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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:44:00 -
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will you be releasing the same vote info that was released last year, so players can get a feel for how the election played out and who was 'close' and might get over the hump next year (and should start campaigning now, etc) Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7329
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:45:00 -
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also lets just get it out of the way before dinsdale comes in here with his rant that the statistic he wants isn't in here and this proves nullsec cartels etc etc: what percentage of eligible accounts cast votes? Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7329
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:49:00 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:a big thank you to all the people who told folks not to vote i can't stress this enough, couldn't have done it without you dinsy
same time next year, maybe this time we can reward you for each hundred less highsec votes Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7329
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Posted - 2014.05.09 15:56:00 -
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Callduron wrote:How many votes did each candidate get?
(31,294/15)+1 Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7330
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:03:00 -
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Psychotic Monk came close this year, pity he didn't get on. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7330
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:08:00 -
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my initial analysis is: lol pubbies:
Quote: Transfer from "Sion Kumitomo": Votes: 4314.000000, Factor: 0.516226, Excess: 2227.000000 2116.011358 votes to "mynnna" 36.135837 votes to "Angry Mustache" 27.359991 votes to "Ali Aras" 6.710941 votes to "commander aze" 5.678489 votes to "PsychoBitch" 5.162262 votes to "Mike Azariah" 5.162262 votes to Exhausted
Transfer from "corebloodbrothers": Votes: 2944.000000, Factor: 0.291101, Excess: 857.000000 507.388247 votes to Exhausted
Transfer from "mynnna": Votes: 2902.011358, Factor: 0.280844, Excess: 815.011358 583.253075 votes to "Ali Aras" 114.498132 votes to "Angry Mustache" 20.121332 votes to Exhausted
thanks for not filling out your ballots highsec :toot: Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7331
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:18:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:time to make myself stupid; am i the only one that doesn't quite get this seemingly unnecessary STV system? especially since there weren't 14 people i wanted to vote for.
(think i'm one of the high sec people weasilor is laughing at for not filling my ballot) the point of STV is so that you don't suffer by not strategically voting, either by voting for someone who will get on anyway or who isn't viable
as a goon, if I want to vote in a first past the post system we have to carefully organize splitting our votes, or most would be wasted (sion got more than double the votes needed to get on)
highsec, on the other hand, has to carefully consolidate around people who might get elected or their vote is dispersed among ten non-viable candidates when they could have gotten two on
it's harder to fill out the ballot, but it's easier to make your choices: you don't have to strategically vote so you just rank as many candidates as you want instead of carefully weighing who you like and their viability
however if you don't fill out enough your vote was wasted: basically voter who filled out several spots on their list got much more voting power than core's voters. my vote almost assuredly was used to elect mynnna or sion. a core voter's vote has about a 1/4th chance of having been flushed down the toilet Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7331
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:22:00 -
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Niko Lorenzio wrote:Billy Hix wrote:At least Dolan has gone so there is a decent chance things will get better by next year. Dolan is leaving Community team? Why? I thought he was doing a great job. he's going to riot Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7331
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:24:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Weaselior wrote:Psychotic Monk came close this year, pity he didn't get on. tbh it looks like a pretty decent slate. I'm hoping for another rather boring year of relatively drama free contructive work from a professional team. yeah its a good slate, it could use a few more official goonswarm-endorsed members but pretty good nonethless Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7332
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:36:00 -
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Two step wrote:This blog is useless without the ballot file (I understand the CSM is on the case though!)
Edit: (after getting the ballot file)
Here is my analysis that I ran last time around. Key: Top Votes - # of votes with *all* the people at the top Complete Votes - # of votes with all the people in the ballot somewhere Partial Votes - # of votes with at least 2 of the people in the ballot somewhere that is not a top or complete vote Solo Votes - # of votes that had just one person listed in the group
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Bloc - Provi (corebloodbrothers) Top Votes 2944 (9% of votes) Complete Votes 2945 (9% of votes) Partial Votes 0 Solo Votes 1736 Total Votes 7625 (24% of votes)
your total here makes no sense: each solo vote is also a top vote and a complete vote, each complete vote is a top vote (and those numbers should be the same I don't understand why they're off by one)
you can't just total all categories like this as you'll have some overlaps Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7332
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Posted - 2014.05.09 16:38:00 -
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Jayem See wrote:Lol - how dare they vote as a bloc. uh it's not voting as a bloc i'm making fun of them for and I can't encourage them strongly enough to vote exactly like they did this year next year Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7333
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:07:00 -
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Jayem See wrote: I may be misunderstanding, certainly not an unheard of occurence, but if their objective was just to get Core into the CSM then they succeeded.
Even if every other vote they could have taken was wasted, it's still mission success for them. No?
if I give you three boxes filled with money and you trip and drop one into the river because you tied your shoelaces to each other by mistake, you've still got two boxes of money
but that doesn't change that you lost an entire box full of money by being unable to tie your shoelaces Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7334
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:35:00 -
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i was going to explain more why you're all nuts but i then realized that i want you to stay this way so i will agree that you did exactly the right thing, thanks buddies Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7334
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:48:00 -
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Jayem See wrote:Weaselior wrote:i was going to explain more why you're all nuts but i then realized that i want you to stay this way so i will agree that you did exactly the right thing, thanks buddies Lol - run out of arguments so will just say I am right. Good work. you were right, I was wrong to criticize your voting strategy
please accept my apology and inform everyone else that you were correct Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7334
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Posted - 2014.05.09 17:52:00 -
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Jayem See wrote: Carry on being told how to vote by someone else and realise that this is just a game.
you are right
all, i was wrong to suggest you should vote for more than one person. please accept my sincere apologies, and i hope you vote according to your view of strategy next year and not mine
sincerely, weaselior Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7339
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Posted - 2014.05.09 21:15:00 -
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CCP Leeloo wrote:Freelancer117 wrote:Eligible voters have cast 31,294 votes for the CSM9, for CSM8 this number was 49,702 votes cast by eligible voters, and for CSM7 that was 59,109 votes cast by eligible voters...... CSM8 was by far the most productive council yet and it has been a pleasure to work with them. We have released the raw data on voting, and if people want to speculate or run math on it then that's fine by us (: You're right that CSM8 was really vocal and spoke a lot in the media over the course of their term, they were also pretty active on the forums. However only a small percentage of EVE players actually read our forums and news feeds. This is something we would like to change, but it will take time. It is out feeling that the downturn in votes is due to a lack of awareness, and we will be working with CSM9 to raise more awareness of the council and exactly what they do, and will be looking at new methods of communication to reach out to players that are currently not engaged with the CSM. The primary thing that lets people know the CSM did things are the minutes. Under Dolan, the minutes were seriously delayed and deliberately made uninteresting (the goal was to make sure you never got new info from the minutes). I realize why that was happening, but it's incompatable with conveying what the CSM does. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7344
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:17:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote: Choosing candidates to vote for was easier. But some of the voters did not bother to choose at all, they voted as their bloc had predetermined. It is in THEIR best interest that other lesser blocs or other voters believe the process to be flawed or useless. Thisd is what Weaselior is laughing about. Every person who declaims the election process as broken or the entire concept a farce hand the power to the organized groups who do vote.
can't we all accept my apology for suggesting voting tactics for other blocs or groups and encourage them to do whatever makes sense to them, especially provi block and anyone who listens to dinsdale Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7344
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Posted - 2014.05.09 22:34:00 -
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Darin Vanar wrote:Dinsdale for CSM! i would vote for dinsdale for csm as long as someone promised me video of the summits Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2014.05.10 14:18:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:I just want to know one thing, how many votes did I get? Excel can't seem to open this document.
I dream of a CSM that is not built up almost entirely of CFC candidates and their pets. you came in third to last
the only people you beat were ones i don't think even announced they were running Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:06:00 -
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i'm going to start a Draft Dinsdale campaign for next year's csm Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2014.05.10 17:59:00 -
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Xenuria wrote: I guess that makes sense. The CFC ballot had me right after Riverini. I am not saying that PTP was better than the current STV, I am just saying that being able to nuke a candidate by having your bloc put them in last place on your ballot is silly.
you were not on the CFC ballot at all and that's not how stv works Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7358
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Posted - 2014.05.10 18:06:00 -
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if we ever spend 3.15 trillion on extra votes for the CSM i can assure you we will be a lot more obvious about it because it would be one of the most hilarious trolls ever to literally buy a csm seat
like really, doing evil and not taking credit for us isn't our MO Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7361
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Posted - 2014.05.11 13:50:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote: You are beginning to act like like a Tippia alt, posting for the sake of posting, and, as I have said before, the best thing to do with Tippia is to let him have the last word as soon as possible, so I grant you the last word on this.
Take care.
eleven minutes later
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Malcanis wrote:Whatever, I'm done arguing in circles with people who've already made their mind up.
Fine, it's all a lie, we spent the whole time swapping youtube links and competing to see who'd get to give Hilmer a sloppy BJ at fanfest. There, happy now? Stop having a tantrum and act your age.
stop posting you twit, you were completely wrong and malcanis was completely right Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7361
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Posted - 2014.05.11 13:54:00 -
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screaming you will unsub if you don't get your way from ccp, something basically only highseccers do, is entirely different from describing why groups of players have started logging in less
one is useless whining, the other is identifying and explaining a problem Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7362
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:59:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Malcanis wrote:But when CCP Seagull presented her rational, sensible, progressive, inevitable plan to us early last year, my heart sank because I knew that the implication that plan - not fixing sov, not fixing power projection for at least another year - would mean that EVE would suffer damage.
And now we're seeing that damage. It has been 4 years since Dominion. It will be at least another 12-18 months before 0.0 might be reformed. The PCU is going to sink further. Subs are going to decline. And all I, the elected player representative can say is "Well yeah I guess we have to suck it up, because all these other things really do have to be worked out first". I may be terribly ill-informed, but is there a link to this "rational, sensible, progressive, inevitable plan"? So far all I've seen is CCP failing to address long-standing complaints about their game over the course of 4 years which, as you mention, is enough time for them to have completely re-written the game. There are words for people who have plenty of time to accomplish a goal but fail to do so: incompetent or lazy (or both). MDD You can assemble bits and pieces of it from what CCP's said, and it's largely "x needs to be fixed/done to do a proper fix of y, so first x, then y" and then ends with buildable stargates. I doubt they'll ever publish it though because that would hamper the ability to change it as necessary.
For example, deployables may seem like random garbage but they're the code-base on which replaced pos will be built on, so even though pos needs to be fixed deployables comes first: this is not because POS don't need a rework and can wait, it's because deployables are a necessary part of doing a pos fix right.
I believe that corp/alliance roles and structure is next on the revamping list after industry from some dev comments, sov is clearly on the list but it's a hard problem with so many things factoring into it so there's lots of things that go before it to "fix sov right"
None of this guarantees the fix will be a good one, but the philosophy appears to be that the effort has to be put into doing changes right. That's a commendable philosophy - as long as there's also some effort put into tweaking broken things as they exist now when that can be done with a reasonable amount of effort, even if that will later be thrown out in the new system. For example: take pos. There's clearly a need to rip out the whole structure and put in a new one. However, in the interim, there's some things that can be done like rebalancing their weapons systems. Missile batteries should lose their CPU, their damage should be increased to the point it's not a joke, that sort of thing. Potentially a new mod or two that actually threatens defanging supercarriers. All of that can (probably) be done by tweaking existing code and make the current system much better, even though it will be thrown out with POS2.0 Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.11 19:48:00 -
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Darin Vanar wrote:And how exactly is highsec supposed to organize? Are we a lobbying group?
why would someone who was completely unable to organize a group of like-minded people to do something so simple as to vote for them have any useful feedback in a massively multiplayer game Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7366
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Posted - 2014.05.12 02:39:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Mike Azariah wrote:Frying Doom wrote:
I personally saw no need to vote this year as the CSM seems more worried about access than with bringing up player concerns.
In spite of that, if you bring up a concern to me and it look solid I will kick it up the ladder, just the same. . . . so there :p m Really? And I suppose all the stuff I posted on your blog, Jester's blog, and the forums in general made it to CCP's eager ear? Like waiting on delivering half-baked this industrial debacle to TQ, in less than 4 weeks, with so many unanswered questions, instead of taking the summer to properly test it? The only idea that came before CCP via the CSM was my idea in F&I about the large clouds. And we have seen how much CCP has done with that idea, though it has met with uniform praise from PVE and PVP players alike. You know, if you have any real backbone, you, being the supposed high sec casual player champion, would start RIGHT NOW recruiting other high sec players to join the ballot, and form a coalition, just like all the null sec cartel propagandists so sarcastically suggest. That way, when it fails, you can point to it and say to all, it is truly impossible to do with high sec what the cartels and CCP say can be done. And before anyone says I should put my money where my mouth is, I have explained before that I will not put my name out there for real life harassment nor when my name is googled by future employers, I don't want it associated with a video game. And further, I am far too polarizing a figure, and would be VERY "unprofessional" with any dealings with the CSM cartel reps and their lackeys.
but since we, as the rmt cartels, control ccp and therefore have access to it anyway aren't you already risking that Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.12 14:10:00 -
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Interesting, will your CSM tag stay on posts made while you were a CSM and not on subsequent posts? It's still on the top post portrait but not this post. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7370
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Posted - 2014.05.12 16:50:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:This follows in the precedent set by Dolan. CSM is not to be a conduit of 'other information'. The minutes are not a sneak peek at what is coming next and a source for insider information. The election results are not a look at the CCP's current business success.
We represent you but we do not spy for you.
m Not to put too fine a point on it, but Dolan's philosophy lead to a 40% drop in turnout so I think it should be pretty high on the list of things to reconsider. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7384
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Posted - 2014.05.13 00:47:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: But they do not really communicate, we have not gotten to the point that for all intents and purposes they are now communicating with the representatives of less than 10% of their players. And why, because the CSM has proven its self to be a poor communicator of the actual players wishes and desires, as well as more often acting as a mouth piece for CCP and not the players it supposedly represents.
Hell look at Malcanis, he went into the CSM to get 0.0s problems fixed but nothing can be done because of the road map and this is what the 4th different road map so far and they only ever seem to do up a new one when it has been shown they are failing at introducing the last one.
There has been great dev interaction on all of these threads - there's been a ton of back and forth in the industry threads (which basically went into an understandable lull during fanfest), the isotope change got altered based on feedback within a day, and plenty more. A thread about new ships is going to take a little while for the really good feedback to start gelling and it's not at all surprising there's not more Rise posting yet - most of the thread is "neat! neat!". Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division. |
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