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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
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Posted - 2014.05.11 12:33:00 -
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Does the CSM feel that there is a correlation between the low Voter Turnout for CSM9 and the late releases of both the CSM8 Summer and Winter Minutes ?
source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3870337#post3870337
Regards, a Freelancer
PS: does a(ny) CSM member feel that the current STV voting system compared to the older FPTP election process (the final count of #1 votes only) can be improved upon for non-block voters and perhaps how do you think it can be improved ?
Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation
DemSal Unlimited
1136
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Posted - 2014.05.11 21:04:00 -
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Freelancer117 wrote:Does the CSM feel that there is a correlation between the low Voter Turnout for CSM9 and the late releases of both the CSM8 Summer and Winter Minutes ? source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3870337#post3870337Regards, a Freelancer PS: does a(ny) CSM member feel that the current STV voting system compared to the older FPTP election process (the final count of #1 votes only) can be improved upon for non-block voters and perhaps how do you think it can be improved ?
As to the CSM, I cannot say what my fellow Councillors think.
Me? No.
I think it is more that we are becoming part of the background noise of Eve and unless there is a burning issue for us to fight for or against the CSM is quietly doing its work and not waving any banners. This results in lower and lower voter turnout.
I do wish to thank the Podcasts and Bloggers and folks on twitter who did help keep the election in the spotlight. Without them I honestly think the turnout could have been even worse than it was.
I like the STV system better because it does pass the enfranchisement on to the people whop do vote. You look at aver all numbers, I look at how those numbers were counted. Take the last election where it was FPTP (First past the post for those hof you who dislike acronyms) How many of the 'winning votes' actually were overkill and made no difference in the final results? If you subtract them from the election totals as 'not counting or being counted' what was their turnout then?
Single Transferable Vote demands more of the electorate, Yes, fine. But that is what it should do. Make you, the voter THINK, DECIDE. It may take some elections for the idea to take and it may need tweaking (not twerking) but I look forward to seeing a more informed group of voters as a result.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:39:00 -
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i'm still unhappy with publicisation of the csm, i don't think many people take time to look at the launcher for the little ad
i wonder if we can see more mentions of the csm in devblogs or 'feedback request' posts? indicating that the csm was consulted and maybe what kind of feedback the csm gave. i remember some but not many mentions in forum posts. or maybe my memory's terrible
on the other hand there should probably be more responsibility on the players to spread awareness of the csm than ccp :S
there was a thing a couple elections ago where a candidate used their client cache or something to send mass evemails during election time. the gamemasters ruled that it was allowable as long as it was for the csm and that no character was evemailed twice. at the end of this term, can the csm consider using the same method to send a non-partisan evemail to lots of people spreading awareness of the csm and with links to all the candidates' forum posts or blogs? the mail'd best be sent by a popular character not running for reelection though
it pissed a few people off but only the kind of people who were liable to be very angry anyway |
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
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Posted - 2014.05.12 11:19:00 -
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CCPgames response:
Freelancer117 wrote:
@ CCP Leeloo
Does CCPgames feel that there is a correlation between the low Voter Turnout for CSM9 and the late releases of both the CSM8 Summer and Winter Minutes ?
Regards, a Freelancer
CCP Leeloo wrote:I agree on the fact that the CSM Minutes report is not efficient in its current format and as been discussed during the Fanfest, we will review how, where and when we post MInutes.
However, I don't think that low turnout is related to either report itself, or when it is being posted. From my point of view, a lot of players simply are not aware of the CSM's existence. Another significant problem is that people don't feel that CSM is important in any way and this is related to the last but not least important issue - accountability. It is hard to tell whether a CSM member is doing his job well or not.
Everything stated above is critical and requires immediate review and this is something I will look into as the new CSM coordinator.
source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4581835#post4581835
Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
315
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Posted - 2014.05.19 23:48:00 -
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Half the players in EVE don't know what the CSM is.
"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.05.30 05:02:00 -
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I'm also going with a lot of players simply don;t care about the csm. Just like a lot of citizens in my home country (US) could care less about congress. Hence they don;t vote.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
15692
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Posted - 2014.05.30 05:22:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:I'm also going with a lot of players simply don;t care about the csm. Just like a lot of citizens in my home country (US) could care less about congress. Hence they don;t vote.
They don't care while the CSM does its job. They'd care pretty quick if it stopped.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!" |
Ray Kyonhe
Ray's Relentless Research
Special Circumstances Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.03 16:10:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:i'm still unhappy with publicisation of the csm, i don't think many people take time to look at the launcher for the little ad
i wonder if we can see more mentions of the csm in devblogs or 'feedback request' posts? indicating that the csm was consulted and maybe what kind of feedback the csm gave. i remember some but not many mentions in forum posts. or maybe my memory's terrible
Thats why I've contributed some time to write this piece linked in my signature. Though, judging by the amount of support it met it isn't so important of an issue at all.
Survey/voting system inbuilt to the game client:-álink |
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