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Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:19:00 - [1] Please could you explain... * How, as an Amarrian RPer who supports his Emperor, I'm supposed to do my stuff without an Emperor? * How pro-Sarum RPers are meant to do the bidding of their house when it doesn't have a leader? * How pro-Thukker RPers are meant to support their tribe when it's relationship with the Republic still hasn't been explained many months after standings were changed? * How having a democratic state dither over the choice of it's President for two years is consistent with Eve having a believable back-story? I believe that the RP community is a great asset to this game that we all love, and provides colour and depth to everyone's experience whether they sit at a gate wondering why anyone would be so crazy to have a large fleet composed of only Amarrian ships, or if they just read about the Ushra'Khan's exploits in the news. But many of us are getting a little exasperated by the lack of progress on some of Eve's major storylines. RPers from at least five factions are ready to follow your lead. Give us dynamic storylines, and we will pay you back ten-fold. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Gnauton	Posted - 2006.05.24 11:53:00 - [2] They're on the way.
s4mp3r0r	Posted - 2006.05.24 12:00:00 - [3] explain please. Teasing right now is inapropriate. Random quotes about CCP from their customers : New Features > Working Features They never finish any thing They have a new toy (China) and have left the old toy (us) in the toybox to collect dus
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.05.24 12:30:00 - [4] Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. We were told the same thing in January Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Omber Zombie	Posted - 2006.05.24 15:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Rodj Blake * How having a democratic state dither over the choice of it's President for two years is consistent with Eve having a believable back-story? I did offer my services Rodj, I feel for ya man, but if you ever get sick enough and give up the RP - yell,i'll happily take you in ----------------------
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.24 19:31:00 - [6] I think I heard something similar before. Might have happened about 4 weeks after the Thukker tribe standing changes took place. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=277104 Originally by: Nebulai Posted - 2006.01.18 18:20:00 - [9] I'll see if i can find out for you, I've only just recently returned from a break myself We assume that Nebulai got lost on the road to knowledge. He haven't heard of Nebulai since then. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Cocyte	Posted - 2006.05.25 03:01:00 - [7] Edited by: Cocyte on 25/05/2006 03:02:37 Those standing changes are quite logical actually. All is part of "the plan" about factional warfare. Pirate faction were also modified according to "the plan" : blood raiders, sansha and guristas are no longer disliked by gallente and minmatar. same as serpentis and angels vs amarr and caldari. the ennemy of my ennemy... Can someone explain me why the independant gurista pirates suddenly love the freakish borg-like sanshas ? For the gallente election on hold for two years, don't worry, it is also part of "the plan". I guess that the new president will be a warmongering nutcase only interested by destroying the caldaris. Oooooh... What a surprise! Look at the news item about Mental Black... sorry, Mentas Blaque. Got a feeling that the future amarr emperor will have to assure his position with a strong initiative. A second reclaiming for example. Geez... I hope I'm wrong... However, I will vote for Omber Zombie! Ozzie for prez! :) All your booze are belong to me.
Ultim8Evil	Posted - 2006.05.25 06:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. SoonÖ
Tachy	Posted - 2006.05.25 06:31:00 - [9] Originally by: Cocyte Edited by: Cocyte on 25/05/2006 03:02:37 Those standing changes are quite logical actually. All is part of "the plan" about factional warfare. Pirate faction were also modified according to "the plan" : blood raiders, sansha and guristas are no longer disliked by gallente and minmatar. same as serpentis and angels vs amarr and caldari. the ennemy of my ennemy... Can someone explain me why the independant gurista pirates suddenly love the freakish borg-like sanshas ? For the gallente election on hold for two years, don't worry, it is also part of "the plan". I guess that the new president will be a warmongering nutcase only interested by destroying the caldaris. Oooooh... What a surprise! Look at the news item about Mental Black... sorry, Mentas Blaque. Got a feeling that the future amarr emperor will have to assure his position with a strong initiative. A second reclaiming for example. Geez... I hope I'm wrong... However, I will vote for Omber Zombie! Ozzie for prez! :) Thukker used to fight the Angel Cartel because Angels are Slavers. They supported the Republic. Now they are close to a war with the republic and big buddies of their former enemies. We want to know why. (Imagine you do a lot of missions for your preferred R&D corp only to find out you can't visit his station because doing the missions put you on the 'kill on sight' list. But that's only one part of the problems.) The head of the Minmatar Republic hasn't been heard in three years. Many Matari are willing to pod her - repeatedly. At the moment the plan on the storyline is ...Nebulai? Nebulai? Did you find anything? nebulAI? Where are you? Do you need help? NEBULAII! Gnauton, please prepare the search team. Arm them, and bring in the truffel hound team. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2006.05.26 11:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA I'm sorry but this grumpy hardliner Amarrian hasn't read anything so amusing in a hundred years. Oh man I just got the giggles... hahahahahahahahaha

Vendrin	Posted - 2006.05.27 00:33:00 - [11] Also what about the Achura? What is this disaster on their homeplanet that sent so many of them to the skies? Why have the last 4 chrons been player written and while given interesting tidbits haven't really given us info relevant to events? _____________________________________ Need help in Caldari Space? Join channel CCDF to give or recieve it.
Ly'sol	Posted - 2006.05.27 00:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. gnauton, no offense but...thats like me saying the next part to my story is in the works when i respond to people asking for an update to it in EVE libary. So your being like Ly'sol dont be like Ly'sol or else god will start to kill kittens should he find out your trying to be like me.
Yasujiro Kaibara	Posted - 2006.05.27 01:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Vendrin Also what about the Achura? What is this disaster on their homeplanet that sent so many of them to the skies? Why have the last 4 chrons been player written and while given interesting tidbits haven't really given us info relevant to events? Agreed. Where the hell is the Achura background, yo? While player-made chrons (and the writers are going to strangle me for this) I'd definitely say they're a lower priority. You need to lay some concrete background for anyone to build upon it. I'm kind of stuck here, trying to think of a good character backstory, but everyone's yammering about some incident on the Achura homeplanet. And the Achura description is so incredibly vague about it, that people are still questioning its meaning. Allow me to quote: Quote: Achur pilots have been few and far between in the past, but the recent sacrilege of their home world prompted them to take to the skies in greater numbers. I mean, this tidbit could either be referring to Saisio III OR (old) Caldari Prime. You see, Caldari Prime was also 'sacrificed' in order to form the State. Saisio III could be the Achuran equivalent of New Caldari Prime for all we know. So. Can we please get some clarification on this? ---
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.05.27 01:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. I'm sorry Gnauton, I really respect what you do, but I don't buy that. I remember when an Achura chronicle, by that very name, showed up, but the text was a placeholder, copied and pasted from "Past the Future Curbs". I figured it would be filled in with the new text momentarily, but it wasn't. It just sat there for a day or two, and then disappeared, never to be seen again. What the hell HAPPENED? Did you plan to publish it, and then change your mind to keep some space between it and the player chronicles so everything gets some face time? Or did you decide that you didn't like the chron, and it should be rewritten, but you never got around to it? Or did you just put it up there with no text, assuming you could write the text in an evening, but never came up with any ideas? -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.05.27 01:50:00 - [15] Hell, I'm not an Amarrian, and even I'm really upset over the lack of an Emperor...I can ALMOST (not quite, but almost) buy into the idea of a futuristic "democracy" that's so far buried in beaurocracy that an election can linger for a few years. But there's absolutely no excuse for why the Amarr succession hasn't been performed, and produced a new Emperor. None has even been SUGGESTED, much less a credible one asserted. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Lallara Zhuul	Posted - 2006.05.27 10:54:00 - [16] /me shrugs. All new background stuff probably be for the people who subscribe to the magazine. Hell, that way there is money in them. **** it, im off to kill some Terrorists. 'Death is the only Release from duty..'
Crystal Kali	Posted - 2006.05.27 11:26:00 - [17] Some news articles on Emperor candidates jostling at least..? And what has Foiritan got to say about anything, seeing as all we hear about these days re: Federation Election is from Mentas Blaque? And what happened to the Achura on Saiso III? What is life like at home for the Jin-Mei? Where did the Vherokior go for all those years and why does the Vherokior Tribe corp in the game have nothing whatsoever to do with them? At this rate I'll post about the Jin-Mei in the library and spam the official fictions edress until someone notices and either does their own better one or confirms we'll get something soon[TM]
Ugleb	Posted - 2006.05.27 16:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Rodj Blake Please could you explain... * How, as an Amarrian RPer who supports his Emperor, I'm supposed to do my stuff without an Emperor? * How pro-Sarum RPers are meant to do the bidding of their house when it doesn't have a leader? * How pro-Thukker RPers are meant to support their tribe when it's relationship with the Republic still hasn't been explained many months after standings were changed? * How having a democratic state dither over the choice of it's President for two years is consistent with Eve having a believable back-story? I believe that the RP community is a great asset to this game that we all love, and provides colour and depth to everyone's experience whether they sit at a gate wondering why anyone would be so crazy to have a large fleet composed of only Amarrian ships, or if they just read about the Ushra'Khan's exploits in the news. But many of us are getting a little exasperated by the lack of progress on some of Eve's major storylines. RPers from at least five factions are ready to follow your lead. Give us dynamic storylines, and we will pay you back ten-fold. Hear hear, we media *****s of the rp community can only do so much y'know. And we're dying to know what we're supposed to make of the Thukkers these days, for all we know they're flogging slaves to the Angel Cartel. I'd also like to get some kind of "yes we can hear you" from the Republic about the Vitoc cure. That little thing thast could potentially plunge big chunks of the Amarr Empire into chaos or, oh I dunno be used to treat some slaves. We ran a series of player events in the aftermath of Ullia Hnolku's death (damn you CAIN :P ) and held a big rally to get the Republic's attention. We made it into the news but the Republic never actually said anything at all. "a memo has been sent to midular" would have been more helpful. At least then we could blame her busy schedule for the slow response, or say her dog ate it. Something. As Nebulai has apparently been missing for several months I propose direct action to be taken immediately. As soon as I get home everyone is to gather in Yulai and set course for Jove space. We're going a rescue mission! And while we're there we can look for the mind control devices they must have used to brainwash the Thukkers. And possibly the clone vats where they're making the Gallente electoral officials that are generating all this red tape. It's all a Jove plot you know. Oh yes.
Parallax Error	Posted - 2006.05.27 18:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. Congratulations, you've just confirmed mine (and I suspect a lot of the RP communities) views that CCP do not give a damn about the prime fiction of this game. It's pretty sad for a so called evolving game.
Ly'sol	Posted - 2006.05.27 20:11:00 - [20] Originally by: Parallax Error Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. Congratulations, you've just confirmed mine (and I suspect a lot of the RP communities) views that CCP do not give a damn about the prime fiction of this game. It's pretty sad for a so called evolving game. On the contrary, Perhaps one should look at the players RP community not taking these events when they are dished out. To say that its the actors and producers dont do enough and the players are free from the obligation is a bit of a stretch.

Parallax Error	Posted - 2006.05.27 20:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Ly'sol Originally by: Parallax Error Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. Congratulations, you've just confirmed mine (and I suspect a lot of the RP communities) views that CCP do not give a damn about the prime fiction of this game. It's pretty sad for a so called evolving game. On the contrary, Perhaps one should look at the players RP community not taking these events when they are dished out. To say that its the actors and producers dont do enough and the players are free from the obligation is a bit of a stretch. Oh dear, you've managed to comment on pretty much everything bar what I actually talked about in my post. We are talking about the prime fiction here, backgrounds for the new races, the conclusion of events like the Gallente Elections, the lack of a head for both the Empire and the Sarum family and the sudden about turn of the Thukker standings without so much as a half decent explanation. I did not at any stage mention the actual events in which players have a direct part to play, I am talking about the areas (prime fiction) where CCP and only CCP can make the final decisions to what happens.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.05.27 20:46:00 - [22] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 27/05/2006 20:48:58 Originally by: Ly'sol Originally by: Parallax Error Originally by: Gnauton They're on the way. Congratulations, you've just confirmed mine (and I suspect a lot of the RP communities) views that CCP do not give a damn about the prime fiction of this game. It's pretty sad for a so called evolving game. On the contrary, Perhaps one should look at the players RP community not taking these events when they are dished out. To say that its the actors and producers dont do enough and the players are free from the obligation is a bit of a stretch. Yes, you're right. They took a look at the apathy of the Minnie RPers after the Mabnen incident and decided that it wasn't worth bothering with. They took a look at the poor response of Amarrian RPers to the long-running, often-stalled Tetrimon arc and figured that there was no interest. /sarcasm off. Right now, I feel like John Cleese's character in the film Clockwise. I can cope with the continual disappointment. It's the hope which is unbearable. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Ly'sol	Posted - 2006.05.27 22:14:00 - [23] Prime Fiction has always been a problem...from lack of new chronicals to stalled storylines from protien delicacies to transcranial microprocessors. this is nothing new. And as subscription base grows this is only going to continue to get worse. One thing i do not like is the new chronicals being something you have to buy the e-on magazine to ever see them. then again there is the quality issue. And back to player envolement. It is an issue...Outside of the people directly effected by the Teterimon event (Members of PIE and the likes) who knows what it is? All i knew is we a had internal war about to brew. Rodj, Parallax, me and the tree are roleplayers and know what it is about. But if there is going to be a major event...it cant just envole a small percentage of the community on the off chance when the actors come online to do thier thing. some may say it is not immersive enough for the people playing the game....could be seen as catering to a specific group of players. The jist of what i said in my first post is, if you want to see conclusions to these arcs, get more people involed to help you push it forward to let the events team know whats up. and stay proactive. Whats going to look better? PIE and ID want an event...or PIE and ID and about thirty other 20 man corps want the event. which is going to make them get off thier butts to do something? im on your side here guys....i want follow through as well. but like with anything...its probally going to take more than your niche in the RP community to get this type of thing on thier priorities list.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.05.27 22:17:00 - [24] While I don't give a crap about RP, i really do hope there is an "OmberZombie declared gallente president" news-story just because: a) he deserves it b) he doens't have anything near an RP name c) he declared himself a while ago d) it would finish the event and shut everyone up e) he never actually entered
Ly'sol	Posted - 2006.05.27 23:21:00 - [25] reminds me of one ppost i saw RPer: This is "such and such" space, you are to clear out of here. #1: Who the @#$% is that guy #2: Just an RPer #1: LOLZ *%&^in moron...d00d lets killz him so he can RP hes dead and then go cyberz some fat guy. <shrugs> Would you guys rather have Sony Online Entertainment running things?
Gaius Kador	Posted - 2006.05.27 23:37:00 - [26] Tallyho! ----------------------------------------------
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.05.28 09:02:00 - [27] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 28/05/2006 09:04:09 Ly'sol, why does an expanding player base make it more difficult for them to write PF? Does writing a news item or chronicle become more difficult in proportion to the number of people who are going to read it? CCP seem to be able to start new arcs OK, so why the delay on the old ones? If they're waiting for Kali or FW, then there's a chance that by the time we see any progress nobody who cares will be left. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Darmed Khan	Posted - 2006.05.28 10:54:00 - [28] Ooh, a lack-of-RP ***ing thread! Since Gnauton and Nebulai are probably off on holiday this weekend, I guess we'll have to wait until next week for an answer. So with regards to that, how about making the next devblog all to do with explaining why these important story arcs have fallen off the radar, what timeline we will** see each arc finished off in, and what's being done to make sure this never happens again? ----------------------------
Logan Xerxes	Posted - 2006.05.28 11:50:00 - [29] Seriously CCP... Finish this stuff guys. It just looks bad dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Logan/StaticCharge.wmv Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Majaraw Awalabas	Posted - 2006.05.28 15:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Darmed Khan Since Gnauton and Nebulai are probably off on holiday this weekend, I guess we'll have to wait until next week for an answer. So with regards to that, how about making the next devblog all to do with explaining why these important story arcs have fallen off the radar, what timeline we will see each arc finished off in, and what's being done to make sure this never happens again? As much as it offends my soul, my heart and my honor... I am compelled to agree 100% with Darmed Khan



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