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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1274
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:00:00 -
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I trained Min Frig V and Gal Frig V...
CCP nerfs the Dramiel.... INTO THE GROUND.
I trained Battlecruiser V and Command Ships V...
CCP nerfs Heavy Missile Nighthawk.... INTO THE GROUND.
I trained Gallente Battleship V and Marauders V......
CCP names an expansion after my new ship, and no nerfs in sight...
THIS IS CRAZY UPSIDE DOWN LAND?!?!?!
One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Markus45
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:10:00 -
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What is the intention - motivation even - in making this post? |
Grunanca
Doughboys
Shadow Cartel
229
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:20:00 -
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Train amarr cruiser 5 and start flying absolution then... I started as minmatar when gallente was the best. Then I was lucky minmatar became best. then came the nano nerf and amarr was best. EVE always changes, get used to it. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1051
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:28:00 -
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lol, looks like you were to late for every FOTM... 
Look at the bright side, once you've trained for everythinf it won't matter what CCP nerfes next. 
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
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CCP Falcon
7147
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:33:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:THIS IS CRAZY UPSIDE DOWN LAND?!?!?!
(+¢ souo+¦-P -Äo++u¦¥ no-Ä ¦¥do+Ñ ¦¥-ì
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Manager -á || -á EVE Illuminati
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
626
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Posted - 2014.05.18 18:36:00 -
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I trained for broken things. Those things got fixed in favor of someone else.
ME MAD
And thats not a nice thing to call Australia. It's "rightside up normal-land" to them |
Orla- King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
39
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:18:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:THIS IS CRAZY UPSIDE DOWN LAND?!?!?! (+¢ souo+¦-P -Äo++u¦¥ no-Ä ¦¥do+Ñ ¦¥-ì
 That hurts my brain but it is looking good yes.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3440
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:28:00 -
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Train more Gallente, please.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Arronicus
X-Prot
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
975
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:30:00 -
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CCP doesn't need to nerf the kronos, it's already a huge under-performer.
1) Terrible range on the weapon system it was designed for, blasters. in bastion, they only do ~475 dps to the farther sanctum spawns, and can't reach almost any spawns with short range ammo
2) Weak capacitor. Kronos has the greatest difficulty running its guns and supporting a large armor repairer, where the other 3 marauders can do so (shields where appropriate) more easily.
3) Low mobility. Gallente blaster battleships like the megathron and vindicator both use decent mobility to allow their short range high tracking weapon systems to get in close, and dish out their damage potential, whereas other race ships have a much longer range, and don't need to get as close. The kronos however, cannot move around while in bastion, forcing it to play a game of stop and go, and leaving it additionally vulnerable in situations like wormhole space.
As far as marauders go,
Angel space: Vargur is top dog, Golem is decent
Sansha/Blood raiders: Paladin is top dog, by a long shot
Serpentis space: Weak to thermal, the Paladin still performs admirably
Gurista space: Golem comes out on top with full kinetic damage and 100% damage application at 70km or 10km.
Drone space: Paladin is top dog
Incursions: Shiny paladin fleet beats everything for vanguards
Solo C4 wormholes: Again, paladins are a beast.
Why does the Paladin so frequently outperform all the others? Because it is the stark opposite of the Kronos with its weapon system. It has very long optimal range that can be quickly switched between medium and long range, with sufficient tracking to still hit npc frigates before they get under the guns. The golem and vargur are decent, but the kronos is just bad. |
Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes
The Volition Cult
632
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:47:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:
I trained Battlecruiser V and Command Ships V...
CCP nerfs Heavy Missile Nighthawk.... INTO THE GROUND.
Shame that the Nighthawk is the only command ship in the game  |
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
1102
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:53:00 -
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Even for a Tom Gerard post, this is marginally 1/10.
Try harder, we know you can do better.
CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
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Valterra Craven
232
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Posted - 2014.05.18 19:58:00 -
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Someone needs to an EVE themed music video to this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
204
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:06:00 -
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I trained all ships and weapons. Whatchu gonna do now CCP?! You got nuthin on ME! You can't do nuthin! Best recognize... |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:19:00 -
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Melodramatic Crap....
Take a pill whiner... |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar
Noir. Mercenary Group
650
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:32:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:CCP doesn't need to nerf the kronos, it's already a huge under-performer.
1) Terrible range on the weapon system it was designed for, blasters. in bastion, they only do ~475 dps to the farther sanctum spawns, and can't reach almost any spawns with short range ammo
2) Weak capacitor. Kronos has the greatest difficulty running its guns and supporting a large armor repairer, where the other 3 marauders can do so (shields where appropriate) more easily.
3) Low mobility. Gallente blaster battleships like the megathron and vindicator both use decent mobility to allow their short range high tracking weapon systems to get in close, and dish out their damage potential, whereas other race ships have a much longer range, and don't need to get as close. The kronos however, cannot move around while in bastion, forcing it to play a game of stop and go, and leaving it additionally vulnerable in situations like wormhole space.
As far as marauders go,
Angel space: Vargur is top dog, Golem is decent
Sansha/Blood raiders: Paladin is top dog, by a long shot
Serpentis space: Weak to thermal, the Paladin still performs admirably
Gurista space: Golem comes out on top with full kinetic damage and 100% damage application at 70km or 10km.
Drone space: Paladin is top dog
Incursions: Shiny paladin fleet beats everything for vanguards
Solo C4 wormholes: Again, paladins are a beast.
Why does the Paladin so frequently outperform all the others? Because it is the stark opposite of the Kronos with its weapon system. It has very long optimal range that can be quickly switched between medium and long range, with sufficient tracking to still hit npc frigates before they get under the guns. The golem and vargur are decent, but the kronos is just bad.
But to solo C3's there is no better ship in the game than the kronos.
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Marsha Mallow
587
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:46:00 -
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Tom, if you could please stop training (for the wider community) we can all enjoy a nerf free existence. Tia.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
11645
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Posted - 2014.05.18 20:55:00 -
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Pff, like they would nerf one of my beloved Megathrons.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises
Ad-Astra
303
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:09:00 -
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I mean, I sort of get the Dramiel (though it was kind of OP) but the Nighthawk got pretty much nothing but buffs, unless you mean the Heavy Missile nerf, in which case how did you not see that coming a mile away?
Also please un-duct-tape yourself from the ceiling. KThx. |
Doreen Kaundur
146
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:14:00 -
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I trained Shuttle Pilot V.
Im the best shuttle pilot in all new eden.
I produce spectacular explosions when ganked. 
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1188
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:26:00 -
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Markus45 wrote:What is the intention - motivation even - in making this post?
Tom is a professional troll, you need more motivation?
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
Easily Excited
960
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:32:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:CCP doesn't need to nerf the kronos, it's already a huge under-performer.
1) Terrible range on the weapon system it was designed for, blasters. in bastion, they only do ~475 dps to the farther sanctum spawns, and can't reach almost any spawns with short range ammo
2) Weak capacitor. Kronos has the greatest difficulty running its guns and supporting a large armor repairer, where the other 3 marauders can do so (shields where appropriate) more easily.
3) Low mobility. Gallente blaster battleships like the megathron and vindicator both use decent mobility to allow their short range high tracking weapon systems to get in close, and dish out their damage potential, whereas other race ships have a much longer range, and don't need to get as close. The kronos however, cannot move around while in bastion, forcing it to play a game of stop and go, and leaving it additionally vulnerable in situations like wormhole space.
As far as marauders go,
Angel space: Vargur is top dog, Golem is decent
Sansha/Blood raiders: Paladin is top dog, by a long shot
Serpentis space: Weak to thermal, the Paladin still performs admirably
Gurista space: Golem comes out on top with full kinetic damage and 100% damage application at 70km or 10km.
Drone space: Paladin is top dog
Incursions: Shiny paladin fleet beats everything for vanguards
Solo C4 wormholes: Again, paladins are a beast.
Why does the Paladin so frequently outperform all the others? Because it is the stark opposite of the Kronos with its weapon system. It has very long optimal range that can be quickly switched between medium and long range, with sufficient tracking to still hit npc frigates before they get under the guns. The golem and vargur are decent, but the kronos is just bad.
Kronos is for PvP. Ever seen a Kronos and on-grid-booster Eos crash a gatecamp together? It's scary.
"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Liam Inkuras
Mafia Redux
1070
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Posted - 2014.05.18 21:58:00 -
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Arronicus wrote:stuff about PVE
Marauders have PvP applications too you know, and the Kronos is one of the best 
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Varesk
Carried Hate
554
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:06:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:THIS IS CRAZY UPSIDE DOWN LAND?!?!?! (+¢ souo+¦-P -Äo++u¦¥ no-Ä ¦¥do+Ñ ¦¥-ì
Actually, I will enjoy the release after Kronos, the one with all the stuff that Kronos was suppose to have in it.
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
8303
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Posted - 2014.05.18 22:33:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:THIS IS CRAZY UPSIDE DOWN LAND?!?!?! (+¢ souo+¦-P -Äo++u¦¥ no-Ä ¦¥do+Ñ ¦¥-ì
as a wannabee ISD i have to say this needs to be moved to the Russian forums. |
Alexstrazaas
Perkone
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2014.05.18 23:03:00 -
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Tom Gerard wrote:
I trained Battlecruiser V and Command Ships V...
CCP nerfs Heavy Missile Nighthawk.... INTO THE GROUND.
this is why i fly a ferox and working on a vulture! *still about 60 days  *
*used Caldari hybreds since beginning and got lvl 4 in all sizes for spez. rails/blasters*
 ALL HAIL CALDARI BLASTER BOATS AND RAIL BOATS! |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal
Terran Commonwealth
264
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Posted - 2014.05.18 23:24:00 -
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What are training for next? I will avoid that like the plague. |
Arronicus
X-Prot
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
977
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Posted - 2014.05.18 23:25:00 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Arronicus wrote:stuff about PVE Marauders have PvP applications too you know, and the Kronos is one of the best
Lugia3 wrote:
Kronos is for PvP. Ever seen a Kronos and on-grid-booster Eos crash a gatecamp together? It's scary.
Allow me to rephrase.
Kronos stuff about pve: Bad.
Haven't tried one in pvp yet. Paladins seem to get a lot of love there, with the ridiculous ranges they can throw out. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
771
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Posted - 2014.05.19 00:12:00 -
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meh
CCP make better ==> people train up ===> popular ==> trolls whine about OP ==> nerfed
Its the EVE way.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
4912
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Posted - 2014.05.19 00:25:00 -
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Quit picking the most OP ships and fits you can find?
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
391
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Posted - 2014.05.19 00:47:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Tom Gerard wrote:THIS IS CRAZY UPSIDE DOWN LAND?!?!?! (+¢ souo+¦-P -Äo++u¦¥ no-Ä ¦¥do+Ñ ¦¥-ì
Posting from New Zealand ? |
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