What is the point of eve?

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

Looking at your killboard, you took 464m worth of mods through Niarja in a t1 hauler on Tuesday with only cargo mods fitted. Whilst the 'v0v it happens so move on' is a good attitude, learn from these mistakes so you don't get caught out again.

Many people enjoy the experience of learning from their mistakes and mastering a hostile environment so that they can thrive and succeed in it.

I don't know why you play.

not one person tossed out "hey you can join my corp and I will give you a hand"

Have you tried.. uh y'know.. asking for help directly or applying?

I havent invited you to my corp because we only hire people called McCandless

ftr that was a different event not the one I was talking about in my post, ya I just moving some stuff like 2 sectors didn't think I'd get attack I fly around there all the time with stuff like that never happened before

yes I have, but not maybe people want to help or the people that did offer help tried to scam me out of large amounts of ISK

yes I have, but not maybe people want to help or the people that did offer help tried to scam me out of large amounts of ISK

The point in eve is to ummmm... I don't really know its some make believe stuff pretty much.. there is no point unless you consider the CGI cutscenes we get once a year announcing a future.. that's the point of eve.. you pay to get blown up, grief'ed , ganked, and then supply goons with fun.... that is the point of eve.

then they have the nerve to say everyone has a chance.. yes! your 50 mil in sp stands a 1% chance of killing a 120 mil SP veteran in a one of one battle.. yes this is fair.. this is eve.... eve has a point.. to pay to play a game where you can sit in space cloaked until the next weather season.. they proclaim you have skill!.... yes its click fest ship do this and that.. but does the ship use rudders??

eve online is a sandbox game with no instruction until they finish the gate/door opening jove space.. then we'll have direction to follow.. until then.. pay your milk money over to the goons.. they need it.. cause without them there would be no eve online.. it would be a game full of internet spaceships.

The point of EVE is that, once enough tears have been harvested, the Dread Lord Cthulu will be awoken from his prison beneath CCP's headquarters.

Join a well known corp/alliance that isn't based in high sec, get into roams/ops/whatever, stop grinding missions and you will rekindle your love for EVE.

Are you daft?

50m sp vs 120m sp on frigates is a fair match. Hell, even on BSs. Learn the game before you speak.

You just went Grrr Goons hard kid.

then they have the nerve to say everyone has a chance.. yes! your 50 mil in sp stands a 1% chance of killing a 120 mil SP veteran in a one of one battle.. yes this is fair.

If it's a 1% chance, it's because you're pitting a two year old player against a four year old one, and because the former is being a bit stupid.

SP is no longer a factor at that point since both will effectively have the same.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

To waste precious time in your real life and regret it as you grow older and have alienated all of your actual friends and family.


Later realizing that you spent years addicted to remedial tasks that you cannot take with you, and have no net worth outside of this tiny sphere of whiny gamers. And barley even that TBH.



Winning?

It's point? At it's core:
Unicorns, Elves, Orcs, Gnomes, eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, and eXterminate.

.. and in the great cycle of mining: eXtract, eXtort, eXplode, and eXit.

4X \o/

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game?

Suicide ganking without repercussions does make this game a bit pointless.

If you die in hi-sec while engaged in criminal activity, it should cost you some skill points as well. Now THAT is a deterrent.

Concord also needs to act like the security force they are. Right now they have all the power of a Boy Scout troop.

In short, this game has always favored the griefer.

If you die in hi-sec while engaged in criminal activity, it should cost you some skill points as well. Now THAT is a deterrent.


In short, this game has always favored the griefer.

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

What is the point to Eve?

dude, philosophical questions about the meaning of EVE at this time of the day?
Do know about the meaning of life?
What comes first, if the chicken or the egg?
Why Wales is as such?
Or why german women should shave their legs but won't?
Or why a lot of crap tastes like chicken?

You do, then awesome, if not, shut up and harden the **** up.

Sooo....we are the new X-games?

Whatever **** happens so I moved on

Looking at your killboard, you took 464m worth of mods through Niarja in a t1 hauler on Tuesday with only cargo mods fitted. Whilst the 'v0v it happens so move on' is a good attitude, learn from these mistakes so you don't get caught out again.
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You really don't understand EVE ONLINE at all. (:

What is the point of eve?

Dat name o_O

Also, could you please explain what you think is broken about the mechanic. I'm serious.. not being facetious.

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CONCORD is certainly not a deterrent, because if the person on the end of the suicide gank is squishy you can be in, ganked and out in a minute.
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The easiest solution would be for the suicide ganker to lose skill points, or to have concord follow them everywhere and not allow them to dock.

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Didnt take it the wrong way, after all part of EVE is having open dialog with others. The reason in my opinion (and everyones entitled to an opinion despite if the other person thinks its right or wrong) is that there is no reprocussions (sorry if my spellings off its 5am) to the agressor. CONCORD is certainly not a deterrent, because if the person on the end of the suicide gank is squishy you can be in, ganked and out in a minute.

There are FOTM (flavour of the month builds) out there that can allow you to gank the other person before theyeve even kown whats hit them, allowed them to lock on and returrn fire. As non consensual PVP in high sec that doesnt seem right to me. In low sec or null sec then yes its fair game. But in high sec, there should be a way of making it a fair fight and allowing the person who gets ganked to defend themself.

The easiest solution would be for the suicide ganker to lose skill points, or to have concord follow them everywhere and not allow them to dock. Whilst it is fun for the perosn doing the ganking, the shock of being killed in less than 1 second could lead to people saying "f**k it i can be bothered with eve anymore"

Its a broken mechanic that needs a balance pass. If i had to say what broke it, the fact that you have the likes of the Tornado that were introduced into the game. Its a glass cannon but if that cannon kills you first, you dont even have time to return fire and break the glass. Hope that makes sense.

The immediate vulnerability when undocking is really at issue here. Since there is no way of telling what is going on outside a station, when you undock you are always taking a chance. Gankers have the advantage there. What more, I find it amusing that the station itself can not provide some kind of protection for a few seconds for its departing ships.

You people are dumb. You're invulnerable for something like 30 seconds after undocking unless you activate a module or give a navigational command (with the exception of stopping your ship).

Your experience might benefit a lot by joining a corp...

[quote=Vageena Clatoris]
The ganker has to get access to the wreck in order for his operation to be profitable at all. This either means teamwork, or complex logistics with re-docking and re-shipping to go get what's left floating.

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See, in the early days, game designers, being mostly nice, middle class brainy folks, couldn't conceive that, given the opportunity, people would find more fun in being little ***** than in exploring and interacting with a rich, virtual environment, in the company of others. There's an interview with Lord British somewhere, in which he talks about virtually meeting one of Ultima Online's early, notorious griefers, and asking him why he did it: the griefer's response was (IIRC) "because you let me."

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See, I don't really have experience with the ganking aspect of the game, but I always read, that with few exceptions, it's a team effort.
So .. Those gankers explore and interact with a rich, virtual environment, making plans and organize equipment for the tasks they choose to pursue, in the company of their friends, to blow up others.

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

And since when do wormholes have local chat?

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

Bottom line, when the unpleasant aspects of the game outweigh the parts that give someone pleasure, that person should, and in most cases, will quit Eve, or any game for that matter.

In no possible universe does it make any simulation-side sense whatsoever that a "state"-like (or multi-state sanctioned) organization that's prepared to blow up wrongdoers would leave the loot from wrecks blown up by said wrongdoers lying around to be hoovered up by said wrongdoers or their chums. From a simulation point of view, it's a silly mechanic. Either there's no CONCORD, no policing, and there's a free-for-all (as per null and low), or there's CONCORD, there's policing, there are relatively civilized areas, and "suicide ganking" couldn't possibly be a thing. Suicide, yes, but suicide and subsequent looting of the victim? Absurd.

CCP is about to get an object lesson in that over the coming months.
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What is the point of life?



Yes I am writing of Philosophy paper right now.

So why haven't you?

Could you send it to me when you're done? I can't figure out the purpose of life. Grow up, have children, continue your family. What's the point in it if you're going to die and nothing you did matters anymore, it's really annoying me because I can't figure out what the point in staying alive is.
Anyway.
@OP, I think you're unlucky. I joined a month or 2 ago and in that time I have yet to meet anyone while in a wh and I live in one half the time. Yes, this is an alt. I don't dscan and forget to cloak half the time.

Could you send it to me when you're done? I can't figure out the purpose of life. Grow up, have children, continue your family. What's the point in it if you're going to die and nothing you did matters anymore, it's really annoying me because I can't figure out what the point in staying alive is.
Anyway.
@OP, I think you're unlucky. I joined a month or 2 ago and in that time I have yet to meet anyone while in a wh and I live in one half the time. Yes, this is an alt. I don't dscan and forget to cloak half the time.

Partly because of the lore built into CONCORD and partly because the simulation-side is intentionally left as thin as possible.

For the same reason he hasn't gone on to play any of the dozens of (themepark) games that do things in a way he would actually seem to like: in those games he can't define himself as the plucky freedom fighter struggling against injustice and GoonGreed.

The irony is that if EVE ever became what he says he wants it to be, people like the Goons (at least some of them) would still play (like how some of them still play Star Trek Online even with it's heavy handed moderation and GMs) while he'd leave because it's "just not the game he fell in love with" lol.

What is the point of eve?

Yup, you keep on believing what you do, irrespective of any facts.
I run up against people like you quite a bit in real life.
BTW, how old is the earth?

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome

The point of EVE is to be in one of the largest alliances, then run around LOL ganking other players while figuring out how to exploit rules... and even get your guys elected to CSM so you can LOL trick CCP into implementing new features that you can LOL exploit.

lol bitter much, or spent too long listening to Dino's tinfoil speeches?

Bottom line, CCP refuses to release the data required to calculate the sub base.
No way that can be read as a good sign, by anyone rational.

Spikes. Motherf****** spikes. Scary-ass looking spikes on spaceships.

Bottom line, CCP refuses to release the data required to calculate the sub base.
No way that can be read as a good sign, by anyone rational.

Looks like your paradigm for what Eve should be like to create this Golden Age of a huge sub base is not working out quite as planned. But no worries, your friends on the CSM are making sure that CCP doubles down on this winning hand. I look forward to the next 12 months, when high sec PvE is molded in the image that you so desperately want.

What is the point of EVE?

designed by the Psychologists at CCP to see how far the Human Psyche can be pushed towards the generally accepted notion of "evil" based on extant internal "game" factors, inequity, lawlessness, lack of consequences in real life, etc etc.

You haven't the first concept of what evil is


Do you

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game?

24 years in government service.

I beg to differ.

Then you know that the most "evil" thing that anyone can do in a videogame is utterly trivial on any real scale of morality

I doubt you do if you use it so liberally

So what part of my original post screamed "this guy is serious"?, or were you just caught up on the word "evil" and thought you'd share your worldview with everyone?.

Ah so because you realise your post makes no real sense, its now just a funny joke post

I get it

haha is funny joke

We all friends here now

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game?

Winning me is a good point to play EVE!

Errr... I mean the tournament, of course!! *blushes*

I have played this game off and on since 2005.

Are you really asking this question now?

The obvious: EvE is a sociological experiment to see just how many people turn into complete sociopaths when given the screen of internet anonymity.

The less obvious: To study the feedback effect of how much of this online malignant behavior seeps back into their test subjects' psyches in real life as well.

lol good catch, the guy is actually saying "what is the point of the game I've played off and on for 9 years" lol.

I'm asking this as a serious question. I have played this game off and on since 2005. I have tired abit of everything but all that seems to happen to me anyhow is crap.

I will give 2 examples that happened to me this weekend alone.

was moving around 300mil worth of random items to sell and in a 0.8 sec system as I was leaving a station boom blown up nothing I could do and icing on the cake he pop'd my pod to so I lost around 1 bil ISK in total. Whatever **** happens so I moved on

I stop playing before the wormhole stuff got really interesting so I figured I'd take a look see what its like, get a cheap probe ship going found a wormhole go into it fly to an asteroid belt and BOOM jumped by like 50 guys the destroy my ship and then spent around 40 mins flying around my pod laughing at me in local chat. I didn't care much cause I was just playing an alt running missions and I'm use to that ****.

So I put up with the type of stuff all the time I always seem to get this short end of the stick, I've tried to get into corps but have never had luck, I tired PVP but it always seems people are in groups and all the stuff I read that your suppose to be able to go at solo never plays out. I do mission running on my main account but honestly that great very boring very fast

So I'm just wondering what really is the point of this game? so far all I've gotten out of it is I will put in hours of my free time make money just to loose a good chunk of it to some ******* or group of *******.

Regardless of how it sounds I do enjoy the game but I feel like I am missing a very large part of it, any pointers someone could give me would be most welcome