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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:36:00 -
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okay... so, CCP censors us from seeing words such as **** and **** due to the Teen rating on the game, yet the feel it's perfectly reasonable to endorse a promotion that encourages minors to sign-up to an online gambling site? Jesus christ :/
Who is this "Al G.Rhytym"? Who is "Think Star"? Why has this been given a sticky without any official word from CCP?
And just so you know, the EVE forums are completely public so everyone viewing can see the password.
 Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:54:00 -
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any chance someone could tell us wtf is actually going on?
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/05/2006 23:17:21
I was wondering if you could prahaps tell me a little about the history and reputation of 4kings.com, as Google has a grand total of 22 hits for "4kings.com", most of which seem to refer to the online gaming clan. Further-more, it doesn't seem able to find a single website that links to 4kings.com. For an online gambling site to have no online presence, you'll understand my suspicions.
Finally, I did a domain lookup on 4kings.com and it seems that the website is hosted in Iceland. CCP is also an Icelandic company. Any chance you could tell us if there is a relationship between 4kings.com and CCP, and how this promotion came to be?
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/05/2006 23:36:47
Originally by: librarat
Edited by: librarat on 26/05/2006 23:35:54
4Kings is one of the biggest multi gaming in clans in games such as CS 1.6 / CS:S / WC3 etc etc... Its not a prank if indeed it is really from 4Kings.
Big edit: I thought they were referring to the online gaming clan at http://www.four-kings.com/ however 4kings.com ... Im not at'all sure anymore, piggy backing such a big and well known clan...
my thoughts exactly, hence all the questions. google "4kings.com" and tell me what you find :)
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 26/05/2006 23:41:44
Originally by: kieron
The tournament is being set-up and advertised with the blessing of the Marketing Department. I have been assured that this tournament is legit.
when someone from the marketing department available next, could you please ask them to explain how a website with no internet presence has people winning 46,793 euros in 24 hours? don't forget to ask about the website domain being registered in iceland too.
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.27 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 27/05/2006 16:27:08
Edited by: Sarmaul on 27/05/2006 16:26:20
So, how come my posts regarding the morality and legality of a promotion associated with a teen-rated game which involves getting minors to download propriety software and gamble online were deleted?
I can fully understand removing my questions about the origin of 4kings.com as they have been answered by Keiron and other people, but the ethical points still stand. Either that, or stop censoring *****, ****, **** and all the other words designed to protect the teens playing this game.
As for preventing teens from signing up, the only verification performed involves asking for the age of the person. That's it. No credit card validation (which is generally recognised as an accepted method of authenticating adults), just a "what is your date of birth" box. There maybe more checks inside the propriety software, but there is no way in hell I'm installing that **** (oh no naughty word censor it) onto my PC.
Finally, as I stated in my posts that were deleted, anyone is free to join the promotion as the EVE-Online forums are public - you only need to be registered to post, not read.
Surely something as controversial as this should've been handled slightly better than with an unknown character with 2 previous posts to his name who got a sticky with no moderator or dev approval in the thread, has a noob character posting as a representative of 4kings, and only got a dev post when I drew Keiron to my concerns in another thread (concerns which were then promptly deleted)?
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.28 16:55:00 -
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so I take it that it's now forum policy to delete all posts that critisice this promotion?
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 29/05/2006 16:06:43
Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: "someone"
Originally by: Felix Cole
I do understand it was just a fun competition for most of our community and Im sorry if I have offended people, but I honestly think CCP needs to take even a small amount of responability in protecting there customers.
We are playing a game which promotes or allows: Market scams. Murder. Piracy. Slavery. Lotteries. Theft. Extortion.
We are playing a game which allows the trade of Slaves. Exotic Dancers. Drugs of many sorts. Spirits. Wine. Tobacco.
We are already able to gamble for isk in the IGB.
We pay to be exposed to these things.
Felix, you really need to get a grip.
QFT.
I wouldn't be surprised if Felix is in the group that think GTA players will end up in prison because of a computer game 
As Chris Rock once said - what ever happend to plain old CRAZY - now it's the music, movies and computer games' fault that ppl go crazy
Yet we're repeatedly told that we're not allowed to see words like ****, ****, ****er and so on because the game has a teen rating. I believe this wonderful quote from the south-park movie sums it up perfectly:
"Horrific, deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty woids."
And you have to love how the mods have been doing a good job of deleting almost every piece of critisim about the tournement in this thread. Felix is NOT the only person who has been bringing these issues up, it's just that the mods haven't gotten around to killing his posts.
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Drilla
Originally by: Sarmaul
...it's just that the mods haven't gotten around to killing his posts.
Which they should as all the people voicing concerns are either ilinformed or overreacting.
EOD.
if the moderators deleted all posts that were illinformed or overreacting, the forums would be almost empty 
Originally by: General Apocalypse
the game is very well balanced
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Think Star
CCP is not involved in this in any way, but have graciously allowed us to post information about this tournament here on the forums.
There was no money exchange between us and CCP.
Read the 1st thread or the thread in whole and you will get a full understanding of this promotion.
The promotion is for EVE-Online and Keiron has stated it went through the marketing department, and you will have needed their permission to run the tourney. Therefore, CCP are involved whether you paid them or not.
Originally by: General Apocalypse
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