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Jantix Shafalcon
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Posted - 2006.05.26 03:09:00 -
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Yeah, I know "solo", "Caracal" and "pvp" don't go in the same sentence, but I've had a fair bit of success with mine and having been looking for a way to make it better.
I ran this through quickfit and it kinda looked like fun... (and not really expensive)
Highs:
5x Rocket Launchers w/ thorns (named is better)
Mids:
2x Multi Spec ECM
20km Scram
90% Web
Med Cap booster w/ 200's
Lows:
PDS
1600 Plate
Testing this in quickfit cap never dropped below 60% so you could stand to take a few hits from nos. Drone boats shouldn't be to much of a problem, the Rockets sould BBQ the drones fairly quickly
I think this would work fairly well 1v1 since you could most likely jam often enough to make up for the lack of a tank, fighting 2 or more people would lead to trouble though.
Didn't test the fitting or the cap since quickfit crashed, but was thinking about swaping out the PDS for a BCS.
You wouldn't get many kills with this if you came in over 10-15km from ur target and they didn't want to fight, but you can't win them all :P. Thoughts?
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korrey
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Posted - 2006.05.26 03:18:00 -
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Um..Even I think Caracals can be pretty fair solo PvP ships. But the fact that youve got a 1600mm plate on theres is awestriking.
Caracal is a shield tanker mostly. And its defenses are already paper thin so id try and put a Large Shield Extender II in the mid slot and a Med booster.
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.05.26 03:23:00 -
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This is a joke right?
Your using short range, frigate sized weapons on a cruiser and not using a MWD/AB on top of which you've added a heavy-ass plate to a shield tanking ship...
You said you've had success in this? Against what, an T1 frig?
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Jantix
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Posted - 2006.05.26 03:33:00 -
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What would you take out for the extender and booster?
I've fought a few fights trying to sheild tank it.. cap dosen't last anywhere near long enough thanks to nos + sheild booster.
With ECM's you have a decent chance of getting the nos and guns off of you, (if ur fighting another cruiser or smaller).
I fought 3 ruppys using the 2x ecm setup, got all 3 of them to 1/4 armour before each of them ran off thanks to me having an extender instead of web. Neither of them did anything more than scrath my sheild thanks to the ecms. Maybe I just got lucky, but they literally did almost no damage to me.
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Jantix
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Posted - 2006.05.26 03:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jantix on 26/05/2006 03:40:45
 Originally by: Phelan Boots
You said you've had success in this? Against what, an T1 frig?
Actually I didn't say I had success in it. I said it looked fun and was wondering if anybody had tried something like it before.
The setup I have used a bit looked like this:
High:
3x Heavy Launcher
2x Assult
Mid:
2x ECM
20km scram
Large Extender
Med Booster
Low:
PDU
Cap Power Relay
I've only had the chance to fight Rupture's 1v1 since I haven't been using it very long... Beat them all easily though, cept for the fact that I was dumb enough to not bring a web and they had MWD's.
Edit:
Woops.. posted with alt 
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.05.26 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jantix Shafalcon
...but I've had a fair bit of success with mine and having been looking for a way to make it better...
Actually, you did say you've had some success with it...
From what I've read the Caracal works best with a passive shield tank. Besides that the Cap Power Relay you have in there reduces the amount your shield booster recharges. With the setup I suggested and very good pasive tanking skills you get a max regen that is better than a small booster. Unfortunately the AB/MWD I mentioned didn't fit in Quickfit. So drop that and use both a webber and a Magnetic Shield Resistance Amplifier.
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Jantix Shafalcon
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Posted - 2006.05.26 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Phelan Boots
Actually, you did say you've had some success with it...
Originally by: Janitx Shafalcon
Yeah, I know "solo", "Caracal" and "pvp" don't go in the same sentence, but I've had a fair bit of success with mine and having been looking for a way to make it better.
I ran this through quickfit and it kinda looked like fun... (and not really expensive)
The word mine refers to Caracal NOT to the setup that I said I ran through quickfit and looked like fun. (Remember all those nasty sentence diagrams we had to do back in school? Its works kinda along those rules.)
The cap power relay was there cause the ecms were running my cap dry to fast and the booster was a cap booster.. I just typed it in wrong >_<.
From my limited experience it seems that ECM > Tank, am I wrong? And then in the rest of the mids you have the necessary web/scram with one open.
I was just thinking that taking rockets over heavys would give enough grid to fit the plate and add even more surviability in case the ecm's miss.
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.05.26 04:19:00 -
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SOOOOOOOO SOOOOOORRRRY, how was I to know what you meant? After all I thought you were using a Med Shield Booster.... /sarcasm
You are correct, as of right now ECM > Tank. Hell I was killing people in my Blackbird within 4 days on a trial account. But the Caracal is allready slow as molasses, plating it and pirating in it...well its like cutting off your leg and trying to run a 5k. The only way you would possibly catch anyone is if you asked nicely. I'm done trying to help you.
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Jantix Shafalcon
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Posted - 2006.05.26 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Phelan Boots
The only way you would possibly catch anyone is if you asked nicely.
You're absolutely right, good thing all the pirates I've run into have come right to me without me even having to ask!
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Holographic Entrypoint
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Posted - 2006.05.26 09:56:00 -
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I use
5 Heavy
1 Large Extender
1 Web
1 Scramble
1 Invul
1 Med Booster
1 PDU
1 CPR
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WOLFPACK10
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:03:00 -
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come on this is just puthetick for a kick as ship u whant to use this
hi
heavy missile lanchers X5 scorge heavey ( 25% damige boster )
mid
mid sheald boster/mid sheald exstenders x2 / emp sheald hareners
low
BSC x2
or
tipe d-reacer control
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Ryysa
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Posted - 2006.05.26 10:07:00 -
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this has to be the thread of the most noob pvp setups ever.
Ceptor trap:
5x assault launcher
3x ecm multi II, 20km scram, web
800mm plate, med rep II
Other than that, you are not going to do much solo ;)
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 26/05/2006 11:21:25
Heavy launchers
AB, disruptor, webber, 2x tracking disruptor.
2x BCU.
As ever T2/named where you can afford it, or to squeeze the fittings in. (T2 tracking disruptors are actually pretty cheap).
Don't fight missile ships, pop any drones first, and you're laughing.
(And unlike suggestions in this thread, _don't_ use multispec ECMs, you don't have the cap for it.)
Take a _full_ selection of missiles. You'll mostly be using scourge, for the damage bonus, but start off firing a volley of EM/therm/kin/explosive so you can pick up what's doing the most damage. If they're an armour tanker, you may want to swap in a few different colours when their shield goes down, since if they're hardening kin/expl their weakest is liable to be thermal or EM, which _may_ counteract the damage bonus from kinetic.
Your DPS isn't all _that_ hot, but it's not too sloppy either.
And don't forget your medium drone. Hammerheads do most damage, Infiltrators make a nice contrast to the 'armour piercing' kinetic damage, or just a target painting/webbing drone.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:19:00 -
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I think God just killed a kitten. I'm not sure exactly what for, but he can find plenty of reasons I think
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Shigsy mya
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shigsy mya on 26/05/2006 11:20:38
that ship would die within 30 seconds of my brutix, i know its a bc not a cruiser but that setup is awful.... it takes me about 30 seconds to warp with a 1600mm .... take the plate off and put somthing else on there like an overdrive or structure if u use close ranghe weapons, also if pirates come near u (as i am one i know this) it means they will dish out enough damage to waste u in about 3 vollys....
setup= crap dont use it
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:23:00 -
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5x heavys t2 with t2 ammo
lows: 2x bcuII
first option:
jamming: 3x ecmII, 20km scram, L extender
tanking: 2x L extender, 2x invul II, 20km scram
need to check how that fits though.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy mya
Edited by: Shigsy mya on 26/05/2006 11:20:38
that ship would die within 30 seconds of my brutix, i know its a bc not a cruiser but that setup is awful.... it takes me about 30 seconds to warp with a 1600mm .... take the plate off and put somthing else on there like an overdrive or structure if u use close ranghe weapons, also if pirates come near u (as i am one i know this) it means they will dish out enough damage to waste u in about 3 vollys....
setup= crap dont use it
Absolution died to my thron in < 30s. So your point exactly?
Also caracal warps way faster... i think i warp bs in like 12s.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.05.26 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Shigsy mya
Edited by: Shigsy mya on 26/05/2006 11:20:38
that ship would die within 30 seconds of my brutix, i know its a bc not a cruiser but that setup is awful.... it takes me about 30 seconds to warp with a 1600mm .... take the plate off and put somthing else on there like an overdrive or structure if u use close ranghe weapons, also if pirates come near u (as i am one i know this) it means they will dish out enough damage to waste u in about 3 vollys....
setup= crap dont use it
Absolution died to my thron in < 30s. So your point exactly?
Also caracal warps way faster... i think i warp bs in like 12s.
And I just blow away stuff in my titan.
What were we discussing again? Oh wait, PvP setups for caracals.
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