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Heavypredator Singh
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Posted - 2014.05.24 08:42:00 -
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Cloaking ganking will be useless now. Minimum 20km to target is out of scram range. Fighting with bots breaks this part of game.
Maybe make it so if you cloak You can't run timer unless You go trough plex gate again. Would fix ppl plexing in cloaky frigates costing 2 mil without risk and less bots. pvp would still be there. Large plexes are so rare it doesnt matter. |
Heavypredator Singh
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Posted - 2014.05.24 09:35:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Heavypredator Singh wrote:Cloaking ganking will be useless now. Minimum 20km to target is out of scram range. Fighting with bots breaks this part of game.
Maybe make it so if you cloak You can't run timer unless You go trough plex gate again. Would fix ppl plexing in cloaky frigates costing 2 mil without risk and less bots. pvp would still be there. Large plexes are so rare it doesnt matter. You haven't bothered to check out the coming changes on SISI or read the numerous posts in this thread about them. I think your "ganking" of farmers is safe enough, just learn to "pvp" without the "cloak gank" advantage and you'll be padding your killboard with rookie FW members again before you know it. Alternately, spend some isk on a faction scram and get a Keres or Lachesis **Funny how the use of one word can make a bad impression.
If i spend 300-500mil on cov ops ship i want all the advantages of this ship - if they nerf close aproach to target there is no reason to use it there because of its price. |
Heavypredator Singh
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Posted - 2014.05.24 11:41:00 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:Heavypredator Singh wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:Heavypredator Singh wrote:Cloaking ganking will be useless now. Minimum 20km to target is out of scram range. Fighting with bots breaks this part of game.
Maybe make it so if you cloak You can't run timer unless You go trough plex gate again. Would fix ppl plexing in cloaky frigates costing 2 mil without risk and less bots. pvp would still be there. Large plexes are so rare it doesnt matter. You haven't bothered to check out the coming changes on SISI or read the numerous posts in this thread about them. I think your "ganking" of farmers is safe enough, just learn to "pvp" without the "cloak gank" advantage and you'll be padding your killboard with rookie FW members again before you know it. Alternately, spend some isk on a faction scram and get a Keres or Lachesis **Funny how the use of one word can make a bad impression. If i spend 300-500mil on cov ops ship i want all the advantages of this ship - if they nerf close aproach to target there is no reason to use it there because of its price. You realize that if you take the time to actually pilot your ship, you can stay outside the decloak range and get close enough to grab the guy... of course if he sits well inside the decloak range to prevent this you could grab him without the cloak anyway.
Not if he stays at center of plex not mentioning he can use prop mod whencovert ops cant while cloaked. One arazu with bonus to point range is not the answer - what with all the rest? Make stupid change and not what ppl want and nerf covert ops in plexes - good job there ccp. |
Heavypredator Singh
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Posted - 2014.05.24 15:44:00 -
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If you can still farm plexes in 2mil frig and make it hard for covertops (that cost 20-40 times more) to hunt then the buff is to farmer not pvp covops pilot. Farming now will be totally safe if you have brain. Nothing in plex then you have 100% clear warpin and 30km buffer from all sides. Nerfed covops, made farming safer - this is the result.
It takes 5 seconds to start locking, it takes another 1-2 seconds to lock in astero. 7 seconds + now time to get in range - only stupid ppl will get caught. Eaven cruisers warpout in around 5 seconds. Have fun with this now. You can't eaven try to bump them to delay warp - great safety feature for farmers. |
Heavypredator Singh
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Posted - 2014.05.25 00:01:00 -
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@Sgt Ocker
covert ops cloaky ships are there to force fight - if it cant do that it is useless - so it is useless in plexes now - noone said it is insta win - targeting delay was enough to make it hard - now it will be almost impossible.
Changes had to be made but these changes are stupid - actually making it safer to farm by nerfing covertops ships in plexes.
If You tell me You can force fight with ship that is visible on dscan then gl with that - noone with brain will let you. People that pvp will fight you if they think they can win - people that dont and farm, you need to force it on them.
My way is all kind of ways - i fly covert/t1/t2, farm/pvp into plexes and i see nerf to covert ops that is not needed and gives advantage to farmer. Your inability to see the problem from all points of view makes you ignorant - if you dont fly covertops then you think its ok to make them useless. I think nerfing whole set of ships is bad. |
Heavypredator Singh
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Posted - 2014.05.25 12:39:00 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Heavypredator Singh wrote:@Sgt Ocker
covert ops cloaky ships are there to force fight - if it cant do that it is useless - so it is useless in plexes now - noone said it is insta win - targeting delay was enough to make it hard - now it will be almost impossible.
Changes had to be made but these changes are stupid - actually making it safer to farm by nerfing covertops ships in plexes.
My way is all kind of ways - i fly covert/t1/t2, farm/pvp into plexes and i see nerf to covert ops that is not needed and gives advantage to farmer. Your inability to see the problem from all points of view makes you ignorant - if you dont fly covertops then you think its ok to make them useless. I think nerfing whole set of ships in plexes is bad and takes away your options - isnt eve all about doing stuff how you want it?
These FW changes are an insult to FW pvp players. Corps still dont have a way to tax members. Nerfing to stealth. No changes to timers. Yea lets make it more PvE by adding rats - wtf is it hisec missioning now? If I want PvE I will go to incursion or anomaly or mission. Next step replacing players fighting over systems with NPC? ccp is throwing stupid ideas into the hat and you are happy when they pull 3 of them from that hat... Actually I spend a lot of my time flying Blops - I have Widow, Sin and 4 X cyno 5 alts. I just choose not to use 1 bil isk ships to kill frigates in plexes. Calling me ignorant just shows pure ignorance, you presume but you presume wrong. You see removing cloaks as a negative thing but are not seeing any of the positives. I would say it is you that is ignorant, you are unable to consider a point of view that differs from your own. You have not bothered to test the upcoming changes yet are adamant they are bad.
There is no advantage to pvp players in disabling cloaking in 30km radius. It is advantage to players avoiding fights. More pve in plexes. How this helps fw pvp players? If You farm in fw you can be happy now. There is nothing for pvp players in this. This only cuts botting a little - bots were easy to kill anyway with use of a cloaky ship. So yea all the changes are to make bots work harder - not for fw players. If You dont see this I dont know how to say it so You understand. They just slapped fast fix so you dont send them tickets about bots and dont waste their time. Changes are not for you, not for me, its for ccp.
Instead of adding stupid rats they could make structure bash and remove timer. The more dps you get on field the faster you take down plex. More teamwork, less solo farming, less wasting time to capture systems, more pvp fleets, not easy to bot, if you want to farm you need to invest more isk, but yea lets make it lame instead.
So much they could do to make it realy warzone but no. Lets spend 10minutes changing beacon size to 30km and spawn more rats. |
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