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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.28 07:37:00 -
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Edited by: ArmageddonX on 28/05/2006 07:39:13
Simple Question
Does the skill "Scout Drone Operation" increase the range of my Heavy Attack Drones as well? The skill says it increases the range of scout drones but I couldn't find a skill that increased the range of Heavy Attack Drones so I am assuming this "Scout Drone Operation" skill increases the range for all drones. Am I correct or do I need to get a new skill to increase the range of my heavy attack drones?
Thanks Guys. 
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.05.28 07:54:00 -
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yes, it does. drone range is a character/ship based attribute, not drone controlled
what range (in Km) you can have drones attack at is:
20+(Level Scout Drones skill*5)+(Level EW Drone Interfacing Skill*3)+(# Drone Link Augmentors fitted*20)+(any applicable ship bonus)
iirc the ishtar has such a bonus....
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Sarleena
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Posted - 2006.05.28 14:59:00 -
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Yeah, what he said. And the same range is the maximum targeting range for your sentry drones as well. They won't fire on anything outside of that far from you.
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The Nova
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Posted - 2006.05.28 20:16:00 -
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So with skills alone my Ogres could go 60km with scout drone and electronic warfare drone?
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miro hirisko
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Posted - 2006.05.29 02:12:00 -
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yer that sounds about right, how ever just bear in mind ew drone skill is a rank 5 and will take a long while to train to lv5
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.29 07:57:00 -
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Yeah I know that. I have some implants though so it should only take around 3-5 days.
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Taketa De
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Posted - 2006.05.29 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Taketa De on 29/05/2006 16:18:04
 Originally by: ArmageddonX
Yeah I know that. I have some implants though so it should only take around 3-5 days.
I take about 19 days or so (with memory 26) for the last level of a rank 5 drone skill...
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Taketa De
Edited by: Taketa De on 29/05/2006 16:18:04
Originally by: ArmageddonX
Yeah I know that. I have some implants though so it should only take around 3-5 days.
I take about 19 days or so (with memory 26) for the last level of a rank 5 drone skill...
I just checked and it's going to take me 5 days to train it to lvl 5.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: ArmageddonX
Originally by: Taketa De
Edited by: Taketa De on 29/05/2006 16:18:04
Originally by: ArmageddonX
Yeah I know that. I have some implants though so it should only take around 3-5 days.
I take about 19 days or so (with memory 26) for the last level of a rank 5 drone skill...
I just checked and it's going to take me 5 days to train it to lvl 5.
you do realize we're talking about Drone Interfacing 5, or Heavy drones 5, not "drones" 5, right?
'cause I want to see a screenshot of thta, if you can do a rank 5 skill in 5 days, without it being mostly done already, that is.
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:35:00 -
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Drone Interfacing? No.. I thought U meant drones.
Can some1 give me a list of the drone skills I need train to use Heavy Drones to the best of their ability?
IE.
1. Drones
2. Scout Drone Operation
3. Heavy Drones
4. ETC
5. ETC
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: ArmageddonX
Drone Interfacing? No.. I thought U meant drones.
Can some1 give me a list of the drone skills I need train to use Heavy Drones to the best of their ability?
IE.
1. Drones
2. Scout Drone Operation
3. Heavy Drones
4. ETC
5. ETC
Drones
drone interfacing
scout drone operation
heavy drones
drone durability
drone navigation
drone sharpshooting probably wouldn't be bad
of course you'll need racial drone spec for Tech 2's
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.29 23:39:00 -
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Lol thank you very much.,.. but DAMN.... the more I play eve the more skills i find out i have to train lmao...
Thank you very much for the information.
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Taketa De
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Posted - 2006.05.30 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
drone navigation
Carefull with that skill, forum reports indicate that an old already fixed bug has cropped up again that will reduce the hit rate of orbiting drones if that skill is learned (or learned beyond a certain point) because it also increases orbiting speed.
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.30 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Taketa De
Originally by: Kel Shek
drone navigation
Carefull with that skill, forum reports indicate that an old already fixed bug has cropped up again that will reduce the hit rate of orbiting drones if that skill is learned (or learned beyond a certain point) because it also increases orbiting speed.
So Don't Train it?
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.30 04:02:00 -
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??????
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franny
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Posted - 2006.05.30 04:46:00 -
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for now, skip drone nav
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morli vanqos
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Posted - 2006.05.30 07:42:00 -
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I knew something was wrong, I KNEW it.. so this is what it is. I have noticed the same thing since I have trained drone nav.
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.05.30 09:43:00 -
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Ive got drone nav @4, my drones have no problem hitting any type of ship.
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.30 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lorette
Ive got drone nav @4, my drones have no problem hitting any type of ship.
OK... now IĈm REALLY confused... what the consensus... Train it? Or don't?
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Taketa De
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Posted - 2006.05.30 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: ArmageddonX
Originally by: Lorette
Ive got drone nav @4, my drones have no problem hitting any type of ship.
OK... now I’m REALLY confused... what the consensus... Train it? Or don't?
Right now, maybe there isn't any consensus 
I have it trained to 3 from when the skill came out and the bug wasn't known, however I won't train any more untill there is a consensus that the bug is fixed...
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franny
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Posted - 2006.05.31 03:47:00 -
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I have it at 3, again one of the people that trained it early, it's hard to tell if it's borking the drones tracking vs speed
i'll try to remember to test it with my alt sometime this week
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.05.31 06:39:00 -
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Its imposible to tell if it hurts it at all way to many factors come in. It really would only hurt targeting if the target ship is stationary...which almost never happens. When its moving a faster drone in some situations is better than a normal one.
Ofc this is all based on the fact that normal orbit speed is even 'broken' again, which is not even fact.
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Prescience
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Posted - 2006.05.31 19:50:00 -
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I read somewhere that the Drone Nav Bug only affected drones in MWD mode. Once they slow to 'normal' speed, they are alright.
WHO said EVE had to be FAIR??
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.06.01 00:32:00 -
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Well I'll train it up anyway.... seems as though even if there is a bug it's not a huge one. Also it seems that it's probably not a bug at all...
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Lorette
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Posted - 2006.06.01 05:24:00 -
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Id train it if it was me (and i have ) as ive said once before my drones usually spend more time in flight between targets than actively shooting them thus greater travelling speeds are great.
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Taketa De
Originally by: Kel Shek
drone navigation
Carefull with that skill, forum reports indicate that an old already fixed bug has cropped up again that will reduce the hit rate of orbiting drones if that skill is learned (or learned beyond a certain point) because it also increases orbiting speed.
I can vouch for this, Just pumped that up to lvl 4 and i have notived that a Webber is now REQUIRED for my drones to damage ships (even light scout drones on frigates miss now). I never knew why this was happening but i guess now i know, someone from ccp please fix this as i use drones quite heavily.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:54:00 -
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Trained it too 5 the first time it was reported to be fixed, don't have too many problems with my hammerheads, and they move around quick. So no regrets, bugfix would be nice though.
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.06.02 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Dalran
Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 01/06/2006 12:37:10
Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 01/06/2006 12:36:02
Originally by: Taketa De
Originally by: Kel Shek
drone navigation
Carefull with that skill, forum reports indicate that an old already fixed bug has cropped up again that will reduce the hit rate of orbiting drones if that skill is learned (or learned beyond a certain point) because it also increases orbiting speed.
I can vouch for this, Just pumped that up to lvl 4 and i have notived that a Webber is now REQUIRED for my drones to damage ships (even light scout drones on frigates miss now). I never knew why this was happening but i guess now i know, someone from ccp please fix this as i use drones quite heavily.
And lorette Have you tried using a Drone Navigation computer (takes up a mid slot). If your drones seem to be spending to much time flying from target to target try fitting one of these. If getting your drones there quicker does not help it is atleast good for a laugh or 2, your drones move so fast now they literally can go 40km in less than 5 seconds. It also only increases the MWD speed so your orbiting speed does not change.
Odd, the bug, if I remember correctly was that drones orbiting a WEBBED frigate too quickly will not be able to track properly with weapons. If you actually did not web it, then the drones followed it instead of orbitting it. Which resulting in no tracking issues.
No clear concensus it seems. I use exclusively medium Tech II drones and never web frigates. I have see no issues, my skill with drone navigation is IV.
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Relfstello
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Posted - 2006.06.02 19:26:00 -
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I use heavy drones all the time. They pop frigates really fast. I have drone nav 3. Am I missing something about using mediums only for frigates?
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