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Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:04:00 -
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Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams. |

Cyoban
Hedion University Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:06:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams.
Can I have your stuff?
EDIT: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=341654 |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
6
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:07:00 -
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Cyoban wrote:Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams. Can I have your stuff? EDIT: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=341654 yeah when you get original
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Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
370
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:08:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams.
In all fairness though unlike Dust or WoD...walking in stations wasnt a game :P just a feature |

Doireen Kaundur
Minmatar Republic
890
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:09:00 -
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Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
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Cyoban
Hedion University Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:12:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote: Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
This. |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
6
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:15:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote: Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
EVE online is stagnating and CCP knows this. They've known this for sometime. Thus why they came up with the Idea to DUST 514. This will have long standing repercussions on CCP and anything they do in the future. That should concern you if you are all concerned about the companies future and where EVE fits into that. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3225
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:16:00 -
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Cyoban wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote: Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel. This. I am spaceship.
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Hurtado Soneka
Rogue of Blade
210
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:18:00 -
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Legion will need literally 50x the content of Dust at beta/release (lol CCP and their silly releases ) just to not get passed of as a joke.
PC, the home of FPS, a massive **** has been taken already on CCP credibility with how they handled their Dust presentation at fanfest, it is nothing like the coup de grace waiting for them if they dont up their game on a massive scale if they release Legion like they did Dust.
My heart goes out to consoleers, they got the all 4 inches of the shaft, I can just only hope CCP can get their **** together with legion because as you say, PC is a whole new market in the realm of FPS and people wont stick around longer than 5 seconds due to any free to play gimmick. |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:18:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Cyoban wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote: Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel. This. I am spaceship.
Thanks for the bump |
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Cyoban
Hedion University Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:30:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote: Dont hold back. Tell us how you really feel. EVE online is stagnating and CCP knows this. They've known this for sometime. Thus why they came up with the Idea to DUST 514. This will have long standing repercussions on CCP and anything they do in the future. That should concern you if you are all concerned about the companies future and where EVE fits into that.
Well, it was called DUST because it would become vaporware and it was given the number 514 because it was set to end on May, 2014.
This of course was all approved by the Reptilian high-command. |

Thead Enco
47th Ronin
167
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:35:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams.
Funny i thought Dust was a joke, The ERA of the PC is alive an well
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |

Katsumoto Moliko
Salient Logistics Inc.
22
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:37:00 -
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Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
DUST 514 is planned to continue in active development. This was stated by the keynote. Transfers will be offered to players who want to migrate to Legion.
Quote:Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
This was the first time CCP ever undertook making a first person shooter, and on something other than the PC to boot. When it comes down to it, a game making company - while completely responsible for its actions - is nothing more than a bunch of humans. Imperfect, mistake prone humans. I for one am happy they had the guts to try something completely different and outside of their expertise.
And now they are developing a First Person Shooter on familiar territory (personal computers) with the added benefit of having gained valuable, hard lessons from mistakes made.
Quote: I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
The fact that CCP have been completely open and willing to fix mistakes is, when compared to most other studios responsible for MMO development, almost unheard of.
In fact, the entire philosophy of development was changed to a focus on shorter release times for fixing issues that appeared, and releasing content in more easily managed chunks than massive content updates that remain buggy for months afterward. Due to popular opinion.
Quote:Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I, too, judge completely unreleased (and not even half developed) projects before we even see gameplay videos.
Not one person knows how significantly Legion will differ from Dust 514, except for maybe CCP themselves. And as a repeat of my last point, it will be developed on a more familiar platform with experience gained in the development of DUST.
In fact, I have only gained respect from their willingness to try completely new, risky projects - as opposed to the unwillingness of most companies to advance beyond comfortable formulas.
Quote:I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams.
1) Walking in stations was put on development hold in favor of additional focus being placed on fixes and quality of life improvements.
2) DUST is still going to be a thing.
3) World of Darkness is probably the only thing that would even come close to anyone's definition of failure. In my opinion, canceling a project that is having severe development problems is a far, far wiser move than releasing what could have potentially been an abomination of a game.
I am really growing weary of the consistent use of double standards.
Complaints are made that CCP is starting to slack off in development, and what do they do?
They reveal development of what will be player built stargates, a desperately needed sov revamp, not to mention tons of other new content. Basically what will be the most content expansive releases in EVE Online's history. For you to dismiss them as drug abusers is an utterly foolish, immature, and ignorant remark.
I have seen people asking for massive additions of content, and now CCP is planning to deliver just that. I fail to see why - even after countless genuine attempts to get in the good spirits of the playerbase - they are still coming under so much criticism.
I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends. |

Geezelbub
Barely Illegal
12
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:42:00 -
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Hundreds of us told them to make it for PC when first announced.
As usual, CCP knew better than their fan base, whom they continue to nerf/alienate out the door. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9503
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:47:00 -
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Katsumoto Moliko wrote:DUST 514 is planned to continue in active development. DUST 514's "active development" prior to Legion was paltry at best. There will be no further development of DUST after Legion is released. You can pretty much count on that. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5626
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:48:00 -
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Or to put it another way, now that they have developed a game for console they can judge that platforms capabilities from a position of experience... and they have found the PS3 and PS4 lacking to support the game they want to develop.
So being in that position they agree to continue to polish the game they created, but are switching development of a far more in depth version over to a platform that CAN support it... the PC.
If that doesn't make sense or sound fair to you, fair enough, but it does sound pretty logical and fair to me. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5626
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:50:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Katsumoto Moliko wrote:DUST 514 is planned to continue in active development. DUST 514's "active development" prior to Legion was paltry at best. There will be no further development of DUST after Legion is released. You can pretty much count on that. Yeah, there isn't likely to be a lot of new content... much like most of the games out there for console you get what you get... but they did say that bug fixes and improvements would continue.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:52:00 -
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Katsumoto Moliko wrote:Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;
I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends.
Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format.
Legion will fail , the math is already there. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5626
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:53:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Katsumoto Moliko wrote:Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;
I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends. Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format. Legion will fail , the math is already there. And here is where you begin to show your true colors.    To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:55:00 -
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Geezelbub wrote:Hundreds of us told them to make it for PC when first announced.
As usual, CCP knew better than their fan base, whom they continue to nerf/alienate out the door.
This ^ and hes right .It's not a good trend.The companies current tangent is going backwards imo. |
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Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 02:58:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Or to put it another way, now that they have developed a game for console they can judge that platforms capabilities from a position of experience... and they have found the PS3 and PS4 lacking to support the game they want to develop.
So being in that position they agree to continue to polish the game they created, but are switching development of a far more in depth version over to a platform that CAN support it... the PC.
If that doesn't make sense or sound fair to you, fair enough, but it does sound pretty logical and fair to me. http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs that platform cant support DUSt 514 ? hmm
LoL some haze and a tree constitutes nothing ..... |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:12:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Katsumoto Moliko wrote:Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;
I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends. Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format. Legion will fail , the math is already there. And here is where you begin to show your true colors.    Actually, they have delivered a product, just not the product they wanted to deliver. There is nothing holding them back from developing it on PC. http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs
You're dismissed...... |

Sher Rayet
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:33:00 -
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Quote:Bullocks. Serious business. This looks amazing, flexibility and the ability to link the EVE universe from the PS4. Ban me whenever you like--Because again, we've worked long enough than we realized over time and HONESTLY, HONESTLY, sorry.
I can imagine how frustrated it was to stand and hear this ass. What is his name? CCP what?
"It's just inevitable and drama s going to happen. I suspect Dust isn't going anywhere for a long time. blahblah blah blah"
Who is this capital D!CK??? what is his dev name. Fire him, terrible, terrible spiteful dev. I don't like this guy what so ever, the way he blew off questions in audience like that to "lol" . That guy can **** off. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5627
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:40:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Katsumoto Moliko wrote:Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;
I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends. Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format. Legion will fail , the math is already there. And here is where you begin to show your true colors.    Actually, they have delivered a product, just not the product they wanted to deliver. There is nothing holding them back from developing it on PC. http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_SpecsYou're dismissed...... I see the differences between developing for a PC as opposed to console development are lost on you... most of them are not necessarily hardware related.
Of course, they haven't ruled out a port to the PS4 eventually... so a version for the console market could still be a possibility, but it's not their focus.
You can crawl back under your bridge now. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
7
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:44:00 -
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Sher Rayet wrote:edit, reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42IQuote:Bullocks. Serious business. This looks amazing, flexibility and the ability to link the EVE universe from the PS4. Ban me whenever you like--Because again, we've worked long enough than we realized over time and HONESTLY, HONESTLY, sorry. I can imagine how frustrated it was to stand and hear this ass. What is his name? CCP what? "It's just inevitable and drama s going to happen. I suspect Dust isn't going anywhere for a long time. blahblah blah blah"Who is this capital D!CK??? what is his dev name. Fire him, terrible, terrible spiteful dev. I don't like this guy what so ever, the way he blew off questions in audience like that to "lol" . That guy can **** off.
Thats what Im saying .What is CCP saying about there corporate "culture" . You dont have concern's about this attitude toward that consumer when us EVE players are are just another consumer as well? |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
9
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Posted - 2014.05.04 03:49:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Katsumoto Moliko wrote:Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;
I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends. Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format. Legion will fail , the math is already there. And here is where you begin to show your true colors.    Actually, they have delivered a product, just not the product they wanted to deliver. There is nothing holding them back from developing it on PC. http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_SpecsYou're dismissed...... I see the differences between developing for a PC as opposed to console development are lost on you... most of them are not necessarily hardware related. Of course, they haven't ruled out a port to the PS4 eventually... so a version for the console market could still be a possibility, but it's not their focus. You can crawl back under your bridge now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evumQppKogo#t=24 http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/06/interview-dust-514-on-ps3-will-help-hurt-eve-online-players-in-new-ways/ please stfu whispers/your pom poms are in the closet over there next to your lipstick and hi heels |

Tysun Kane
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2014.05.04 04:04:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.
Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.
I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.
Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.
IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.
I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails. Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams.
CCP last keynote stated they are not abandoning 514, they had another 514 keynote talking about progression plans for dust 514, and if you want to play legion you can port your toon, sp, isk,and progression to legion.
If this isn't enough to make you happy please go back to WOW and play with pandas. CCP made some of the most jaw dropping announcements at fanfest that even had twitch chat getting along and playing nice with each other in all the excitement.
It's very clear CCP intent is to focus on EVE and the EVE universe for the first time in years or at least since I can remember, and you still have whine on the forums? Sony made the PS4 for the future of there games. CCP devs said in the interview with mimic that it doesn't make sense to start on a new consoles because they can make a better and more lasting product bringing it to PC, and make all there new games all apart of the one universe we all know and love. |

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I do understand your frustration, but you're letting reason fly out the window.
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it.
"Art is never finished, only abandoned." - da Vinci
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it.
Equivocal Sophistry
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: Those 2.5k peak player base ...
All of 2,500 eh? And just how much revenue do 2,500 players bring in anyway? Enough to justify the expense?
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base.
No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote: In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed.
This is called getting a clue, something CCP appears to have gotten, took them long enough. CCP has a core competency, best to build on what you know.
There is a very good reason why James Brown was the god father of soul, and it had nothing to do with his ability to play basketball.
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Sher Rayet wrote:edit, reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42IQuote:Bullocks. Serious business. This looks amazing, flexibility and the ability to link the EVE universe from the PS4. Ban me whenever you like--Because again, we've worked long enough than we realized over time and HONESTLY, HONESTLY, sorry. I can imagine how frustrated it was to stand and hear this ass. What is his name? CCP what? "It's just inevitable and drama s going to happen. I suspect Dust isn't going anywhere for a long time. blahblah blah blah"Who is this capital D!CK??? what is his dev name. Fire him, terrible, terrible spiteful dev. I don't like this guy what so ever, the way he blew off questions in audience like that to "lol" . That guy can **** off. Thats what Im saying .What is CCP saying about there corporate "culture" . You dont have concern's about this attitude toward that consumer when us EVE players are are just another consumer as well? You two do realize the narrator in that video you linked is a DUST player, not a CCP rep right? To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Armaeus Hellbrecht
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Adunh Slavy wrote:
No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.
thanks for your uninformed dribble. Anyone who plays dust 514 pays for boosters equivalent to subs on EVE.
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