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Kenneth Endashi
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:20:00 -
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Is it because they're too difficult to accurately design?
I think I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson say binary systems are probably more common than single star systems (like our own solar system, for example). So it seems like, after ten years, CCP would have put them in by now. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:23:00 -
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I think it is more likely for planets to be in unary star systems, or for unary stars to have a better habitible zone.
I always assumed that the systems represented in EVE are not the only stars in this galaxy, rather they are the only stars that mankind has bothered putting gates to.
This means that the builders of the gates did not bother to go to systems that did not make sense to expand to, so many many systems were skipped if they were not needed for one purpose or another.
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Lieutenant Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:26:00 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Is it because they're too difficult to accurately design?
I think I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson say binary systems are probably more common than single star systems (like our own solar system, for example). So it seems like, after ten years, CCP would have put them in by now. Technically every star system in Eve is a binary system, according to lore the whole gate network relies upon them
the backstory wrote:Jump gates are built around artificial wormholes, created by exploiting gravitational resonances found in binary systems.
Section 3 covers of this page covers it.
Bizarrely enough the only visible binary systems I've come across in Eve have no gates, because they're wormholes which can contain Wolf Rayets, Magnetars, Red Giants and Pulsars in addition to the main star.
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Jur Tissant
Hemah Industries
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:38:00 -
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It does seem to be a major lore hole that gates can only be constructed in systems with multiple stars, but every system with a gate in it has one star. |
Orla- King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:22:00 -
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On a somewhat related note have ye seen the stars on sisi? |
Higgs Foton
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:25:00 -
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Oh.
I WANTZ BINARY SYSTEMS IN EVE
CCP make it so.
*Snip* Removed trolling part of the post. ISD Ezwal.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal. |
Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
Easily Excited
956
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:27:00 -
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They send out a massive ship to deploy a jump gate. Maybe the empires have found a way to move the wormhole with it?
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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:42:00 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Is it because they're too difficult to accurately design?
I think I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson say binary systems are probably more common than single star systems (like our own solar system, for example). So it seems like, after ten years, CCP would have put them in by now.
All in systems in EVE are binary star systems however the 2nd star's are all tiny and orbit thousands of AU outside of the solar system boundaries so they arent shown on your overview because there wouldnt be much of a point.
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Jur Tissant
Hemah Industries
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:44:00 -
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Joshua Foiritain wrote:
All in systems in EVE are binary star systems however the 2nd star's are all tiny and orbit thousands of AU outside of the solar system boundaries so they arent shown on your overview because there wouldnt be much of a point.
From that distance, the gravitational effects between the two stars would be less than those between the main star and, say, a gas planet orbiting it. |
Jade Blackwind
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:50:00 -
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They're all in wormhole space for some reason.
And there are pulsars, magnetars, black holes and whatnot, complete with not-so-random effects on player ship systems.
Also, as Stitcher once said, "Everytime we discuss physics in EVE devs kill an exotic dancer. Think of the dancers." |
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
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Posted - 2014.05.17 19:51:00 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Is it because they're too difficult to accurately design?
I think I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson say binary systems are probably more common than single star systems (like our own solar system, for example). So it seems like, after ten years, CCP would have put them in by now.
Every single system in EVE that's fitted with a Jump Gate is a Binary, every last one. They're generally not close binaries, but given the short distances in EVE's Globular Starcluster, that may not matter. Even at 0.5 LY distance a companion star would be rather tiny visually, so they don't stand out from the background.
Only W-space systems may not be Binaries, because there are no fixed gates in place. Though you do have the Stellar Phenomenon Binaries. |
Lothros Andastar
The Minutemen
The Bastion
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Posted - 2014.05.17 20:55:00 -
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IIRC New Eden has 2 warpable stars |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
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Posted - 2014.05.17 22:12:00 -
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Why is it that each time this crops up I have to quote this article
and this Hubble image of Sirius A and B ?
Also on related news scientists have found Sol's "twin" that is a star that is believed to be of a same composition and age (meaning it came from the same nebula) as our Sol.
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Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
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Posted - 2014.05.17 23:05:00 -
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Does the lore state jump gates must be built near binary stars? Perhaps a binary system need only be in between the gates in order to be exploited.
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
Looking For Combat And Industrial Pilots |
Mocam
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:31:00 -
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Binary stars probably wouldn't be so good unless we had system movement - planets moving, etc.
With respect to why not in known/connected systems? Habitability favors moving to the "better" areas first and binary/multiple star systems are not "premium" spots. So they'd start looking at the more habitable spots first.
As far as habitability of binary systems, it's all guess work but the assertion is roughly 1/3rd of all systems in the Milky Way are binary or multiple (there are systems with more than 2) but a much lower earth-like habitability chance - though above zero.
IMO - if they were to implement them, I'd say some new area (CCP did say they are looking at expanding the game again - "soon"). Less chance of being attractive for populating vs single star systems so a bit farther out/not currently attached. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:42:00 -
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Orla- King-Griffin wrote:On a somewhat related note have ye seen the stars on sisi?
I have.
I didn't really expect that they'd have such a significant impact on the feel of the game.
I can honestly say the changes are almost breathtaking.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Riyria Twinpeaks
Reasonable People
Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:49:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Orla- King-Griffin wrote:On a somewhat related note have ye seen the stars on sisi? I have. I didn't really expect that they'd have such a significant impact on the feel of the game. I can honestly say the changes are almost breathtaking.
Now that makes me curious~ |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
9906
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:53:00 -
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Go download the singularity client then if you haven't already and check them out for yourself.
The glow and dynamic lense flare effects create more of a pervasive feel within the game than static screenshots are able to convey.
"Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Arthul Omanid
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2014.05.18 05:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Orla- King-Griffin wrote:On a somewhat related note have ye seen the stars on sisi? I have. I didn't really expect that they'd have such a significant impact on the feel of the game. I can honestly say the changes are almost breathtaking.
What's happening with the stars? |
Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:48:00 -
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Arthul Omanid wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Orla- King-Griffin wrote:On a somewhat related note have ye seen the stars on sisi? I have. I didn't really expect that they'd have such a significant impact on the feel of the game. I can honestly say the changes are almost breathtaking. What's happening with the stars?
Well, it looks like they made the background stars more to scale (given the short distances between stars in EVEs Globular Starcluster), and the result is quite nice. Lots of larger stars in the background, varying spectral colours, the lot really. Rather good looking. |
Arthul Omanid
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:51:00 -
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Meiyang Lee wrote:Well, it looks like they made the background stars more to scale (given the short distances between stars in EVEs Globular Starcluster), and the result is quite nice. Lots of larger stars in the background, varying spectral colours, the lot really. Rather good looking.
Ooh, that sounds nice. I hope I don't have to upgrade my computer to enjoy it though. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.18 07:52:00 -
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I don't know how you managed to entirely miss the the visual effects for the star in your current system, which is what I was talking about.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4592255#post4592255
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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
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Posted - 2014.05.18 08:21:00 -
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Well, yes I did notice that too, the new stars in system look good, but for pure atmosphere, the background stars have more impact I feel. :) |
Arthul Omanid
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
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Posted - 2014.05.18 08:23:00 -
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Meiyang Lee wrote:Well, yes I did notice that too, the new stars in system look good, but for pure atmosphere, the background stars have more impact I feel. :)
I thought we were talking about the background stars. The main stars are nice. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2014.05.18 09:50:00 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:Is it because they're too difficult to accurately design?
I think I heard Neil DeGrasse Tyson say binary systems are probably more common than single star systems (like our own solar system, for example). So it seems like, after ten years, CCP would have put them in by now.
Look, I have to have to break this to you, but Eve Online is a computer game.
This ships you fly, warping, star-gates etc are not real, or based on real physics either.
This is not a signature. |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
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Posted - 2014.05.18 12:08:00 -
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Higgs Foton wrote:Oh.
I WANTZ BINARY SYSTEMS IN EVE
CCP make it so.
Congratulations!
Because of your whine, someone who was working on trying to fix or improve the game, has been pulled so they can draw you another shiny glowing ball on the screen.
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Erin Crawford
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Posted - 2014.05.18 12:13:00 -
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Binary systems, schminary systems!!! Whatevur!
I've already seen the new Supernova star systems: http://i.imgur.com/bX9k1Yn.jpg
Beautifully animated too btw.
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Meiyang Lee
Game Instrument Applications
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Posted - 2014.05.18 12:18:00 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:Binary systems, schminary systems!!! Whatevur! I've already seen the new Supernova star systems: http://i.imgur.com/bX9k1Yn.jpgBeautifully animated too btw.
 Damn, gorgeous indeed! And that giant ring cloud is animated too? |
Droodid
Antec Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.18 14:30:00 -
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Baneken wrote:Why is it that each time this crops up I have to quote this article and this Hubble image of Sirius A and B ? Also on related news scientists have found Sol's "twin" that is a star that is believed to be of a same composition and age (meaning it came from the same nebula) as our Sol.
I knew I ought to have avoided this thread. Every time it comes up, links like that are posted and I spend the next 3 hours jumping through wikipedia pages about stars, supernovas, black holes and stellar kinematics.
Thanks for the procrastination. |
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