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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.05.26 22:59:00 -
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The incompetence of CCP is incredible, since I started playing I had problens with the installer, random reboots, failures os many kinds, many times.
This last patch was impossible to install so I uninstalled the game and download the 3910 installer, 3 times in 3 different ways and tried more than 30 times to install the games. After all these attemps I and 3 reboots during instalation I LOST 1.5gb and now I am trying to recover with windows life savior tools.
CCP stupid software is destrying my windows, my computer, their incompetence is making me for the first time in my life quit a MMORPG against my will, there is no point to pay for a game which I cannot play. They are losing money from the may player who got the same problem as I do and they donŠt care. This lack of respect is offensive and after all using web communication the have the "balls" to say stupid things like "try again" or "download it again".
GOD, I TRIED EVERYTHING.
0.9 mb expeled me from EVE, destroyed my plan for a career inside the game. Destroyed my dreams to play lvl 3 and 4 mission, to drive a battleship. Made me waste my TIME and my money. 0.9mb got me really mad just because we are not from england so we cant release lawyer or commercial justice over they, so they dont care.
CCP is a god and we are nothing, and I have no choice but quit.
And do not come ask to me to give my iskŠs or items, I would IF I COULD PLAY THE GAME.
How can this possible? I played many many times, mmorpgs with installers even bigger that 600mb AND NEVER HAD THE PROBLEMS THAT I DO WITH EVE. This a problem with their software and some probabily conflicts with very specific computers.
Just to finish, I finished using windows tools and I LOST 1.5 GB WITH THE RANDOM reboots, any help to recover it will be welcome.
sorry for my angry and thanks for all.
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: 000Hunter000 on 26/05/2006 23:00:19
IBTL and can i have ur stuff?
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:01:00 -
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dude, *hands u a chill pill* 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:02:00 -
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i had no problems 
can i have your ISKies?
 Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Shodai
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:03:00 -
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QQ
Learn to use a computer next time.
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Leya Marcsson
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:04:00 -
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bye and thx for all the fish!
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Saelek
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:05:00 -
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Ouch, who dreams of lvl3s n 4s anyway....
Hope to see you someday in 0.0 having some multiplayer fun
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kadrush
Just to finish, I finished using windows tools and I LOST 1.5 GB WITH THE RANDOM reboots, any help to recover it will be welcome.
...what do you mean? IF you're saying what I think you're saying your hard drive is dead/dying.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:07:00 -
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hi guys \o/
Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |
Sicex
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:08:00 -
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Hi Berrik! :)
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DeadRow
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Edited by: 000Hunter000 on 26/05/2006 23:00:19
IBTL and can i have ur stuff?
Save some for me
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kadrush
The incompetence of CCP is incredible, since I started playing I had problens with the installer, random reboots, failures os many kinds, many times.
This last patch was impossible to install so I uninstalled the game and download the 3910 installer, 3 times in 3 different ways and tried more than 30 times to install the games. After all these attemps I and 3 reboots during instalation I LOST 1.5gb and now I am trying to recover with windows life savior tools.
CCP stupid software is destrying my windows, my computer, their incompetence is making me for the first time in my life quit a MMORPG against my will, there is no point to pay for a game which I cannot play. They are losing money from the may player who got the same problem as I do and they donŠt care. This lack of respect is offensive and after all using web communication the have the "balls" to say stupid things like "try again" or "download it again".
GOD, I TRIED EVERYTHING.
0.9 mb expeled me from EVE, destroyed my plan for a career inside the game. Destroyed my dreams to play lvl 3 and 4 mission, to drive a battleship. Made me waste my TIME and my money. 0.9mb got me really mad just because we are not from england so we cant release lawyer or commercial justice over they, so they dont care.
CCP is a god and we are nothing, and I have no choice but quit.
And do not come ask to me to give my iskŠs or items, I would IF I COULD PLAY THE GAME.
How can this possible? I played many many times, mmorpgs with installers even bigger that 600mb AND NEVER HAD THE PROBLEMS THAT I DO WITH EVE. This a problem with their software and some probabily conflicts with very specific computers.
Just to finish, I finished using windows tools and I LOST 1.5 GB WITH THE RANDOM reboots, any help to recover it will be welcome.
sorry for my angry and thanks for all.
2 things: maybe a corruption that was originated from your line, or HDD is breathing the final breath before it goes poof.
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:14:00 -
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ITBL and good luck, sounds like something seriously wrong is (about to) happen(ing) to your PC
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Andrew Gunn
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:17:00 -
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EVE is likely not at fault here, assuming this isn't a joke thread (there have been so many). Like a previous poster said the problem may be a failing hard drive.
Random crashes may also indicate that your motherboard has gone bad or is overheating. Open up your computer's case and look to see if any capacitors are bulging or leaking (very bad signs).
If you do not feel comfortable with diagnosing and fixing the computer yourself, I recommend taking it to the nearest computer repair shop. Best Buy, CompUSA, etc if you live in the US.
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kadrush on 26/05/2006 23:21:02
Some points,
Yeah i suspect that the problem was my fast internet so I download the game in a lan house with 8mb per second donwloaded copy the game to a cd and tried to install in my computer just to have the same error.
About the 1.5 gb, well was 2.5 gb and I found them lost inside of a temp folder, probabily the files got there during the installation reboots.
Anyway, I still cannot play game, I am waiting CCP to aswer my e-mail to see if they can help me.
And just aswering the question, no you guys cannot have my stuff.
Also if you guys check the complainings subforums will see many players having the exactly same problem as I do.
Also only installing EVE give me reboots problens, and my HD is fine, thank you.
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Banana Torres
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:18:00 -
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ffs, if a significant proportion of users were reporting this, I would be out the door with you. But in fact this Banana was impressed with the last patch. I had no problems installing it on my computer at home or my computer at work. With no reboots or bits of my HD going AWOL.
If I were you I would be checking my hw or looking for a virus.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:20:00 -
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PEBCAK
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Sakura Nihil
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:22:00 -
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breathe my pale friend 
IBTL
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Morrigan Starlover
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:23:00 -
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You are gonna get flamed by a a bunch of CCP fanbois with mob mentality. Don't feed them.
That sucks dude, eve is a pretty fun game. I'd cool off and see if theres anyway to get it working, its a good game.
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:31:00 -
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I know it is a good game, the best that I ever played, that the reason why I am angry, because i am bing forced to stop playing a game which a love.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kadrush
Also only installing EVE give me reboots problens, and my HD is fine, thank you.
Your posts do not contain enough useful content to figure out whats wrong in your configuration. For instance, computer specs, driver versions? Operating system? It makes your post appear to be more of a troll than a support request.
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Lasraik
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kadrush
I know it is a good game, the best that I ever played, that the reason why I am angry, because i am bing forced to stop playing a game which a love.
If it's the best game you've ever played why do you call CCP incompetent?
Sounds like it's something you're doing wrong or wrong with your computer. I and 99% of the playerbase had no problems with the update.
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Malakash
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Malakash on 27/05/2006 00:23:22
Originally by: Lasraik
Originally by: Kadrush
I know it is a good game, the best that I ever played, that the reason why I am angry, because i am bing forced to stop playing a game which a love.
If it's the best game you've ever played why do you call CCP incompetent?
Sounds like it's something you're doing wrong or wrong with your computer. I and 99% of the playerbase had no problems with the update.
the game is great, the software is a piece of garbage that I cant install
edit: ops i posted with my alt chat
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Chronus26
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil
breathe my pale friend
IBTL
What on earth does IBTL mean anyway?
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Chronus26
Originally by: Sakura Nihil
breathe my pale friend
IBTL
What on earth does IBTL mean anyway?
In Before The Lock
IBTL!
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:35:00 -
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PC Specs? pls
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:53:00 -
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Sounds like darwin was right
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Xhaxina
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Posted - 2006.05.27 00:59:00 -
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You have a bad Hard Drive. 
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kadrush on 27/05/2006 01:01:18
Ok, here go the specs
P4 2.4 ghz 20gb hd, now 5gb free
512mb ram
Gforce 4 64mb
windows XP
anything else?
a bad hard drive that causes problens only with EVE installer? dont think so
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Adam C
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:22:00 -
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I didnt even read past the 2nd line. it was enough for me to know. Its you're crummy computer.
Bye
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Evil RedEye
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:22:00 -
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Last time i heard of ANYTHING remotely like this was a mate of mine who couldnt install any updates for eve no matter how hard he tried. He always had to take his hdd out go to somones house and copy their eve folder across... months later the cause was found, corrupt ram. Im not saying this is the case here but yea, dont blame CCP for something that is more than likely hardware related
ps how did you loose 1.5gb which presumably isnt eve-related at all?
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2006.05.27 01:27:00 -
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These are possible hardware problems, all of which I have had:
Dirty/unreliable power to PC - causes random reboots.
Bad power supply, or not enough for the job - ditto.
Dying HDD - ditto.
EVE, like many other games heavy on 3D, stresses your system more than any business package I know of. Before you kick off against CCP, have your system checked out?
Incidentally, my dirty power issue was damn near impossible to find - had to take the socket off the wall, and found that some mains wires were loose in socket!
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Death Bliss
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:08:00 -
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your comp isnt good.
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R3dSh1ft
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:10:00 -
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First - Don't panic, and don't leave EVE yet!
1. Check your computer meets the minimum requirements
2. Flash the motherboard BIOS to the latest version from the manufacturer's website
3. Flash any other outdated BIOS for your peripherals (e.g. graphics card, optical drive etc)
4. Update windows to the latest version using windows update
5. Install the latest chipset drivers for your motherboard (normally available from Intel, VIA or Nvidia). If you have difficulty identifying the components of your motherboard a utility such as SiSoft Sandra or Everest would be a good place to start.
6. Install the latest graphics card driver, sound driver, human interface drivers, etc.
7. Make sure you have an up-to-date virus scanner, firewall and spyware scanner and scan all drives for problems.
8. Finally don't run unnecessary programs at windows startup (Start -> Run, type "msconfig" and click OK. click startup tab and uncheck anything that you don't need)
9. Restart and then try to install EVE
If you still have problems you may need to reinstall windows or check the health of your hardware.
Good Luck
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 27/05/2006 02:37:03
Originally by: Kadrush
I know it is a good game, the best that I ever played, that the reason why I am angry, because i am bing forced to stop playing a game which a love.
If you are in the USA, I would be willing to offer tech support over the phone and fix your issues...but i tihnk its hardware not software killing you...
honestly though I will bet hardware issues...
Sounds like a corrupt FAT table or massive errors on the drive...
I have seen this several times...low level Dos /chkdsk with proper switchs will be alot better then standard scan disk stuff....but you have to know DOS...
Blackhole Bob
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Jacobz
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Posted - 2006.05.27 03:00:00 -
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Hmmm as an experienced computer destroyer I can tell you your problems probably lies with your HD. Not in the sense that other suggested(not dying, but its still possible) but in the sense of a big fragmentation. Use a good defrag program like o&o software to defrag your HD. A baddly fragmented HD can cause hell, and a 20gb HD are particularly risky in this departement.
If installing Eve puts you over 90% usage on your HD windows might just crash because of pagefile issues. (Takes some HD space...)Thats also why maybe it only happens with Eve.(The downloaded file is small but eve takes around 1.1gb if I remember correctly)
Another possibility:
Windows corruption(you might have various eve entries in your registry, witch can totally bunker your OS.)
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2006.05.27 03:14:00 -
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So wait, 60K+ subscribers can play fine, YOU cant and its CCP's fault.
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JamesTalon
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Posted - 2006.05.27 03:45:00 -
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The reboots can be a large number of things, as you can see from the various posts. But man, a 20gig hard drive? You can get much larger hard drives cheap today, I would think of upgrading that.
But, as others have said, do the usual anti-virus scan, spyware, adware, defrag, etc. If that doesn't work, try another computer(or try this first) to see if your installer works. If it does, its obviously something on your computers end that needs fixing.
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franny
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Posted - 2006.05.27 09:49:00 -
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(assuming this is real)
yes, it is possible for a bad HD to fubar an installer
when mine went(patch we had a couple mths ago caught it), it was causing similar issues... if your trying to install on a bad sector, it will error(but I knew my drive was failing before hand, and was already shopping for a replacement)
also as stated, lack of HD space can cause problems too
heat could be causing the reboots even without something running, if your case/fans are clogged with dust, pc's heat up quick, and you'd be suprised how fast crap builds up inside a 'closed' case(my daughter's hits the thermal shutdown occasionally, but she stacks all kinds of crap around hers, so I have it set to shutdown at a low temp)
my 2 isks, ask your friends(assuming you didn't insult them away), if any of them are pc savy or if they know someone who is
have them poke it, prod it, and clean it out
and by clean, I mean run thru hardware and software for basicly every issue they can find... possibly down to format and fresh install of Windows with all current drivers/patches
baring ordering replacement parts
it only takes a day or 2 to strip a pc down, clean it, put it back together, and fresh install WinXP w/current drivers
hope that makes sense, after a couple weeks of total chaos I am bored into a coma at work and trying to stay awake
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Meiso
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Posted - 2006.05.27 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Napalm
Originally by: Meiso
Had to replace it FOUR TIMES, as my SATA ports seem to be failing one by one.
What mobo do you have?! Please list model number. 
Intel D925XCV
I can't guarantee that it IS the SATA ports, as there is always uncertainty with these things, but I CAN say that:
1) First HD failed after 9 months, got a new one.
2) 2nd HD failed after about 3 months, got a new one
3) 3rd HD failed after about 4 weeks, got a new one
4) 4th HD 'failed' within a fortnight. Switched to a different SATA port and HDTach reported average burst speed up from 1.6mb/s to 135mb/s. HD corrupted after a week. Tried new SATA cables, tried the original & second ports and no dice. Tried new cables on a third port and everything has been fine for two weeks now. PHEW! HAve since tested the other HDs and they seem borked.
It may also be my power supply as it seems like an otherwise good mobo; the electrics in my house are rubbish, but the comptuer IS connected via a surge protector thing... -shrug- I just think technology doesn't like me.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.05.27 10:06:00 -
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As others have stated before me, this sounds very much like some sort of hardware failure (or possibly OS troubles). Get a professional to look at it, since you are clearly out of your depth (the tone of your post suggests stronger than anything else that you probably shouldn't try to fix this yourself).
I'm disinclined to be helpful to you, because of your automatic assumption that this was CCPs fault. Then, you go on to insult them by posting this ranting whine on the forums (which is not going to solve your problem).
"This lack of respect is offensive..."
Haha.
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Delezar
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Posted - 2006.05.27 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
Get a professional to look at it, since you are clearly out of your depth (the tone of your post suggests stronger than anything else that you probably shouldn't try to fix this yourself).
I couldn't agree more: Reminds me a bit of a user calling me about a broken monitor and flames me like no tomorrow. When he finally came down a bit I asked him, to turn the monitor off. There was a short silence, a humble 'It works now.', then he hang up.
If you don't know exactly what is causing a problem, a lot of times it is user error.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.05.27 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Meiso
Originally by: Captain Napalm
Originally by: Meiso
Had to replace it FOUR TIMES, as my SATA ports seem to be failing one by one.
What mobo do you have?! Please list model number.
Intel D925XCV
I can't guarantee that it IS the SATA ports, as there is always uncertainty with these things, but I CAN say that:
1) First HD failed after 9 months, got a new one.
2) 2nd HD failed after about 3 months, got a new one
3) 3rd HD failed after about 4 weeks, got a new one
4) 4th HD 'failed' within a fortnight. Switched to a different SATA port and HDTach reported average burst speed up from 1.6mb/s to 135mb/s. HD corrupted after a week. Tried new SATA cables, tried the original & second ports and no dice. Tried new cables on a third port and everything has been fine for two weeks now. PHEW! HAve since tested the other HDs and they seem borked.
It may also be my power supply as it seems like an otherwise good mobo; the electrics in my house are rubbish, but the comptuer IS connected via a surge protector thing... -shrug- I just think technology doesn't like me.
well or you have a realy faulty mobo, or you had realy bad luck with the hdd's.
what were the brand of the hdd's btw?
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Meiso
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Posted - 2006.05.27 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
well or you have a realy faulty mobo, or you had realy bad luck with the hdd's.
what were the brand of the hdd's btw?
Hehe, yeah, true. They were\are Seagate and from what I gather, people tend to have a love\hate relationship with them. Replacing my mobo is on the list of things do whe n I have more spare time and cash. Anyway, I didn't intend to derail this thread away from the OP, so sorry about that!
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LukAsh
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Posted - 2006.05.27 10:57:00 -
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If the OP still reads this thread...
It looks actually more of faulty RAM issue than HDD being borked.
Check some other large file archives if they unpack properly (like Americas Army install for instance). If they don't, check which RAM has gone bonkers (don't use any diagnostic tools, just take out one after another and check the big archives again).
(If someone asks - I had same thing while ago, none of diagnostic progs showed faulty RAM)
Also next time plase stop acting like a whiny kid, whose little car just broke and has to blame someone for his bad luck.
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katz3
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Posted - 2006.05.27 11:25:00 -
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Check your RAM :)
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.05.27 12:31:00 -
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I few more points to help you guys to help me.
1-I found my 2.5 gb hidden in a temp file, I guess they went there during the reboots, acttualy I am sure.
2-50% of my error in the isntalation happened during the copy of resFACEtexture.stuff file in every copy that I got.
3-After a deep cleaning in my hd i Freed around 5gb (25%) memory
3.1- After that I got less error messages and more frozen and reboots.
3.2- Like 3900 client I have two choices keep trying, one time it is going to work, or try to install the client in another better computer and copy the files decompressed to a CD rom and mannualy copy to my computer.
The question is: I am supposed to really love EVE to try to install the game a 100 times or copy the game folder per folder from another computer.
Some other points.
1-Free space in HD helps, it is making a difference, now I have another errors.
2-Today I am going to remove the cover of my cpu to see if it is a heating problem, maybe I place a small fan nearby to help.
3-The game runs smoothly in my computer, I only got lag in very crowded systens, so it is strange the game runs good and the installer donŠt.
Thanks for your help guys, and sorry ccp for my bad humor but I guess you guys understand.
and finnally, no I am not in england
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Aleidus Lee
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Posted - 2006.05.27 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kadrush
Moved from EVE General Discussion to Known Issues and Workarounds - Jacques
0.9mb got me really mad just because we are not from england so we cant release lawyer or commercial justice over they, so they dont care.
What are u chattin' about?
Are people from the U.K. sueing CCP over the 3910 patch? ... lol
If I get free access to top soliciters 'cause I'm English? Then no ones told me this : )
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Hexman
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Posted - 2006.05.27 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hexman on 27/05/2006 15:50:38
Dude I feel for ya, I really do. I can't play EVE on my (almost) top-of-the-line desktop computer 'cause it crashes all the time. I have to play on a dinky ultra-portable laptop computer...
Anyway, dude your rig seems a bit old. When was the last time you did a fresh install of Windows? I do not think your problem is:
- RAM related
- Heating related
- Video drivers related
And you already said it's not HDD related, alhtough I'd check that again anyway.
The reason I don't think it's either RAM/heating/video related is because the installer isn't using ANY of those resource heavily. It's just basic decompression.
Most Windows installers use Window's libraries to decompress files. Maybe one of these libraries is corrupt, maybe you have a virus or some spy-ware/ad-aware. And even if you don't, Windows is a piece of ***p with self-destructive tendencies.
Try doing a fresh install of Windows. If nothing, it will help your computer's general performance...I know it's a drag, but it has to be done every 6-8 months with Windows.
Oh and don't listen to all the fanbois and their mostly imbecilic/apologetic responses. IMO, CCP doesn't do enough QA on the client side, not taking into account the thousands of different hardware combinations users may have. But that's just MY opinion.
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LukAsh
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Posted - 2006.05.27 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: LukAsh on 27/05/2006 21:31:46
Originally by: Hexman
The reason I don't think it's either RAM/heating/video related is because the installer isn't using ANY of those resource heavily. It's just basic decompression.
Lol mate, think again...
Decompression is always heavily RAM-dependand. Doesn't matter how strong decompression is it always goes through RAM.
Random CRC fails during install is a very strong indication that its RAM fault.
Kadrush if you have two RAM sticks in your PC take one out and see if it helps, if not swap them and check again. If you have only one borrow a RAM stick from a friend and swap it with yours to test it.
Don't reinstall Windows, don't download client again, its pointless.
Also if the client you downloaded installs properly on other PC you have a confirmation - 95% chance that your RAM stick is broken.
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Ranyb
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Posted - 2006.05.28 05:52:00 -
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alright...i have a computer taht was built from custom stack parts in 2003, and EVE works absolutely fine on it. Try checking whats up with your computer.
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Hexman
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Posted - 2006.05.28 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hexman on 28/05/2006 15:58:41
Originally by: LukAsh
Edited by: LukAsh on 27/05/2006 21:31:46
Originally by: Hexman
The reason I don't think it's either RAM/heating/video related is because the installer isn't using ANY of those resource heavily. It's just basic decompression.
Lol mate, think again...
Decompression is always heavily RAM-dependand. Doesn't matter how strong decompression is it always goes through RAM.
I stand by my theory. Compression usually is not CPU/RAM heavy. Not necessarily. Check your CPU and RAM usage when you're installing something..the only thing that's working is the hard disk. Besides, our friend-in-dispair stated that EVE runs fine, it's just the damn patch/install that fails terribly. Since EVE probably uses much more of his RAM than the installation program, I'd say his RAM is ok.
Windows, on the other hand, tends to cause these strange gremlin-like problems.
So to be on the safe side, run memtest (memtest) AND reinstall Windows. If you've never done it, it's still a good idea, regardles of your RAM's state.
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Rhaven
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Posted - 2006.05.29 00:32:00 -
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one other issue that I did have and found the main problem I had with crashies and reboots is when I have SB audigy installed. The drivers or hardware don't like EVE. If you have this you may want to take it out and try with onboard sound just remember to delete the sb drivers
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.05.29 08:07:00 -
[54]
I have a lot of drive letters (drive partitions, network disks etc.) and somewhy when I run EVE patch/installer from the "wrong" drive (I haven't yet figured the criteria of wrongness though) it tells me that it can't access some stuff (access denied or something). This usually goes away after moving the patch/installer to the different drive letter.. but it's annoying as hell. Dunno if the OP has the same problem though.
Oh and when it runs, it patches/installs successfully.
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Malakash
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Posted - 2006.05.31 20:23:00 -
[55]
After more than 30 attemps I finnaly installed the game 3910 version and the first thing that I saw when I logged in "Patch june 6". Oh damm, well I am going to buy more RAM memory and pray for a longer interval without patchs.
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Hexman
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Posted - 2006.06.01 01:16:00 -
[56]
How did you get the patch installed? Just tried and tried again until it worked?? I'm bloody curious.
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Malakash
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Posted - 2006.06.01 13:54:00 -
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Actually the patch didnŠt worked at all, I tried the client again and again until I give up, one day I was playing another game and I stoped to go to my school, my parents said that they were going to use the computer so I left it on, when I returned it was still on and I decided to give a last shoot and I installed the client sucessfull.
I think that maybe my ram memory have some kind of problem and leave the computer on, or use in another stuff for a long time have some kind of influence in the way tha my ram memory behavior.
With the client 3900 I had something similar. Can my idea be possible?
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Inugami
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Posted - 2006.06.01 14:37:00 -
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its easy to point at his computer. But there are tools out there that can eliminate his computer.
1) go get memtest86 or the windows version. It will test your ram and is the industry standard for testing ram. Many times if you go to a supplier and say memtest says this memory is bad they will exchange the ram no questions asked
2) eliminate your hard drive by finding out the brand name of your hard drive and going to the manufacturers webpage. All major brans carry their own diagnostic software that will test the drives for you and if they have smart tech on them the query is even faster.
3) check to see if your fans are working to eliminate overheating though I'd call this and extreme outside possibility for causing these issues.
Once you have done that you can safely eliminate your computer's hardware as the problem and look at your configuration to see what is causing the problems with CCP's patch and installer.
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Malakash
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Posted - 2006.06.01 18:13:00 -
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where can I get the windows versions for memtest?
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