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Naurhir
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Posted - 2006.06.03 15:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Omeega
STFU ET I LEARNT YOU ALL ABOUT EVE.
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Vashi Dokumentu
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Posted - 2006.06.03 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Heinky
Nice to see all the whiners in this thread.
The coalition of "we cant do it alone" alliances crying because RA play the war with much better tactics. If u cant handle setting up more pos,s then RA just deal with it.
Doesnt matter if RA dont show up to fight with a single ship or not, if they are taking back their stations by spamming pos,s its a victory for them and a very good tactical move.
Go RA !!!!!
Long time ago, i thought, what BE is just a bunch of loosers with stabbed low slots. But after some time passed, i relized what I`M looser, who wasnt able to catch them and killed them.
I didnt had a chance to say that but, good job BE.
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Beyond Horizon
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Posted - 2006.06.03 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 03/06/2006 16:48:26
Originally by: Lord Wimbishi
You (RA)forced Ghost to change sides by treating us so damn poorly when and after we came to Cache to help RA.
We are bad babysitters, sorry.
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Tao Han
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Posted - 2006.06.03 20:50:00 -
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At the start of the war it was a handful of pilots vs the Red Machine and everyone was praising the little guys (now called The Coalition), now that RA has lost a lot of numbers (deadweight? Dont really know) and the coalition is outnumbering them the opinions turned quickly.
Now The Coalition is the evil empire and RA the rebel scum :p
And I can understand some of the frustration that Coalition pilots express here, fighting RA is not very fun largely because of the timezone difference and the now changed public opinions on these boards.
Spamming towers sucks, especially if they get spammed while your forces are either at work or sleeping.
If the usage of the carrier overload really was used I would like to see actions taken against RA, its not the first time I've heard about them using exploits and I can guarantee you that its not exactly a morale boost for the opposite side.
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FdD Banshee
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Posted - 2006.06.04 10:41:00 -
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Well during the last weeks there have been a lot of hate posts against RA and i personally dont like to see that. We all have to keep one thing in mind, first of all its just a game.
Everyone got his own way to play this game. If you dont like it dont fight 'em.
Sure the way RA is playing this game is not really entertaining for their opponents but that should not be a reason to seed a lot of hate.
I'm sure that among our enemies there are a lot of honorable players and also players that some ppl started to hate. But thats should always stay out of the forums because personal opinions are not for public hate threads. If you dont like someone send him an eve mail and express your feelings and always keep in mind that on the other side of the monitor there is a human beeing.
Anyway thats are my two cents, heads up and keep fighting. At the end its not the words that are talking, its the guns that speak. 
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Basilii
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Posted - 2006.06.04 10:44:00 -
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FdD - good post and respect .
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Papa Digger
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Posted - 2006.06.04 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tao Han
At the start of the war it was a handful of pilots vs the Red Machine and everyone was praising the little guys (now called The Coalition), now that RA has lost a lot of numbers (deadweight? Dont really know) and the coalition is outnumbering them the opinions turned quickly.
Now The Coalition is the evil empire and RA the rebel scum :p
Spamming towers sucks, especially if they get spammed while your forces are either at work or sleeping
Maybe you need less smacking on the forum? Respect your enemies, or one day you lose respect even from friends.
PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
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Roma Augustus
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Posted - 2006.06.04 14:30:00 -
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RA's money will run out sooner or later and it will be your pilots that will be getting tired of the fight.
Not with the way the war is being waged against RA. A good chunk of RA's income is from running complexes right under the noses of other alliances. Complexes all over the south. Its perplexing that alliances not only ignore the potental revenue for themselves but for the most part, do little to stop RA farming their resources for a war against them.
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eLLioTT wave
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Posted - 2006.06.04 15:33:00 -
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I was saddened today to see RA camping Jita. I think this is a new low for them, and it is sad to see what was once an empire resort to common empire greifing :(
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Captain Logoffski
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Posted - 2006.06.04 15:35:00 -
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Rumor has it that LV alone has deployed 180 towers this weekend, and the other coalition alliances have also been deploying them in extremely large numbers.
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2006.06.04 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Digger
PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
Papa, and so you finally realise everything I said back in November is true. There is a stalemate in the South-East right now, and I am not sure what will change things. Rest assured, we are exploring avenues and deciding strategy as I type this. Those who don't adapt, die. RA have adapted, now can the Coalition? Time will tell. This 3D game of poker goes on, and when your opponent turns a full house, you had better hope that your next hand is better
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Rovers Chronicles
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Tao Han
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Posted - 2006.06.05 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tao Han on 05/06/2006 08:52:43
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Tao Han
At the start of the war it was a handful of pilots vs the Red Machine and everyone was praising the little guys (now called The Coalition), now that RA has lost a lot of numbers (deadweight? Dont really know) and the coalition is outnumbering them the opinions turned quickly.
Now The Coalition is the evil empire and RA the rebel scum :p
Spamming towers sucks, especially if they get spammed while your forces are either at work or sleeping
Maybe you need less smacking on the forum? Respect your enemies, or one day you lose respect even from friends.
PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
My apologies if that came out as smack.
My main point was that the public opinions on this board has changed alot since the war started. RA has a strategy that works, it isnt very fun to fight but it works and you deserve respect for that.
I'm also quite certain that its the public opinion that stated tyhat RA was dead, not the coalition. I think they knew better than to asume that.
As long as there is a will there is a way.
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Perpello
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Posted - 2006.06.05 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Digger
PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
That's so ironic, being said by someone from Red Alliance.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.06.05 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: eLLioTT wave
I was saddened today to see RA camping Jita. I think this is a new low for them, and it is sad to see what was once an empire resort to common empire greifing :(
RIP
You find? I, personally love them for doing it  Fly aaaaall the way to Jita for a new ship is a bugger 
At least with RA camping there I also get a kill before I leave  \o/ \o/
Generally speaking about tactics:
RA are a lot better at pvp now than 5 months ago when the war started. They always had old characters with many SPs but in fleet pvp (IMO) the majority of them were clueless. Now with 5 months tuition fees paid ( ) they are obviously better (also shedding A LOT of dead weight I think).
The problem however lies in those first 1-2 months of war when they lost HUGE amounts of ships and recources for an absolute minimum of kills. This is I think what makes them today play the game so overcautiously to the point, some would say, of cowardice (not your gangs MACTEP -usually-).
I think, however, that perhaps now RA has enough trained people to be able to engage in actual fleet battles (next to POS dont count) and I would wellcome a change of tactics on their behalf. It would make for better fun for everybody and I promise -v- will again become active against RA if you show you are up to it (btw for those that dont know: less than 30% of -v- actively wars with RA over the past 1 month).
About "lets hold hands" and "show respect" posts in this and the previous thread:
I dont show respect just cause its the nice thing to do. I show respect to those who earn it and that makes it count for more doesnt it? I respected NBSI (as they once were) from day 1 of our wars. -MC- after the first week  (all the cov-ops surveillance ****** me off a bit), not too many other entities I am sorry to say.
From RA: ALTZ and CWRA were always nice fights but they are gone (?) now. From those left I have great respect for some individuals: MACTEP of course, 2-3 of their great ceptor pilots (you know who :) ), even ATLUS for great skills (thout snipping is lame the man is a leader at his chosen profession). As a total however RA are A LONG way off gaining my respect.
Some "Coallition" pilots are impressed it seems from POS spamming ability and "tactics". Thats their pprerogative. I wouldnt even be impressed by that if it won somebody all of 0.0 space in EVE. Flavour of the week seems to be lovey lovey by some ... dont expect the rest of us to jump in bed with you just cause you had your boobs done
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Rufus Scheggia
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Posted - 2006.06.05 10:04:00 -
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Personally I'm bored to read that RA have tactic.
I don't think that to use the carrier exploit is a tactic.
I don't think that to shot at bugged POSes ( online POSes with no force field ) in P7 is a tactic.
It's sad, but while a lot of good RA pilots is giving me a lot of fun engaging in Cache, a lot of them have not the same fair play.
Just my 2 cents as a EVE player, not as a CEO of one of -LV- corp.
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Papa Digger
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Posted - 2006.06.05 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Perpello
Originally by: Papa Digger
PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
That's so ironic, being said by someone from Red Alliance.
I join RA only about 2 month ago.. when Coalition start to conquier Scalding Pass. So i saw how many mistakes make RA in protection of their regions. But I hope that leaders take a good lesson from losses, and will be smarter in future.
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Evil Nurse
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Posted - 2006.06.05 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Perpello
Originally by: Papa Digger
PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
That's so ironic, being said by someone from Red Alliance.
I join RA only about 2 month ago.. when Coalition start to conquier Scalding Pass. So i saw how many mistakes make RA in protection of their regions. But I hope that leaders take a good lesson from losses, and will be smarter in future.
About the future, what will RA do after they'll be obliterated completely? Let's face it, the coalition numbers growing with the recent additions will speed up the RA demize process and will ensure that even undocking will be impossible, let alone any decent resistance.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.06.05 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Nurse
About the future, what will RA do after they'll be obliterated completely? Let's face it, the coalition numbers growing with the recent additions will speed up the RA demize process and will ensure that even undocking will be impossible, let alone any decent resistance.
bring it on 
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Stybbe
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Posted - 2006.06.05 23:00:00 -
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r u a real warrior ? GO POST
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Fiona Appletart
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Posted - 2006.06.05 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Al Haquis
Originally by: Bonek
Originally by: Idium Lord
So RED have taken back C-J...
it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station.
But they hold the sys :)
Kudos Red keep biting back
I would think a BoB member would know better then to promote people who use known exploits (i.e. carrier overload?) to fuel and move the parts for those pos's.
"Wah wah no they didn't rabble rabble"
How do you explain the constant fuel/ammo supply coming in with the massive alliance force there, which everyone has attested to.
C-J, yeah, good job, exploiting. We'll see how this goes come the 6th. |
Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2006.06.06 00:14:00 -
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Wowsa ...
Wait, lets ALL load up a couple of carriers with billions and trillions of m¦ of fuel, weapons and POS towers and go visit people in one trip, then wait 5 days to see what happens. No need for a fleet or comabt skills required.
Bollox is all that I can say ......
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Amerame
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Posted - 2006.06.06 00:23:00 -
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You can't load tower in overload, fueling pos even without carrier bug is trivial if you have a few of them. If your plan is to wait for the PoS to go offline, get a few good books.
By the way, what about you remove most of your POS in conquerable system, since anyway RA won't be able to deploy 20 large pos in a few hours without carrier bug ? There's nothing to fear, really.
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Crypt
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Posted - 2006.06.06 00:37:00 -
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Using spies to offline all of an alliances POSes is so much more honorable than using a carrier to bring them in and set them up...uh huh.
Pot, kettle, black?
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Fiona Appletart
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Posted - 2006.06.06 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crypt
Using spies to offline all of an alliances POSes is so much more honorable than using a carrier to bring them in and set them up...uh huh.
Pot, kettle, black?
One is legit game play, which could very well be you ****ed off one of your own members...
One is the willing explotation of a known bug which shouldn't be there to start with.
Oh my, the kettle is alone now, isn't it? |
Fiona Appletart
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Posted - 2006.06.07 03:44:00 -
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Has anyone had word on RA fuel supplies since the carrier patch? |
Orin Fatch
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Posted - 2006.06.07 04:12:00 -
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Bit soon i think, if they used it after they where warned, they probly would have made it well worth, and stocked up in mass.
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Aramova
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Posted - 2006.06.07 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Aramova on 07/06/2006 06:21:49
Originally by: Amerame
Edited by: Amerame on 06/06/2006 00:34:54
You can't load tower in overload, fueling pos even without carrier bug is trivial if you have a few of them. If your plan is to wait for the PoS to go offline, get a few good books.
Yes, you could.
Open your Corp hanger array, drag a 1m3 item into your cargo hold, jetcan it, then drag directly from your corp hanger array into the jetcan. Anything 5,000m3 in size could be moved directly to a jetcan, including unlimited stacks of ammo, fuel, and POS modules to be deployed by someone who flew in with an interceptor and switched to an iteron that was in the Carrier's corp hanger array. Or drag directly from the carrier into the tower it's self.
The bug let the carrier pilot take all they wanted out of the carrier, but there was a special way of putting it in, which has been fixed, thank god.
(I only talk about this now, since it has been fixed. I do not promote the use a exploits and bugs, but I do want people to understand how powerful old bugs where)
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King Dave
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Posted - 2006.06.07 07:20:00 -
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Everyone says oh loot at ra's 400 members, im not saying they arnt quality members, but think how many there were originally :|.
After a month or two so many corps and members left ra it was a joke, they even formed a whole new alliance just to shoot us in empire, so that the ra that didn't want to put up a fight could mine/npc in peace, they now only have 400 members left because we forced the ones that werent good enough to leave or run away to empire, and lets not also forget the hundreds of alt corps that they have
still gg ra, this pos shooting is aweful boring. Also a revelation full of stuff is nowhere near a carrier 10x more full of stuff, and we all know they dont have many revelations...
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f1, f2, alt-q!
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Mochalatte
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Posted - 2006.06.07 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Fiona Appletart
Originally by: Al Haquis
Originally by: Bonek
Originally by: Idium Lord
So RED have taken back C-J...
it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station.
But they hold the sys :)
Kudos Red keep biting back
I would think a BoB member would know better then to promote people who use known exploits (i.e. carrier overload?) to fuel and move the parts for those pos's.
"Wah wah no they didn't rabble rabble"
How do you explain the constant fuel/ammo supply coming in with the massive alliance force there, which everyone has attested to.
C-J, yeah, good job, exploiting. We'll see how this goes come the 6th.
i would think colition would just shut the heck up already. you know you sound like anyone else claiming people are exploiting? your right about one thing. that is if ra still holds the system week from now then you guys really do suck. you put it like we will see if they can hang without their carrier bugs. i say it like this . lets see how the you do now without out an excuse of oh my gosh they are exploiters please ban them. you wonder why opinion has changed over time. the **** you spew out of your mouths on daily basis should tell you just that.
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metal dude [052506] You people canĘt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
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Burzon
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Posted - 2006.06.07 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01
@Mochalatte, even if you are surely encouraged to voice your opinion, am i disagreeing with the style of your voicing, especially as i cannot see your involvement in this conflict. Likes and dislikes can be formulated in polite and mature language.
If you think you can set a timeframe within we need to take back C-J6 in order to not be on your "they s***" list then let it be so.
Regarding OP¦s topic i can personally say the following:
Facts:
1. Red Alliance did claim C-J6
2. Red Alliance are conducting gank squad operations into allied forces territory
3. Red Alliance surely learned to increase their effectiveness in battle
4. Red Alliance failed to accept reasonable terms for a peace treaty weeks ago.
5. Allied Forces are strengthening their hold on Cache by the day.
6. Red Alliance is not interrupting Allied Forces operations at all. At specific times you have a certain risk travelling through our space, while at other times you could use your autopilot.
7. C-J6 will be dealt with as soon as logistics and strategy has been finalized.
Finally i can say the following after months of fighting Red Alliance:
Some RA pilots surely deserve respect and some are very skilled PvP pilots these days. Where RA failed and still fails is to amend their agenda to fit the realities in todays south-eastern regions. RA leadership rejected terms for peace while placing totally insane demands.
If RA would be getting their diplomacy and leadership right, then things might have been way less painful for both parties. In the end they did choose their way and so did the Coalition. We are very determined on our goals and even if we are suffering small setbacks from time to time (C-J6) can we claim success on the global scale.
Nuff said
Burzon
CEO PAX Interstellar
Proud Member of -V-
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