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Gorion Wassenar	Posted - 2006.05.30 22:22:00 - [1] Originally by: patch notes The Hawk launcher rate of fire bonus has been changed to missile kinetic damage bonus.. Why? ------------------ CEO of TKI
biid	Posted - 2006.05.30 22:41:00 - [2] bc its better that way its not coming out yet, people asked for it, now its a more specialized ship that does more damage. it now has 4 missle launcher slots and 2 turrets for a total of 4. missles will go like 50-60km and rockets the favorite for the ship will go about 15km, with rockets it will be quite a nice shield ship i think ull be able to fit a med shield ext.
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.05.30 22:54:00 - [3] Originally by: biid bc its better that way its not coming out yet, people asked for it, now its a more specialized ship that does more damage. it now has 4 missle launcher slots and 2 turrets for a total of 4. missles will go like 50-60km and rockets the favorite for the ship will go about 15km, with rockets it will be quite a nice shield ship i think ull be able to fit a med shield ext. still, can you imagine a hawk with light precisions? Speed for what. that thing tanks like hell, and now will start to popping ships out of the sky like there's no tomorrow. ...I would prefer a 5th medslot instead of an high tho ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.05.30 22:56:00 - [4] Originally by: Grimpak ...I would prefer a 5th medslot instead of an high tho no chance ;) Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
boost lasers	Posted - 2006.05.30 23:02:00 - [5] Always something to whine about ____________________________________________________ __
4 LOM	Posted - 2006.05.31 04:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Gorion Wassenar Originally by: patch notes The Hawk launcher rate of fire bonus has been changed to missile kinetic damage bonus.. Why? Because a ROF bonus would seriously overpower this ship 6 ways from sunday. This will be better balance wise. I am caldari and i would prefer an ROF bonus instead of the damage beacuse it would give me a way overpowerd ship, but am still glad its this way because tehre is going to be enough whinning about it as it is. Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
Sparkis Beutch	Posted - 2006.05.31 04:44:00 - [7] Edited by: Sparkis Beutch on 31/05/2006 04:45:43 Hold it a sec - 4 launcher slots? Where do you see that? Only thing I see in upcoming patch notes is: "The Hawk launcher rate of fire bonus has been changed to missile kinetic damage bonus, and the hybrid optimal bonus has been changed to missile velocity bonus. It also has a higher power output and a new high power slot." Don't get me wrong - I'd love for this to happen as I'm pure caldari and have focused on missile skills (as well as trained up AF to lvl5 in anticipation of them adding 2 more launchers). You guys know somethin I don't?
Foulis	Posted - 2006.05.31 05:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Sparkis Beutch Edited by: Sparkis Beutch on 31/05/2006 04:45:43 Hold it a sec - 4 launcher slots? Where do you see that? Only thing I see in upcoming patch notes is: "The Hawk launcher rate of fire bonus has been changed to missile kinetic damage bonus, and the hybrid optimal bonus has been changed to missile velocity bonus. It also has a higher power output and a new high power slot." Don't get me wrong - I'd love for this to happen as I'm pure caldari and have focused on missile skills (as well as trained up AF to lvl5 in anticipation of them adding 2 more launchers). You guys know somethin I don't? Check the item database, check the sticky "Blasters, artillery and more". ---- Cake > Pie - Imaran Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
Audri Fisher	Posted - 2006.05.31 05:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Sparkis Beutch Edited by: Sparkis Beutch on 31/05/2006 04:45:43 Hold it a sec - 4 launcher slots? Where do you see that? Only thing I see in upcoming patch notes is: "The Hawk launcher rate of fire bonus has been changed to missile kinetic damage bonus, and the hybrid optimal bonus has been changed to missile velocity bonus. It also has a higher power output and a new high power slot." Don't get me wrong - I'd love for this to happen as I'm pure caldari and have focused on missile skills (as well as trained up AF to lvl5 in anticipation of them adding 2 more launchers). You guys know somethin I don't? WTH does it have more shields than a harpy on top of a shield boost bonus Not that I don't like the hawk getting some changes, but WTH are all caldari misslebpats > caldari gunboats, even though they are all higher teir than the missle boats?
4 LOM	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Audri Fisher WTH does it have more shields than a harpy on top of a shield boost bonus Not that I don't like the hawk getting some changes, but WTH are all caldari misslebpats > caldari gunboats, even though they are all higher teir than the missle boats? We will have to see when it is realeased. I am at work right now and dont feel like checking but teh hawk is slower and has a bigger sigradius then the harpy correct? that means alot as well. But yes i agree the new hawk might be a tad bit overpowerd with a sheild boosting bonus still on it, we will have to wait and see. I know i am planing to *** out the precision light missiles and blow everything to hell and back. Originally by:** Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:27:00 - [11] Friend of Interstellar Capital Ship Consortium
4 LOM	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:31:00 - [12] Bob, you do realize this thread is about the upcoming changes to the hawk right? But ummm thanks for posting its current stats, those are very nice pictures, pretty colours (ya its colours, Up in igloo land we spell things differently) Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
Bob Niac	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:41:00 - [13] Edited by: Bob Niac on 31/05/2006 07:42:47 changes are now live on test... or not lol Friend of Interstellar Capital Ship Consortium
SpaceDrake Taleweaver	Posted - 2006.05.31 07:49:00 - [14] Originally by: 4 LOM Because a ROF bonus would seriously overpower this ship 6 ways from sunday. This will be better balance wise. Essentially. Racial damage types are not a bad thing. --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?... Player of the character "Amarii Oulasangeri".
IamBen	Posted - 2006.05.31 09:34:00 - [15] What made the hawk good was its ability to pick damage type. Now they have made into a slow moving crow. Thats really dull i dont understand this move. Why would anyone fly this over a crow?
Cade Morrigan	Posted - 2006.05.31 11:51:00 - [16] Originally by: IamBen What made the hawk good was its ability to pick damage type. Now they have made into a slow moving crow. Thats really dull i dont understand this move. Why would anyone fly this over a crow? how does adding more missile slots reduce the hawk's ability to pick damage type? slow moving crow that can tank like crazy... Seeing the price of the hawk double or triple in a matter of hours after the 4-launcher change was announced weeks back seems to indicate it will be a popular refit. -= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
FFGR	Posted - 2006.05.31 11:59:00 - [17] On another point of the hawk, can we have the 5% shield boost ammount changed to a 7.5% ? /me ducks _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Xianthar	Posted - 2006.05.31 18:34:00 - [18] Originally by: IamBen What made the hawk good was its ability to pick damage type. Now they have made into a slow moving crow. Thats really dull i dont understand this move. Why would anyone fly this over a crow? huh? why are you comparing inty to AF they exist for completely different purposes. hawk will be mean ship now, maybe too mean tbh, in pvp its gonna be a superb small ship killer and in pve i would think it would destroy lvl 3's like no other ship, especially being able to pick dmg type. -xian
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.01 04:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Seeing the price of the hawk double or triple in a matter of hours after the 4-launcher change was announced weeks back seems to indicate it will be a popular refit. Nah it just showed a pretty useless AF getting made useful, and it now has a reason to be bought. I'd have no problem with the Hawk ending up being 5% kinetic, and 5% all types for dmg, it would pretty much be the same as 10%kin, 5% all others.

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