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Keith Planck
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:34:00 -
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Discuss aka Pony Lord Planck |

Sith1s Spectre
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Posted - 2014.05.05 04:39:00 -
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Oh Keith...
I hated the idea then, i hate the idea now.
However credit where credit is due, the stupid thing worked Nothing to see here.... Move along
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Jack Miton
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:52:00 -
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Does it work? sure. Is it useful? hell no. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
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Posted - 2014.05.05 05:54:00 -
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Bonus round.
If you get dropped on midsite, use a mobile depot and refit all ECM!!!!
Siege mode un-counter jammable super falcon! |

Borsek
A.A.A Trapped.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 06:33:00 -
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I heard the scanning phoenix was a good investment, too. Are the rumors correct? |

Angsty Teenager
Broski North Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 06:43:00 -
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You're the worst PVE theorycrafter I have ever seen. |

Nox52
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:26:00 -
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If this doesn't show how utterly crap the hull is as a dread I don't know what does. |

Keith Planck
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:46:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:You're the worst PVE theorycrafter I have ever seen.
Thanks though it wasn't entirely my idea, Kate came up with the concept and the Phoenix fit, I just helped turn it into a reality. If you were looking to try it out and don't have a phoenix pilot, you can do the same thing with the moros or rev. aka Pony Lord Planck |

Andrew Jester
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Posted - 2014.05.05 07:48:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:Oh Keith...
I hated the idea then, i hate the idea now.
However credit where credit is due, the stupid thing worked
This implies that we've tried it... Umm...have we? |

Sith1s Spectre
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:11:00 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:Oh Keith...
I hated the idea then, i hate the idea now.
However credit where credit is due, the stupid thing worked This implies that we've tried it... Umm...have we? Once or twice when we used to live in the pulsar much to my annoyance Nothing to see here.... Move along
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Keith Planck
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:13:00 -
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Sith1s Spectre wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:Sith1s Spectre wrote:Oh Keith...
I hated the idea then, i hate the idea now.
However credit where credit is due, the stupid thing worked This implies that we've tried it... Umm...have we? Once or twice when we used to live in the pulsar much to my annoyance
A lot of times actually :P aka Pony Lord Planck |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:38:00 -
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Nox52 wrote:If this doesn't show how utterly crap the hull is as a dread I don't know what does. Surely you're joking? The Phoenix hull is the most beautiful thing ever!
It's the only ship that looks like a powerhouse (even if it isn't).
The Nag is alright looking but far too vertical. The Rev is a scrawny man attending a heavyweight boxing match. And the Moros, well, the Moros is a beached whale with cellulite... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Andrew Jester
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:44:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote: The Nag is alright looking but far too vertical.
RIP in peace your soul
inb4 V E R T I C A L
sperg |

Freddie Merrcury
Daktaklakpak. Red Coat Conspiracy
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Posted - 2014.05.05 08:56:00 -
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A bit cap heavy but it works.
Just don't try to fit energy transfers to it. I been kicked out of better homes than this. |

Paikis
Vapour Holdings
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:20:00 -
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This is entirely unnecessary. 1 Archons, 1 Revelation, 2+ of any other Dread, 1 Loki. Throw everything into the site straight up, blow it up, warp in your second carrier when there are 8 Sleepless Guardians left and get out of there in 1 siege cycle.
Anything else is just complicating the matter.
First Dread absolutely must be a Revelation, first Carrier absolutely must be an Archon, boosts absolutely must be had. |

Nox52
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:17:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Nox52 wrote:If this doesn't show how utterly crap the hull is as a dread I don't know what does. Surely you're joking? The Phoenix hull is the most beautiful thing ever! It's the only ship that looks like a powerhouse (even if it isn't). The Nag is alright looking but far too vertical. The Rev is a scrawny man attending a heavyweight boxing match. And the Moros, well, the Moros is a beached whale with cellulite...
I'm just saying that the current viable fits for it are agility modded scanning phoenix or armour logi phoenix.
Nothing about the sexy look of the ship. |

Van Steiza
Whale Girth Grand Sky Wizards
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:26:00 -
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So erm guys the Phoenix is getting a buff.. it will no longer be crap ;) ;) ;) ;).
Catch up! |

Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:28:00 -
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Before it lost the 2 missile hardpoints I was toying with the idea of using an uber resist tanked loki and a nag fitted for max projectile damage and remote rep in the other 2 highs but they changed it before I had a chance to play :S
Used to use a rorqual in the pulsar so as to dump the dreads in first - worked pretty well atleast in a pulsar. Its no slower aslong as people are on the ball than quad escalating with a lot less pressure on the primaried dread. |

Andrew Jester
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:34:00 -
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Van Steiza wrote:So erm guys the Phoenix is getting a buff.. it will no longer be crap ;) ;) ;) ;).
Catch up!
It'll be even more like a Chimmy now :) |

Bane Nucleus
Assault and Battery
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:51:00 -
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The main lesson from this thread:
Just because you can doesn't mean you should No trolling please |
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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:38:00 -
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Hatshepsut IV wrote:Bonus round.
If you get dropped on midsite, use a mobile depot and refit all ECM!!!!
Siege mode un-counter jammable super falcon!
I laughed. Doesn't seem incredibly useful, but would be annoying. |

Calmatt
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:30:00 -
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Thank you Keith, for validating my old C5-C1 Black Hole corp back in 2010. This is exactly what we would do for our RR tengu fleets on home ops. No one ever believed me, but now I think they might. |

Angsty Teenager
Broski North Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.05.05 15:12:00 -
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Paikis wrote:This is entirely unnecessary. 1 Archons, 1 Revelation, 2+ of any other Dread, 1 Loki. Throw everything into the site straight up, blow it up, warp in your second carrier when there are 8 Sleepless Guardians left and get out of there in 1 siege cycle.
Anything else is just complicating the matter.
First Dread absolutely must be a Revelation, first Carrier absolutely must be an Archon, boosts absolutely must be had.
wow somebody actually knows how to run sites on these forums. I dunno about this ~rev~ stuff but ok. |

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:12:00 -
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Seraph Essael wrote: The Nag is alright looking but far too vertical.
Do you have issues with big things that are "vertical"? http://imgur.com/yEQqAeb |

Rall Mekin
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:13:00 -
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delete http://imgur.com/yEQqAeb |

Keith Planck
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Posted - 2014.05.05 16:36:00 -
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Paikis wrote:This is entirely unnecessary. 1 Archons, 1 Revelation, 2+ of any other Dread, 1 Loki. Throw everything into the site straight up, blow it up, warp in your second carrier when there are 8 Sleepless Guardians left and get out of there in 1 siege cycle.
Anything else is just complicating the matter.
First Dread absolutely must be a Revelation, first Carrier absolutely must be an Archon, boosts absolutely must be had.
Please post a video of you doing a site with 3 dreads in one cycle and I will believe you. aka Pony Lord Planck |

Trinkets friend
Goat Sects
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:51:00 -
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Theoretically if you are going to go full riitard on sperging dreads into sites, why bring a loki at all?
[Phoenix, Wolf Raywhut?]
Damage Control II Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Target Painter II Target Painter II Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Warp Disruptor II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Siege Module II 'Limos' Citadel Cruise Launcher I, Guristas Scourge Citadel Cruise Missile 'Limos' Citadel Cruise Launcher I, Guristas Scourge Citadel Cruise Missile 'Limos' Citadel Cruise Launcher I, Guristas Scourge Citadel Cruise Missile
Capital Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Capital Warhead Flare Catalyst II Capital Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Dunno what that dissy's doing there >.> Join the cult of Goat Sects @_@ http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Rall Mekin
End-of-Line Sky Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.05.05 21:00:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Theoretically if you are going to go full riitard on sperging dreads into sites, why bring a loki at all?
[Phoenix, Wolf Raywhut?]
Damage Control II Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Target Painter II Target Painter II Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Dark Blood Stasis Webifier Warp Disruptor II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Siege Module II 'Limos' Citadel Cruise Launcher I, Guristas Scourge Citadel Cruise Missile 'Limos' Citadel Cruise Launcher I, Guristas Scourge Citadel Cruise Missile 'Limos' Citadel Cruise Launcher I, Guristas Scourge Citadel Cruise Missile
Capital Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I Capital Warhead Flare Catalyst II Capital Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Dunno what that dissy's doing there >.>
Heresy
http://imgur.com/yEQqAeb |

Paikis
Vapour Holdings
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:28:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:Theoretically if you are going to go full riitard on sperging dreads into sites, why bring a loki at all?
[Phoenix, Wolf Raywhut?] snip
Webs on that are pointless. Even with perfect boosts you don't even get 20kms. You will never web a sleeper with them. There is a reason Lokis/Rapiers/Huggins get used, and it's the web range bonus.
Keith Planck wrote:Please post a video of you doing a site with 3 dreads in one cycle and I will believe you.
As I explained in your reddit post on this matter, I no longer have access to the characters I used to do this. I haven't ran a site since... November?-ish? I quite simply can't make the video you're asking for. I also sold all my caps, except for a single Thanatos and a Revelation.
However, since I'm not the only one in that thread telling you this can be done, and since there are some things you apparently don't know about sleepers and fits to do it, will you allow that perhaps I might be right?
Also, you have access (I assume) to the characters and ships required to do this. Jack Miton is in your corp, I assume he knows a thing or two about Sleepers, since he wrote the only real guide on doing it.
Don't take my word for it, go test it. |

Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2014.05.06 00:51:00 -
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Wait, you guys still use two siege cycles?
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