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Idium Lord	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:20:00 - [1] So RED have taken back C-J, and are attacking M53 station.. Are the once massive alliance out doing a Coalition nearly 4 times there size? I cant wait to see what hapns next, this could be interesting. serius question though, is this all happening because RED alliance are using a bug? or is it because there playing on different timezones, and evenly matched fleets cant be formed? (and no i dont consider this useless SPAM its a subject i would like ot hear more about from both sided)
Eteoneus	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:32:00 - [2] 1. Post with your main and not with your alt! 2. Fighting RA is no fun. Most of the time the run even when their gang outnumbers allied forces gangs. Exceptions made for Mactep and Atlus (and their gangs)! Props for them cause they're evertime up for a fight (even if this means sniping all the day). 3. I think it's a timezone problem atm combined with the carrier cargobug that makes RA successive atm. All statements I made here do not reflect the official -V- or allied forces oppinions!!! ---
Hardin	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:36:00 - [3] Originally by: Eteoneus 2. Fighting RA is no fun. From what I have read that seems to be their objective - and from what you have said seems to be that they are succeeding in that objective. ------------------------------ Hardin's Blog
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Eteoneus 2. Fighting RA is no fun. From what I have read that seems to be their objective - and from what you have said seems to be that they are succeeding in that objective. idd, they're goal is to make a game no fun, wonder why they want to play a game, eh? Just kidding RA can keep trying all they want, but I'd be surprised if they can keep up any sort of pressure with 40men at anyone time.. (fortunately for them, they can field 40men at 4-6am game time tho). [Art of War][- V -]
Bonek	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Idium Lord So RED have taken back C-J... it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station.
Al Haquis	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Bonek Originally by: Idium Lord So RED have taken back C-J... it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station. But they hold the sys :) Kudos Red keep biting back ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Council Member, Tahiri Warrior Masuat'aa Forums
Crux Australis	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:48:00 - [7] Originally by: Al Haquis ♥ Change ur forum sig my bold luv. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Originally by: Frezik Detaurus isn't a person. It's a state of mind.
Saerid	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:59:00 - [8] I'd guess sort of wait and see phase going on right now. Getting rid of that carrier bag of holding trick is one thing a lot of the territory control will hinge on. As far as I'm aware there's been at least one warning issued by a GM on the case. Once that goes, it's back to more pedestrian methods of maintaining all those POS which should favor the coalition side heavily (particularly in case of C-J, considering the territory in between that and empire). If RA can keep enough BS in the critical systems they can delay or prevent dread operations from removing their sov holding POS in there. But it's a fight against the tide since they need to commit larger part of their manpower into it than their enemies. Anyway, that's what it looks like from here. Few things which will change the setting again: - Logistics. Once the carrier bugs go, it's an entirely different ballgame on the POS front - Fatigue. At the end of the day RA is committing larger % of it's manpower. That may either show in their numbers dwindling off eventually or it may not. I'd predict they'll lose some but nothing catastrophic. They've been doing it for a good while already anyway. And if they drop below some threshold it'll probably result in another round of coalition POS killing and losing the sov.
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:01:00 - [9] lol @ comments about outnumbered fights. Especially from member of alliances, with tactics known as zerg. Red killed your drednoughts, while they had 50man gang, and you had 120 man gang. Ofc they are running from even fight 2OP. Red provided coalition with loads of "Shoot my pos" thingie. Despite statements from leaders of coalition - it seems that noone want to do this boring job. Sometimes to finish your enemy you must work, and work hard. I don`t think that coalition leaders able to force their ppl to work (shooting pos 4tw !). Simply not enough authority to make 4k ppl working as one. As for bug. Revelation drednought can transport 50k cargo, in 10 minutes (Konora <-> C-J6). Do you really thinking, that if carrier bug will got fixed - red poses will go offline ? ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:01:00 - [10] Keep it up RA!

Dawson	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:03:00 - [11] Good Job RA, keep it up. you guys really arnt quiters. Ambassador/Admiral Join BSC
Xaarist	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:29:00 - [12] Edited by: Xaarist on 02/06/2006 13:28:48 Evil Thug, thx for proving you're fully aware of the situation. These fights you are referring have of course not happened at a heavily armed RA POS, which does of course not count in your calculation at all. Also, Coalition forces of course did not have to warp onto the RA gang, which is producing no lag at all even if they were in the same grid before. Then again, it is very easy to warp onto a fleet which can not choose their spot, by using spots which of course are in perfect combat distance. i come to the conclusion that either the above is not entirely true (again) or you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience free advice for you: READ - THINK - POST! ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD...
Vashi Dokumentu	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:34:00 - [13] Originally by: or you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience free advice for you: READ - THINK - POST! My friend, you are, just made a serios misstake. So my free advice for you: THINK - POST
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Xaarist Edited by: Xaarist on 02/06/2006 13:28:48 Evil Thug, thx for proving you're fully aware of the situation. These fights you are referring have of course not happened at a heavily armed RA POS, which does of course not count in your calculation at all. Also, Coalition forces of course did not have to warp onto the RA gang, which is producing no lag at all even if they were in the same grid before. Then again, it is very easy to warp onto a fleet which can not choose their spot, by using spots which of course are in perfect combat distance. i come to the conclusion that either the above is not entirely true (again) or you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience free advice for you: READ - THINK - POST! Lol you just called Evil thug a forum noob???
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Xaarist [..you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience .. lol!!? BDCI Recruitment Officer
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:46:00 - [16] tbh i always thought ET was an alt
Eteoneus	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Evil Thug lol @ comments about outnumbered fights. Especially from member of alliances, with tactics known as zerg. Red killed your drednoughts, while they had 50man gang, and you had 120 man gang. Ofc they are running from even fight 2OP. Red provided coalition with loads of "Shoot my pos" thingie. Despite statements from leaders of coalition - it seems that noone want to do this boring job. Sometimes to finish your enemy you must work, and work hard. I don`t think that coalition leaders able to force their ppl to work (shooting pos 4tw !). Simply not enough authority to make 4k ppl working as one. As for bug. Revelation drednought can transport 50k cargo, in 10 minutes (Konora <-> C-J6). Do you really thinking, that if carrier bug will got fixed - red poses will go offline ? Hmm, I heared some noise!? Some kind of whispering! Do the others hear that, too? Who is talking there in my head? :D ---
Streyd	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:48:00 - [18] Edited by: Streyd on 02/06/2006 13:51:19 Now it seems that ppl are forgetting two first parts from that free advice: READ - THINK X has nice sense of humor, u just have to see it
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:53:00 - [19] Please stop he does this, he does that. Not very polite. We all know how good and strong RA is. We all know they have very good logistics. We also know they have very patient and polite players. We all also know their PvPers are god-like. RA is trying to hint that they can take down four alliances and win easily. RA is also trying to hint they will win RA vs Everybody. OK, carry on fighting. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire EvE is ecstatically malevolent.
Amerame	Posted - 2006.06.02 13:54:00 - [20] Originally by: Xaarist you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience Lol, ET is such a noob.

Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:06:00 - [21] Edited by: Evil Thug on 02/06/2006 14:07:54 Originally by: thoth foc tbh i always thought ET was an alt This alt have 49m sp, in combat area mostly When i appearing on battlefield, everyone screaming : "omg, this is guy who thrown mud sling on me on eve-o !!! and he is commander ofc ! make him primary" (minus 25k armor in 3 seconds anyone ?) So, i`m not using Thug for combat for around 1 year Xaarist. You had 3 : 1 advantage. You haven`t mentioned 10+ drednoughts. You haven`t mentioned lag generating machine with newbie ships and loads of conts. As for insult. For 1.5 years, i can`t remember enemy, who engaged us in odd numbers \ without tactical advantage. Think more, before calling me newb EDIT : Paragraphs are my friend ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Quarantine	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:09:00 - [22] Originally by: Xaarist free advice for you: READ - THINK - POST! So much bitterness at this point already means you are going to give up on Cache in, let's say, 2 weeks. Good job RA ^^.
dikis	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:10:00 - [23] Edited by: dikis on 02/06/2006 14:13:04 Originally by: Xaarist Edited by: Xaarist on 02/06/2006 13:28:48 Evil Thug, thx for proving you're fully aware of the situation. These fights you are referring have of course not happened at a heavily armed RA POS, which does of course not count in your calculation at all. Also, Coalition forces of course did not have to warp onto the RA gang, which is producing no lag at all even if they were in the same grid before. Then again, it is very easy to warp onto a fleet which can not choose their spot, by using spots which of course are in perfect combat distance. i come to the conclusion that either the above is not entirely true (again) or you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience free advice for you: READ - THINK - POST! So, it's a little bit more complex than you think before http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=330271&page=14#393
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Evil Thug This alt have 49m sp, in combat area mostly When i appearing on battlefield, everyone screaming : "omg, this is guy who thrown mud sling on me on eve-o !!! and he is commander ofc ! make him primary" (minus 25k armor in 3 seconds anyone ?) So, i`m not using Thug for combat for around 1 year hehe i know.. last time we fought we were screaming " XXX = ET omg, this is guy who thrown mud sling on me on eve-o !!! and he is commander ofc ! make him primary"
Cohkka	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:27:00 - [25] Good job RA.
Pride NL	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:28:00 - [26] Yes, Red Alliance is doing well, considering the situation they are in. Lets just leave it at that and let the future tell you all you want.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Evil Thug As for insult. For 1.5 years, i can`t remember enemy, who engaged us in odd numbers \ without tactical advantage. Think more, before calling me newb Newb And anyway BOS would engage you without tactical or numbers advantage, although you would always return the favour to us :) One of the best ever weeks in eve :)
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:39:00 - [28] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: Evil Thug As for insult. For 1.5 years, i can`t remember enemy, who engaged us in odd numbers \ without tactical advantage. Think more, before calling me newb Newb And anyway BOS would engage you without tactical or numbers advantage, although you would always return the favour to us :) One of the best ever weeks in eve :) pwnt selective memory 4tl ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.06.02 14:46:00 - [29] Ill sumit up Red Alliance POS Warfare - Sum attacks but mainly log off the second they are equally challenged Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
Karl Shade	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:06:00 - [30] Good fight to RA. You used the resources at hand very well. And I do not want to see any Wasteland Industries members smacking here. Fights are ingame atm. Kthx. -

Prohibited	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:16:00 - [31] Originally by: Eteoneus 1. Post with your main and not with your alt! You dont make the rules jackass.
Decairn	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:18:00 - [32] It took losing all or all but one stations, and multiple regions, for RA to fight back; better late than never and honestly good luck with the up-n-coming battles. Seems to me that if an alliance wants to hold the region for the long-term it has to be prepared to commit to a significant number of large POS and its maintenance in multiple areas as well as a fighting force to cover each area. Not exactly an easy task considering it takes one evening to spam a system with POS and a week or more concentrated effort to take them out. --Decairn
Johnny Wulgaru	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:27:00 - [33] Anyone itching for a fight from RAT should look no further then the 10/10 complex in tenerifis. I heard they spanked the hobbits for sticking their nose in it . So sez Johnny~~
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:33:00 - [34] Originally by: Xaarist i come to the conclusion that either the above is not entirely true (again) or *you are just a forum whoring noob without any combat experience* Evil Thug noob - proof here
Zagum Darkfin	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:51:00 - [35] Anchoring FTW?
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:57:00 - [36] This thread gives me Deja Vu ---------------
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Amthrianius This thread gives me Deja Vu need a tissue for that?
Mak'shar Karrde	Posted - 2006.06.02 16:38:00 - [38] It took 14 pages until most posters in the last thread started respecting each other, albeit grudgingly. Did that big shiny reset button really need to be pressed?
Aakron	Posted - 2006.06.02 16:51:00 - [39] I found Pos fights boring, congrats to the side that has the strength and the perseverance to fight to the end, may the best pilots win.
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:00:00 - [40] Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 02/06/2006 17:00:43 Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 02/06/2006 14:07:54 As for insult. For 1.5 years, i can`t remember enemy, who engaged us in odd numbers \ without tactical advantage. Think more, before calling me newb EDIT : Paragraphs are my friend bollox. Carrier & Fighter Sales

Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:04:00 - [41] It is kinda boring with POS war, no doubt. And their is no chance in hell to really stop a POS-spamage. I have been on both sides when it comes to that, but suckiest part is that eve lags like a mother #&%(/&)/=)&%#&#&/()(=?)=/%%##ñ""/)=/)=?( when you warp into save your dreads when attacked. But i guess it is so for everyone and it is part of the game. Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Black 1	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:21:00 - [42] Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Eteoneus 1. Post with your main and not with your alt! You dont make the rules jackass. Ignore this idiot....their corp has no association with S******dly or Sniggwaffe Do name impersonations count for corps also? Since the new sniggs are called snigglets I see a direct attempt to impersonate.
Gong	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:22:00 - [43] Maybe half of the Coalition should start to grind for isk, mine and farm complexes like mad, while the rest desturbs all RA activities. And then also play the pos card. Let's see, who wins it.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Eteoneus 2. Fighting RA is no fun. From what I have read that seems to be their objective - and from what you have said seems to be that they are succeeding in that objective. idd, they're goal is to make a game no fun, wonder why they want to play a game, eh? Just kidding RA can keep trying all they want, but I'd be surprised if they can keep up any sort of pressure with 40men at anyone time.. (fortunately for them, they can field 40men at 4-6am game time tho). I'd go for boring my enemy to death also when gangbanged like RA has been, you talk about fun, what fun is it with how many alliances is it now, 10, all going after RA?? You should ask yourself why you still want to fight them, it's obvious they've been cut down to size, keeping them around may help in keeping your neighbours in place too, it's all about the 'art of war'... Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:53:00 - [45] Originally by: Danton Marcellus You should ask yourself why you still want to fight them, it's obvious they've been cut down to size, keeping them around may help in keeping your neighbours in place too, it's all about the 'art of war'... Who said we want to? I do not enjoy their bitterness and arrogance of certain members, and how they need to act with such lameness as log-in traps and safespotting/logoffs. I've personally had 1 good fleet battle in 6 months. Back when RA could field a fleet in january, I think. However this campaign started for V with RA abusing our space, we could not let it continue. The fact that RA could not manage to agree simple terms (Do not use our complexes, Do not camp in our space) in exchange for travel rights through shared pipes is a testament to their arrogance after 'winning' pos wars with .5. What self respecting alliance wouldn't declare war? Chimp, KOS and LV will tell you similer but different reasons as to why they all got involved independently in wars with RA. RA had allies, SNU, FFA, Some IMP corps, Foundation, RAT, GHOST, and a LEGION of other alt corps/non alliance corps but for some reason their diplomacy couldn't keep them helping for long.. Infact, It made enemies of some As for keeping RA to 'keep our neighbours in place', last time I checked 1) Our neighbours all seem pretty reasonable to us, and 2) one gangleader (Mactep) and one sniper (Atlus) doesn't even count as a "pirate infestation" elsewhere in space so what good are they? it's just lucky RA have the isk to spam POS.. but how long will that last for? [Art of War][- V -]
MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.02 18:47:00 - [46] Edited by: MACTEP on 02/06/2006 18:48:06 Originally by: Pepperami RA had allies, SNU, FFA, Some IMP corps, Foundation, RAT, GHOST, they all fly on itself , RA on itself. Did you see for example SNU \ FFA \RAT and RA defending one system>?)) just for one day? we are not allies ...we just have friendly attitudes and we have plus toward each other. its something different ) we cant say SNU , RAT or somebody else ..... -So guys tomorrow we need all your forces in C-J.come and defend it ) RA is fighting and was fighting in our primary regions (cache and insmother) alone.And we ll fight alone, i think its not a problem , the more so we got used this kind of war. -Ghost- were trying defend cache )))...after two weeks they understood how its difficult and changed sides))))))
Drilla	Posted - 2006.06.02 18:52:00 - [47] I fought combined RA & GHOST gangs in P7- before we took cache so that statement arent totally true however I do agree that most of the time RA flies alone. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.02 19:05:00 - [48] Originally by: Drilla I fought combined RA & GHOST gangs in P7- before we took cache so that statement arent totally true however I do agree that most of the time RA flies alone. Drilla mb you don t know but when Ghost came in cache...there were not any RA Commanders at that time )))) and 90% pvp pilots were everywhere except cache ))i said i don t need cache stantions and i don t ll defend it... other commanders said the same.... and cache was defending by ghost and cache-citizens... Ghost ll leave cache anyway and its does not matter how much time it takes a week or half of year, while Coallition protects them ))
Callistus	Posted - 2006.06.02 19:38:00 - [49] Originally by: Black 1 Originally by: Prohibited Originally by: Eteoneus 1. Post with your main and not with your alt! You dont make the rules jackass. Ignore this idiot....their corp has no association with S****dly or Sniggwaffe Do name impersonations count for corps also? Since the new sniggs are called snigglets I see a direct attempt to impersonate. Probably worth a petition tbh, Snigg is a widely recognized short-hand for both S****dly and Sniggwaffe. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Lord Wimbishi	Posted - 2006.06.03 06:43:00 - [50] We did not change sides. We stood a week of RA abuse, insults and hostility and didn't fire back. You (RA)forced Ghost to change sides by treating us so damn poorly when and after we came to Cache to help RA. RA had completely turned it's back on the region and promised support this support that and other junk. I had enough of it and announced we are pulling out, contact LV and them we was pulling out of combat and leaving the conflict. We did not join them till like 8-9 days later after we left, doing so for: RA locked up the stations and everything we had in them before we even pulled out. Declared us Neutral at first, fired on us and later put us to KOS and during the entire time not a single Ghost pilot fired on RA as the Ghost leaders was trying to find a peaceful outcome. RA is getting what it deserves for being beligerant and disrespectful of other people. RA's money will run out sooner or later and it will be your pilots that will be getting tired of the fight. I do respect a few select people in RA but the regime in all is corrupt, disrespecting, greedy and bullyish.

Omeega	Posted - 2006.06.03 08:16:00 - [51] STFU ET I LEARNT YOU ALL ABOUT EVE. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Fistandantalus	Posted - 2006.06.03 09:24:00 - [52] I'm very new to the forums, but since i've been fighting RA since my birth, I feel i have a right to post my opinion. As well as being a CHIMP memeber. Ill give RA respect, they have taught me many things about fighting wars. My corp brought me into 0.0 to engage them a day after i started playing EVE. and i havent left yet. 0.0 is my home and empire fills me with revulsion. I couldnt have survived if RA didnt "teach" me my mistakes. To the coalitions credit, concerning C-J we kept a 23hr camp there for around a week. which is an acomplishment in itself. Especially considering the very true statement of it being a cat and mouse fight the whole time we were there. there really wasnt any fighting in front of the POS's (just to get that straight). There was only a few battles that were worthy of both sides. But the 4 days I was there was filled with hrs of waiting and watching. A good tactic, but still very boring for ALL those invovled. When the final attack did come, and yes i was there. the coalition was very understrengthed. Us pilots there at the time did the best we could. short of suiciding, ourselves against a larger force of BS's,Dreads , and a very evil looking CLOUD of carrier fighters. We tried to mount an attack as best we could but the station was taken very quickly. Not even enough time for an emergency call to arms. We all use the carrier bug to our advantage, i mean come on who wouldnt? As far as POS's spamming that i saw mentioned. Well it is kinda a messed up tactic, but if the coalition had been organized against that threat. then it wouldnt have happened. Like I said RA does teach us what we should be watching out for. Also all those who say RA does not Farm deadspaces is wrong, I know of at least 3 complexes in systems i travel in regualry where there is always at least 2 RA there EVERYDAY.and they are nowhere to be found in belts or near jump gates, or even near planets in those systems. Not one of my corp or my previous CHIMP corp has been able to go into a complex and enjoy the fun of killing masses of npc's. It might not be RA as a whole, but there are some ppl in their alliance that are giving RA a very dishonorable name. I personally dont hate RA, i will fight them forever if that's what it takes. As i said its really all i know how to do anymore. they have become the elmer fudd to my bugs bunny. and it's not like if one defeats the other, another alliance wont fill the void to begin war anew. I know also that if the "coaliton of the many" (as I call it)is beaten. we will just regroup and come back fresh and seasoned from the years of war that many have been fighting. Im nowhwere near as exp. as most of u who read this, but i've was there for the first Detroid expiditions in force by CHIMP, and I was in 995. AS well as C-J. I've seen good and Bad from RA, but i'm tired of the useless smack talk about who is better. Soldiers are soldiers and propagandists should stick to mining. War has no place for words of hate. only action and podding's. It just frustrates me to see great alliances reduced to squabbling forum fighters. We all have good respectable ppl invovled as well as freeloaders who just want the glory with no true contribution. almost makes me wish we could all get out of our pods step 10 paces and draw! Anyway sorry for the long post. i've just been reading these topics for too long and stayed quiet. so i leave u with this: HONOR 4TW.........and maybe a few gatecamps
lilantris	Posted - 2006.06.03 09:47:00 - [53] ok b4 u all yell at me for being an alt. I said in my Very long post that im new to the forums, and my charecter I use is named (lilantris) which is the real me. dont know how to change it so it shows up as her when i post. Fistandatulis was a major fiasco of an experiment, but i dont have the heart to delete him. It's a name from a fav book series, so im trying to save the name until i can get money to pay for an alt lol. if any one can tell me how change so its my main character, i'd appreciate it alot. I make no attempt to hide my noobness. My corp title even say's "Battle seasoned noob" ao dont try and insult me by calling me one. Cause im doin it for ya. I feel my words still have merritt as im not talking out my arse i only say what i feel and see.
tookar	Posted - 2006.06.03 10:04:00 - [54] Raistlin ftw :) No where is the fight today ?
Callistus	Posted - 2006.06.03 10:08:00 - [55] Originally by: lilantris ok b4 u all yell at me for being an alt. I said in my Very long post that im new to the forums, and my charecter I use is named (lilantris) which is the real me. dont know how to change it so it shows up as her when i post. Fistandatulis was a major fiasco of an experiment, but i dont have the heart to delete him. It's a name from a fav book series, so im trying to save the name until i can get money to pay for an alt lol. if any one can tell me how change so its my main character, i'd appreciate it alot. I make no attempt to hide my noobness. My corp title even say's "Battle seasoned noob" ao dont try and insult me by calling me one. Cause im doin it for ya. I feel my words still have merritt as im not talking out my arse i only say what i feel and see. Under the forums link to the left (when signed in) hit Settings, select the character you want and then tick the box "make default". -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Perpello	Posted - 2006.06.03 12:48:00 - [56] I am in a Red Alliance thread /waves
Pylse	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:09:00 - [57] I wish Hassis would come out of hibernation in Sebiestor tribe. Hassis was class to camp HED-GP with =D
Kunming	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:40:00 - [58] Originally by: Evil Thug Sometimes to finish your enemy you must work, and work hard. I don`t think that coalition leaders able to force their ppl to work (shooting pos 4tw !). Simply not enough authority to make 4k ppl working as one. So you are comparing the 2 hours work of put up 20 POS' to the 2 weeks work of blowing them up again? Is that your sense of balance? And dreads are tools of war they meant to be risked and lost at times, besides you dont need 50 ppl, 20 would be enough to pop a dread in a reasonable time especially while its also under POS fire. So boasting about dread-kills is sooo 2004.
Heinky	Posted - 2006.06.03 13:49:00 - [59] Nice to see all the whiners in this thread. The coalition of "we cant do it alone" alliances crying because RA play the war with much better tactics. If u cant handle setting up more pos,s then RA just deal with it. Doesnt matter if RA dont show up to fight with a single ship or not, if they are taking back their stations by spamming pos,s its a victory for them and a very good tactical move. Go RA !!!!!
MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.03 14:34:00 - [60] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi We did not change sides. We stood a week of RA abuse, insults and hostility and didn't fire back. You (RA)forced Ghost to change sides by treating us so damn poorly when and after we came to Cache to help RA. RA had completely turned it's back on the region and promised support this support that and other junk. I had enough of it and announced we are pulling out, contact LV and them we was pulling out of combat and leaving the conflict. We did not join them till like 8-9 days later after we left, doing so for: RA locked up the stations and everything we had in them before we even pulled out. Declared us Neutral at first, fired on us and later put us to KOS and during the entire time not a single Ghost pilot fired on RA as the Ghost leaders was trying to find a peaceful outcome. RA is getting what it deserves for being beligerant and disrespectful of other people. RA's money will run out sooner or later and it will be your pilots that will be getting tired of the fight. I do respect a few select people in RA but the regime in all is corrupt, disrespecting, greedy and bullyish. After RA leadership known That rua closed stantions for Ghost...i said what the matter? give them access to stantions and let them leave in peace...it was did..... so don t tell me tales about you could not take you staff. after 3 ghost came to 8\10 comlex and start fire at our council member talking that russian are bull** he set you - . just try to make an effort answer only 2 questions who called you in a cache? and did promise you anything? i think its your and his fault. that you were not able to understand situation but I personally disbelieve in this bull**......the weak always searched supports from strong ones and when it was not present they ,left them to other strong -lv- quickly crushed you and broke. while RA gangs were in detorid -gw- scalding etc

Naurhir	Posted - 2006.06.03 15:36:00 - [61] Originally by: Omeega STFU ET I LEARNT YOU ALL ABOUT EVE. <3
Vashi Dokumentu	Posted - 2006.06.03 16:09:00 - [62] Originally by: Heinky Nice to see all the whiners in this thread. The coalition of "we cant do it alone" alliances crying because RA play the war with much better tactics. If u cant handle setting up more pos,s then RA just deal with it. Doesnt matter if RA dont show up to fight with a single ship or not, if they are taking back their stations by spamming pos,s its a victory for them and a very good tactical move. Go RA !!!!! Long time ago, i thought, what BE is just a bunch of loosers with stabbed low slots. But after some time passed, i relized what I`M looser, who wasnt able to catch them and killed them. I didnt had a chance to say that but, good job BE.
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.06.03 16:48:00 - [63] Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 03/06/2006 16:48:26 Originally by: Lord Wimbishi You (RA)forced Ghost to change sides by treating us so damn poorly when and after we came to Cache to help RA. We are bad babysitters, sorry.
Tao Han	Posted - 2006.06.03 20:50:00 - [64] At the start of the war it was a handful of pilots vs the Red Machine and everyone was praising the little guys (now called The Coalition), now that RA has lost a lot of numbers (deadweight? Dont really know) and the coalition is outnumbering them the opinions turned quickly. Now The Coalition is the evil empire and RA the rebel scum :p And I can understand some of the frustration that Coalition pilots express here, fighting RA is not very fun largely because of the timezone difference and the now changed public opinions on these boards. Spamming towers sucks, especially if they get spammed while your forces are either at work or sleeping. If the usage of the carrier overload really was used I would like to see actions taken against RA, its not the first time I've heard about them using exploits and I can guarantee you that its not exactly a morale boost for the opposite side.
FdD Banshee	Posted - 2006.06.04 10:41:00 - [65] Well during the last weeks there have been a lot of hate posts against RA and i personally dont like to see that. We all have to keep one thing in mind, first of all its just a game. Everyone got his own way to play this game. If you dont like it dont fight 'em. Sure the way RA is playing this game is not really entertaining for their opponents but that should not be a reason to seed a lot of hate. I'm sure that among our enemies there are a lot of honorable players and also players that some ppl started to hate. But thats should always stay out of the forums because personal opinions are not for public hate threads. If you dont like someone send him an eve mail and express your feelings and always keep in mind that on the other side of the monitor there is a human beeing. Anyway thats are my two cents, heads up and keep fighting. At the end its not the words that are talking, its the guns that speak.
Basilii	Posted - 2006.06.04 10:44:00 - [66] FdD - good post and respect .
Papa Digger	Posted - 2006.06.04 14:12:00 - [67] Originally by: Tao Han At the start of the war it was a handful of pilots vs the Red Machine and everyone was praising the little guys (now called The Coalition), now that RA has lost a lot of numbers (deadweight? Dont really know) and the coalition is outnumbering them the opinions turned quickly. Now The Coalition is the evil empire and RA the rebel scum :p Spamming towers sucks, especially if they get spammed while your forces are either at work or sleeping Maybe you need less smacking on the forum? Respect your enemies, or one day you lose respect even from friends. PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions?
Roma Augustus	Posted - 2006.06.04 14:30:00 - [68] Quote: RA's money will run out sooner or later and it will be your pilots that will be getting tired of the fight. Not with the way the war is being waged against RA. A good chunk of RA's income is from running complexes right under the noses of other alliances. Complexes all over the south. Its perplexing that alliances not only ignore the potental revenue for themselves but for the most part, do little to stop RA farming their resources for a war against them.
eLLioTT wave	Posted - 2006.06.04 15:33:00 - [69] I was saddened today to see RA camping Jita. I think this is a new low for them, and it is sad to see what was once an empire resort to common empire greifing :( RIP
Captain Logoffski	Posted - 2006.06.04 15:35:00 - [70] Rumor has it that LV alone has deployed 180 towers this weekend, and the other coalition alliances have also been deploying them in extremely large numbers.

Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.06.04 17:02:00 - [71] Originally by: Papa Digger PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions? Papa, and so you finally realise everything I said back in November is true. There is a stalemate in the South-East right now, and I am not sure what will change things. Rest assured, we are exploring avenues and deciding strategy as I type this. Those who don't adapt, die. RA have adapted, now can the Coalition? Time will tell. This 3D game of poker goes on, and when your opponent turns a full house, you had better hope that your next hand is better . Rovers Chronicles
Tao Han	Posted - 2006.06.05 08:52:00 - [72] Edited by: Tao Han on 05/06/2006 08:52:43 Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: Tao Han At the start of the war it was a handful of pilots vs the Red Machine and everyone was praising the little guys (now called The Coalition), now that RA has lost a lot of numbers (deadweight? Dont really know) and the coalition is outnumbering them the opinions turned quickly. Now The Coalition is the evil empire and RA the rebel scum :p Spamming towers sucks, especially if they get spammed while your forces are either at work or sleeping Maybe you need less smacking on the forum? Respect your enemies, or one day you lose respect even from friends. PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions? My apologies if that came out as smack. My main point was that the public opinions on this board has changed alot since the war started. RA has a strategy that works, it isnt very fun to fight but it works and you deserve respect for that. I'm also quite certain that its the public opinion that stated tyhat RA was dead, not the coalition. I think they knew better than to asume that. As long as there is a will there is a way.
Perpello	Posted - 2006.06.05 09:04:00 - [73] Originally by: Papa Digger PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions? That's so ironic, being said by someone from Red Alliance.
Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.05 09:35:00 - [74] Originally by: eLLioTT wave I was saddened today to see RA camping Jita. I think this is a new low for them, and it is sad to see what was once an empire resort to common empire greifing :( RIP You find? I, personally love them for doing it Fly aaaaall the way to Jita for a new ship is a bugger At least with RA camping there I also get a kill before I leave \o/ \o/ Generally speaking about tactics: RA are a lot better at pvp now than 5 months ago when the war started. They always had old characters with many SPs but in fleet pvp (IMO) the majority of them were clueless. Now with 5 months tuition fees paid () they are obviously better (also shedding A LOT of dead weight I think). The problem however lies in those first 1-2 months of war when they lost HUGE amounts of ships and recources for an absolute minimum of kills. This is I think what makes them today play the game so overcautiously to the point, some would say, of cowardice (not your gangs MACTEP -usually-). I think, however, that perhaps now RA has enough trained people to be able to engage in actual fleet battles (next to POS dont count) and I would wellcome a change of tactics on their behalf. It would make for better fun for everybody and I promise -v- will again become active against RA if you show you are up to it (btw for those that dont know: less than 30% of -v- actively wars with RA over the past 1 month). About "lets hold hands" and "show respect" posts in this and the previous thread: I dont show respect just cause its the nice thing to do. I show respect to those who earn it and that makes it count for more doesnt it? I respected NBSI (as they once were) from day 1 of our wars. -MC- after the first week (all the cov-ops surveillance ****** me off a bit), not too many other entities I am sorry to say. From RA: ALTZ and CWRA were always nice fights but they are gone (?) now. From those left I have great respect for some individuals: MACTEP of course, 2-3 of their great ceptor pilots (you know who :) ), even ATLUS for great skills (thout snipping is lame the man is a leader at his chosen profession). As a total however RA are A LONG way off gaining my respect. Some "Coallition" pilots are impressed it seems from POS spamming ability and "tactics". Thats their pprerogative. I wouldnt even be impressed by that if it won somebody all of 0.0 space in EVE. Flavour of the week seems to be lovey lovey by some ... dont expect the rest of us to jump in bed with you just cause you had your boobs done
Rufus Scheggia	Posted - 2006.06.05 10:04:00 - [75] Personally I'm bored to read that RA have tactic. I don't think that to use the carrier exploit is a tactic. I don't think that to shot at bugged POSes ( online POSes with no force field ) in P7 is a tactic. It's sad, but while a lot of good RA pilots is giving me a lot of fun engaging in Cache, a lot of them have not the same fair play. Just my 2 cents as a EVE player, not as a CEO of one of -LV- corp.
Papa Digger	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:06:00 - [76] Originally by: Perpello Originally by: Papa Digger PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions? That's so ironic, being said by someone from Red Alliance. I join RA only about 2 month ago.. when Coalition start to conquier Scalding Pass. So i saw how many mistakes make RA in protection of their regions. But I hope that leaders take a good lesson from losses, and will be smarter in future.
Evil Nurse	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: Perpello Originally by: Papa Digger PS. Sov. system is a part of gameplay.. if u can't defend all your systems 24/7 then maybe you don't need so many regions? That's so ironic, being said by someone from Red Alliance. I join RA only about 2 month ago.. when Coalition start to conquier Scalding Pass. So i saw how many mistakes make RA in protection of their regions. But I hope that leaders take a good lesson from losses, and will be smarter in future. About the future, what will RA do after they'll be obliterated completely? Let's face it, the coalition numbers growing with the recent additions will speed up the RA demize process and will ensure that even undocking will be impossible, let alone any decent resistance.
Terradoct	Posted - 2006.06.05 19:11:00 - [78] Originally by: Evil Nurse About the future, what will RA do after they'll be obliterated completely? Let's face it, the coalition numbers growing with the recent additions will speed up the RA demize process and will ensure that even undocking will be impossible, let alone any decent resistance. bring it on
Stybbe	Posted - 2006.06.05 23:00:00 - [79] r u a real warrior ? GO POST
Fiona Appletart	Posted - 2006.06.05 23:37:00 - [80] Originally by: Al Haquis Originally by: Bonek Originally by: Idium Lord So RED have taken back C-J... it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station. But they hold the sys :) Kudos Red keep biting back I would think a BoB member would know better then to promote people who use known exploits (i.e. carrier overload?) to fuel and move the parts for those pos's. "Wah wah no they didn't rabble rabble" How do you explain the constant fuel/ammo supply coming in with the massive alliance force there, which everyone has attested to. C-J, yeah, good job, exploiting. We'll see how this goes come the 6th.

Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2006.06.06 00:14:00 - [81] Wowsa ... Wait, lets ALL load up a couple of carriers with billions and trillions of m¦ of fuel, weapons and POS towers and go visit people in one trip, then wait 5 days to see what happens. No need for a fleet or comabt skills required. Bollox is all that I can say ...... -- Mini Skill Planner
Amerame	Posted - 2006.06.06 00:23:00 - [82] You can't load tower in overload, fueling pos even without carrier bug is trivial if you have a few of them. If your plan is to wait for the PoS to go offline, get a few good books. By the way, what about you remove most of your POS in conquerable system, since anyway RA won't be able to deploy 20 large pos in a few hours without carrier bug ? There's nothing to fear, really.
Crypt	Posted - 2006.06.06 00:37:00 - [83] Using spies to offline all of an alliances POSes is so much more honorable than using a carrier to bring them in and set them up...uh huh. Pot, kettle, black?
Fiona Appletart	Posted - 2006.06.06 02:46:00 - [84] Originally by: Crypt Using spies to offline all of an alliances POSes is so much more honorable than using a carrier to bring them in and set them up...uh huh. Pot, kettle, black? One is legit game play, which could very well be you ****ed off one of your own members... One is the willing explotation of a known bug which shouldn't be there to start with. Oh my, the kettle is alone now, isn't it?
Fiona Appletart	Posted - 2006.06.07 03:44:00 - [85] Has anyone had word on RA fuel supplies since the carrier patch?
Orin Fatch	Posted - 2006.06.07 04:12:00 - [86] Bit soon i think, if they used it after they where warned, they probly would have made it well worth, and stocked up in mass.
Aramova	Posted - 2006.06.07 06:21:00 - [87] Edited by: Aramova on 07/06/2006 06:21:49 Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 06/06/2006 00:34:54 You can't load tower in overload, fueling pos even without carrier bug is trivial if you have a few of them. If your plan is to wait for the PoS to go offline, get a few good books. Yes, you could. Open your Corp hanger array, drag a 1m3 item into your cargo hold, jetcan it, then drag directly from your corp hanger array into the jetcan. Anything 5,000m3 in size could be moved directly to a jetcan, including unlimited stacks of ammo, fuel, and POS modules to be deployed by someone who flew in with an interceptor and switched to an iteron that was in the Carrier's corp hanger array. Or drag directly from the carrier into the tower it's self. The bug let the carrier pilot take all they wanted out of the carrier, but there was a special way of putting it in, which has been fixed, thank god. (I only talk about this now, since it has been fixed. I do not promote the use a exploits and bugs, but I do want people to understand how powerful old bugs where) -- signature nerfed due to 700 bytes :(
King Dave	Posted - 2006.06.07 07:20:00 - [88] Everyone says oh loot at ra's 400 members, im not saying they arnt quality members, but think how many there were originally :\|. After a month or two so many corps and members left ra it was a joke, they even formed a whole new alliance just to shoot us in empire, so that the ra that didn't want to put up a fight could mine/npc in peace, they now only have 400 members left because we forced the ones that werent good enough to leave or run away to empire, and lets not also forget the hundreds of alt corps that they have still gg ra, this pos shooting is aweful boring. Also a revelation full of stuff is nowhere near a carrier 10x more full of stuff, and we all know they dont have many revelations... ------------------------------- don't speak english... f1, f2, alt-q!
Mochalatte	Posted - 2006.06.07 10:32:00 - [89] Originally by: Fiona Appletart Originally by: Al Haquis Originally by: Bonek Originally by: Idium Lord So RED have taken back C-J... it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station. But they hold the sys :) Kudos Red keep biting back I would think a BoB member would know better then to promote people who use known exploits (i.e. carrier overload?) to fuel and move the parts for those pos's. "Wah wah no they didn't rabble rabble" How do you explain the constant fuel/ammo supply coming in with the massive alliance force there, which everyone has attested to. C-J, yeah, good job, exploiting. We'll see how this goes come the 6th. i would think colition would just shut the heck up already. you know you sound like anyone else claiming people are exploiting? your right about one thing. that is if ra still holds the system week from now then you guys really do suck. you put it like we will see if they can hang without their carrier bugs. i say it like this . lets see how the you do now without out an excuse of oh my gosh they are exploiters please ban them. you wonder why opinion has changed over time. the ** you spew out of your mouths on daily basis should tell you just that. Quote:** metal dude [052506] You people canÆt dictate to others not to have an opinion on public topics.
Burzon	Posted - 2006.06.07 11:41:00 - [90] Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 @Mochalatte, even if you are surely encouraged to voice your opinion, am i disagreeing with the style of your voicing, especially as i cannot see your involvement in this conflict. Likes and dislikes can be formulated in polite and mature language. If you think you can set a timeframe within we need to take back C-J6 in order to not be on your "they s*" list then let it be so. Regarding OP¦s topic i can personally say the following: Facts: 1. Red Alliance did claim C-J6 2. Red Alliance are conducting gank squad operations into allied forces territory 3. Red Alliance surely learned to increase their effectiveness in battle 4. Red Alliance failed to accept reasonable terms for a peace treaty weeks ago. 5. Allied Forces are strengthening their hold on Cache by the day. 6. Red Alliance is not interrupting Allied Forces operations at all. At specific times you have a certain risk travelling through our space, while at other times you could use your autopilot. 7. C-J6 will be dealt with as soon as logistics and strategy has been finalized. Finally i can say the following after months of fighting Red Alliance: Some RA pilots surely deserve respect and some are very skilled PvP pilots these days. Where RA failed and still fails is to amend their agenda to fit the realities in todays south-eastern regions. RA leadership rejected terms for peace while placing totally insane demands. If RA would be getting their diplomacy and leadership right, then things might have been way less painful for both parties. In the end they did choose their way and so did the Coalition. We are very determined on our goals and even if we are suffering small setbacks from time to time (C-J6) can we claim success on the global scale. Nuff said Burzon CEO PAX Interstellar Proud Member of -V-**

Gene Starjumper	Posted - 2006.06.07 15:58:00 - [91] Originally by: Burzon Facts: 1. Red Alliance did claim C-J6 Nuff said Burzon This is the only objective fact. Everything else is purely subjective opinion open to interpretation of any forum monkey in here.
Karl Shade	Posted - 2006.06.07 16:19:00 - [92] Originally by: Mochalatte Edited by: Mochalatte on 07/06/2006 10:54:50 Originally by: Fiona Appletart Originally by: Al Haquis Originally by: Bonek Originally by: Idium Lord So RED have taken back C-J... it took them 20 player owned stations to get SOV and 5 days to take the station. But they hold the sys :) Kudos Red keep biting back I would think a BoB member would know better then to promote people who use known exploits (i.e. carrier overload?) to fuel and move the parts for those pos's. "Wah wah no they didn't rabble rabble" How do you explain the constant fuel/ammo supply coming in with the massive alliance force there, which everyone has attested to. C-J, yeah, good job, exploiting. We'll see how this goes come the 6th. i would think colition would yust shut the heck up already. you know you sound like anyone else claiming people are exploiting? your right about one thing. that is if ra still holds the system week from now then you guys really do suck. you put it like we will see if they can hang without their carrier bugs. i say it like this . lets see how the you do now without out an excuse of oh my gosh they are exploiters please ban them. you wonder why opinion has changed over time. the **** you dribble out of your mouths on daily basis should tell you just that. I¦m sorry, you¦re not getting a fanboi badge from the coalition either. -
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.06.07 17:00:00 - [93] They have the station, we have to take it back. It is as simple as that. Carrier & Fighter Sales
HatePeace LoveWar	Posted - 2006.06.07 17:06:00 - [94] They have the station, we need to take it back. It's not any more complex than that. Carrier & Fighter Sales
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.06.08 07:10:00 - [95] Edited by: Constantinee on 08/06/2006 07:10:20 In response towards Genes Post. In no way offensive. Originally by: Burzon Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 2. Red Alliance are conducting gank squad operations into allied forces territory 5. Allied Forces are strengthening their hold on Cache by the day. As for fact number 2. Travel along the n-rael to 1v- pipe every night after 1:00 eve time and see just how true that fact is. fact or opinion . FACT As for fact number 5. look whats been happening to u guys in p7- the last 3 days. nuff said right there buddy. Purley simple. The only facts you are looking for are towards Red Alliance. You completly neglect the bad happening to you guys all day. And if u want even more proof of how bad your situation is at this point then please have a look at this.Linkage Where do you see red alliance on that? Taking c-j is the only good that has happend with u guys the last month. The map shows it, burzon tells it, now i hope you realize it. Good day. Const P/S Smooth job there HPLW :P -V- Comedian Want a Cheap sig?
ItakeItDeep	Posted - 2006.06.08 07:18:00 - [96] Originally by: Evil Thug As for insult. For 1.5 years, i can`t remember enemy, who engaged us in odd numbers \ without tactical advantage. Thats a lie, aks sky about the NAF frigs of DOOM !!!
NAFnist	Posted - 2006.06.08 07:19:00 - [97] Originally by: ItakeItDeep Originally by: Evil Thug As for insult. For 1.5 years, i can`t remember enemy, who engaged us in odd numbers \ without tactical advantage. Thats a lie, aks sky about the NAF frigs of DOOM !!! ffs alt
Burzon	Posted - 2006.06.08 07:27:00 - [98] Originally by: Gene Starjumper Originally by: Burzon Facts: 1. Red Alliance did claim C-J6 Nuff said Burzon This is the only objective fact. Everything else is purely subjective opinion open to interpretation of any forum monkey in here. Sorry Gene, if you think that i am a "forum monkey" then you should up your intel as soon as possible. If you think that our operations are being stopped by RA having taken C-J6 then you are invited to come to our space and check for yourself. Regarding RA¦s lack of leadership sense and rejecting reasonable peace terms i would like to give you an example: "If you had Cache with 4 Alliances warring and threating to take it from you and you were offered to keep Cache with access to Insmother and its resources, what would you do ?" Well, one thing you would not do is to answer: "We want access to all coalition space, resources, stations and complexes. Mining, docking and hunting rights for all coalition regions and in addition half of Scalding Pass". Do you think this is a reasonable answer ? Which alliance would have said yes to these terms ? Answer me that Gene. Cheers Burzon CEO PAX Interstellar Proud Member of -V-
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2006.06.08 08:03:00 - [99] That was a hard thread to read, 4 pages of he said she said and chest beating. Its gonna be fun to see what the actualities are down south, but from early ERA reports it seems the resistance certainly exists, but is fairly obvious in its format. The next week will be very telling. KIA Piccys
Sextus Licinius	Posted - 2006.06.08 08:06:00 - [100] Maybe RA felt that they could manage to fight 283472 to 1 odds. I have seen this "i'm a god, i'm the best, i'm immortal" kind of attidude, but i'm afraid none of this stories have a happy ending for the dilusional people. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"

DAUNGA	Posted - 2006.06.08 11:07:00 - [101] whatever
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2006.06.08 11:20:00 - [102] /me waves Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.06.08 11:35:00 - [103] Originally by: Fiona Appletart Originally by: Crypt Using spies to offline all of an alliances POSes is so much more honorable than using a carrier to bring them in and set them up...uh huh. Pot, kettle, black? One is legit game play, which could very well be you ****ed off one of your own members... One is the willing explotation of a known bug which shouldn't be there to start with. Oh my, the kettle is alone now, isn't it? Well, if I was GM and there had been proof in the logs for abusing the carrier bug, I would have unanchored all poses and structures and moved them to a station in empire. Wonder, why the GMs don't do something like that. ( just as a remark, not meant as whining )
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:31:00 - [104] Originally by: Plutoinum Originally by: Fiona Appletart Originally by: Crypt Using spies to offline all of an alliances POSes is so much more honorable than using a carrier to bring them in and set them up...uh huh. Pot, kettle, black? One is legit game play, which could very well be you **ed off one of your own members... One is the willing explotation of a known bug which shouldn't be there to start with. Oh my, the kettle is alone now, isn't it? Well, if I was GM and there had been proof in the logs for abusing the carrier bug, I would have unanchored all poses and structures and moved them to a station in empire. Wonder, why the GMs don't do something like that. ( just as a remark, not meant as whining ) Because it emotionally hurts more when they are popped? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!**
Archonon	Posted - 2006.06.08 12:32:00 - [105] Originally by: Plutoinum Well, if I was GM and there had been proof in the logs for abusing the carrier bug, I would have unanchored all poses and structures and moved them to a station in empire. Wonder, why the GMs don't do something like that. ( just as a remark, not meant as whining ) But u're just a -v- allowed to die ig and cry on forum as usual. _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:04:00 - [106] Originally by: Plutoinum Well, if I was GM and there had been proof in the logs for abusing the carrier bug, I would have unanchored all poses and structures and moved them to a station in empire. Wonder, why the GMs don't do something like that. ( just as a remark, not meant as whining ) Because then coalition POS'es would have been moved as well. ( just as a remark, not meant as an accusation ) _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
gans Banderlog	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:06:00 - [107] Originally by: Plutoinum .......Well, if I was GM and there had been proof in the logs for abusing the carrier bug, I would have unanchored all poses and structures and moved them to a station in empire. Wonder, why the GMs don't do something like that. ..... wow. I need to check urgently.... wow! Coalition POSes just arriveing to empire! No place to store!
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.08 14:52:00 - [108] lol, here we go again, RA exploit, leave it a while, then accuse coalition of the ones that do it. Coalition vs RA threads need to be locked on sight [Art of War][- V -]
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.08 15:35:00 - [109] Pepperami, you got it totally wrong: Coalition exploits, then blaims exploits on RA, then blaims RA on blaiming coalition exploiting... _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.08 15:48:00 - [110] Originally by: Pastora Pepperami, you got it totally wrong: Coalition exploits, then blaims exploits on RA, then blaims RA on blaiming coalition exploiting... lol Let's not carry this bit on. Whoever exploits on either side should just get banned, rather than it being tollerated by GMs. [Art of War][- V -]

MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.08 16:06:00 - [111] Edited by: MACTEP on 08/06/2006 16:13:24 Edited by: MACTEP on 08/06/2006 16:11:28 Edited by: MACTEP on 08/06/2006 16:07:42 Originally by: Burzon Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 @Mochalatte, even if you are surely encouraged to voice your opinion, am i disagreeing with the style of your voicing, especially as i cannot see your involvement in this conflict. Likes and dislikes can be formulated in polite and mature language. If you think you can set a timeframe within we need to take back C-J6 in order to not be on your "they s*" list then let it be so. Regarding OP¦s topic i can personally say the following: Facts:** 1. Red Alliance did claim C-J6 2. Red Alliance are conducting gank squad operations into allied forces territory 3. Red Alliance surely learned to increase their effectiveness in battle 4. Red Alliance failed to accept reasonable terms for a peace treaty weeks ago. 5. Allied Forces are strengthening their hold on Cache by the day. 6. Red Alliance is not interrupting Allied Forces operations at all. At specific times you have a certain risk travelling through our space, while at other times you could use your autopilot. 7. C-J6 will be dealt with as soon as logistics and strategy has been finalized. Finally i can say the following after months of fighting Red Alliance: Some RA pilots surely deserve respect and some are very skilled PvP pilots these days. Where RA failed and still fails is to amend their agenda to fit the realities in todays south-eastern regions. RA leadership rejected terms for peace while placing totally insane demands. If RA would be getting their diplomacy and leadership right, then things might have been way less painful for both parties. In the end they did choose their way and so did the Coalition. We are very determined on our goals and even if we are suffering small setbacks from time to time (C-J6) can we claim success on the global scale. Nuff said Burzon - The end game has begun. The last corp who could hold their heads up and say they fought for RA left last week. When CWRA washed their hands and left you, the writing was on the wall. Brick by brick, we are dismantling the area in the south east that was once held by RA. Your last system in 0.0 had sovereignty removed tonight. The 18 POS you threw up in C-J6MT will be removed, the complex runners will be killed one by one, and your carebear alt corps are being moved on too. All it would have taken was a little humility and the ability to talk to others. You chose wrong RA. To the pilots who fought well, well fought. To your leadership, hang your heads in shame. - Rover Vitesse posted it 3+ weeks ago. i did not saw how he was "removing 18 poses in c-j" i saw only lv and -v- dreads so why such people posts such posts? guys plz don t become forum prattlers "4. Red Alliance failed to accept reasonable terms for a peace treaty weeks ago." peace???lol "travel rights. docking rights" 1. RA has travel rights.....2. most of us don t need your docking rights. so you can offer these terms to ERA \ GHosts and OSS ))))or yet to anybody who will throw out from a north.... D2 breaks up alliances ....after it LV collects them ) You want endless war... so you have it..while we will wait judgement day ) we have enough time ...while smb ll need your 6 regions which you will be not able to defend if 2-3 average alliances will strike you ) and to wait i think not so long ) at the same time RA will unite round itself all friends and ll strike when you ll be not ready for it.... simply there is nobody who can organize it all at this moment....but all changes in course of time ) and while be happy... and brag to each other that you are mighty and invincible )
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.06.08 16:11:00 - [112] smack smack smack. Well I¦m bored off all this, and i think many more are this. I dont even ra think it is funny longer. So quit the bull** mask and cheastbeating. Lets get wasted instead and camp JITA Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and** your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.08 17:25:00 - [113] Originally by: MACTEP Edited by: MACTEP on 08/06/2006 17:04:13 Originally by: Burzon Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 stuff Burzon stuff No offense but a major offensive by alliances other than RA would be for me personally a very wellcome development. Not that I dont like fighting you MACTEP but RA only has 1-5 MACTEP lvl peeps and a 6 month old war that is these days 90% camping and POS shooting is B O R I N G. If you can arrange an alliance or two to aid you (well perhaps not BoB uh) I would certainly wellcome that personally. [Mind you not more POS spammers and anchoring superheroes... some pvp dudes for a chance pls] Warning: the above is a personal albeit honest opinion as Crellion appears on eve-o (no roles info) not to be confused with -v-FC opinions.
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.06.08 18:34:00 - [114] Edited by: Constantinee on 08/06/2006 18:34:29 Originally by: Crellion Originally by: MACTEP Edited by: MACTEP on 08/06/2006 17:04:13 Originally by: Burzon Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 stuff Burzon stuff No offense but a major offensive by alliances other than RA would be for me personally a very wellcome development. Not that I dont like fighting you MACTEP but RA only has 1-5 MACTEP lvl peeps and a 6 month old war that is these days 90% camping and POS shooting is B O R I N G. If you can arrange an alliance or two to aid you (well perhaps not BoB uh) I would certainly wellcome that personally. [Mind you not more POS spammers and anchoring superheroes... some pvp dudes for a chance pls] Warning: the above is a personal albeit honest opinion as Crellion appears on eve-o (no roles info) not to be confused with -v-FC opinions. you could not have put it into better perspective. MACTEP this war is getting boring and i know u damn well agree with us here. All we see is 4 or 5 ra bs's sit 100km off a gate popping incoming shuttles. What happend to the fleet battles we had in the beginning of the war? -V- Comedian Want a Cheap sig?
Ivan Stang	Posted - 2006.06.08 18:47:00 - [115] Originally by: Constantinee MACTEP this war is getting boring ... What happend to the fleet battles we had in the beginning of the war? Maybe what happened to them is you guys started outnumbering RA by at least 5-1 so they stopped being in RA's interest to engage in them? If you're bored why don't you set some of your Coalition allies to neutral? That should spice things up a bit.
Bazman	Posted - 2006.06.08 18:58:00 - [116] Originally by: Ivan Stang Originally by: Constantinee MACTEP this war is getting boring ... What happend to the fleet battles we had in the beginning of the war? Maybe what happened to them is you guys started outnumbering RA by at least 5-1 so they stopped being in RA's interest to engage in them? If you're bored why don't you set some of your Coalition allies to neutral? That should spice things up a bit. V IS NOW -10! dur ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.06.08 19:01:00 - [117] Originally by: MACTEP - The end game has begun. The last corp who could hold their heads up and say they fought for RA left last week. When CWRA washed their hands and left you, the writing was on the wall. Brick by brick, we are dismantling the area in the south east that was once held by RA. Your last system in 0.0 had sovereignty removed tonight. The 18 POS you threw up in C-J6MT will be removed, the complex runners will be killed one by one, and your carebear alt corps are being moved on too. All it would have taken was a little humility and the ability to talk to others. You chose wrong RA. To the pilots who fought well, well fought. To your leadership, hang your heads in shame. - Rover Vitesse - CHIMP, posted it 3+ weeks ago. i did not saw how he was "removing 18 poses in c-j" i saw only lv and -v- dreads so why such people posts such posts? MACTEP, if you are going to quote me, please quote in context and then pull apart correctly. When has We ever been confused with He. How we assemble our fleets and run our strategy is up to us...you've been fighting us long enough I would be surprised if when you see most of us in local you can make a good guess on how our ships are fitted and what ships we are flying. Your "divide and conquer post" game is weak. Take a look back to Period Basis War and see how FA did it, you might learn a little about propaganda, their "divide and conquer" game was strong. Anyway, see you in game and we can dance again. This thread is so hot it should have a government health warning. Rovers Chronicles
Ivan Stang	Posted - 2006.06.08 19:01:00 - [118] Originally by: Bazman V IS NOW -10! The point is, if you're going to continue to be NAP'd with everyone else in the Southeast, stop whining about being bored all the time.
fisty	Posted - 2006.06.09 00:58:00 - [119] go red alliance kill em all Ciao
fisty	Posted - 2006.06.09 01:13:00 - [120] Originally by: Constantinee Edited by: Constantinee on 08/06/2006 07:10:20 In response towards Genes Post. In no way offensive. Originally by: Burzon Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 2. Red Alliance are conducting gank squad operations into allied forces territory 5. Allied Forces are strengthening their hold on Cache by the day. As for fact number 2. Travel along the n-rael to 1v- pipe every night after 1:00 eve time and see just how true that fact is. fact or opinion . FACT As for fact number 5. look whats been happening to u guys in p7- the last 3 days. nuff said right there buddy. Purley simple. The only facts you are looking for are towards Red Alliance. You completly neglect the bad happening to you guys all day. And if u want even more proof of how bad your situation is at this point then please have a look at this.Linkage Where do you see red alliance on that? Taking c-j is the only good that has happend with u guys the last month. The map shows it, burzon tells it, now i hope you realize it. Good day. Const P/S Smooth job there HPLW :P showing that map linkage is just plain stupid dude...u see fountain claimed by bob...dont see many bobs around fountain, just as an example as to your so called proof is just...well not ome hehe Ciao

Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.09 02:05:00 - [121] Originally by: Ivan Stang Originally by: Constantinee MACTEP this war is getting boring ... What happend to the fleet battles we had in the beginning of the war? Maybe what happened to them is you guys started outnumbering RA by at least 5-1 so they stopped being in RA's interest to engage in them? If you're bored why don't you set some of your Coalition allies to neutral? That should spice things up a bit. No its not that we started outnumbering. We flew only -v- fleets Dec - Jan and there were nice fights. We did the same Feb March April and we seldom got an equal numbers (or even with us slightly outnumbered) engagement from RA. More often we were introduced to the famous loggofski. We have stopped flying -v- fleets now tbh... too much effort for an engagement once every motnh or so. -v- pilot for the past 2 moths have been flying solo or in 2-5 man gangs. Only way to indulge overconfidence and get an engagement to harvest a few kills Since you were asking... Bazman is now set to +10 \o/
Dak Torin	Posted - 2006.06.09 23:35:00 - [122] go RA!!! woowooowowow
Talos Darkhart	Posted - 2006.06.10 00:16:00 - [123] Say what you like about RA but let's be honest no one can find and abuse exploits and crap game mechanics like them while still having time to ***** 10/10 complexs with alt corps. at then end of the day RA and there alt's are a blight on EvE and the quicker they give up move on and just get on with what there good at(Farming 10/10's all day) the better
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.06.10 00:33:00 - [124] Kudos to red they keep fighting
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.06.10 08:13:00 - [125] Originally by: fisty Originally by: Constantinee Edited by: Constantinee on 08/06/2006 07:10:20 In response towards Genes Post. In no way offensive. Originally by: Burzon Edited by: Burzon on 07/06/2006 11:42:01 2. Red Alliance are conducting gank squad operations into allied forces territory 5. Allied Forces are strengthening their hold on Cache by the day. As for fact number 2. Travel along the n-rael to 1v- pipe every night after 1:00 eve time and see just how true that fact is. fact or opinion . FACT As for fact number 5. look whats been happening to u guys in p7- the last 3 days. nuff said right there buddy. Purley simple. The only facts you are looking for are towards Red Alliance. You completly neglect the bad happening to you guys all day. And if u want even more proof of how bad your situation is at this point then please have a look at this.Linkage Where do you see red alliance on that? Taking c-j is the only good that has happend with u guys the last month. The map shows it, burzon tells it, now i hope you realize it. Good day. Const P/S Smooth job there HPLW :P showing that map linkage is just plain stupid dude...u see fountain claimed by bob...dont see many bobs around fountain, just as an example as to your so called proof is just...well not ome hehe hey man wtf does bob have to do with what we are doing right now? nothing. and yeah so what u never eally see bob in fountain but its completley different in cache. u always see ghost and LV dont u?. yeah go down there and check for yourselfe mate. My proof is legit mate. Unless your where the fights are happening u will never understand it. -V- Comedian Want a Cheap sig?
Maule	Posted - 2006.06.10 08:19:00 - [126] was in cache yesterday and there were loads of lv and co. and saw some era dudes aswell
MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.10 09:33:00 - [127] Originally by: Maule was in cache yesterday and there were loads of lv and co. and saw some era dudes aswell ye i see them too ..on stantions as usual)
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.10 09:34:00 - [128] Originally by: fisty showing that map linkage is just plain stupid dude...u see fountain claimed by bob...dont see many bobs around fountain, just as an example as to your so called proof is just...well not ome hehe Come do some npcing or mining or whatever you do in cache, its pretty deserted around p7- I hear....well deserted of RA posses anyway... Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Argumentative	Posted - 2006.06.10 10:31:00 - [129] Omg! RA Mining POS's are popping everywhere! With the coalition forces having >50% moon coverage in every system other than C-J6 in the east now, can RA really respond and take 'their' space back? Stay tuned!
Bazman	Posted - 2006.06.10 11:11:00 - [130] Originally by: Argumentative Omg! RA Mining POS's are popping everywhere! With the coalition forces having >50% moon coverage in every system other than C-J6 in the east now, can RA really respond and take 'their' space back? Stay tuned! Controversial! <3 Crellion, I'm going to set you to +6.25 standing! ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.

The Ratfink	Posted - 2006.06.10 11:33:00 - [131] Edited by: The Ratfink on 10/06/2006 11:33:52 Originally by: Bazman Originally by: Argumentative Omg! RA Mining POS's are popping everywhere! With the coalition forces having >50% moon coverage in every system other than C-J6 in the east now, can RA really respond and take 'their' space back? Stay tuned! Controversial! <3 Crellion, I'm going to set you to +6.25 standing! I set you to -10.0 you caber throwing tosser
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.06.10 11:36:00 - [132] Originally by: The Ratfink Edited by: The Ratfink on 10/06/2006 11:33:52 Originally by: Bazman Originally by: Argumentative Omg! RA Mining POS's are popping everywhere! With the coalition forces having >50% moon coverage in every system other than C-J6 in the east now, can RA really respond and take 'their' space back? Stay tuned! Controversial! <3 Crellion, I'm going to set you to +6.25 standing! I set you to -10.0 you caber throwing tosser Shutup, you low ping sniper boy!
Plutoinum	Posted - 2006.06.10 11:45:00 - [133] Originally by: Archonon But u're just a -v- allowed to die ig and cry on forum as usual. Ouch, that hurt, I recommend the book 'Flaming for dummies'.
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.10 13:06:00 - [134] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Originally by: The Ratfink Edited by: The Ratfink on 10/06/2006 11:33:52 Originally by: Bazman Originally by: Argumentative Omg! RA Mining POS's are popping everywhere! With the coalition forces having >50% moon coverage in every system other than C-J6 in the east now, can RA really respond and take 'their' space back? Stay tuned! Controversial! <3 Crellion, I'm going to set you to +6.25 standing! I set you to -10.0 you caber throwing tosser Shutup, you low ping sniper boy! all you ever use is the BAR Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.06.10 13:55:00 - [135] I rock with the BAR though!
amstaffuuu	Posted - 2006.06.10 15:00:00 - [136] Hmm i think you post to much ... yup you post to much forum w***3S
The Ratfink	Posted - 2006.06.10 15:10:00 - [137] Originally by: amstaffuuu Hmm i think you post to much ... yup you post to much forum w***3S JET
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.06.10 19:34:00 - [138] Originally by: FdD Banshee Well during the last weeks there have been a lot of hate posts against RA and i personally dont like to see that. We all have to keep one thing in mind, first of all its just a game. Everyone got his own way to play this game. If you dont like it dont fight 'em. Sure the way RA is playing this game is not really entertaining for their opponents but that should not be a reason to seed a lot of hate. I'm sure that among our enemies there are a lot of honorable players and also players that some ppl started to hate. But thats should always stay out of the forums because personal opinions are not for public hate threads. If you dont like someone send him an eve mail and express your feelings and always keep in mind that on the other side of the monitor there is a human beeing. Anyway thats are my two cents, heads up and keep fighting. At the end its not the words that are talking, its the guns that speak. Very Decent post and much respect for it. /me Tips hat off "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Burr	Posted - 2006.06.11 09:47:00 - [139] Originally by: amstaffuuu Hmm i think you post to much ... yup you post to much forum w**3S But you just did it yourself. I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.*
Komolov	Posted - 2006.06.13 21:23:00 - [140] Originally by: Lord Wimbishi We did not change sides. We stood a week of RA abuse, insults and hostility and didn't fire back. You (RA)forced Ghost to change sides by treating us so damn poorly when and after we came to Cache to help RA. <the rest of **** skipped> Tissue of lies everywhere here. Gebbels can be proud of you. --------------------

Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2006.06.13 22:02:00 - [141] Didnt this thread die? ------------------------- Ten thousand days in the fire...
Bazman	Posted - 2006.06.13 22:04:00 - [142] It did, but Komolov had to revive it with some weird flame involving a **** crazy ----- Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
mOo biatch	Posted - 2006.06.14 01:17:00 - [143] so how's the war going? who won? are there any RA controlled systems? from where does RA post on forums? are RA "freedom fighters" now?
Papa Digger	Posted - 2006.06.14 03:25:00 - [144] Originally by: mOo biatch so how's the war going? who won? are there any RA controlled systems? from where does RA post on forums? are RA "freedom fighters" now? 1. Boring, as usual. 287 day of the "last days of RA" 2. Crellion and LV won. 3. RA control C-J6 station and surrounding area, but in 2 days CHIMP move us out from system (don't know from which date this 2 days we should count ) 4. We prefer fight in space, not in forums. And we already surrender to Coalition forum warriors. 5. Yeah, we are freedom fighters. We come in Peace.
Aranin	Posted - 2006.06.14 03:43:00 - [145] lol
mOo biatch	Posted - 2006.06.14 06:44:00 - [146] Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: mOo biatch so how's the war going? who won? are there any RA controlled systems? from where does RA post on forums? are RA "freedom fighters" now? 1. Boring, as usual. 287 day of the "last days of RA" 2. Crellion and LV won. 3. RA control C-J6 station and surrounding area, but in 2 days CHIMP move us out from system (don't know from which date this 2 days we should count ) 4. We prefer fight in space, not in forums. And we already surrender to Coalition forum warriors. 5. Yeah, we are freedom fighters. We come in Peace. Thanks Papa Dig for this funny and true response, rare thingy in these forums :)
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.06.14 07:22:00 - [147] Originally by: mOo biatch Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: mOo biatch so how's the war going? who won? are there any RA controlled systems? from where does RA post on forums? are RA "freedom fighters" now? 1. Boring, as usual. 287 day of the "last days of RA" 2. Crellion and LV won. 3. RA control C-J6 station and surrounding area, but in 2 days CHIMP move us out from system (don't know from which date this 2 days we should count ) 4. We prefer fight in space, not in forums. And we already surrender to Coalition forum warriors. 5. Yeah, we are freedom fighters. We come in Peace. Thanks Papa Dig for this funny and true response, rare thingy in these forums :) If you know it to be true why did you have to post on the forums in the first place? :)))))))))))\|()))))))))))))
mOo biatch	Posted - 2006.06.14 07:33:00 - [148] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: mOo biatch Originally by: Papa Digger Originally by: mOo biatch so how's the war going? who won? are there any RA controlled systems? from where does RA post on forums? are RA "freedom fighters" now? 1. Boring, as usual. 287 day of the "last days of RA" 2. Crellion and LV won. 3. RA control C-J6 station and surrounding area, but in 2 days CHIMP move us out from system (don't know from which date this 2 days we should count ) 4. We prefer fight in space, not in forums. And we already surrender to Coalition forum warriors. 5. Yeah, we are freedom fighters. We come in Peace. Thanks Papa Dig for this funny and true response, rare thingy in these forums :) If you know it to be true why did you have to post on the forums in the first place? :)))))))))))\|())))))))))))) i have launched a flame bait because i was bored at work, it amuses me to see dead alliances claiming that they are still alive and kicking. To my surprise RA posted the above response which shut my ebil mouth and now i'll go play with messenger
Kuolematon	Posted - 2006.06.14 08:04:00 - [149] Only good Rus.. err Red Alliance player is dead player. This comes from a finnish person Unnerf Amarr! "Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:07:00 - [150] Originally by: Elve Sorrow I rock with the BAR though! that's cus i told him it rocks :P

M0535	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:23:00 - [151] /me yawns. To all those that have a genuine interest in how the war / conflict / disagreement / POS spamming competition is going, please feel free to fly around the regions in question. Forums just lead to smack and flaming, local is much more fun for that -------
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.14 11:25:00 - [152] Edited by: nickycakes on 14/06/2006 11:25:55 Originally by: Papa Digger 1. Nobody has actually claimed that RA is dead, but we like to parade on the forums repeating that we aren't infact dead, even though nobody has claimed that we are. 2. The war vs the angels in the 10/10 plexes is an ongoing struggle. 3. RA took a station that nobody really uses, including RA currently (considering local hovers around 0 most of the time). 4. We prefer fight in plex, as well as on forums. And we like to call Coalition members horrible smacktalkers when we're no better. 5. Yeah, we are freedom fighters. We are fighting to liberate the personal effects from nasty angel overseers fixed Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Orin Fatch	Posted - 2006.06.14 11:34:00 - [153] We have had some nice fights with RED. but this 'War' is rolling on very slowly. I wish everyone involved good luck in the upcoming battles. id like to say to the RED complex farmers using our space, expect gank squads coming your way, just cause your hard to get to, donÆt mean it aint possible. Also, to all the RED gangs who use loggin traps/camps, I hope you have some better tactics when we next meet I'm looking forward to this up coming month. Hopefully it will get more interesting. Less POS war, More Gank/Fleet Battles 4tw!
Papa Digger	Posted - 2006.06.14 11:44:00 - [154] Originally by: nickycakes Edited by: nickycakes on 14/06/2006 11:25:55 Originally by: Papa Digger 1. ...... 5. fixed "B" for idea, "D" for performance. Changing quote contents is a bad form in smacking.
Perpello	Posted - 2006.06.14 12:34:00 - [155] Originally by: Papa Digger "A" for idea, "A" for performance. Fixed.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.06.14 14:38:00 - [156] I do find a certain alliance losing multiple capital ships in a desperate last ditch attempt to control some complexes surprisingly amusing, tbh. --------
Rumata	Posted - 2006.06.14 14:48:00 - [157] Originally by: Orin Fatch id like to say to the RED complex farmers using our space, expect gank squads coming your way, just cause your hard to get to, donÆt mean it aint possible. "They live in my home, f*** my wife, eat my hamburgers but anyway we are uber coz we are zerg ! =)))))))"
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2006.06.14 14:49:00 - [158] What happened to fleet combat. You bring some ships, we bring some ships. Shoot each for a few hours a day over the course of a couple of weeks. Winner stays on. A war of attrition with weaponless POS's. Yermak would be so proud.
Joe Banana	Posted - 2006.06.14 14:53:00 - [159] In the meantime, RA keeps sponsoring every operation isk-wise by having [RAT.] farming the complex in e3 23/7. Wonder when someone will finally do something about it ?
Rumata	Posted - 2006.06.14 15:02:00 - [160] Originally by: Joe Banana In the meantime, RA keeps sponsoring every operation isk-wise by having [RAT.] farming the complex in e3 23/7. Wonder when someone will finally do something about it ? hi pity ASCN/AXE alt =))))))

MACTEP	Posted - 2006.06.14 17:14:00 - [161] Originally by: Joe Banana In the meantime, RA keeps sponsoring every operation isk-wise by having [RAT.] farming the complex in e3 23/7. Wonder when someone will finally do something about it ? rofl...
M0535	Posted - 2006.06.15 09:25:00 - [162] Why would they sponsor RAT to do it ?? I have seen members of RA do several complexes on a regular basis themselves... Dunno who was the RA gang leader, but thanks for the little fight we had in 46DP at the begining of the week, was nice to have a gang vs gang thing again. -------
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.06.15 09:56:00 - [163] Originally by: Joe Banana In the meantime, RA keeps sponsoring every operation isk-wise by having [RAT.] farming the complex in e3 23/7. Wonder when someone will finally do something about it ? 10/10 for entertainment --------- Dead already?
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.15 10:17:00 - [164] Originally by: The Enslaver I do find a certain alliance losing multiple capital ships in a desperate last ditch attempt to control some complexes surprisingly amusing, tbh. I do find a certain alliances losing zillions of their ships all over "their" space from the enemy (who, by the words of the very same certain alliances, only stay in complexes, logoff and run) and the same certain alliances calling in more and more people to help them in a desperate last ditch attempt to win smack war on the forums suprisingly amusing, tbh. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.06.15 10:50:00 - [165] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: The Enslaver I do find a certain alliance losing multiple capital ships in a desperate last ditch attempt to control some complexes surprisingly amusing, tbh. I do find a certain alliances losing zillions of their ships all over "their" space from the enemy (who, by the words of the very same certain alliances, only stay in complexes, logoff and run) and the same certain alliances calling in more and more people to help them in a desperate last ditch attempt to win smack war on the forums suprisingly amusing, tbh. Calling in more and more people to win a smack war on the forums? Did you miss the fact that we have conquered your space. Your POS are running out of fuel and offlining, and either being stolen or destroyed. One day sooner or later we will take C-J and this time there will be nothing you can do about it, and no hope of taking it back (yeah, yeah you don't need stations yawn). Your losing the grip of your source of income, sustaining losses while you do it. None of this is related to the forums, it effects how you do, or more fittingly DON'T play the game anymore. Maybe it is MY turn to post some Chat logs.
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:19:00 - [166] To be honest, I still play the Game, and most of the time enjoy it. As for you, I don't know, but it seems like you are starting to take it too seriously. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:26:00 - [167] Originally by: Pastora To be honest, I still play the Game, and most of the time enjoy it. As for you, I don't know, but it seems like you are starting to take it too seriously. Dude I'm loving it, even when you took back C-J and we had to put 40 bil worth assets on the line against a couple of 1 bil time sinks, we loved it. And now it is all the sweater. I turned around to ens the other day, and said "you've been in the corp the longest of all the corps you have been in now Ens, do you enjoy it?." He said, "it is my best time in eve ever." I can honestly say that describes my feelings on the matter perfectly.
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:31:00 - [168] Originally by: Chowdown Dude I'm loving it, even when you took back C-J and we had to put 40 bil worth assets on the line against a couple of 1 bil time sinks, we loved it. And now it is all the sweater. I turned around to ens the other day, and said "you've been in the corp the longest of all the corps you have been in now Ens, do you enjoy it?." He said, "it is my best time in eve ever." I can honestly say that describes my feelings on the matter perfectly. Good then, I'm happy for you, as a player. :) As a character... Damn, you will burn!!! Me kill you all! Well, I'll try at least. Why did you cancel the war anyway? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:34:00 - [169] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Chowdown Dude I'm loving it, even when you took back C-J and we had to put 40 bil worth assets on the line against a couple of 1 bil time sinks, we loved it. And now it is all the sweater. I turned around to ens the other day, and said "you've been in the corp the longest of all the corps you have been in now Ens, do you enjoy it?." He said, "it is my best time in eve ever." I can honestly say that describes my feelings on the matter perfectly. Good then, I'm happy for you, as a player. :) As a character... Damn, you will burn!!! Me kill you all! Well, I'll try at least. Why did you cancel the war anyway? I guess if you logged on ever you'd notice that the war is back on. Point proven I suppose. Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:39:00 - [170] Originally by: nickycakes I guess if you logged on ever you'd notice that the war is back on. Point proven I suppose. I shouldn't say that perhaps, but unlike you, I have wonderful and fruitful RL, so sometimes I'm offline for a few days. Last time I checked (was it 2 days ago?), the war wasn't there. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.

Therem Harth	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:51:00 - [171] Originally by: Iratus Caelestis What happened to fleet combat. You bring some ships, we bring some ships. Shoot each for a few hours a day over the course of a couple of weeks. Winner stays on. A war of attrition with weaponless POS's. Yermak would be so proud. So, what's your deal with Ghosts of Retribution is then, did you pay them to retake the M53 station or have they voluntarily submitted to BOS as pets, and how much fleet combat was involved in either of these scenarios? This is a personal post and doesn't represent DAB or RAZOR. --
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.06.15 11:59:00 - [172] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: nickycakes I guess if you logged on ever you'd notice that the war is back on. Point proven I suppose. I shouldn't say that perhaps, but unlike you, I have wonderful and fruitful RL, so sometimes I'm offline for a few days. Last time I checked (was it 2 days ago?), the war wasn't there. Nebba forgetting to pay war fee FTL ! Max
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.06.15 13:13:00 - [173] Originally by: Therem Harth Originally by: Iratus Caelestis What happened to fleet combat. You bring some ships, we bring some ships. Shoot each for a few hours a day over the course of a couple of weeks. Winner stays on. A war of attrition with weaponless POS's. Yermak would be so proud. So, what's your deal with Ghosts of Retribution is then, did you pay them to retake the M53 station or have they voluntarily submitted to BOS as pets, and how much fleet combat was involved in either of these scenarios? This is a personal post and doesn't represent DAB or RAZOR. there was/is no fight between BOS/ERA and Ghost, but i'll leave the particulars to the discretion of the leaders of both parties
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2006.06.15 13:22:00 - [174] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Pastora Originally by: nickycakes I guess if you logged on ever you'd notice that the war is back on. Point proven I suppose. I shouldn't say that perhaps, but unlike you, I have wonderful and fruitful RL, so sometimes I'm offline for a few days. Last time I checked (was it 2 days ago?), the war wasn't there. Nebba forgetting to pay war fee FTL ! I was too busy watching my country's team lose to Czechoslovakia. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Kunming	Posted - 2006.06.15 13:31:00 - [175] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Pastora Originally by: nickycakes I guess if you logged on ever you'd notice that the war is back on. Point proven I suppose. I shouldn't say that perhaps, but unlike you, I have wonderful and fruitful RL, so sometimes I'm offline for a few days. Last time I checked (was it 2 days ago?), the war wasn't there. Nebba forgetting to pay war fee FTL ! I was too busy watching my country's team lose to Czechoslovakia. You mean Czech Republic (I'm not from there but I know its a sensitive topic for them) I dont understand one thing though; why does RA come to run complexes in our space.. thats like jumping into the mouth of a lion! Anyway losing capital ships while trying to PvE must have hurt
Cadman Weyland	Posted - 2006.06.15 13:40:00 - [176] Originally by: Therem Harth So, what's your deal with Ghosts of Retribution is then, did you pay them to retake the M53 station or have they voluntarily submitted to BOS as pets Crikey, thats a bit rich given the way u and yer buddies in D2 got OSS and therefore ERA outta H-W. CSHN 4TL Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.06.16 06:26:00 - [177] TBH i dont see whats this entrie fuss is about , we came to the area and we are fighting the russians on daily basis and so far it is fun so as for the rest of the alts , trolls and morons in this thread go troll somewhere else this thread realy needs to die tbfh. "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.06.16 07:30:00 - [178] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel TBH i dont see whats this entrie fuss is about , we came to the area and we are fighting the russians on daily basis and so far it is fun so as for the rest of the alts , trolls and morons in this thread go troll somewhere else this thread realy needs to die tbfh. But it's making you stronger.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.16 08:45:00 - [179] If you need to get stronger, drink Iron Bru.
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:40:00 - [180] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel TBH i dont see whats this entrie fuss is about , we came to the area and we are fighting the russians on daily basis and so far it is fun so as for the rest of the alts , trolls and morons in this thread go troll somewhere else this thread realy needs to die tbfh. But it's making you stronger. Yup and i am starting to love it also , shame i cant understand what the russians say in local Kia i dont drink beer "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"

Tehel Necrona	Posted - 2006.06.16 09:41:00 - [181] drink some special brew or tennants super, then u'll be on their level and understand them.
Raeff	Posted - 2006.06.16 17:35:00 - [182] Edited by: Raeff on 16/06/2006 17:39:05 i just got 1 question: where did you RA guys get all the money for all these freakin POSs? all ive been doing the last week and a half is killing large POSs and i dont even think we have started to scratch the surface yet lol you do know your supposed to "online" the guns right? onlining the towers helps sometimes too... 8-10 so far this week i think(that i know of), and thats just 1 system... thats alot of isk down the drain isnt it? pvp wise you guys got some skillz though .. fun fights
Max Hardcase	Posted - 2006.06.16 22:04:00 - [183] The amount of money you can get from just overseer effects in 10/10 is mind boggling. Then add headmoney, ubah loot from final boss.... tbh we should have kicked RA out of the plex systems 3 months ago, **** the station systems. ---------------------------------------------- Max Hardcase > yawn-o-rama Max Hardcase > is this typical of RA warfare ? FreaKsh0 > yes boredom fitted in all their high slots
Erton	Posted - 2006.06.29 03:43:00 - [184] i'm tired to read all this 6 pages..but...one thing i'd like to say To ERA U guys talk much more than other.. the war is going long.yeah -v- LV CHMP KOS and then GHOSTS..all of them were from the begining of the war ..but u ...sorry but when i read your posts ..it's boring me. U came in cache not so long ago and now u are sitting on the back of the "first" Coalitiong and talking that "Yeah we are strong, we are cool, RA is dead, RA is weak" And say something about fun etc. why did u live your home ? heh if there is really weak alliance u now ho it is.... IMHO u shut up and play silently for the while. GL to us RA GL to "first" coalition (-v- LV KOS CHMP ) there are good guys but not all of them ..same in RA ... Best regards from Russian Federation
Murukan	Posted - 2006.06.29 04:05:00 - [185] the fact that RA is still fighting strong against upwards of 6500 pilots is impressive. And it's pretty sad when the Coalition smacks them considering this is the biggest gangbang in eve history.
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.06.29 05:48:00 - [186] Originally by: Murukan the fact that RA is still fighting strong against upwards of 6500 pilots is impressive. And it's pretty sad when the Coalition smacks them considering this is the biggest gangbang in eve history. I know you're rather pro-RA and anti coalition, I've seen your posts all over, but you're not actually involved. This war predates your charecters very existence, and at the begining of this war it was RA with the numbers, they lost very many members and very many allies, some say to their foolish policies and terrible treatment of so-called allies. So can I ask you, Is V much more impressive because we, alone, engaged RA which was more than 3 times our numbers back at the end of December, on top of which we then joined forces over time with 3 other alliances and have in the course of this war all but eliminated RA's hold over 0.0 stations. The fact the they keep fighting is not impressive, any group of people can "keep fighting", and there's still 3 or 4 original foundation who fight V in GW (hi DUCK!), do I find this impressive? Not at all, they're fighting a lost war. It's worthy of respect, but it's certainly not impressive. Oh, and to the person above you; necro ftl. [Art of War][- V -]
Finix Jaeger	Posted - 2006.06.29 06:19:00 - [187] Edited by: Finix Jaeger on 29/06/2006 06:19:47 I think I've seen his thread die and get ressurected 3 times now, please let it die. It suffers :( ------------------------- Ten thousand days in the fire...
Pastora	Posted - 2006.06.29 10:43:00 - [188] Pepperami, I want to say only one thing and say it I shall. You are wrong, and wrong you are! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.29 10:58:00 - [189] null Originally by: Erton i'm tired to read all this 6 pages..but...one thing i'd like to say To ERA U guys talk much more than other.. the war is going long.yeah -v- LV CHMP KOS and then GHOSTS..all of them were from the begining of the war ..but u ...sorry but when i read your posts ..it's boring me. U came in cache not so long ago and now u are sitting on the back of the "first" Coalitiong and talking that "Yeah we are strong, we are cool, RA is dead, RA is weak" And say something about fun etc. why did u live your home ? heh if there is really weak alliance u now ho it is.... IMHO u shut up and play silently for the while. GL to us RA GL to "first" coalition (-v- LV KOS CHMP ) there are good guys but not all of them ..same in RA ... Best regards from Russian Federation So you're accusing us of saying something in a thread you've just admitted you've not actually read. Great work. Why did we leave our home? We ARE home.
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.06.29 11:02:00 - [190] No, you are not. Stop ressurecting this thread.

warpag0n	Posted - 2006.06.29 11:36:00 - [191] omg guys just kill eachother and stop the forum crap
Nebuli	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:29:00 - [192] Originally by: Pastora Pepperami, I want to say only one thing and say it I shall. You are wrong, and wrong you are! Wrong about which part? all seems spot on to me. CEO - Art of War
Crellion	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:58:00 - [193] Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Pastora Pepperami, I want to say only one thing and say it I shall. You are wrong, and wrong you are! Wrong about which part? all seems spot on to me. Yup pep said it all rly.


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