497
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:30:00 -
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This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read from CCP. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1158
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read from CCP. grr innovation Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5246
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:33:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read from CCP. grr innovation
If they decouple the player services it means less load on TQ, so grrr bigfights too.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Marsha Mallow
437
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read from CCP. Er, $1000 dollah jeans? TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1159
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:34:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read from CCP. Er, $1000 dollah jeans? err, vampires Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Meryl SinGarda
Raytheon Intergalactic Research Gatekeepers Universe
876
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:34:00 -
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If that's true then cool, my character would look hot in a combat suit I am a spaceship! |
Marsha Mallow
437
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:35:00 -
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Dust for Console only TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3177
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:38:00 -
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That's what I always wanted. A cross game coherent gameworld where you can fluidly switch between games without leaving the premises. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1159
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:40:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:That's what I always wanted. A cross game coherent gameworld where you can fluidly switch between games without leaving the premises. or toon Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
225
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:47:00 -
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But but but...I love the character creator so much that is why I make new alts and this forum posting alt!
I love the character creator so much I wish I could remake other peoples avatars. |
Faenir Antollare
University of Caille Gallente Federation
269
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:49:00 -
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Wow, pretty cool CCP, thank you :) |
Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
78
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:49:00 -
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as a ex DUST player and EVE player, I have to say: "Holy ****, back walking batman!" my dream come true! one identity at last! I am EVE UNIVERSE player at last! |
Agonising Ecstacy
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:51:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:And they want to remove downtime.
Think that the Single Sign On Character Thingy (tm) will be a SEPARATE service that can exist without downtime. Eve will still have a downtime. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
3189
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:04:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!!
I hope Legion will not become some F2P crap like it was hinted in the survey! Tie it to EVE sub. +5 bucks or something.
This. I'm more than willing to feed CCP a subscription. (Obviously) Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki ~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer ~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
652
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:21:00 -
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This is very cool and the way forward.
Having said that, CCP just threw 10 years worth of lore out the window. Why would a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, voluntarily go and do grunt work or sit in a drone? And turning it around, why does a stupid grunt soldier suddenly have the ability to become a pod pilot? Way to kill not only 1, but 2 story lines. Also the entire cloning thing is becoming old really fast. It's THE most overused plot device in the entire EVE universe. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1656
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:23:00 -
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stealth WiS? That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Noriko Mai
1303
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:23:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:This is very cool and the way forward.
Having said that, CCP just threw 10 years worth of lore out the window. Why would a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, voluntarily go and do grunt work or sit in a drone? And turning it around, why does a stupid grunt soldier suddenly have the ability to become a pod pilot? Way to kill not only 1, but 2 story lines. Also the entire cloning thing is becoming old really fast. It's THE most overused plot device in the entire EVE universe. Story evolved and a pirate faction discovered a technology for this. It was not possible before. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
383
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:32:00 -
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also if you got dust 514 character you'll be able to migrate into "Legion" "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Dave Stark
5235
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:34:00 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:also if you got dust 514 character you'll be able to migrate into "Legion"
people with ps3s don't have computers. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
383
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:35:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:also if you got dust 514 character you'll be able to migrate into "Legion" people with ps3s don't have computers.
I said people not console peasants. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
462
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:42:00 -
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I just like the idea that we can all become more than toaster hybrids and actually be running and shooting toasters.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3219
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:46:00 -
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I wonder if they would let me roll my DUST char into my EvE main. That would be really sweet...
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
1166
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:46:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:also if you got dust 514 character you'll be able to migrate into "Legion" people with ps3s don't have computers. Hay, don't be slagging my blue ray player! Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á sig by Doc Fury -¬ 2014 Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:49:00 -
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One account, all access please (dont care what it costs) |
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Jur Tissant
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.05.03 19:56:00 -
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I wouldn't mind this. After all, ground combat makes up like half of the startup cinematic...
However, to keep things balanced between EVE subscribers and people just playing Legion, they should have two separate skill queues (if skills work similarly in Legion). |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6392
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:06:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:This is very cool and the way forward.
Having said that, CCP just threw 10 years worth of lore out the window. Why would a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, voluntarily go and do grunt work or sit in a drone? And turning it around, why does a stupid grunt soldier suddenly have the ability to become a pod pilot? Way to kill not only 1, but 2 story lines. Also the entire cloning thing is becoming old really fast. It's THE most overused plot device in the entire EVE universe. Because they feel like it? I never got why people get so attached to the idea, that the game lore would be some kind of limiting factor for game design. The lore is there to explain the existing reality and limitations with a bit of flavor, but it's just words on paper. Lore is largely slave to gameplay. Even if you switch that around, the end result is the same. A few additional paragraphs will remove that artificial limitation without creating any conflict with the lore. If you feel lazy, you can just add something like: "X wasn't previously possible because of A and B, but recent technological advances have removed such limitation". It would then actually be against the lore to not allow such transfers for the players, so therefore it must be allowed. Either way problem solved. |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1847
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:15:00 -
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With cloning grants immortality, immortality gets boring if you just do the same thing. you gotta switch things up from time to time. Though CCP stop caring about lore long ago, not really a surprise, and not that big of a deal. CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
548
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:23:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:With cloning grants immortality, immortality gets boring if you just do the same thing. you gotta switch things up from time to time. Though CCP stop caring about lore long ago, not really a surprise, and not that big of a deal.
Exactly this. When you're immortal and death doesn't really matter to you, you do whatever you feel like doing if you're that kind of person. On the other side, there might also be immortals who simply enjoy the freedom given to them to excel in several fields and not just one - Not all tasks can be forced to completion with starships.
Aside from that, people are only given the option to play in Legion and Valkyrie with the same character, they're not being forced to. They can still stay snobs if they want to :)
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
548
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:24:00 -
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Gogela wrote:I wonder if they would let me roll my DUST char into my EvE main. That would be really sweet...
I was wondering this aswell.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1375
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:25:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:I wouldn't mind this. After all, ground combat makes up like half of the startup cinematic...
However, to keep things balanced between EVE subscribers and people just playing Legion, they should have two separate skill queues (if skills work similarly in Legion).
You can have combat clone beside of your pilot clone. So two sets of skillsets. Guristas virtualization will make your other skillset progress, when you are in other clone. so not stopping learning anytime. One consciousnes, two skillsets. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1432
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:30:00 -
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Great stuff. I'd be happy to pay a larger sub for access to all games with a unified skill queue.
i.e. make it so that energy management, targeting or shield skills are the same for all games. May need to have a skill point merge at some point so the existing dust characters can get the benefit of their training represented overall. This would probably mean that a lot of EVE veterans could start Dust with 'almost' max skills but little technique for FPS. Interesting times in New Eden |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1375
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:43:00 -
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I see it like that: You launch the EVE universe, then you have three options, Fighter pilot, capsuleer, and combat ground clone, the moment you choose one, think starting career, it will be your primary activity, and you would have to buy with ISK the Fighter or capsuleer clone just like you buy the clones in EVE. Then clones in every part of eve universe would take their own way with skillsets and ISK price. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
389
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:47:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:I see it like that: You launch the EVE universe, then you have three options, Fighter pilot, capsuleer, and combat ground clone, the moment you choose one, think starting career, it will be your primary activity, and you would have to buy with ISK the Fighter or capsuleer clone just like you buy the clones in EVE. Then clones in every part of eve universe would take their own way with skillsets and ISK price.
that's the plan. with one mail box and contacts and such... "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
313
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Posted - 2014.05.03 20:57:00 -
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While this sounds all well and good. CCP's history of delivering pipe dreams from Fanfest is about as good as my kill board. Fanfest typically shows off some Jesus feature that gets everyone excited and then CCP shift gears to focus on something else. It's just their nature. While what they propose would be interesting, I'll reserve my excitement for tangible product. After all they still need to fix so much of their broken game as it is. |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3149
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:02:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:This is very cool and the way forward.
Having said that, CCP just threw 10 years worth of lore out the window. Why would a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, voluntarily go and do grunt work or sit in a drone? And turning it around, why does a stupid grunt soldier suddenly have the ability to become a pod pilot? Way to kill not only 1, but 2 story lines. Also the entire cloning thing is becoming old really fast. It's THE most overused plot device in the entire EVE universe. cloning's always been central to the story it's half of what makes a capsuleer so powerful. the dust and valk guys aren't 'grunts', either
i imagine that our character can jump to a clone with different abilities, different skillbooks
i like the 'one identity' thing, it underscores the 'one game, one universe' idea |
Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
79
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:03:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:also if you got dust 514 character you'll be able to migrate into "Legion" people with ps3s don't have computers. I have ps3 ps2 ps1 xbox xbox360 (and Kinect) psp N64 gamecube and Wii And I still have 2 PCs and a MAC
What I don't have is a life... WTB life |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
390
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:05:00 -
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Pirmasis Sparagas wrote:\ people with ps3s don't have computers. I have ps3 ps2 ps1 xbox xbox360 (and Kinect) psp N64 gamecube and Wii And I still have 2 PCs and a MAC
What I don't have is a life... WTB life[/quote]
Try on candy Crash forums. "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1376
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Posted - 2014.05.03 21:17:00 -
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More details: alts, we now have alts in EVE, so basically we should get new identity with a sum of 3 for one account in eve universe, for us these would be all 3 capsuleer ones, and every one could jump to a new career. One wallet for aurum and ISK. One economy, one market, just as they have been talking from beginning. That I want to see. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1109
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Posted - 2014.05.03 22:22:00 -
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Now... this could be interesting. Running around the battlefield with this name might make people lose concentration for a split second allowing me to shoot them in the face. |
Silent Rambo
Legion of Seven
160
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:08:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!!
I hope Legion will not become some F2P crap like it was hinted in the survey! Tie it to EVE sub. +5 bucks or something.
Its going to basically be an upgraded Dust, and its also run by management experienced in micro-transactions. If this isn't free to play, I would be very surprised. You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies? |
Noriko Mai
1309
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:24:00 -
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Silent Rambo wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!!
I hope Legion will not become some F2P crap like it was hinted in the survey! Tie it to EVE sub. +5 bucks or something. Its going to basically be an upgraded Dust, and its also run by management experienced in micro-transactions. If this isn't free to play, I would be very surprised. If it will be free to play, it will have microtransactions and will fail horribly! |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
195
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:39:00 -
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Not too excited about playing an FPS that has a training queue. And requires ISK management and modules and fitting and whatnot. And has micro transactions. But I'll give it a try at least. |
okst666
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
264
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:54:00 -
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I wonder how they explain it lore-wise.
DUST-clone technology is something completly different* from Capsuleer Clone Stuff and about Legion noone really knows yet.
How can I jump with my character that resides in a wormhole without scanned exits to a character on a planet shooting people with pistols and stuff? [X] < Nail here for new monitor |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
2931
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!! can you elaborate for those of us not plugged in to Fanfest? The CTO just presented a vision of a future state where you would be able to go into EVE, Dust/Legion and Valkyrie using the same in-game identity from a shared entry point. Emphasis of GÇ£visionGÇ¥ and GÇ£futureGÇ¥. That's not technically hard. The EVE client and the launcher are two different apps. The launcher can be configured to launch any number of games they wish to script into it, and using a single account log-in.
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Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
264
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:58:00 -
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Complete advocate of a premium sub for all access (or discounts if you don't want access to all three titles).
Let the scrubs enjoy their F2P crap. I'd rather pay for some quality thanks. :) Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
Kymn Mahn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.05.03 23:59:00 -
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meh~~~~~ |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2014.05.04 00:43:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Having said that, CCP just threw 10 years worth of lore out the window. Why would a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, voluntarily go and do grunt work or sit in a drone? And turning it around, why does a stupid grunt soldier suddenly have the ability to become a pod pilot? Way to kill not only 1, but 2 story lines. Also the entire cloning thing is becoming old really fast. It's THE most overused plot device in the entire EVE universe.
The cloning thing is the entire foundation of the EVE universe that we play in.
The story is advancing: in the old days (the last ten years) we were using hand-me-down technology from the Jove which was specially downgraded to not give away too many secrets. Now there is The Other waging war against the Jove, leading us into Airikis (the right name's out there somewhere) to cannibalise the Sleepers. The Sleepers are Jove living in a VR world, downloading their consciousness to whichever body they want to use (but they usually say in VR space because that's more interesting).
One thing I'm curious about is how CCP intend to integrate the gameplay of EVE and Valkyrie. Valkyrie is an action space shooter, EVE is a tactical and strategic game played at a much lower clock frequency. Using DUST Bunnies to board ships and stations has been discussed before. Now it's just a matter of execution :) Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Nariya Kentaya
State Protectorate Caldari State
1233
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Posted - 2014.05.04 01:33:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!! can you elaborate for those of us not plugged in to Fanfest? Plan is to have your char be able to "change clothes" and go in FPS mode in Legion You know its just going to be half the dudes swapping into Oculus/Valkyrie mode to stare at their character's breasts |
Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
528
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Posted - 2014.05.04 01:41:00 -
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Oh man this is going to be great. Owning peeps in space and on the ground. Eve: underwater adventures next for underwater hand-to-hamd fighting. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1751
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Posted - 2014.05.04 01:51:00 -
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... dreams of a new "Captain's Quarters" or "Corporate Lounge" in "LEGION"... and all the possibilities of easy character porting from one game to the other, and back, anytime.
... sighs a sexy little sigh and dreams some more....
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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Adunh Slavy
1373
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:18:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:Oh man this is going to be great. Owning peeps in space and on the ground. Eve: underwater adventures next for underwater hand-to-hamd fighting.
I fought a ham once, it lost. Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9504
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:20:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Now there is The Other waging war against the Jove, leading us into Airikis (the right name's out there somewhere) Anoikis "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Sibyyl
638
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:27:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:Oh man this is going to be great. Owning peeps in space and on the ground. Eve: underwater adventures next for underwater hand-to-hamd fighting. Looking forward to the Iron Chef expansion, where you can out-saut+¬e other capsuleers with your AUR-enhanced gourmet recipes. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |
London
Justified Chaos
60
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:41:00 -
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I think OP misunderstood (unless I got it wrong?). It's not one character, it's one account for all 3 games. Perhaps much like Blizzard does it?
I can't imagine that a capsuleer would suddenly become a ground grunt or fighter pilot, etc... |
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
478
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:47:00 -
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London wrote:I think OP misunderstood (unless I got it wrong?). It's not one character, it's one account for all 3 games. Perhaps much like Blizzard does it?
I can't imagine that a capsular would suddenly become a ground grunt or fighter pilot, etc...
You misundrstand. Tofi said, the gruistas have figured out a way to send a consciousness into four different clones. I.e. four different games, same person. They alsi mentioned playing all three simultaneously, no idea how that would work as it was an aside. You pretty much launch the launchet and chose which clone you with to activate. Up to four. I wonder if ccp has anothet game in hiding |
Beofryn Sedorak
37
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:57:00 -
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London wrote:I think OP misunderstood (unless I got it wrong?). It's not one character, it's one account for all 3 games. Perhaps much like Blizzard does it?
I can't imagine that a capsuleer would suddenly become a ground grunt or fighter pilot, etc...
The vision they presented was very specifically 1 character being able to play in any of the three games by jumping into the appropriate clone type. |
London
Justified Chaos
60
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:58:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:London wrote:I think OP misunderstood (unless I got it wrong?). It's not one character, it's one account for all 3 games. Perhaps much like Blizzard does it?
I can't imagine that a capsular would suddenly become a ground grunt or fighter pilot, etc...
You misundrstand. Tofi said, the gruistas have figured out a way to send a consciousness into four different clones. I.e. four different games, same person. They alsi mentioned playing all three simultaneously, no idea how that would work as it was an aside. You pretty much launch the launchet and chose which clone you with to activate. Up to four. I wonder if ccp has anothet game in hiding
Thanks, I'm not sure if I like this though. Just like one capsuleer can't do everything, I don't think a single character should be that multi-talented. It should simply be an account that controls multiple characters across the 3 games instead. When I jump into a Dust/Legion role.. i want to be that merc, not a high-brow space pilot pretending to also be a badass ground soldier.. :/ Just look at alts, this invalidates that whole idea...
I'm not an RPer, but I love the immersion and lore.. and this seems to 'gamey' to me. |
Beofryn Sedorak
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:01:00 -
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London wrote:DaReaper wrote:London wrote:I think OP misunderstood (unless I got it wrong?). It's not one character, it's one account for all 3 games. Perhaps much like Blizzard does it?
I can't imagine that a capsular would suddenly become a ground grunt or fighter pilot, etc...
You misundrstand. Tofi said, the gruistas have figured out a way to send a consciousness into four different clones. I.e. four different games, same person. They alsi mentioned playing all three simultaneously, no idea how that would work as it was an aside. You pretty much launch the launchet and chose which clone you with to activate. Up to four. I wonder if ccp has anothet game in hiding Thanks, I'm not sure if I like this though. Just like one capsuleer can't do everything, I don't think a single character should be that multi-talented. It should simply be an account that controls multiple characters across the 3 games instead. When I jump into a Dust/Legion role.. i want to be that merc, not a high-brow space pilot pretending to also be a badass ground soldier.. :/ Just look at alts, this invalidates that whole idea... I'm not an RPer, but I love the immersion and lore.. and this seems to 'gamey' to me.
Nothing will stop you from keeping one character for each game. |
Le Character
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:05:00 -
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this news is great and all, but
WHY DO I HAVE TO LOG OFF TO LOG IN A CHARACTER ON THE SAME ACCT.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
399
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:35:00 -
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Le Character wrote:
WHY DO I HAVE TO LOG OFF TO LOG IN A CHARACTER ON THE SAME ACCT.
so much this.
I just leave the launcher active so I only need to hit play button.
"What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5628
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Posted - 2014.05.04 05:37:00 -
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Heck I'd be satisfied if each one of my 3 characters on my account could be devoted to a different game.
It's almost like CCP planned this from the beginning, and provided our characters per account with this very thing in mind.
Yeah, okay, okay, so planning ahead has not exactly been CCP's strong point up til now... but still, it makes a good story.
Seriously, when you create an account you could either devote a character to each game.... or you could play all the games with one character and just progress more slowly because your training que is now split between them.
Of course, I haven't seen this stream yet... so maybe you'll have multiple training ques per the new Guristas tech, who knows.
I do agree that arguments that capsules wouldn't dirty their hands with other things are a bit silly. When you're virtually (pun intended) an immortal you can damn well do anything that interests you. So if you personally find the idea of jumping into a power suit and kicking ass, or climbing into a fighter craft exciting... so might your capsuleer alter ego. The only difference being that they could easily do so with no risk, while you can only experience it via a game.
Why would you ever think that an immortal would hesitate to take risks, or shy away from and exciting and dangerous activity.
They have all the time in the world to experience what ever type of adventure captures their fancy. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9505
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Posted - 2014.05.04 06:08:00 -
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London wrote:I'm not an RPer, but I love the immersion and lore.. and this seems to 'gamey' to me. It definitely does feel too "gamey". It gives EVE sort of an arcade feel... it makes me feel really unclean. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Seliah
0mega.
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Posted - 2014.05.04 07:15:00 -
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This whole thing is really great, as long as you're not forced to use the same character (per account) on all 3 games. I want to be able to have a capsuleer training skills on EVE and for example another character training Dust skills and Valkyrie skills at the same time. Each account should have the possibility to run 3 skill queues simultaneously, one for each game, on different characters.
Even if the ability to use the same character in all 3 games is justified lore-wise thanks to the Guristas, it should remain an option for the player. The whole point of this is to combine the 3 games into a single universe and give the same in-game character the ability to be in different bodies, but it's still the same mind and soul behind that. And from a roleplay point of view, a capsuleer character isn't necessarily someone who would engage in an activity such as Dust mercenary, or the other way around.
I hope CCP takes this into account ! From the keynote, it seemed like they envisioned a launcher where you first select your character, then your game. That doesn't make sense to me. You should first pick your game, then select which character you want to play it with. Just makes more sense and allows for more options. |
Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
462
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Posted - 2014.05.04 07:47:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:AWESOME!!!
I hope Legion will not become some F2P crap like it was hinted in the survey! Tie it to EVE sub. +5 bucks or something. It's F2P. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
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Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
463
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Posted - 2014.05.04 07:52:00 -
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Magnus Cortex wrote:One account, all access please (dont care what it costs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKHSAE1gIs Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1377
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Posted - 2014.05.04 08:19:00 -
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SOE is making all access plan so i think this could be it with EVE also. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
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