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CC Babcock
The Ancient's Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:46:00 -
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I have read alot of forum posts in the last hour and didnt see anything mentioned about manufacturing the new T3s... on Sisi ( last time i checked ) they were produced using only base minerals. Shouldnt be manufactured out of sleepers loot like the T3 cruisers ? i.e. all T2 ships need T2 products, i havent seen one to be built out of base minerals only. |

Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:47:00 -
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CC Babcock wrote:I have read alot of forum posts in the last hour and didnt see anything mentioned about manufacturing the new T3s... on Sisi ( last time i checked ) they were produced using only base minerals. Shouldnt be manufactured out of sleepers loot like the T3 cruisers ? i.e. all T2 ships need T2 products, i havent seen one to be built out of base minerals only.
tier 3, not T3 |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:47:00 -
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Goonswarm is looking for pilots of your caliber. I'm sending you a mail in-game right now. Notify: You are eaten by the Whumpus
http://goo.gl/uX5vk |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
387
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:47:00 -
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CC Babcock wrote:I have read alot of forum posts in the last hour and didnt see anything mentioned about manufacturing the new T3s... on Sisi ( last time i checked ) they were produced using only base minerals. Shouldnt be manufactured out of sleepers loot like the T3 cruisers ? i.e. all T2 ships need T2 products, i havent seen one to be built out of base minerals only.
tier 3. not tech 3. they are all tech 1. |

Aamrr
HnL Enterprise
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:47:00 -
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Tier-3, not Tech-3. They will be Tech-1 ships produced with minerals only, receiving most of their value back from insurance.
That is all. |

InVictus Kell
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:52:00 -
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Tier-3, not Tech-3. i love being redundant. :) |

Jace Errata
Cobalt Valkyrie Industries The Ambivalent
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:54:00 -
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I liked every post in this thread correcting the Tier 3/Tech 3 EPICFAIL. Because y'know, after this long you'd think everyone would know about it by now. Let's...just assume there's some kind of signature here, 'k? ... ... OH WAIT. Jace Errata on Twitter |

CC Babcock
The Ancient's Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:55:00 -
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Aamrr wrote:Tier-3, not Tech-3. They will be Tech-1 ships produced with minerals only, receiving most of their value back from insurance.
That is all.
ok i am confused. What are the tier 2 ships then ?
according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online :
All ships in the game are also classed according to Tech level, from Tech I to Tech III. Tech I (or T1) ships are general purpose, easily manufactured models that perform simple, straightforward functions in an obvious way. Tech II (T2) ships are based on T1 designs that have been modified to perform specific roles using specialized technology. T2 ships are harder to manufacture and are only produced by certain corporations, and are priced well above the T1 variants.
The Apocrypha patch introduced into Eve Online a new type of ship: the Tech III (T3) strategic cruiser. |

Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.11.15 22:56:00 -
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Did anyone already mention tier 3 vs tech 3?  |

Trillian Stargazer
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:04:00 -
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CC Babcock wrote:Aamrr wrote:Tier-3, not Tech-3. They will be Tech-1 ships produced with minerals only, receiving most of their value back from insurance.
That is all. ok i am confused. What are the tier 2 ships then ? according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online : All ships in the game are also classed according to Tech level, from Tech I to Tech III. Tech I (or T1) ships are general purpose, easily manufactured models that perform simple, straightforward functions in an obvious way. Tech II (T2) ships are based on T1 designs that have been modified to perform specific roles using specialized technology. T2 ships are harder to manufacture and are only produced by certain corporations, and are priced well above the T1 variants. The Apocrypha patch introduced into Eve Online a new type of ship: the Tech III (T3) strategic cruiser.
you should have posted this a couple of weeks ago, or you could check the SEARCH feature.
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Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:07:00 -
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CC Babcock wrote:Aamrr wrote:Tier-3, not Tech-3. They will be Tech-1 ships produced with minerals only, receiving most of their value back from insurance.
That is all. ok i am confused. What are the tier 2 ships then ? according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online : All ships in the game are also classed according to Tech level, from Tech I to Tech III. Tech I (or T1) ships are general purpose, easily manufactured models that perform simple, straightforward functions in an obvious way. Tech II (T2) ships are based on T1 designs that have been modified to perform specific roles using specialized technology. T2 ships are harder to manufacture and are only produced by certain corporations, and are priced well above the T1 variants. The Apocrypha patch introduced into Eve Online a new type of ship: the Tech III (T3) strategic cruiser.
The cyclone is a tier 1 battlecruiser. You'll need the skill Battlecruiser at least at level 1. The hurricane is a tier 2 battlecruiser. You'll need the skill Battlecruiser at least at level 2.
See ?
Altough i believe the tornado needs battlecruiser at V, it's the third tier.
Cyclone, then hurricane, then Tornado.
If you see it as "generations" it makes more sense, i guess. |

CC Babcock
The Ancient's Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:09:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote: The cyclone is a tier 1 battlecruiser. You'll need the skill Battlecruiser at least at level 1. The hurricane is a tier 2 battlecruiser. You'll need the skill Battlecruiser at least at level 2. See ?
I see. Thank you for a pertinent answer. |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
149
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:10:00 -
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Btw ... awesome name you have ! *lol* |

Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:11:00 -
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since no one has stated this......
tier 3 not tech 3
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:14:00 -
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I wanna be the first to say, tier 3 =/= tech 3.
Hooray for people with no reading comprehension misunderstanding something, then trying to intelligently discuss something they haven't bothered to even think about for 2 seconds! |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:17:00 -
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CC Babcock wrote:Aamrr wrote:Tier-3, not Tech-3. They will be Tech-1 ships produced with minerals only, receiving most of their value back from insurance.
That is all. ok i am confused. What are the tier 2 ships then ? according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online : All ships in the game are also classed according to Tech level, from Tech I to Tech III. Tech I (or T1) ships are general purpose, easily manufactured models that perform simple, straightforward functions in an obvious way. Tech II (T2) ships are based on T1 designs that have been modified to perform specific roles using specialized technology. T2 ships are harder to manufacture and are only produced by certain corporations, and are priced well above the T1 variants. The Apocrypha patch introduced into Eve Online a new type of ship: the Tech III (T3) strategic cruiser.
Right, so an omen is a tech 1 cruiser, a zealot is a tech 2 cruiser, and a legion is a tech 3 cruiser.
Follow me so far?
An Armageddon is a tier 1 battleship, an Apocalypse is a tier 2 battleship, and an Abaddon is a tier 3 Battleship.
The common difference in print has been Tiers are addressed with a lower case 't', and Techs are addressed with an upper case 'T'.
The new battlecruisers are not Tech 3, they are Tier 3, so tech one ships, but 3rd tier tech one ships, meaning they'll require just minerals, standard minerals to construct. Looking at the BPO's on SiSi currently I'd expect them to sell for around 50-60 million each. Cheaper than the cheapest Battleship, slightly above the tier 2 (Myrmadon, Drake, Harbinger, Hurricane) Battlecruisers.
Got all that? |

Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.15 23:56:00 -
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OP, I see that you have said a fail in your post.
Since many people have said it before, but it still has not sunken in, Ill tell you.
Its Tier 3, *not* Tech 3.
And one more time, in case it has leaked out of your brain in the seconds after reading it:
Its Tier 3, *not* Tech 3. |

Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
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Posted - 2011.11.16 05:32:00 -
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What's the difference between Tier 3 and Tech 3? I'm confused. If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt. |

Nyssa Litari
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.16 06:02:00 -
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Because of Falcon |

Ned Black
Driders
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Posted - 2011.11.16 06:56:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:What's the difference between Tier 3 and Tech 3? I'm confused.
Tier 3: "Better" version than their Tier 1 and 2 counterparts. Usually have more weapon slots than the version below. Can be created by regular minerals
Tech 3: Modular ships based on subsystems that can be adapted to fit diffrent situations... They can have diffrent loadouts depending on which subsystems are fitted. As with just about any ship they come in a FOTM fassion just about everyone flies them with specific fits. There may be a number of diffrent ones, but each of them is usually very similar every time you face them.
Personally I really would like to get rid of killmails that display the mods. I dont want to share my F.U.B.A.R. fits with the rest of EvE :p |

Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:30:00 -
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Couldn't all this confusion be sorted out by calling them T5? Since they require Battlecruisers 5....
/hides
DAMNIT CANT HIDE IF YOU"RE THE PAGE 2 SNIPAH |

Zindela
Aegeonix Systems
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:32:00 -
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The Redundancy Department of Redundancy would like to inform you that T3 = tech 3, and the new battlecruisers are Tier 3, which means they have standard resists, and only one set of bonuses modified by the Battle cruiser skill, not by any advanced command skills. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:50:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Couldn't all this confusion be sorted out by calling them T5? Since they require Battlecruisers 5.... Do they now? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Lithalnas
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.16 07:56:00 -
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we should call them cattlebruisers to denote their teir 3 status. How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akira T) http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:13:00 -
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Bah, none of this fixes my rails, I am dissapointed. No really, I am. Oh, wrong thread.....

I think the Op got some reasonable answers to her question, about 3 in among a sea of insults and trolls. These must be the General Forums for Eve Online.
Yep, they are.
Forever the helpful bunch.
@Op - It's been done to death and possibly beyond, but unfortunately the two words describing the technology levels of ships do lead to some confusion initially. Tier as opposed to Tech. Heh, who can blame you? Trust me, those lambasting you here went through the same confusion when they started off, but now that they know - everyone else is stupid and lazy.
Ignore the static.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Sin Meng
Creative Assembly
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:25:00 -
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9/10, very well done. Elements of the past and the future combining to make something not quite as good as either. |

Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:27:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:Goonswarm is looking for pilots of your caliber. I'm sending you a mail in-game right now.
Sir/Ma'am, on behalf of the community, I'd like to thank and praise you for stepping in to offer a valuable service to us all, and not just to the op. |

Landrae
Blood Angel Asylum
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:29:00 -
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Just thought id mention that its tier 3 not tech 3
P.S. The Game. Apple was going to make a smaller version of the iPod touch for kids, until they realized that " iTouch Kids " wouldn't be an appropriate name. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.11.16 08:53:00 -
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Tier3 not Tech3  |

Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
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Posted - 2011.11.16 09:40:00 -
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*LOL*
I believe we all got it wrong, it's actually a beer-free battlecruiser... |
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