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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1139
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:05:00 -
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Steal mission objectives every chance you get!! 
I sometimes try to sell them back, but mostly just give them back for free if they ask nicely. Sadly, the majority of them just warp off without a word, or go straight to petitioning for harassment, rather than interact with another player in a civil manner. |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:06:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:
its not the rules as it is poor game design that CCP isn't willing to make the effort to fix untill more people complain about it.
Out of 50,000 active at peak time How many would you say need to complain before they change the game for you?
Well, people don't usually go around stealing other peoples required mission items, but it does happen. You would think they would just remove that ability rather than have to trouble their GMs with having to reset missions for so many players.
CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4445
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:07:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote: Well, people don't usually go around stealing other peoples required mission items, but it does happen. CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly.
Yeah, but how many people are you going to need to convince to complain about it before you think they will change the game to fit your point of view rather than the clear majority that have posted here today? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Dave Stark
5911
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:09:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly. source that scamming costs ccp money. otherwise we'll have to declare that you're full of ****.
also, being able to scam in eve is something other games don't have and that uniqueness makes eve very attractive. |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:10:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Steal mission objectives every chance you get!!  I sometimes try to sell them back, but mostly just give them back for free if they ask nicely. Sadly, the majority of them just warp off without a word, or go straight to petitioning for harassment, rather than interact with another player in a civil manner.
You might think that is part of the game, but its not. It is simply being an a-hole because you can. As with everything, it is only a matter of time before this dumb mechanic gets changed. |

Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:10:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:I suggest CCP give a kick to the face of the sociopaths...
HEY!! Some of us are high-functioning sociopaths.
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Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
648
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:10:00 -
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Since you are obviously going to quit, over how everyone is a griefer, scammer, and all around sociopath, can I have your stuff, and from your main too?
EDIT: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6504
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:12:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:
its not the rules as it is poor game design that CCP isn't willing to make the effort to fix untill more people complain about it.
Out of 50,000 active at peak time How many would you say need to complain before they change the game for you? Well, people don't usually go around stealing other peoples required mission items, but it does happen. You would think they would just remove that ability rather than have to trouble their GMs with having to reset missions for so many players. CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly.
If you think the game is ugly, why do you stay? 11 years and CCP has allowed (hell, encouraged) scamming, it's never going to change.\
I just don't get people like you. You hate things enough to post over and over again (from behind the cover of an npc alt) but you somehow don't hate those things enough to go play a game you actually like (with a community you'd actually like)? That's insane.
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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:12:00 -
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tl;dr
I'm full of hope and I may have chosen the wrong game to attempt to share my love and care for the utopian world I know exists. Also, I'm bad and have not been prudent when accepting contracts... It's my own fault but I blame you evil-Eve! |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
121
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:13:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly. source that scamming costs ccp money. otherwise we'll have to declare that you're full of ****. also, being able to scam in eve is something other games don't have and that uniqueness makes eve very attractive.
It likely costs them money because people hear about that crap like that and don't even want to give EVE a chance besides being an overall disgusting thing to see in chat constantly. What kind of game company is so lazy that they don't even police scamming in their game?
Is scamming supposed to be part of the appeal? 
See my OP about how this game attracts degenerates. |
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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
663
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:15:00 -
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When I heard about what happened, I thought, " That sounds exactly like what players from EvE would do!"
But then again, how many other games have such a large congregation of their playerbase all in one spot? If you said Blizzcon, fair enough....of all those people who show for that, how many have intimate knowledge of each other? It's hard to know the truly deranged among any one group of people when everyone is a stranger. You need motive and passion. There are people everywhere who will fail to separate fantasy from reality, there are people everywhere, in every game, who will take things a step too far.
From the outside looking in, it seems like we're all a bunch of blowhards but if you hop on TS and talk to people, they're no different from players in any other game. If you actually took the time to talk to people instead of getting butthurt over being taken advantage of, you might learn your tormentors are actually nice people. When you show your asterik everytime you screw up and get taken advantage of, people tend to reflect and amplify that attitude.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6505
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:16:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Steal mission objectives every chance you get!!  I sometimes try to sell them back, but mostly just give them back for free if they ask nicely. Sadly, the majority of them just warp off without a word, or go straight to petitioning for harassment, rather than interact with another player in a civil manner. You might think that is part of the game, but its not. It is simply being an a-hole because you can. As with everything, it is only a matter of time before this dumb mechanic gets changed.
*another 11 years pass*
Priestess Lin: ANY MOMENT NOW!!!
*Another 11 years pass*
Priestess Lin: Yep, the year 2036 is the year CCP changes this dumb mechanic.
Bonus: we figured out who you are, you're the guy who got his COSMOS item stolen, made 3 threads about it that ISD made go bye-bye and are still on about it. I suggest medication.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4447
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:18:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:this game attracts degenerates.
Gimme a sec to see what that means.....
degenerate noun d+¬-êd-Æ+¢n(+Ö)r+Öt/ 1. an immoral or corrupt person. "get out of my house, you degenerate!" synonyms:reprobate, debauchee, rake, profligate, libertine, rou+¬, loose-liver
Oh thank goodness
I thought you meant ******* "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:18:00 -
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Kijo Rikki wrote:
From the outside looking in, it seems like we're all a bunch of blowhards but if you hop on TS and talk to people, they're no different from players in any other game.
actions speak louder than words and people can be very different than they appear on voice chat.
quite a few serial killers and rapists are known for being pleasant to talk to. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4447
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:21:00 -
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I have one more quick question, which I imagine will go unanswered as usual as the interesting ones are always avoided...
But what qualifies the OP to be the ajudicator of moral virtue?
Judge not lest ye be judged, non? "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
664
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:21:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Kijo Rikki wrote:
From the outside looking in, it seems like we're all a bunch of blowhards but if you hop on TS and talk to people, they're no different from players in any other game.
actions speak louder than words and people can be very different than they appear on voice chat. quite a few serial killers and rapists are known for being pleasant to talk to.
You are failing to separate fantasy from reality in this case. |

Dave Stark
5915
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:21:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly. source that scamming costs ccp money. otherwise we'll have to declare that you're full of ****. also, being able to scam in eve is something other games don't have and that uniqueness makes eve very attractive. It likely costs them money because people hear about that crap like that and don't even want to give EVE a chance besides being an overall disgusting thing to see in chat constantly. What kind of game company is so lazy that they don't even police scamming in their game? Is scamming and sociopathic behavior supposed to be part of the appeal?  See my OP about how this game attracts degenerates.
fun fact: when the first corp theft happened after a short while player numbers were up not down despite people stamping feet and threatening to quit. underhand activities in eve are good for the game's overall health, the game markets itself on that stuff.
you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
18403
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:21:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:You might think that is part of the game, but its not. It is simply being an a-hole because you can. As with everything, it is only a matter of time before this dumb mechanic gets changed. CCP disagree, to the extent that the official wiki covers it as a profession. Source : https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ninja_Looting#As_a_Profession
On scams CCP have this to say
Quote:Scams
A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions. Source : http://community.eveonline.com/support/knowledge-base/article.aspx?articleId=27
TL;DR what you're complaining about is totally legit as far as CCP are concerned, don't like it? Tough.
Nil mortifi sine lucre Never go full Ripard |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:22:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:
Darkfall doesn't condone scamming however
Neither does EVE.
Is there any way I can put this in my sig so its shame can be immortalized?
Thank you Tippia for your words of wisdom.  |

Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2304
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:26:00 -
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There's not going to be enough popcorn to last out this thread. Bring your possibles. |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4448
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:27:00 -
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Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:There's not going to be enough popcorn to last out this thread. We need chips in here STAT "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Destruction Derpy
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:28:00 -
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I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.
Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money. People started to give him money. More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest. More and more people kept giving him money. He took it all and ran.
According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game, because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.
5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen. Realism attracts players.
Facts beat your disconnected opinions. Destruction Derpy 11 will be held on the 25th of May 2014! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=345038&find=unread
Frigates only! All pilots welcome! :D See bio for more! :D
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Dave Stark
5917
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:30:00 -
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Destruction Derpy wrote:I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.
Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money. People started to give him money. More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest. More and more people kept giving him money. He took it all and ran.
According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game, because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.
5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen. Realism attracts players.
Facts beat your disconnected opinions.
glad i'm not the only one who remembers that story. |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:30:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Priestess Lin wrote:CCP must figure it will cost them more money than they are losing by choosing not to police scamming. Maybe they are right, but it certainly makes their game ugly. source that scamming costs ccp money. otherwise we'll have to declare that you're full of ****. also, being able to scam in eve is something other games don't have and that uniqueness makes eve very attractive. It likely costs them money because people hear about that crap like that and don't even want to give EVE a chance besides being an overall disgusting thing to see in chat constantly. What kind of game company is so lazy that they don't even police scamming in their game? Is scamming and sociopathic behavior supposed to be part of the appeal?  See my OP about how this game attracts degenerates. fun fact: when the first corp theft happened after a short while player numbers were up not down despite people stamping feet and threatening to quit. underhand activities in eve are good for the game's overall health, the game markets itself on that stuff. you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
reach harder. You lack common sense. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
4448
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:30:00 -
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Destruction Derpy wrote:I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.
Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money. People started to give him money. More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest. More and more people kept giving him money. He took it all and ran.
According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game, because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.
5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen. Realism attracts players.
Facts beat your disconnected opinions. Have a muffin, Derpy
You are awesome "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares -á-á ***FREE THE JITA 1*** |

Dave Stark
5917
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:32:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:reach harder. You lack common sense. reach harder? i reached for a quote from the big cheese of CCP.
try again, darlin'. |

Quinn Hatfield
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:32:00 -
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Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:There's not going to be enough popcorn to last out this thread. I have some, would you like to share?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6507
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:34:00 -
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Destruction Derpy wrote:I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.
Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money. People started to give him money. More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest. More and more people kept giving him money. He took it all and ran.
According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players people to weak willed to have been playing the game int the 1st place quitted the game, because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.
5000 players REAL EVE players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen. Realism attracts players.
Facts beat your disconnected opinions.
Fixed your post for you.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22068
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:35:00 -
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Priestess Lin wrote:Is there any way I can put this in my sig so its shame can be immortalized? Why would you want to immortalise the fact that you don't know what words mean?
No need to reach anywhere when the facts are already at hand. I'd even venture to guess that the high-profile scams of yore are to this day the largest contributors of new players. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |

Priestess Lin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.05.20 15:35:00 -
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Destruction Derpy wrote:I would like to end thia thread by twlling a short summary of a story CCP Hellmat himself told at the 10 year anniversary fanfest.
Some guy said he'll pay lots of interest if people gave him money. People started to give him money. More people kept giving him money, because he kept paying interest. More and more people kept giving him money. He took it all and ran.
According to CCP Hellmar, 500 players quitted the game, because CCP refused to step in as it was their own decision to put trust into this.
5000 players joined the game, because nowhere else could this happen. Realism attracts players.
Facts beat your disconnected opinions.
are you sure it wasn't over 9000?
sounds really believable. 
and even it its true, it just reinforces my point about CCP being greedy and attracting even the scum bags.
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