avoid null sec??

ur assuming theres a problem that needs a solution. lots of ppl like the idea of big fleet fights. TiDi's a bit of a pain, but its surely better than crashes, or just plain DC's followed by not being able to log in.

Null is the home of big fleet fights and small skirmish fights are the norm else where.

so go else where rather than nerf other ppls play style.

Something I have mentioned in the past as a "solution" to many "problems" that EVE currently has* is the introduction of collision mechanics that would force a fleet to spread out, while also opening the option of suicide fleets and such. A fleet that can't all pile into one small blob of space will have to use different tactics than current fleets, because they won't all be able to alpha the same target, or as easily use any of the other tactics that require the DPS ships to essentially be in the same place.


*Those words are in quotes because their status as problems and solutions is subjective, of course.

if you don't like large scale fights; don't participate in them.

there's no reason to ruin a part of the game because it doesn't interest you.

Plz reread my posts: i dont want to ruin them , i want to improve them.

By turning every single fight, ever, into a stalemate thanks to large amounts of logi ships and triage carriers?

There was a discussion along these lines way back when i was at fanfest 2007. the concept was to create a tar gettable 'blob' entity that would be based on cumulative sig of those within it.
this cause fleets to break down into less coherent groups and make a well co-ordinated fleet far more effective despite numbers.
A secondary factor this introduced was that blobs of sub cap ships could be heavily punished by the likes of Bs or dreads, because the blob sig would be so large they could effectively shoot into a swarm of ships and hit something where damage would be applied randomly.

obviously it would be a sizeable change for the battle mechanics and there would be technical issues around defining a blob and what / who was inside / outside of it.

it's something i've always thought of a decent solution to the blob 'problem' but i suspect the technical issues outweigh the value it would bring.

sooo...a fleet has several light drones target their own say caps or supers and they never die or die that much slower if logi'd up (when not in siege/triage ofc)?

They'd be targetting them, ergo friendly fire triggers the damage nerf. Lights obviously chosen since the smallest damage taken to make this work and 10's of people can realistically send out just 1 light drone to "attack" the caps/supers.


Like mentioned you may want to find a new home. You see...its a viscious cycle. Super/Caps need support. So the BS' come. They need their support for smaller stuff. So the BC's come, BC's are a bit slower so out come the cruisers. And for the smaller stuff still left, wth, bring the frigates.




If it must be 0.0 consider the skirmish crews. You won't own space...but you won't be running in 800 man fleets either. Been ouf ot touch tbh of late with fleet trends. I don't think crews like RK roll blob style with caps to blot out the sun, someone please correct if wrong.

By turning every single fight, ever, into a stalemate thanks to large amounts of logi ships and triage carriers?

sooo...a fleet has several light drones target their own say caps or supers and they never die or die that much slower if logi'd up (when not in siege/triage ofc)?

They'd be targetting them, ergo friendly fire triggers the damage nerf. Lights obviously chosen since the smallest damage taken to make this work and 10's of people can realistically send out just 1 light drone to "attack" the caps/supers.

Nice interesting. Was it discussed by devs or only by players?

By turning every single fight, ever, into a stalemate thanks to large amounts of logi ships and triage carriers?

sooo...a fleet has several light drones target their own say caps or supers and they never die or die that much slower if logi'd up (when not in siege/triage ofc)?

They'd be targetting them, ergo friendly fire triggers the damage nerf. Lights obviously chosen since the smallest damage taken to make this work and 10's of people can realistically send out just 1 light drone to "attack" the caps/supers.


Like mentioned you may want to find a new home. You see...its a viscious cycle. Super/Caps need support. So the BS' come. They need their support for smaller stuff. So the BC's come, BC's are a bit slower so out come the cruisers. And for the smaller stuff still left, wth, bring the frigates.




If it must be 0.0 consider the skirmish crews. You won't own space...but you won't be running in 800 man fleets either. Been ouf ot touch tbh of late with fleet trends. I don't think crews like RK roll blob style with caps to blot out the sun, someone please correct if wrong.

If a ship can only take a maximum damage from 10 different ships, and there are 300 on each side, that means there are 30 targets.

Do you really think that logi will be able to keep up with 30 different targets taking damage from 10 battleships? Or whatever is doing the shooting.

Doubtful.

Maybe you should actually think about the idea before posting nonsense.

EDIT: Anything that breaks up the absolute drudgery of 0.0 blob warfare is a good idea.

Do I think 30-40 logi, which isn't too extreme for a battleship fleet in null, can handle twenty five targets (Since fleets are 255, not 300)?

Yes, actually. I do.