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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.16 20:25:00 -
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you will fear the might of my ~fail blaster platform~ |

Captain Megadeath
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.16 20:31:00 -
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So you STATE that no-one uses these ships because they "are not on your killboard".......

Try moving out of those few FW areas of Placid/Blackrise you stalk and hunt some real game and you might just get some..... lol  |

Xylem Viliana
Dust Bunnies Emergent Avionics
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:02:00 -
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I dont see many federation navy comets around |

Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:56:00 -
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Arty bellicose actually makes for a decent and extremely cheap L2 grinder.
The question really is though, does it matter those lower tier frigates and cruisers are never used past the initial week or two of a new character's life?
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Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
19
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:18:00 -
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Noooo! Don't take away my Bellicose I have one in my hanger for ship spinning and the odd trip out.
Hmm, my mining alt would shiver at the thought of losing the Scythe as this was the second rung in her mining ship progression and she still uses it for light PvE. It is actually quite an adaptable little ship. |

Boadicea Wales
THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:27:00 -
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One mans meat is another mans viagra. I agree with the OP to many ships in eve that are rearly used now so much so they can be labeld as useless.
I own a Navy Osprey the info claims it to be a fast ship well thats just a load of old tosh, I've seen faster Drakes. 
Just because you use a certain (rearly seen offten very cheap) ship as being rather disposable don't mean it has worth in general game play. All that means is you have found a way to exploit your pvp style by making it alot cheaper when in a fleet. The fact that you expose your fleet mates to more danger by using these oft pathetic cheap alternitives don't make that a good thing to do.
As I said I own a Cal Navy Osprey, but that don't mean I vaule it above a run of the mill Osprey for the the run of the mill shop bought Osprey has alot more value. So ya for me the Navy Osprey is a waste of time. The OP is right and his list has some merit to it. IMHO |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:31:00 -
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The Zephyr has one very important role:
Because the sleepers will not shoot it, it's a great platform for retrieve loot from sleeper kills and then looting your own wreck(s) if you over-estimated your chances for being able to complete that anomaly ;) We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |

rufeno
Imajica Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2011.11.17 14:53:00 -
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CCP has the exact stats about what ship is used or not.
so, if they already know, why don't they fix them?
the answer is simple: why remove something that doesn't change anything in the game...
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.11.17 14:56:00 -
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praznimrak wrote:Straigt on,for one motives or another....
Bellicose / no use
Armour tank, damper + fleet target painter + frigate killer. Just learn to use it properly. Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |

Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
1
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Posted - 2011.11.17 15:51:00 -
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Why phobos? It's good as any hic... I can't see less of them than others. It's just gallente that's why people don't use it.
Oneiros - can't agree here. It's almost as good as the guardian and you don't need that stupid cap chain to make it work. Really good for small gangs. And I've -never- lost one although I love to fly them once in a while.
Keres - quite funny on gate camps - if you speedtank with it and got the 3300 scan res it's awesome way of catching enemies passing threw the gate. And mind that 3300 scan res is acchievable without any RSB. I did lose a couple and I still think they are far better than interceptors for catching enemy ships on gates.
The rest - I can only really agree on the FW cruisers... I don't think I've ever seen one either pveing or pvping... There must be something terribly wrong with them. "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! |
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praznimrak
Level Up
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:02:00 -
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Dr Karsun wrote:Why phobos? It's good as any hic... I can't see less of them than others. It's just gallente that's why people don't use it.
Oneiros - can't agree here. It's almost as good as the guardian and you don't need that stupid cap chain to make it work. Really good for small gangs. And I've -never- lost one although I love to fly them once in a while.
Keres - quite funny on gate camps - if you speedtank with it and got the 3300 scan res it's awesome way of catching enemies passing threw the gate. And mind that 3300 scan res is acchievable without any RSB. I did lose a couple and I still think they are far better than interceptors for catching enemy ships on gates.
The rest - I can only really agree on the FW cruisers... I don't think I've ever seen one either pveing or pvping... There must be something terribly wrong with them.
You see the //almost as good// as some other ship point of view means it is not going to be used at all cose there is a better option and that the problems of most ships that are on list. And again you can use some of ships i did write about but general they fail in their original roles and that's why i do consider them broken ships. I am a poor forum writer in general but i see some of the ppl do share my point of view. Bring more please. Praz My youtube chanell: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveOnlineGameplay |

Opertone
Signal 7
10
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:06:00 -
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Here goes another Pro Caldari Whine!
Where is my DPS, i want hybrids, the ships are good looking, the idea is wonderful... 300 DPS? maybe 350 DPS after the patch? LOL, this is not the idea of a ship someone may want to fly.
CALDARI want HYBRID DPS, which they sadly can't have. More DPS to US. |

Ghoest
7
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:42:00 -
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Pointing out that no one is using various tier 1 frigs and cruisers is kind of ret arded.
Most of them are for noobs and production purposes - and thats good. Wherever You Went - Here You Are |

Lea Swiftfoot
Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance
8
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:13:00 -
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I CN HAZ SPELZOR PLOX!!!
Seriously, anyone else not completely revolted by this guy's lack of correct spelling. The way he types makes it sound like he is a 8 year old. If you haven't noticed, EVE's forums now come with a built in spellchecker. I think you should start using it. |

Pinaculus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:36:00 -
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Really liked the idea of a specialized gas-harvesting ship with lowish skill reqs. Might as well be the Procurer or the Covetor (whatever one nobody uses; don't remember). |

praznimrak
Level Up
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Posted - 2011.11.17 22:36:00 -
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Ghoest wrote:Pointing out that no one is using various tier 1 frigs and cruisers is kind of ret arded.
Most of them are for noobs and production purposes - and thats good.
Hi there. if you read description of those ships and bonusis they get you will find out that most of them are combat shipand t1 cruisers and t1 frigs are also viable options for pvp,
Rupture,torax,vexor,rifter and so on are all t1 hulls that flown well kill easily t2 hulls of same size. Actual rifter can kill a lot of t2 frigs. And for my gramma errors go Duck four self and stop boring me trolls
My youtube chanell: http://www.youtube.com/user/EveOnlineGameplay |
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