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Jin Jemai
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Posted - 2006.05.28 06:25:00 -
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Ok, I started running lvl 2 missions yesterday, and I've already done the Illegal Activity mission line 3 times, and my Gallente standing is going down fast. My question is, at what standing do I need to being to worry? At which point does it become a bad idea to travel through gallente space?
Also, is there a way to view the specific faction point changes, such as a list similar to security status gains/losses. And what would be the easiest way for me to balance Gallente faction standings while doing Caldari missions.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.28 07:18:00 -
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-2.0 and no agent of the faction offers you work.
-5.0 and the local security forces (not Concord) will hunt you. (Or not, depending on how broken the faction's security forces are that day.)
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Megadon
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Jin Jemai
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Posted - 2006.05.28 07:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Tachy
-2.0 and no agent of the faction offers you work.
-5.0 and the local security forces (not Concord) will hunt you. (Or not, depending on how broken the faction's security forces are that day.)
I assume that, at -2.0 and below, I would need to work with a faction that has missions that will also add to gallente standing to fix it?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Jemai
I assume that, at -2.0 and below, I would need to work with a faction that has missions that will also add to gallente standing to fix it?
Correct, assuming you already have Diplomacy and it's still bad. If you don't, training Diplomacy will make things an awful lot easier.
A lot of agent runners just turn down the anti-other-main-empire missions, to prevent this problem from occurring.
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Jin Jemai
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Jin Jemai
I assume that, at -2.0 and below, I would need to work with a faction that has missions that will also add to gallente standing to fix it?
Correct, assuming you already have Diplomacy and it's still bad. If you don't, training Diplomacy will make things an awful lot easier.
A lot of agent runners just turn down the anti-other-main-empire missions, to prevent this problem from occurring.
Wouldnt the standing loss from turning down missions create a similar problem? Or is it the lesser of two evils?
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Jemai
Wouldnt the standing loss from turning down missions create a similar problem? Or is it the lesser of two evils?
It could, however, you are allowed to turn down one mission every 4 hours without suffering a standing penalty. So, if you turn down Enemies Abound, and your agent offers you the same thing again, find something else to do for four hours before turning it down a second time.
The 4-hour rule is individual to each agent. That's why it's helpful to be working for multiple agents in the same, or nearby, stations.
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Jin Jemai
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Posted - 2006.05.28 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Jin Jemai
Wouldnt the standing loss from turning down missions create a similar problem? Or is it the lesser of two evils?
It could, however, you are allowed to turn down one mission every 4 hours without suffering a standing penalty. So, if you turn down Enemies Abound, and your agent offers you the same thing again, find something else to do for four hours before turning it down a second time.
The 4-hour rule is individual to each agent. That's why it's helpful to be working for multiple agents in the same, or nearby, stations.
Ahh, nice. Thanks for all the info Baldour :)
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Helene Troi
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Posted - 2006.05.28 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
-2.0 and no agent of the faction offers you work.
-5.0 and the local security forces (not Concord) will hunt you. (Or not, depending on how broken the faction's security forces are that day.)
Hmm...
I did not know this, but am not too concerned... best avoid Amarr space in the future, they do not like me!
Good info!
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.05.28 10:16:00 -
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It would be nice if you had kill rights on everyone who has -5 or lower standing with your race faction 
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Mikal Drey
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Posted - 2006.05.28 10:51:00 -
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hey hey
will ammatar mandate have seperate faction police to amarian. as i have -9 to amarr but only -3 to ammatar
and will amarr police in heim/gallente shoot me too ?
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.05.28 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey
hey hey
will ammatar mandate have seperate faction police to amarian. as i have -9 to amarr but only -3 to ammatar
and will amarr police in heim/gallente shoot me too ?
They will (unless broken once again) but you'll only encounter those ships as mission targets anyway.
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Megadon
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Avalloc
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:57:00 -
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Here is a question:
If you've got access to a level 2 agent, with a Navy group and have decent standing with that agent can you still use them if you toilet (-2.0) your standing with the Corporation eventually? Or would you be able to reurn to said agent and work on repairing your standing?
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Sable Moran
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Posted - 2006.06.09 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Jemai
Also, is there a way to view the specific faction point changes, such as a list similar to security status gains/losses.
Yes there is. Open your character sheet -> open 'Standings' page -> open 'Liked by' or 'Disliked by' tab ->right click any row -> select 'Show Transactions'.
Originally by: Jin Jemai
And what would be the easiest way for me to balance Gallente faction standings while doing Caldari missions.
Avoid killing Gallente faction ships and forget about doing important/storyline missions.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Avalloc
Here is a question:
If you've got access to a level 2 agent, with a Navy group and have decent standing with that agent can you still use them if you toilet (-2.0) your standing with the Corporation eventually?
No. If any of your standings (agent, corp, faction) drop below -2.00, you can't use the agent.
I only found this out recently myself.
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Tsanse Kinske
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Posted - 2006.06.09 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sable Moran
Originally by: Jin Jemai
Also, is there a way to view the specific faction point changes, such as a list similar to security status gains/losses.
Yes there is. Open your character sheet -> open 'Standings' page -> open 'Liked by' or 'Disliked by' tab ->right click any row -> select 'Show Transactions'.
Cool! Lot's of great stuff in this thread. 
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Venus Ra
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Posted - 2006.06.12 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sable Moran
Avoid killing Gallente faction ships and forget about doing important/storyline missions.
This may be a stupid question but how am I supposed to increase my Caldari faction so I can use better quality agents then? 
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.06.12 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Venus Ra
Originally by: Sable Moran
Avoid killing Gallente faction ships and forget about doing important/storyline missions.
This may be a stupid question but how am I supposed to increase my Caldari faction so I can use better quality agents then?
Do ten times more normal missions? I have 8.9 Caldari standings without doing any storyline (They didn't exist back in early Exodus to Empire-expansion)
Unnerf Amarr!
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.06.12 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
Originally by: Venus Ra
Originally by: Sable Moran
Avoid killing Gallente faction ships and forget about doing important/storyline missions.
This may be a stupid question but how am I supposed to increase my Caldari faction so I can use better quality agents then?
Do ten times more normal missions? I have 8.9 Caldari standings without doing any storyline (They didn't exist back in early Exodus to Empire-expansion)
given that normal missions do not provide a boost to faction standings then doing 10x more wont help you.
10 x 0 still equals 0.
the only way to gain faction standings is from storyline missions.
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.06.12 11:22:00 -
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Yep, storyline is the only way faction increases, to bad a multitude of things reduces it  .
Ive given up on caldari and amarr, ill just use an alt to buy stuff in jita if i cant find it in ours
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