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FDIC Agent
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
62
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:28:00 -
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Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.
Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.
Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us? |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
595
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:35:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.
Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.
Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us? huge charge hold filled with cap charges and the mids with cap boosters.
I dont know about the rest but it sure is a funny thing. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
5672
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:35:00 -
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You're doing it wrong?
Is the Nereus the new Battle Badger? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1455

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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:39:00 -
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Nereus has a huge cargo bay, lots of slots, and sufficient offensive capabilities to take down frigates or unprepared bigger ships. Remember that ships never have one "set" role. The Nereus happens to be one of the few industrials capable of defending itself.
This is probably similar to what your Nereus friend is flying:
Quote:[Nereus, Murderer]
Damage Control II Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Hobgoblin II x3 Warrior II x3
If he has good skills, he will be able to take on a handful of frigates and win. If he has external help in the form of off-grid boosts, or a buddy standing by with a remote rep ship, he can take on even more. What can't he take on? A cruiser or two, especially if they have good skills. A battlecruiser. A couple assault frigates. Anything that kites. Anything that uses sheer alpha to get through his tank (a few Thrashers for example).
When someone is using a gimmicky tactic, don't run right at them. Think about what they're doing, what counters them, and make a plan. Set a trap. Outsmart them.
Also, moved to Ships & Modules to preempt the incoming relentless GD trolling. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13488
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:40:00 -
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This was CCP answer to the numerous Q-Ship threads.
Too bad more people don't use them this way.. but then again.. ::effort:: Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
141
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:44:00 -
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Marlona Sky has a series of of videos posted on YouTube that show how boss the Nerius is  |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18317
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Posted - 2014.05.13 18:55:00 -
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Confirming that Marlona like to embarrass people with her haulers.
What are we calling combat fit Nereus', apart from hilarious?
Disregard Monarchy, Acquire Chickens Never go full Ripard |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4888
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:09:00 -
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For years people asked in these forums "Give us Q ships!"
And CCP delivered.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
41
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:11:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.
Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.
Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?
It's still a hauler, it does however have 5 mids and 5 lows, a very decent allowance of powergrid for its size and a ton of CPU. In other words, don't fight it with frigates like you would any other hauler, that thing is a lot tougher than that.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
755
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:13:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us? CCP just listened to players. Or maybe I should say CCP Rise llistened to players ? Remove insurance. |
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FDIC Agent
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
62
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:27:00 -
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Next question from my friends. Do other players need permission to show someone in their combat videos? That Paradox one she didn't ask him about publishing it as it shows him in a bad way. Would this be considered harassment because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers? |

Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
228
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:34:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Next question from my friends. Do other players need permission to show someone in their combat videos? That Paradox one she didn't ask him about publishing it as it shows him in a bad way. Would this be considered harassment because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers?
Blink
Blink, blink, blink.
I'm not even sure if you're serious or not. Move along! |

Gregor Parud
489
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:44:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:For years people asked in these forums "Give us Q ships!"
And CCP delivered.
They're hardly Q ships if they're obvious.
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.13 19:57:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Next question from my friends. Do other players need permission to show someone in their combat videos? That Paradox one she didn't ask him about publishing it as it shows him in a bad way. Would this be considered harassment because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers? With regards to intellectual property, they have every right to post video of Eve gameplay, though from what I understand, CCP retains IP rights. This is even addressed in this policy doc: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/monetization-of-videos-policy/
From a harassment perspective, if you believe there is harassment with malicious intent going on beyond the general hostilities of Eve, please file a support ticket so a GM can look at it. Keep in mind that publicity is not inherently harassment, even if garners negative attention to some. ISD LackOfFaith Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums. |
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
5172
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Posted - 2014.05.13 20:24:00 -
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Wasn't me. Not really undocked being too busy with other stuff the last few weeks.
One thing to consider is the hauler's feelings. We are just trying to make our way when suddenly someone in a frigate comes right at us. I mean what is up with that? Then they proceed to extort us of round after round of antimatter. By the time we escape with our defend mail we arrive at our destination with less ammo and cap boosters to put in the market.
So please, think about our feelings for a change.  The Paradox |

Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken Sanguis Ignis Prosperitum
293
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Posted - 2014.05.13 20:51:00 -
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ISD LackOfFaith wrote:Nereus has a huge cargo bay, lots of slots, and sufficient offensive capabilities to take down frigates or unprepared bigger ships. Remember that ships never have one "set" role. The Nereus happens to be one of the few industrials capable of defending itself. This is probably similar to what your Nereus friend is flying: Quote:[Nereus, Murderer]
Damage Control II Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer Corpii C-Type Small Armor Repairer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Hobgoblin II x3 Warrior II x3 If he has good skills, he will be able to take on a handful of frigates and win. If he has external help in the form of off-grid boosts, or a buddy standing by with a remote rep ship, he can take on even more. What can't he take on? A cruiser or two, especially if they have good skills. A battlecruiser. A couple assault frigates. Anything that kites. Anything that uses sheer alpha to get through his tank (a few Thrashers for example). When someone is using a gimmicky tactic, don't run right at them. Think about what they're doing, what counters them, and make a plan. Set a trap. Outsmart them. Also, moved to Ships & Modules to preempt the incoming relentless GD trolling.
Also there was a sickening fit that a corpie flew, i was in a hurricane and couldn't break his *passive* tank!
sure his DPS was laughable and i was still in 80% shields of an armor tanked ship but he wasn't dying.
I don't have the actual fit handy but i think the theory was much like ye olde passive drake. SPR's, Extenders, Purgers, Point. That kinda stuff. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unread OATHS wants you. Come to the WH "Safety in eve is the greatest fallacy you will ever encounter. Once you accept this you will truely enjoy this game."
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1501
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Posted - 2014.05.13 20:57:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:For years people asked in these forums "Give us Q ships!"
And CCP delivered.
They're hardly Q ships if they're obvious. well, if we're going by the OP's post.... I think you're wrong in that statement
 [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Titan Andronicus
Rookie Mission Tax Haven
25
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Posted - 2014.05.13 21:04:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.
Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.
Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us?
Intelligence, and it's application. 30-day skill queue for a 30-day subscription! Many thanks |

Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
41
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Posted - 2014.05.13 21:31:00 -
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Jill Chastot wrote:
Also there was a sickening fit that a corpie flew, i was in a hurricane and couldn't break his *passive* tank!
sure his DPS was laughable and i was still in 80% shields of an armor tanked ship but he wasn't dying.
I don't have the actual fit handy but i think the theory was much like ye olde passive drake. SPR's, Extenders, Purgers, Point. That kinda stuff.
Just fitting it for pure passive tank you can get a Nereus up to 500-600 DPS passive tank, with 41k EHP! That's rather impressive for what's usually just a cardboard tube to hold some cargo in.  Insane, sure you're just a flying bucket of shield mods with a signature the size of a moon, but damn, that's a lot of tank for an industrial. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Mordus Angels
894
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Posted - 2014.05.13 23:24:00 -
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Overpowered hauler......
OMGLOL |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
849
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Posted - 2014.05.14 01:06:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Overpowered hauler......
OMGLOL I would hope these people are using alts to post. I wouldn't publicly admit to such failure  |

Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
713
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Posted - 2014.05.14 01:14:00 -
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Wow, some nullbears are crying that they can't kill a friggin hauler
now you know how it feels when we fight back, jagasses That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Mordus Angels
896
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Posted - 2014.05.14 02:40:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:Wow, some nullbears are crying that they can't kill a friggin hauler
now you know how it feels when we fight back, jagasses
Oddly enough I've taken down buffer fitted battleships with as few as 4 interceptors.
Someone is doing it very, very wrong. |

Perihelion Olenard
207
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Posted - 2014.05.14 04:55:00 -
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All ships in Eve have vulnerabilities. Exploit them. I wear my sunglasses at night. |

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
127
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Posted - 2014.05.14 05:50:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:... because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers?
Oh please your scared we are coming for you with our badgers? You'll be telling us next about the battle skiff thats station camping you.
Erotica 1: "I would create a massive pyramid scheme in Eve to show you what it is, but I'm an honest business person, so you'll just have to find education elsewhere. Start with the wiki link that was linked by a person who didn't even read what he linked." Theres a reason I play eve XD |

Valleria Darkmoon
Convicts and Savages Shadow Cartel
240
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Posted - 2014.05.14 07:17:00 -
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Tarojan wrote:FDIC Agent wrote:... because now others might go out of their way to attack him and my other friends with haulers? Oh please  your scared we are coming for you with our badgers? You'll be telling us next about the battle skiff thats station camping you. Have you looked at F&I?
Battle Skiff is definitely coming to a station near you. |

Froggy Storm
Paragon Trust The Bastion
227
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Posted - 2014.05.14 07:57:00 -
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Long live the bait skiff! |

Dato Koppla
Elite Guards Stealth Wear Inc.
546
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Posted - 2014.05.14 07:59:00 -
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I engaged a Nereus on an undock recently, I was in a Navy Harbinger and thought it was a free kill, but the guy shot back and I found that I was actually having trouble breaking his tank, I had to use Conflag and OH just to break his tank but he melted after that. Turns out it was a passive shield recharge tanked Nereus and I plugged it in EFT and it had almost 600dps tank lol. Once the new Skiff is released, I can't wait to try it out for a PvP trollfit. |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1075
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Posted - 2014.05.14 09:17:00 -
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We fought three of them spider tanking. Very tough. Very fun! Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

GsyBoy
Hooded Underworld Guys Northern Coalition.
10
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Posted - 2014.05.14 12:15:00 -
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Throughout history EVE....
That Mack with only one miner working (or none) in a belt. That Mach that is doubiously positioned between the station and your cyno. That mindless Myr or Domi that just jumps into your gate camp. That text in jita that tells you that they will double your ISK. That Venture that looks such a juicy target. That Azaru that has had your corpies ratting ship scammed in the belt for 40 mins and still hasn't killed him. That carrier that apears in sytem with your super that you ignore.
In a nutshell, if it smells, looks, feels and taste like faeces... ('tastes like', i dont know, just wanted another sense and can't hear it and isn't a dead person)
Just deal with it and allow out of the box thinking in this game. |
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
1439
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Posted - 2014.05.15 02:42:00 -
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You know nothing, you pack of John Snows. Shoot that which lieth before you and tackle that which runneth away - Ancient Minmatar proverb @_@ http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1503
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Posted - 2014.05.15 09:47:00 -
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GsyBoy wrote:Throughout history EVE....
That Mack with only one miner working (or none) in a belt. That Mach that is doubiously positioned between the station and your cyno. That mindless Myr or Domi that just jumps into your gate camp. That text in jita that tells you that they will double your ISK. That Venture that looks such a juicy target. That Azaru that has had your corpies ratting ship scammed in the belt for 40 mins and still hasn't killed him. That carrier that apears in sytem with your super that you ignore.
In a nutshell, if it smells, looks, feels and taste like faeces... ('tastes like', i dont know, just wanted another sense and can't hear it and isn't a dead person)
Just deal with it and allow out of the box thinking in this game. pretty much this.
The concept of "bait and switch" is an everyday occurrence in EVE, moreso in PVP. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1786
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:15:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote:Post from an alt for obvious reasons below.
Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers. Unless it was a programming mistake the haulers are not haulers. Something is not stirring the Kool-Aid about them. After losing a few interceptors we started losing attack frigates. Despite them being tech two focused damage, we are still losing to this Nereus ship.
Is there an exploit going on? Why is this hauler getting the best of us? This thread made me spill my coffee from laughter. |

Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
683
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Posted - 2014.05.15 20:55:00 -
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Hell, you beat me to it.
GÇ£I personally refuse to help AAA take space from itself so it can become an even shittier version of itselfGÇ¥
-Grath Telkin, 2014. |

Bronson Hughes
The KAOS Holdings Group
2
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:28:00 -
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FDIC Agent wrote: Over the past week my friends and I have been picked on by these haulers.
You made the ultimate mistake you can make in EvE.
You underestimated your opponent.
3x drones + neutron blaster + neut + huge supply of cap boosters + element of surprise = surprisingly effective combat platform.
Bring a bigger ship next time. Or stop mining into cans. They can't kill you in hisec if you don't aggress them first.
EDIT: Re-worded it. |
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