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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:52:00 -
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Cebraio wrote: He may have phrased it badly, but if you read the OP and not just the headline, it's obvious that he is talking about in-game representation. No, it really isnt.
Cebraio wrote:What makes you think he's an adult btw? EVE is rated pegi 12.
Because a child capable of playing eve would know better than to ask such an elementary question.
and this Tippia wrote:Major Xadi wrote:OP was really asking how many systems distant from his present system he could scan since it's not apparent from the starmap in game UhmGǪ "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
404
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Posted - 2014.05.08 15:59:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Cebraio wrote: He may have phrased it badly, but if you read the OP and not just the headline, it's obvious that he is talking about in-game representation. No, it really isnt. Yes, it really is. Unless you're purposely missing the point. Buuuuuuut anyway, I'm out of here. I forgot to bring my high horse, so I can't stay with you. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13322
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:05:00 -
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Someone taped a Buzz Lightyear to the hood of my truck at work once.
I ripped it off and threw it.
It went about 50 yards.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3998
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:09:00 -
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Cebraio wrote: Yes, it really is. Unless you're purposely missing the point. Buuuuuuut anyway, I'm out of here. I forgot to bring my high horse, so I can't stay with you.
And normally you guys are good at poasting
You must be new "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Major Xadi
QuAD-F Non Unionised Bittervets Society
37
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Major Xadi wrote:OP was really asking how many systems distant from his present system he could scan since it's not apparent from the starmap in game UhmGǪ
Thanks Tippia. It seems you just never run out of things to learn about this game |

Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
225
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:16:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Congratulations GD. To this reasonable question there are only two serious and helpful answers in this thread. All others are purposely missing the point or direct towards third party tools for JUMP range calculations, which are also not what OP has asked for. Found the white knight.
Wait..... This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |

Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
467
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:20:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Cebraio wrote: He may have phrased it badly, but if you read the OP and not just the headline, it's obvious that he is talking about in-game representation. No, it really isnt. Yes, it really is:James Nikolas Tesla wrote:I recently looked at my Remote Sensing skill and it says this:
The ability to gather and analyze remote sensing data from satellites in orbit around a planet and produce properly calibrated surveys.
Level 1: allows scans within 1 ly Level 2: allows scans within 3 ly Level 3: allows scans within 5 ly Level 4: allows scans within 7 ly Level 5: allows scans within 9 ly
Exactly how far is a lightyear? I assume it is one jump but I doubt it. Any clarification is appreciated. |

Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
404
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:20:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Cebraio wrote: Yes, it really is. Unless you're purposely missing the point. Buuuuuuut anyway, I'm out of here. I forgot to bring my high horse, so I can't stay with you.
And normally you guys are good at poasting You must be new Because continuing a pointless discussion with you would equal to good posting, right? I rather be a bad poster then.
Yes, I'm new.
Erufen Rito wrote:Cebraio wrote:Congratulations GD. To this reasonable question there are only two serious and helpful answers in this thread. All others are purposely missing the point or direct towards third party tools for JUMP range calculations, which are also not what OP has asked for. Found the white knight. Wait..... The world is not ever as black and white as it seems. 
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4000
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:26:00 -
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Cebraio wrote: Because continuing a pointless discussion with you would equal to good posting, right? I rather be a bad poster then.
No, continuing your silly nonsense would be bad. Its a bad reflection on the otherwise good work your Alliance does to sweep away rubbish like your poasts. "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4000
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:27:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:
Exactly how far is a lightyear? I assume it is one jump
Uh huh. And this is a sensible, non-idiotic question that cant be looked up in seconds, quineg? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |
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Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
467
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:
Exactly how far is a lightyear? I assume it is one jump
Uh huh. And this is a sensible, non-idiotic question that cant be looked up in seconds, quineg? Irrelevant - it still makes it clear that he's asking for in-game info. |

Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
36
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Major Xadi wrote:OP was really asking how many systems distant from his present system he could scan since it's not apparent from the starmap in game UhmGǪ
You learn something new every day, thanks Tippia. 
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4001
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:36:00 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote: Irrelevant
Couldnt agree more lol "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
48
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Posted - 2014.05.08 16:56:00 -
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Youre dumber than the average dumb eve player. Only you, at least, don't try to hide it.
I like you. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3577
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:32:00 -
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Use a jump planner to figure out the distance between systems.
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/jump http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php http://eve.battleclinic.com/route_finder.php |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
2298
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:34:00 -
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Forget lightyears. How fast is a parsec and which way is Kessel? "Its the pod I'm after. The ship is just a pod condom." -- Turgesson "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion |

Kreaven Raines
KakingXtreme
0
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:12:00 -
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1au= 149597870700 metres 1ly = 9454254955488000 metres |

Serene Repose
1339
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:13:00 -
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I can't believe Tesla asked this question. This has to be a troll thread. I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1304
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:23:00 -
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can we get a banana for scale ?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21599
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:28:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:can we get a banana for scale ? Ok. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
1230
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:33:00 -
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Actually it would make more sence to use Parsec in New Eden as it is not cohereant to use the Julian Year.
TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9615
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:10:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:same lenght as the light travels in a year. You're welcome man Give or take gravitional distortion and the observer's perception based on the point and condition inherent in that observation. What? Light travels the same speed in all reference frames. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
37
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:18:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:same lenght as the light travels in a year. You're welcome man Give or take gravitional distortion and the observer's perception based on the point and condition inherent in that observation. What? Light travels the same speed in all reference frames.
depends on the medium it is traveling through (light in water is considerably slower than in air and that is again slower than in a vacuum, it's the principle refraction is based on), though gravitic lensing primarily changes the direction photos are travelling in, not their speed so much, though the visual effect is quite similar to refraction. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9616
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:24:00 -
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Meiyang Lee wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:same lenght as the light travels in a year. You're welcome man Give or take gravitional distortion and the observer's perception based on the point and condition inherent in that observation. What? Light travels the same speed in all reference frames. depends on the medium it is traveling through (light in water is considerably slower than in air and that is again slower than in a vacuum, it's the principle refraction is based on), though gravitic lensing primarily changes the direction photos are travelling in, not their speed so much, though the visual effect is quite similar to refraction. Medium is independent of reference frame. If light is traveling through water it'll still be traveling through water if I look at it standing on the shore or in a spaceship in orbit. And it'll be traveling at the same speed from both perspectives.
Gravitational lensing doesn't actually change the path of light - the light is merely following the straightest path through curved space-time, so it appears to bend because of the local curvature of space. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
137
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:27:00 -
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Meiyang Lee wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:same lenght as the light travels in a year. You're welcome man Give or take gravitional distortion and the observer's perception based on the point and condition inherent in that observation. What? Light travels the same speed in all reference frames. depends on the medium it is traveling through (light in water is considerably slower than in air and that is again slower than in a vacuum, it's the principle refraction is based on), though gravitic lensing primarily changes the direction photos are travelling in, not their speed so much, though the visual effect is quite similar to refraction. This is inaccurate.
Light always travels at the same speed.
When light travels through a medium, it spends time interacting with "stuff", (atoms absorbing and re-emitting) which makes it appear to be slower, while it actually isn't. |

Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
137
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:28:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:... following the straightest path through curved space-time ... I like how this part often blows the minds of people.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9618
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:30:00 -
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Solecist Project's Alt wrote:Meiyang Lee wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:same lenght as the light travels in a year. You're welcome man Give or take gravitional distortion and the observer's perception based on the point and condition inherent in that observation. What? Light travels the same speed in all reference frames. depends on the medium it is traveling through (light in water is considerably slower than in air and that is again slower than in a vacuum, it's the principle refraction is based on), though gravitic lensing primarily changes the direction photos are travelling in, not their speed so much, though the visual effect is quite similar to refraction. This is inaccurate. Light always travels at the same speed. When light travels through a medium, it spends time interacting with "stuff", (atoms absorbing and re-emitting)which makes it appear to be slower, while it actually isn't. Yeah, this is also correct. Thank you for adding that. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4012
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Meiyang Lee wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Karen Avioras wrote:same lenght as the light travels in a year. You're welcome man Give or take gravitional distortion and the observer's perception based on the point and condition inherent in that observation. What? Light travels the same speed in all reference frames. depends on the medium it is traveling through (light in water is considerably slower than in air and that is again slower than in a vacuum, it's the principle refraction is based on), though gravitic lensing primarily changes the direction photos are travelling in, not their speed so much, though the visual effect is quite similar to refraction. Medium is independent of reference frame. If light is traveling through water it'll still be traveling through water if I look at it standing on the shore or in a spaceship in orbit. And it'll be traveling at the same speed from both perspectives. Gravitational lensing doesn't actually change the path of light - the light is merely following the straightest path through curved space-time, so it appears to bend because of the local curvature of space.
Oh ok. Sorry.
I thought that the passage of time appeared to be altered the closer to the speed of light you reached, therefore the length of time to travel the sdistance would vary depending if you were the subject or the object.
I really am trying to remember this stuff from school, so Ill take your word for it :) "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9618
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:34:00 -
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The only real difference as far as light is concerned has to do with its wavelength. If you're traveling at a very high speed towards a light source, the light you receive will have a shorter wavelength (higher frequency), and if you're traveling at a very high speed away from a light source, the light you receive has a longer wavelength (lower frequency). Blueshift and redshift, respectively.
Light coming from deeper in a gravitational well will also be redshifted, and light coming towards you from further out from the gravitational well will be blueshifted. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Solecist Project's Alt
Wildly Inept Pacifists
138
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Posted - 2014.05.08 19:45:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Oh ok. Sorry.
I thought that the passage of time appeared to be altered the closer to the speed of light you reached, therefore the length of time to travel the sdistance would vary depending if you were the subject or the object.
I really am trying to remember this stuff from school, so Ill take your word for it :) http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/22pi7o/eli5_why_does_light_travel/
This might be interesting for you.
It's not for those who believe they can read things and understand it immediately.
Great read.
A relevant part regarding time dilation:
Quote:By the way, this is why time dilation happens: something that's moving very fast relative to you is moving through space, but since they can only travel through spacetime at c, they have to be moving more slowly through time to compensate (from your point of view). |
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