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kieron	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:17:00 - [1] In the next part of the Bloggers series, Clover previews the 'in development' Professions system, including a new profession and some insight into the importance of Hacking and Archeology. Enjoy! kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

0lly	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:20:00 - [2] Edited by: 0lly on 01/06/2006 20:23:12 Near the top :) So mini professions have nothing to do with height ....? If you were me , You'd want to be somebody else as well .
Shanzem	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:20:00 - [3] Edited by: Shanzem on 01/06/2006 20:24:38 Codebreakers on locked acceleration gates in complexes to try and unlock them (but beware, this can spawn additional enemies if you fail!) finally somthing im intrested in mini professions Edited by wystler, "first" is considered spam. Please email [email protected] for further info. -------------------------------------------
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:22:00 - [4] Edited by: Sarmaul on 01/06/2006 20:22:49 Quote: Josephine the Drag Queen by night! Poor j0 Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
Ebodan	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:26:00 - [5] Looking forward to seeing how salvaging is implemented. Kudos CCP. ----
aeti	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 01/06/2006 20:22:49 Quote: Josephine the Drag Queen by night! Poor j0 I thought the same :P any chance of increasing the drop rate of the skills needed to build the cosmos items, they are probably a bit too rare for what they are worth, and most of the items they are used to build suck :p yay for boosters and tech 3 a set of those would be nice on the new caldari bs :> ------
Raven Aure	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:33:00 - [7] Very interesting read - I think my only concern is that this will be too complicated for the average joe to get into. Nonetheless, good stuff. ______________________ 106 days and still a hijack virgin... Cherry popped! ~kieron Hadron Enterprises
Dhin Xar	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:38:00 - [8] Tech 3? Why am I suddenly very worried?
SpaceDrake Taleweaver	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:39:00 - [9] With juicy bits! --- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward?... Player of the character... well, I'm allowed to keep secrets every now and then.
Tobias Raddick	Posted - 2006.06.01 20:58:00 - [10] I'm enjoying the regular blogs kieron. And now I have a reason to train up my hacking skill again!
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:13:00 - [11] OMG product placement! more ebil corporate CCP at work, putting adverts in innocent dev blogs! whats next? concord billboards? warning, this is sarcasm, and i don't want to have to explain it. don't make me
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:14:00 - [12] Originally by: aeti tech 3 i was hoping for a "really freaking advanced railgun ammo" type on there
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:14:00 - [13] "Josephine the Drag-Queen" How did you know BDCI Recruitment Officer
keepiru	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:18:00 - [14] Edited by: keepiru on 01/06/2006 21:18:55 Originally by: HippoKing warning, this is sarcasm, and i don't want to have to explain it. don't make me Whats sarcasm? ;o OT: Cool.... WHEN? :D Wow, a shield hp bonus, terribly useful on gall ships im suuureee... ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Amira Silvermist	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:30:00 - [15] Quote: I wanted to add a feature where a huge round rock rolls around chasing you You could have used big veldspar roids instead... Removed signature image, resize to fit forum policy of 24000 bytes. Thanks =) - Daigon
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:36:00 - [16] Originally by: keepiru Wow, a shield hp bonus, terribly useful on gall ships im suuureee... Yeah, shield is kind of meh. Elemental shields are better, though its rather unbalanced that you can only get 9% from an altar and get 25% from the sigil stones. (Tech 3 is starting to look suspiciously like "enchanting") --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
keepiru	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Hllaxiu (Tech 3 is starting to look suspiciously like "enchanting") Funny. Worrying, yet funny... ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Janra Rax	Posted - 2006.06.01 21:51:00 - [18] Could we have a look at the massive poster with everything linked together please.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:07:00 - [19] Edited by: Sarmaul on 01/06/2006 22:09:12 Originally by: aeti yay for boosters and tech 3 a set of those would be nice on the new caldari bs :> what? how? TELL! edit: nm, I have tools for digging out that data Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
Nate D	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:56:00 - [20] THANK YOU CCP!!!! When Archeology and Hacking 1st came out you guys said they'd be so cool! So I got them both to lvl 5 to find out what a waste it was. NOW I CAN'T wait to use them for what they're meant for! This and Exploring is going to be such a Kick-A Combo! Thanks Guys! -Nate D ----------------------------------- My Resume is bait for a job at CCP. If I come off as sarcastic or rude, it's just my American humor.
Gierling	Posted - 2006.06.01 22:58:00 - [21] When it comes out it will probably require large railgun spec 5. Proposal to fix blobbing and make Charisma useful.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Gierling When it comes out it will probably require large railgun spec 5. nah, CCP have already said they want the skills to be roughly the same as t2. as t3 is simply a progression of the spec, having the skill to 2 seems to be appropriate. Don't forget, we still have T4 and T5 to go (spec 3 and 4?). Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:30:00 - [23] See that modification type in the description? That would be the specific bonus for it. I'm guessing it's been modified for a caldari sniper BS with shield thingies. BDCI Recruitment Officer
Frezik	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:30:00 - [24] Edited by: Frezik on 01/06/2006 23:30:19 Quote: . . . we integrated them into the grand Next Generation R&D scheme of things that Oveur came up with (he made this HUGE diagram linking everything in EVE with everything else, it looks cool but it gives me migraine looking at it for too long). Any chance some pics of this could find their way onto my hard drive? ---- "Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth
Menkaure	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:52:00 - [25] Quote: Shortly after deciding that doing something called mini-profession was way cool and the way to go, we integrated them into the grand Next Generation R&D scheme of things that Oveur came up with (he made this HUGE diagram linking everything in EVE with everything else, it looks cool but it gives me migraine looking at it for too long). From this monstrous diagram arose the simple truth of what mini-professions are: they enable players, in one way or another, to create items not otherwise accessible. Will give my soul to see that diagram!
babylonstew	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:55:00 - [26] that tech 3 linky aint working for me, cannot find server but blogg sounds very intriguibg, might just train hacking and archeology a bit higher now Forum advice Linkage
Xelios	Posted - 2006.06.02 00:15:00 - [27] Quote: Finally, we’re adding the option for you to use your Codebreakers on locked acceleration gates in complexes to try and unlock them (but beware, this can spawn additional enemies if you fail!) Does this mean if someone wants to chain npc's inside a complex he just has to zap a locked gate with a codebreaker from time to time? Looks promising though =)
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.02 00:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 01/06/2006 20:24:38 Codebreakers on locked acceleration gates in complexes to try and unlock them (but beware, this can spawn additional enemies if you fail!) I fear plex *****s will just steal stuff if you manage to get in before them now... Altho spawning extra enemies on purpose could be good isk farming.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.06.02 00:51:00 - [29] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: aeti tech 3 i was hoping for a "really freaking advanced railgun ammo" type on there Just think, t3 heavvy missile launchers/railguns with bonus shield Hp. And you people though shield tanks were strong before...
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.02 01:00:00 - [30] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: aeti tech 3 i was hoping for a "really freaking advanced railgun ammo" type on there Just think, t3 heavvy missile launchers/railguns with bonus shield Hp. And you people though shield tanks were strong before... now imagine an apoc with a full rack of tachs with armor hp modifications Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.02 01:17:00 - [31] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: aeti tech 3 i was hoping for a "really freaking advanced railgun ammo" type on there Just think, t3 heavvy missile launchers/railguns with bonus shield Hp. And you people though shield tanks were strong before... now imagine an apoc with a full rack of tachs with armor hp modifications That doesnt worry me 1 bit The 8 turret rof bonus tier 3 Minmattar monstrosity with tech 3 a/cs with +10 base speed mod is what figures in my nightmares
Rask	Posted - 2006.06.02 02:59:00 - [32] Edited by: Rask on 02/06/2006 02:59:08 Come on all of you, Tech 3 means the freighters get twice as big holds and move 1/4 as fast as now. Oh yea and get a high slot for stealth :)
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2006.06.02 02:59:00 - [33] Yeah more nice stuff I guess, but are we going to see any of those things any time soon ? Or is this all intended to arrive somewhere in 2007-2008 ish ?
fairimear	Posted - 2006.06.02 06:22:00 - [34] around a bend? would that bend be rather large and feature a t2 bs class?
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.06.02 07:16:00 - [35] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 02/06/2006 07:16:31 Originally by: Menkaure Quote: Shortly after deciding that doing something called mini-profession was way cool and the way to go, we integrated them into the grand Next Generation R&D scheme of things that Oveur came up with (he made this HUGE diagram linking everything in EVE with everything else, it looks cool but it gives me migraine looking at it for too long). From this monstrous diagram arose the simple truth of what mini-professions are: they enable players, in one way or another, to create items not otherwise accessible. Will give my soul to see that diagram! Yes, can we see this diagram please? Would be fun to get into the mind of kieron. Edit: This Band of Bloggers thing is great. Very, very good idea. Suddenly we are all informed and stuff. Whining is a powerful thing. --- The Eve Wiki Project
elFarto	Posted - 2006.06.02 08:21:00 - [36] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: aeti tech 3 i was hoping for a "really freaking advanced railgun ammo" type on there Note the extra 'modification type' attribute... Regards elFarto npc.elfarto.com > Ingame NPC database Simon: River! River? Are you okay? River: I swallowed a bug.
Dak Hakin	Posted - 2006.06.02 08:29:00 - [37] Hmm... I'm kinda confused about the whole thing. Its all gonna be complex based? Rather limiting I think, and something to be farmed by those with tons of time, or a place for gankers to sit and wait for an industrial... well, maybe not that part since an industrial player wont be in a complex... Maybe I missed something... _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.06.02 09:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: aeti tech 3 i was hoping for a "really freaking advanced railgun ammo" type on there Just think, t3 heavvy missile launchers/railguns with bonus shield Hp. And you people though shield tanks were strong before... now imagine an apoc with a full rack of tachs with armor hp modifications Now imagine a rack full of 1400mms with bonuses to target painter effectiveness Testy's Eve Blog - Updated 01/06/06 Today's forum noob level : Neutral.
Flyyn	Posted - 2006.06.02 09:18:00 - [39] hummm....we now know... the Devs play WoW and are intrested in drag queens.... This is as bad as it can get, but don't bet on it.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.02 09:19:00 - [40] so tech3 will be cosmos grinding? really cool research you got there... I doubt the majority of alliance players is happy about grinding stupid plexes for tech3 stuff. Why not introduce POS modules which can modify tech2 guns to tech3 guns? Every kind of Modification needs a BPO which you can gain when you invest lots of money in a research module at a POS. There wont be a overlfow of tech3 stuff, since the modification will take time, money and needs a tech2 items (which are limited anyway). The tech3 producing module should be expansive and big, like capital ship arrays. So even bigger alliances cant afford more then 3-5 of them. When you consider that modifying a HAC should take about 12h there wont be a overflow of tech3 ships (very low output of the ships). But making tech3 grinding, thats bad. From Dusk till Dawn
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.02 09:27:00 - [41] In addition to my first post. You could also upgrade 0.0 by giving every 0.0 region a special modification type. In Venal you get 425er rails with a bit longer range with shield HP bonus. In Fountain the same Railgun can get modified into a 425er rail with lower range and more damage. If you think that will make alliances to strong, then you can allow lowsec to get such modifications as well, but not as good. Like this holding special regions would finally mean something. Holding a Region like Fountain would be deservable and the ability to mantain POSes would be a clear advantage. Also Alliances in special regions would get different flavours. The guys from venal would be better at long range with their tech3 guns, whereas the fountain guys would kickass at shorter ranges. From Dusk till Dawn
Herschel Eisen	Posted - 2006.06.02 10:26:00 - [42] Quote: Shortly after deciding that doing something called mini-profession was way cool and the way to go, we integrated them into the grand Next Generation R&D scheme of things that Oveur came up with (he made this HUGE diagram linking everything in EVE with everything else, it looks cool but it gives me migraine looking at it for too long). I wanna see that... Don¦t worry. Got asperine.
Dak Hakin	Posted - 2006.06.02 10:44:00 - [43] Originally by: Nafri so tech3 will be cosmos grinding? really cool research you got there... I doubt the majority of alliance players is happy about grinding stupid plexes for tech3 stuff. Why not introduce POS modules which can modify tech2 guns to tech3 guns? Every kind of Modification needs a BPO which you can gain when you invest lots of money in a research module at a POS. There wont be a overlfow of tech3 stuff, since the modification will take time, money and needs a tech2 items (which are limited anyway). The tech3 producing module should be expansive and big, like capital ship arrays. So even bigger alliances cant afford more then 3-5 of them. When you consider that modifying a HAC should take about 12h there wont be a overflow of tech3 ships (very low output of the ships). But making tech3 grinding, thats bad. Seems like the whole lot of it is complex grinding. _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Melkor Bloodaxe	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:08:00 - [44] Quote: Shortly after deciding that doing something called mini-profession was way cool and the way to go, we integrated them into the grand Next Generation R&D scheme of things that Oveur came up with (he made this HUGE diagram linking everything in EVE with everything else, it looks cool but it gives me migraine looking at it for too long). From this monstrous diagram arose the simple truth of what mini-professions are: they enable players, in one way or another, to create items not otherwise accessible. I vote for publishing the diagram on the forum --- 49. Fares Hrym from the east / holding his shield the Mithgard-Worm / in mighty rage scatters the waves / screams the eagle his nib tears the dead / Naglfar loosens. [Voluspa]

Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:21:00 - [45] Originally by: Nafri so tech3 will be cosmos grinding? really cool research you got there... I doubt the majority of alliance players is happy about grinding stupid plexes for tech3 stuff. Why not introduce POS modules which can modify tech2 guns to tech3 guns? Every kind of Modification needs a BPO which you can gain when you invest lots of money in a research module at a POS. There wont be a overlfow of tech3 stuff, since the modification will take time, money and needs a tech2 items (which are limited anyway). The tech3 producing module should be expansive and big, like capital ship arrays. So even bigger alliances cant afford more then 3-5 of them. When you consider that modifying a HAC should take about 12h there wont be a overflow of tech3 ships (very low output of the ships). But making tech3 grinding, thats bad. You could also upgrade 0.0 by giving every 0.0 region a special modification type. In Venal you get 425er rails with a bit longer range with shield HP bonus. In Fountain the same Railgun can get modified into a 425er rail with lower range and more damage. If you think that will make alliances to strong, then you can allow lowsec to get such modifications as well, but not as good. Like this holding special regions would finally mean something. Holding a Region like Fountain would be deservable and the ability to mantain POSes would be a clear advantage. Also Alliances in special regions would get different flavours. The guys from venal would be better at long range with their tech3 guns, whereas the fountain guys would kickass at shorter ranges. No, the gathering of knowledge, information, materials, technology - the ingredients - for Tech levels is based on utiliziation of mini-professions. The invention/reverse engineering and manufacturing is something else entirely. When you get Tux writes about Combat Boosters, you'll get an idea of the whole chain surrounding it. That is for example heavily reliant on Starbase structures. And any information you have about Tech 3, besides in this blog, which describes the connection between gathering ingredients for all Tech levels, should be ignored completely. It's all rumours and speculation. Regarding your speculation on ship upgrades, which are a result from Salvaging, I'd suggest you wait for the blog about that, you really aren't that far off with your suggestion, you are simply assuming the worst from the start. Combat Boosters for example is COSMOS based, so that the ingredients are unique to the region they are in and currently, these regions are 8. And to answer the inevitable question about COSMOS, it's different depending on where the COSMOS project is being done. In empire, they are heavily agent based, while in 0.0 it's more about unique resources, environments and exploration. COSMOS is simply to paint on the canvas that is the EVE universe. Senior Producer EVE Online


Oveur	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:26:00 - [46] Originally by: Melkor Bloodaxe Quote: Shortly after deciding that doing something called mini-profession was way cool and the way to go, we integrated them into the grand Next Generation R&D scheme of things that Oveur came up with (he made this HUGE diagram linking everything in EVE with everything else, it looks cool but it gives me migraine looking at it for too long). From this monstrous diagram arose the simple truth of what mini-professions are: they enable players, in one way or another, to create items not otherwise accessible. I vote for publishing the diagram on the forum No, it won't. It's far from finished and it would simply be used as "where is this you promised" rather than "good read about the insanity of Oveur" Senior Producer EVE Online

Severa Crest	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:38:00 - [47] Any insight into how this will all work? Will it be just activating modules on stuff, with a % chance of success based on SP in that mini-profession?
Oosel	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:52:00 - [48] im liking the sound of it already. working for t3 rewards rather than just gettling flukey in the current t2 lottery system has to be good.....hopefully it wont all be 0.0 based though as non alliance peeps need a dangled carrot also
Windle Poons	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:01:00 - [49] Is there any chance we can get a blog about the status of those long forgotten features that never made it? Divisional Wallets Wallet Export Unfinished corp tax system. An Emperor? Shares! Any chance of giving us some information as to why some of the T1 bpos are still unseeded after over 3 years (damage control 1 anyone?) It's all very well talking about what might be implemented, but I would like to know about the things that are supposed to be implemented and aren't. Windle
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:18:00 - [50] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Nafri I assuming the worst cause I play Eve NOT to be forced to grind anything at all. Mini professions are grinding, just with a different name. I have no problem when people like it, but I have a problem if Eve is getting a grind game (allowing people with 24/7 time to play getting huge advantage compared to others). It will be ok if this gathering is just a way to take little part of it without beeing a major player but honestly, who has fun doing this pseudo hacking? Last time I heard anything about it was when a player laughed in channel how stupid it was. Just train the skill to lvl5, thats all what it needs to be a expert hacker... COSMOS for me and most other players is just a money grind and a way to exploit game mechanisms to maximize profit (Minmatar cosmos cough). Sitting in a carrier and doing the same mission over and over again, only to fail its last part and getting multi billion isk without risk (your sitting at a POS with the carrier of course) is no fun. I admit I have never taken part in any cosmos stuff directly, but reading the right channels gives you the idea about it. It seems like you plan to make 0.0 Cosmos something similar to mining, but with a differen resources. At least no space agents in 0.0, which makes me quite happy (I hated the agent system since it got pushed like hell, killed so many funny parts of this game, including low sec mining, low sec belt hunting, killing the low sec miners and low sec belt hunter). But please remember, whatever you do, dont make it another afk research (tech2) or grind (missions/empire COSMOS). Another thing: Salvaging, is it to salvage NPC wrecks, or PC wrecks? First one would be "nahh, boring" later one would be "zomg, finally it makes sense to kill stuff again". I always hoped salvaging would resurrect the art of piracy again and I think I wasnt alone with that hope. Conclusion: Its nice that you try to make space more shiny, but I would prefer it if you gave players the possiblity to make space and especially 0.0 a better place. P.S. Change Missions, they ruin low sec (Annacale cough sad cough) P.P.S. Stop the grinds, they just annoy long time players (although thy make newbies stay for about 1 month longer before leaving again) From Dusk till Dawn
Pesadel0	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:18:00 - [51] Quote: Another thing: Salvaging, is it to salvage NPC wrecks, or PC wrecks? First one would be "nahh, boring" later one would be "zomg, finally it makes sense to kill stuff again". I always hoped salvaging would resurrect the art of piracy again and I think I wasnt alone with that hope. This i would like to know too
Olivin	Posted - 2006.06.02 18:05:00 - [52] But I thought are many min-professions in game already. To name a few: 1. Archeologist Eve archeologist look like Caldari. He use space advanced exploration vehicle (SAEV) to find, explore and dig the archeological sites. Oh wait... there is nothing to explore and dig, because it's all found and visible already. Rats with nerfed bounties and crappy loot also love those archeological sites. They mate and spawn there like it's a last day of Eve. So, don't forget to fit your favourite launchers and swap SAEV for a Ferox. You will also need to learn an archeology, which is incredibly useful for activating your ubber Analyser module . As name implies, it's used to analyse stuff. Unfortunately, every archeological site consist only of floating garbage and other archeologist's cans filled with crappy loot from the nerfed rats. Within this garbage you will find construction components for your ancient BPC. Oh wait, you do need to grind missions first, because only agents will give you these ancient BPC's... and one time only. But I heard they look pretty good on the hangar walls, instead of corpse and dog tags. 2. Hacker[b] Dear hackers, you are in the same boat as archeologists, but you need to hack the floating garbage, which is the same as analysing it, but sounds a lot cooler. [b]3. Tuxwhip Latest mini-profession which require leadership and advanced writing skills, where you expected start every your sentence with Tux. For example: "Tux look", or "Tux please, or "Tux give", etc. Rewards are somewhat questionable, but risk is also very minimal. Olivin
Olivin	Posted - 2006.06.02 18:26:00 - [53] Edited by: Olivin on 02/06/2006 18:29:00 Originally by: Oveur And to answer the inevitable question about COSMOS, it's different depending on where the COSMOS project is being done. In empire, they are heavily agent based, while in 0.0 it's more about unique resources, environments and exploration. COSMOS is simply to paint on the canvas that is the EVE universe. There are many questions, but I will be incredibly happy if you can find some time and answer some of them: 1) Can you clarify why archeologist require about 5 mil in gunnery ( or missile) skills just to stay alive in the current archeological sites? 2) Why instead of research and exploration ( scanning and finding) archeology involved nothing but shooting rats and mindless opening spawn containers? Should we expect changes there? Like a hidden agents, ancient gates, complexes, abounded old structures, mazes ( like Ekdit Spitek mission), etc? 3) Will you balance high sec COSMOS constellations in terms on content and agent distribution? Currently: 9 Agents for Gallente ( plus 4 Sisters of Eve agents and minus 3 relation improvement agents) 24 Agents for Amarr (minus 3 relation improvement agents) 30 Agents for Minmatar ( minus 3 relation improvement agents) 42 Agents for Caldari ( minus 3 relation improvement agents) * 4) Can we expect to use brains while hacking? Math, puzzles, whatever or it will be mindless codebreaker activations on spawn containers/gates, etc? 5) Are there any plans for exploration/archeologist/hacking specialized ships? If not, are there plans to release mods which allow Cov Ops to use Codebreaker and Analyser while cloaked in the designated areas? 6) Should we expect some of current COSMOS BPC's to be improved to reflect their unique (T3 or whatever) nature? Especially, most of Ani BPC's, which are basically are T1 and sometimes simply basic items. Thank you Olivin
Lygos	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:34:00 - [54] Did I read that right? Greater rewards for complex farming? Well, at least you can kill the people within the complex. Well, some of the time, you know, like when the key eventually spawns.
Del Narveux	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:58:00 - [55] Random stuff 1. New mini-professions sound cool, but will they hopefully be more readily available to Joe Subscriber than COSMOS? The COSMOS modules for the most part suck, and even if you manage to fend off the really-uber-compared-to-reward NPCs in the plexes, you cant do anything with the stuff without an incredibly rare skill (iirc theyre around 500M isk, so for 2 of them you could buy an isk printing press aka t2 bpo). If COSMOS items were really uber this wouldnt be such a problem, but as I said before they sort of suck and hopefully the new mini-profs wont be so restrictive. 2. As Olivin said, both existing and future complexes need a lot of work because right now theyre all basically grinding which gets very old very fast. I too was hoping mini-profs would be more cerebral than 'warp into complex, kill lots of NPCs and grab loot container' so doing well with them requires a bit more than 10 million SP and hours every day to play eve. 3. Tech 3 looks interesting, Im glad to see its not as uber compared to t2 as t2 is to t1. That said Id love to see some penalties attached to them as well ala t2 ammo, i.e. maybe -100HP armor for 250HP shield bonus on that railgun. My chief worry with tech 3 (and beyond) is that it will create the sort of leveling system that makes most all other MMOGs suck. 4. Making boosters go through complexes is a good idea, provided plexes become a bit more interesting than they are now. Not sure what your plans are for making them, but limited-run BPCs should come from plexes too. Boosters seem to me to be a great opportunity to get people who dont have 10 billion isk or get really damn lucky involved in advanced player-based production (and also have a better supply-and-demand model than tech2, which at least with ships seems to be no-supply and demand ). _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2006.06.03 17:29:00 - [56] Originally by: Amira Silvermist Quote: I wanted to add a feature where a huge round rock rolls around chasing you You could have used big veldspar roids instead... Have you noticed how certain missions seem to always involve an acceleration gate which is pointing directly at a big veldspar roid? Paranoid? Me? ----- Russell T Davies is my master now.
Bazman	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:01:00 - [57] You know, i'm sure I saw something in someone's bio once (Might be Entity's bio actually) that lists a T3 Terran 400mm Railgun :P Another 4 years till T3 btw. /me la de da's away ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Bazman You know, i'm sure I saw something in someone's bio once (Might be Entity's bio actually) that lists a T3 Terran 400mm Railgun :P Another 4 years till T3 btw. /me la de da's away that would be the Terran 400mm Shielded Gravity Cannon III, a 425mm Railgun II that has been modified with a XSL9 Micro Shield Generator :P (i.e. +550 shield hp). Originally by: General Apocalypse the game is very well balanced
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:19:00 - [59] Edited by: SengH on 03/06/2006 19:22:39 :( No love for t2 leadership gang mods or more advanced leadership implants? I dunno I'd hope leadership would be considered a profession kinda now.. esp with the silly amt of SP i have invested in it.
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 19:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: SengH Edited by: SengH on 03/06/2006 19:22:39 :( No love for t2 leadership gang mods or more advanced leadership implants? I dunno I'd hope leadership would be considered a profession kinda now.. esp with the silly amt of SP i have invested in it. according to the e3 press release, leadership and gang mods are going to be "looked at" in one of the kali patches they said overhaul of the gang system... introducing sub gangs etc... nothing about new leadership mods ( T1 BCs were supposed to get a leadership upgrade with RMR but that never materialized ). /emote crosses his fingers hoping they dont nuke everything totally for the next 6 months after they patch kali.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:33:00 - [61] omg am sooo glad for once i had to spell the name differently because the one capitalized correctly and with no '0' was already taken ;.; re: the 'mini-professions' thing, it'd be nice if someone reviewed their current skill pre-requirements... as lvl.5 in rank 2 skill that you basically only train if you want to fly covert ops... that's hardly a 'mini' requirement to dabble with on the side :\|
Tachy	Posted - 2006.06.04 17:38:00 - [62] Originally by: Sarmaul [...]according to the e3 press release, leadership and gang mods are going to be "looked at" in one of the kali patches There are three devs looking at the font since ColdWar and (probably another three) since RMR. Boosters = Loads of 0.0 toys. Gangs: Umm, no, nothing new in the gang department. Not a word about improving the gang features. No, not even the formations, nor the tactical stuff had been talked about for quite a while. No, we didn't get a single word on any improvements to the Logsitic pilot's problems. Mini-Professions: Ah, yes. One day, the fantastic and special mini-professions (hacking, archaeology) will be worth the time I invested in training them. Atm they're just dangerous complex grinding activities with no real point - as interesting as mining. Well, there will probably be more blogs about the planned changes and additions in the future. We'll be waiting for something more interesting. We wont leave anytime soon. --==*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray
Caethes Adain	Posted - 2006.06.04 18:13:00 - [63] Sigh another "shoot crap to progress" part of the game, and again scientists and manu peeps have to train gunnery, and pretty much every skill in order to do their job. Seems like it will be a case of alliances having yet more...if not all access to all the cool new stuff (unless I read it wrong and the complexes aren't going to be in lo sec). Boosters are going to require POS + low sec= CCP's push to get everyone to low sec and join alliances. Huzzah! Yes, this is pure speculation but the way it looks atm manu and r&d take another kick to the head, the only aspect of the game I was looking forward to improving takes another dive and I whinge yet again about the sorry state of my once chosen proffesion. Such a sad state of things where virtually every game on this planet involves killing crap in order to have something akin to fun. Bleh
F'nog	Posted - 2006.06.05 04:53:00 - [64] Did Clover get in trouble for revealing RL info about j0? Originally by: Panzer Goddess I podded wrangler, and all I got was this lousy forumban.
Joerd Toastius	Posted - 2006.06.05 09:26:00 - [65] Originally by: Tachy Originally by: Sarmaul [...]according to the e3 press release, leadership and gang mods are going to be "looked at" in one of the kali patches There are three devs looking at the font since ColdWar and (probably another three) since RMR. Unless CCP have been lying to us about playing the game all this time, all the devs have been "looking at" the font since Cold war :P

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