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Doreen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:16:00 -
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Article link: Mel Brooks: My greatest film couldn't be made now The comedy legend says he's lucky he shot "Blazing Saddles" 40 years ago
Quote:"They can't make that movie today because everybody's so politically correct. You know, the NAACP would stop a great movie that would do such a great service to black people because of the N-word," says Brooks. "You've got to really examine these things and see what's right and what's wrong. Politically correct is absolutely wrong. Because it inhibits the freedom of thought. I'm so lucky that they weren't so strong then and that the people that let things happen on the screen weren't so powerful then. I was very lucky."
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Commissar Kate
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:30:00 -
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God forbid you offend anyone nowadays. You can end up in big trouble. People, who talk, don't know. People, who know, don't talk.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:33:00 -
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Yup. I read the article a few hours ago.
When the film is on broadcast TV, the N-word is bleeped and even the fart sounds are removed. They guys around the campfire, just sort of rise up and then sit down again silently in sequence, and it makes no sense at all.
I think the problem with the N-word and the other F-word is that they were just a part of ordinary conversation decades ago. But since the 60's these two words have only been used when hurled with other vitriol, to the point where any use of them is now considered spurious.
But even when the movie was released, Marlene Dietrich went quite public with her dissatisfaction with Madeline Khan's role. She was very "hurt". This points out how people just cannot seem to separate life from fiction. The whole movie is too absurd to be taken that seriously. I mean, back in the Old West, there was not even a Weimar Republic with it's unique stage productions in existence. IT's all just a fantasy (made obvious by the clearly visible facades in the Old West town.
It is a bizarre thing, but shows how fast social mores can indeed change. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
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Posted - 2014.05.09 13:54:00 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:God forbid you offend anyone nowadays. You can end up in big trouble. and the stupid thing? you don't even want to offend anybody and you still offend someone. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.09 14:21:00 -
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About the only thing I find offensive concerns movies and TV shows before 1970.
It's astonishing the sheer number of ethnic roles that were portrayed by white actors. What's interesting is none of them were ever cast as black. Thank goodness. That aspect got taken care of early on. But they played Mexican, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, South Pacific, Arabic.....you name it. For some reason, they were "okay".
So many great movies are now ruined by this. Mickey Rooney as the "Asian House Help" in "Breakfast at Tiffanys". I mean, just look at that make-up.
And Alec Guiness as Faisal in "Lawrence of Arabia". Ugh.
And here is a lovely nice white "Indian Family" from "Bonanza".
It's just astonishing. It may have worked if these shows were comedies or something. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:04:00 -
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Its sad the amount of comedy we will miss out on because of this sue-happy society we now live in.
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Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:About the only thing I find offensive concerns movies and TV shows before 1970. It's astonishing the sheer number of ethnic roles that were portrayed by white actors. What's interesting is none of them were ever cast as black. Thank goodness. That aspect got taken care of early on. But they played Mexican, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, South Pacific, Arabic.....you name it. For some reason, they were "okay". So many great movies are now ruined by this. Mickey Rooney as the "Asian House Help" in "Breakfast at Tiffanys". I mean, just look at that make-up. And Alec Guiness as Faisal in "Lawrence of Arabia". Ugh. And here is a lovely nice white "Indian Family" from "Bonanza". It's just astonishing. It may have worked if these shows were comedies or something. I don't see what the big deal is about that, sorry.
This quote sums up how I feel about this type of thing very well.
GÇ£It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ******* what?GÇ¥ ~ Stephen Fry Dorian Trollmak .-á9 - 0 (2) in fucks given **** Miley Cyrus Blasters > All |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:57:00 -
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Dorian Tormak wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:About the only thing I find offensive concerns movies and TV shows before 1970. It's astonishing the sheer number of ethnic roles that were portrayed by white actors. What's interesting is none of them were ever cast as black. Thank goodness. That aspect got taken care of early on. But they played Mexican, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, South Pacific, Arabic.....you name it. For some reason, they were "okay". So many great movies are now ruined by this. Mickey Rooney as the "Asian House Help" in "Breakfast at Tiffanys". I mean, just look at that make-up. And Alec Guiness as Faisal in "Lawrence of Arabia". Ugh. And here is a lovely nice white "Indian Family" from "Bonanza". It's just astonishing. It may have worked if these shows were comedies or something. I don't see what the big deal is about that, sorry.
Well, you are just different then. We are impressed. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:25:00 -
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^ As you should be . But man, Tropic Thunder must have really rustled your jimmies Dorian Trollmak .-á9 - 0 (2) in fucks given **** Miley Cyrus Blasters > All |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2014.05.09 19:44:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Its sad the amount of comedy we will miss out on because of this sue-happy society we now live in.
Watch "Four Lions".
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:17:00 -
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Dorian Tormak wrote:^ As you should be . But man, Tropic Thunder must have really rustled your jimmies
Not really. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:53:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: When the film is on broadcast TV, the N-word is bleeped and even the fart sounds are removed. They guys around the campfire, just sort of rise up and then sit down again silently in sequence, and it makes no sense at all.
This needs a link so that people know what they're missing.
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Doreen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:43:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Its sad the amount of comedy we will miss out on because of this sue-happy society we now live in.
Watch " Four Lions".

OMG..that preview was hilarious. I need to watch this.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:52:00 -
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Political correctness is offensive.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.-á-á- William Pitt |

Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:10:00 -
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People mistake their own defensiveness for someone else's offensiveness Dorian Trollmak .-á9 - 0 (2) in fucks given **** Miley Cyrus Blasters > All |

Angelique Duchemin
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.10 08:07:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:About the only thing I find offensive concerns movies and TV shows before 1970. It's astonishing the sheer number of ethnic roles that were portrayed by white actors. What's interesting is none of them were ever cast as black. Thank goodness. That aspect got taken care of early on. But they played Mexican, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, South Pacific, Arabic.....you name it. For some reason, they were "okay". So many great movies are now ruined by this. Mickey Rooney as the "Asian House Help" in "Breakfast at Tiffanys". I mean, just look at that make-up. And Alec Guiness as Faisal in "Lawrence of Arabia". Ugh. And here is a lovely nice white "Indian Family" from "Bonanza". It's just astonishing. It may have worked if these shows were comedies or something.
I'm surprised you left out John Wayne as Genghis Khan
But then we had an outrage thread on this very forum over the black Annie. They could very well have ended up putting Johnny Depp in the role.
The real issue is the number of ethnic actors who aren't getting roles while the movie industry casts white people in the very same roles.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2014.05.10 08:58:00 -
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Yep, PC crapolla. Just like I don't give a crud how many women they cast for star wars VII. Or why do I care what Nintendo does, that's their business. Even the NAACP can say stupid stuff if they want, as long as they don't shout fire in a movie theater. Say what you want, just remember, you can only have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.10 11:51:00 -
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Commissar Kate wrote:God forbid you offend anyone nowadays. You can end up in big trouble.
you're free to say whatever you want
others are, in turn, free to refuse to associate with you if they don't like what you say Twitter: @EVEAndski
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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:39:00 -
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Angelique Duchemin wrote:
Yuppers. There's just sooooo many.
What's amazing is the entire cast and crew of "Genghis Khan" is dead from cancer except Gina Lollabridgida, who is apparently immune to radiation.
They shot the entire thing on the testing grounds in Nevada. The Golden turkey Awards book had a photo of Wayne and about 4 other guys standing around looking at a geiger counter and smiling and laughing. Can't find it on the web though. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:42:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Yep, PC crapolla. Just like I don't give a crud how many women they cast for star wars VII. Or why do I care what Nintendo does, that's their business. Even the NAACP can say stupid stuff if they want, as long as they don't shout fire in a movie theater. Say what you want, just remember, you can only have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand.
So, you would have been OK if the miniseries "Roots" had an all white cast in black-face ?? "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.10 12:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Webvan wrote:Yep, PC crapolla. Just like I don't give a crud how many women they cast for star wars VII. Or why do I care what Nintendo does, that's their business. Even the NAACP can say stupid stuff if they want, as long as they don't shout fire in a movie theater. Say what you want, just remember, you can only have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead hand. So, you would have been OK if the miniseries "Roots" had an all white cast in black-face ?? Is there something wrong with that?
Edit: Other than the idea being around 100% stupid. Dorian Trollmak .-á9 - 0 (2) in fucks given **** Miley Cyrus Blasters > All |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:19:00 -
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Dorian Tormak wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
So, you would have been OK if the miniseries "Roots" had an all white cast in black-face ??
Is there something wrong with that?
A troll would have to ask.................... "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:26:00 -
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Political Correctness has gone so wild that you now have to stand at least 100m away when protesting a funeral of a dead solider with religious placards. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:29:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Political Correctness has gone so wild that you now have to stand at least 100m away when protesting a funeral of a dead solider with religious placards.
Anyone who makes a "commotion" based on spurious religious beliefs against a fallen soldier who fought for their lives needs 2 options: Immediate drafting to the front lines, or summary execution. End of story.
This is not political correctness. This is dignity and the rights of the family during a tragic time.
Let's see how you feel if they start doing this at weddings.....and decide to come to yours. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.10 13:44:00 -
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Just seems like Mel Brooks is trying to stay relevant (and failing). I love Blazing Saddles and History of the World, Part 1 as much as anyone but we have plenty offensive and compelling films to watch. And Richard Pryor is hilarious, but we also have many comedians in this day and age that are equally as or more funny.
I see the word "political correctness" being thrown around in the thread. Maybe you guys can come out and say exactly what you mean. There are certain things that aren't acceptable in this day and age. That is a good thing. It means our society is evolving.
I sure as hell wouldn't want to revert back to decades past. It would be hell. Take solace knowing that even after the sun sets, and your sky is filled with darkness, that the sun is still shining. -D. Entervention Psychotic Monk joins BNI |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:22:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote: Edit: I think there's a *more* important discussion we should be having about why modern action films don't measure up to classics like Robocop (isn't it amazing how violent it was?) and Schwarzenegger's action flicks in his heyday.
Because of this:
"Of course, Hollywood initially could care less. Applying the GÇÿinfantGÇÖ ideal to their blockbuster entertainment, they have quickly recognized that international audiences really donGÇÖt require a lot of depth and detail in their popcorn past times.
"Instead, foreign markets apparently want brightly colored objects moving rapidly in front of their faces, just like infants do. This is not meant to diminish the importance of such box office returns or to slander an entire population, but minimal dialogue and maximum eye candy have taken several questionable properties far into the billion dollar stratosphere.
"This, in turn, has caused the fanboy voice to become even more aggressive and shrill. Filled with a sense of entitlement that only a few decades of dedicated comic book collecting (or film going) can create, they now insist on indirectly determining the make-up of these movies by their grating group speak approach, in defiance of current business model which has Tinsel Town rolling in the bucks."
"ItGÇÖs all becoming too much. You can already feel the glut. In 2014, audiences will revisit the X-Men, have already seen what Captain America and Spidey can do, and thereGÇÖs the Guardians of the Galaxy, as well as other possibilities being shuffled around, and things only get worse in 2015. With Marvel making plans for the next decade and a half (!) and DC determined to catch-up, the situation will hit maximum density before long, resulting in an even bigger backlash than the one weGÇÖre seeing now. "
Killing the Fatted Comic Book Movie Calf "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.10 16:22:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Dorian Tormak wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
So, you would have been OK if the miniseries "Roots" had an all white cast in black-face ??
Is there something wrong with that? A troll would have to ask.................... Lol. Come on son. Just fess up. A white dude can't play a black dude? That's the heart of racism. Like saying a white man can't say the N-word. Dorian Trollmak .-á9 - 0 (2) in fucks given **** Miley Cyrus Blasters > All |

Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2014.05.10 16:58:00 -
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No but "black face" is about as racist a thing you one could do without rope and a pointy hat. |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:22:00 -
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Dorian Tormak wrote: Lol. Come on son. Just fess up. A white dude can't play a black dude? That's the heart of racism. Like saying a white man can't say the N-word.
I am not your "son". Creep. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.10 20:59:00 -
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What is political correct, socially acceptable and/or morally justifiable depends highly on cultural background, political system, belief system, etcetera *) of the geological location you are in. For example, what is political correct in the USA can be quite different from the same thing in Russia, Japan or on Tristan da Cunha for that matter.
As a discussion like this inevitably leads to a discussion on real life politics, flaming and personal attacks, this thread gets a lock.
*) among many other possible factors. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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