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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:10:00 -
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Here are some screenshots of the new Moa on Sisi.
When I recover my morale, I'll wander over to Jita and shoot the monument while flying a Moa. *sniffle* Because it's the last we'll see of the "so fugly it's beautiful in the same way that a fly regurgitating onto its food to digest it before lapping it back up is beautiful in Nature's special way" Moa that we've come to love/hate over the years. *sob*
/I need a hug
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TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Intrepid Crossing
213
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:14:00 -
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so different from the old moa, kinda sad. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
6487
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:20:00 -
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New moa looks great. About damned time, too.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
665
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:21:00 -
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I have to agree with the sentiment. It's fugly as all getout, but I LIKE the chicken-with-a-briefcase model.
Also, boo for symmetry. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1526
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:29:00 -
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The old moa is damn ugly, but I've grown to not hate it. The new moa is too.... not-moa.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
285
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:33:00 -
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Yeah, the current Moa is a ship only its mother could love.
The new Moa looks fantastic, but I will miss chuckling to myself whenever I hop into the old Ostrich With A Suitcase. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5675
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:33:00 -
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Thank God!
The old Moa looked like someone tried to build a Dinobot with a Lego set that had several pieces missing.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
ChironV
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:36:00 -
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Before, everyone commented that it was fugly. It heard all the comments. Now it looks really really ticked off.  |
Marsha Mallow
689
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:38:00 -
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If they keep this up we're going to run out of stuff to moan about....
Haha OK j/k
I just saw someone crying on a feedback thread about the how much they loved the old Moa model >.>
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1462
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:41:00 -
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I really like the new model but let's not think that it's pretty or anything like that!
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Dub Step
Death To Everyone But Us
143
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:45:00 -
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Stop making everything symmetrical and boring please CCP. This game is slowly losing all it's unique character. |
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:52:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:so different from the old moa, kinda sad.
That's like saying "XP is so different from Windows 3.1, kinda sad."
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Job Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
570
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:55:00 -
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Holy crap it looks aweso.... errr I mean grrrr symmetry!
"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
83
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Posted - 2014.05.23 14:58:00 -
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It looks like an unfinished prophecy hull :P |
Miss Masquerade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:07:00 -
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Looks awsome and waaaay better than the old crap model, thank you CCP. |
stoicfaux
4855
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:08:00 -
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I'm at the monument now. There's even a CONCORD Police Commander orbiting the monument, expressing his grief.
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XxRTEKxX
That Escalated Quickly
Nerfed Alliance Go Away
119
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:10:00 -
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The new hull design looks great. I hope they redesign the Blackhawk and Osprey hulls next. |
Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
83
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:25:00 -
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XxRTEKxX wrote:The new hull design looks great. I hope they redesign the Blackhawk and Osprey hulls next.
Blackhawk? :P
I assume you mean nighthawk and thats using the drake hull and whats wrong with that? |
Aralez
Epidemic.
Nulli Secunda
7
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:30:00 -
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new ships look good, but i cant help but feeling meh towards the textures.. I mean if you zoom out then its almost like their high rez :p |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
3274
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:36:00 -
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Cypherous wrote:XxRTEKxX wrote:The new hull design looks great. I hope they redesign the Blackhawk and Osprey hulls next. Blackhawk? :P I assume you mean nighthawk and thats using the drake hull and whats wrong with that?
blackbird. |
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
118
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:44:00 -
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THEN: "omg so fugly chicken-with-a-briefcase, CCP please make it symmetrical bla bla bla "
NOW: "omg so not Moa, why so symmetrical, I miss the chicken-with-a-briefcase waaaa"
Simple testimony that whatever CCP does, the players will not be satisfied. "devs-going-I-give-up.gif"
Me personally I'm looking at the new Moa and i'm like *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap*
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled |
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1915
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:46:00 -
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See kids, every ugly duckling can become beautiful....with enough cosmetic surgery.
CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it.
Improving NPE-á/ Dynamic New Eden |
BLACK-STAR
639
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Posted - 2014.05.23 15:52:00 -
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That's the most beautiful duck with a broken neck I've ever seen.
- If violence does not solve your problem, you may not have used enough of it. |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
191
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:01:00 -
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The sleek and competent design of the new Moa remind of a Volkswagen Golf. A silver VW Golf. With a tow hook.
Who wouldn't be excited about a new Golf, eh? |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Intrepid Crossing
213
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:02:00 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:TheMercenaryKing wrote:so different from the old moa, kinda sad. That's like saying "XP is so different from Windows 3.1, kinda sad."
Personally I like CLI.
Anyways, i mean in that it shares few characteristics with its predecessor. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel
Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1527
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:25:00 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:THEN: "omg so fugly chicken-with-a-briefcase, CCP please make it symmetrical bla bla bla "
NOW: "omg so not Moa, why so symmetrical, I miss the chicken-with-a-briefcase waaaa"
Simple testimony that whatever CCP does, the players will not be satisfied. "devs-going-I-give-up.gif"
Me personally I'm looking at the new Moa and i'm like *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap*
nah, the new ship is ok. they finally went and fixed the moa's ugliness.
it's just... it's like the end of an era, if you catch the drift. The ship was so ugly, many jokes were made around it and now that the ugliness is gone.. it's just not the same thing.
[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
387
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:43:00 -
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Looks like a Firefly. Therefor is awesome. |
Damon Messer
Miroirs
9
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:47:00 -
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out of curiosity, did the Eagle and Gila share the Moa's makeover |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5676
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:51:00 -
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Damon Messer wrote:out of curiosity, did the Eagle and Gila share the Moa's makeover
Yes.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Nimrod vanHall
Martyr's Vengence
Nulli Secunda
86
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Posted - 2014.05.23 16:57:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Damon Messer wrote:out of curiosity, did the Eagle and Gila share the Moa's makeover Yes.
R.I.P. Gilasecunda |
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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:07:00 -
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Now on to Blackbird, Caracal and Phoenix. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
225
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:20:00 -
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Went from wonky looking Godzilla ship to goofy looking space chicken. EVE already had enough spacechickens IMHO. |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar
Noir. Mercenary Group
654
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:22:00 -
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Nimrod vanHall wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Damon Messer wrote:out of curiosity, did the Eagle and Gila share the Moa's makeover Yes. R.I.P. Gilasecunda
GilaSecunda was awesome. Canaris rocks those drones like a boss. That said the Guristas rebalance will do more to kill that than the new model will.
Still I think the new Gila with its new bonuses will be interesting as hell to fly.
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
XxRTEKxX
That Escalated Quickly
Nerfed Alliance Go Away
120
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:26:00 -
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Cypherous wrote:XxRTEKxX wrote:The new hull design looks great. I hope they redesign the Blackhawk and Osprey hulls next. Blackhawk? :P I assume you mean nighthawk and thats using the drake hull and whats wrong with that?
I mean the Blackbird. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
3540
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:27:00 -
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Maybe it would look less bottom heavy if the turret mount bit was at the front of the wings instead of the middle sides. It'd look like a trident from top then.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
15
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:51:00 -
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Finally.
One less spaceship that doesn't look like anything even remotely resembling a spaceship. |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
157
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Posted - 2014.05.23 17:58:00 -
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For a long time, I've refrained from training Caldari cruiser V simply because the Moa was so incredibly mind numbingly ugly.
The thought of even being capable of flying something like the Eagle was giving me the creeps and I felt learning a long skill for just one ship I would ever potentially fly wasn't worth it.
Well, this is now in the past. Time to fly Caldari again.  |
Captain Finklestein
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:02:00 -
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It's certainly an improvement... whether it's actually nice is something else entirely. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4914
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:08:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Here are some screenshots of the new Moa on Sisi. When I recover my morale, I'll wander over to Jita and shoot the monument while flying a Moa. *sniffle* Because it's the last we'll see of the "so fugly it's beautiful in the same way that a fly regurgitating onto its food to digest it before lapping it back up is beautiful in Nature's special way" Moa that we've come to love/hate over the years. *sob* /I need a hug
I like it.
Now if they can just do something about the Imicus I'll stop hallucinating little elves that tell me to set fire to things every time I see one.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
157
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:11:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Here are some screenshots of the new Moa on Sisi. When I recover my morale, I'll wander over to Jita and shoot the monument while flying a Moa. *sniffle* Because it's the last we'll see of the "so fugly it's beautiful in the same way that a fly regurgitating onto its food to digest it before lapping it back up is beautiful in Nature's special way" Moa that we've come to love/hate over the years. *sob* /I need a hug I like it. Now if they can just do something about the Imicus I'll stop hallucinating little elves that tell me to set fire to things every time I see one.
To be fair, the Gallente Federation build the Imicus to make enemy crews projectile vomit every time they see one. A task the Imicius is perfectly suited for.
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Xercodo
Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering
3499
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:14:00 -
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I'd like to point out it's still not symmetrical with a little blob of armor on the bottom to the left (pilot's right) side.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/uQp7Pbb1rxVSJ6AybZy_j4yV7GJsAOPFIzR6Ln0FUv7vk0M1FunFJRBCzFu9fmOtmg=w1808-h808
The Drake is a Lie |
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:16:00 -
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Similar to how CCP changed the avatar pictures from something of a different universe to what we have today, changing the Moa from something unique to a more "Earth built" ship seems just more of the same now-a-days... |
Remiel Pollard
The 0th Fleet
A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3267
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:28:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Here are some screenshots of the new Moa on Sisi. When I recover my morale, I'll wander over to Jita and shoot the monument while flying a Moa. *sniffle* Because it's the last we'll see of the "so fugly it's beautiful in the same way that a fly regurgitating onto its food to digest it before lapping it back up is beautiful in Nature's special way" Moa that we've come to love/hate over the years. *sob* /I need a hug
Serenity, is that you??
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
158
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:32:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Similar to how CCP changed the avatar pictures from something of a different universe to what we have today, changing the Moa from something unique to a more "Earth built" ship seems just more of the same now-a-days...
We built spaceships? Since when?
Now if CCP could actually make asymetric ships look good, I would like them. Case in point: The Thorax is pretty asymetric, but looks still neat. The old Moa was unique only in its hideousness. Seriously, that ship was a flying lump of cancer. Space cancer.
I'm pretty sure it actively turned people of the game whenever a picture of it showed up in the media.
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Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
164
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:40:00 -
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I like the new Moa, the old one will always have a special place in my heart.
CCP can we get a special edition commodity of a duck in a suitcase?
Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
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stoicfaux
4860
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:47:00 -
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Added images: Moa's wings now tuck in during warp. Forcefield bay door on port side. Problem: gun mounts not aligning with the movable wings.
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stoicfaux
4860
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Posted - 2014.05.23 18:52:00 -
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Also is it just me, or does the faux cockpit plates and the "nose" remind anyone of the Human Centipede?
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Owen Levanth
Federated Deep Space Explorations
158
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:08:00 -
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It's just you, pervert. Stop looking at horrible movies.
Oh wait, now I know why you liked the old Moa. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22148
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:17:00 -
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Needs more asymmetry. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
13769
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:22:00 -
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Goodbye goose with a briefcase!
Now... if only we could get CCP to rethink the Platypus with a jousting lance Golem....
and the Bantam.....
and give us the NEW SEXY ATRON WE WERE PROMISED 2 YEARS AGO.....
.. that would be great.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1846
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:31:00 -
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Yes the new moa is very shiny, but where can we get some floral bonnets? |
Aralez
Epidemic.
Nulli Secunda
10
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:34:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Yes the new moa is very shiny, but where can we get some floral bonnets?
I know this game is for the older crowd, but floral....  |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
542
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:35:00 -
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Cypherous wrote:XxRTEKxX wrote:The new hull design looks great. I hope they redesign the Blackhawk and Osprey hulls next. Blackhawk? :P I assume you mean nighthawk and thats using the drake hull and whats wrong with that?
New ECM Cruiser, mix of Blackbird and Hawk. |
stoicfaux
4862
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Posted - 2014.05.23 19:42:00 -
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Caviar Liberta wrote:Cypherous wrote:XxRTEKxX wrote:The new hull design looks great. I hope they redesign the Blackhawk and Osprey hulls next. Blackhawk? :P I assume you mean nighthawk and thats using the drake hull and whats wrong with that? New ECM Cruiser, mix of Blackbird and Hawk.
It's garbage. The new Somali faction frigate can take the Blackhawk down easily.
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
134
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:10:00 -
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Nice! I hope my Falcon looks like that soon. |
Talon SilverHawk
Ronin Cartel
The G0dfathers
670
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:14:00 -
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Nice
Tal
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation
Brave Collective
177
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:14:00 -
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All of you saying you hate this redesign are absolutely frikkin nuts.
That is all.
http://www.thecoffeerocks.com
Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
Sibyyl
Brave Collective
1228
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:17:00 -
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I'm not an artist, and that probably influences my opinion but you guys think that this lovely thing is godawful to look at it?
Surely you're joking? (And don't call my Shirley) |
stoicfaux
4863
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Posted - 2014.05.23 20:39:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:I'm not an artist, and that probably influences my opinion but you guys think that this lovely thing is godawful to look at it? Surely you're joking? (And don't call my Shirley)
Honestly, the nose is odd looking. It's very awkward looking with the faux cockpit "glass" on the neck. It reminds of:
a) the nose is a shuttle docking point (and the nose is the shuttle,)
b) the moa is eating the "shuttle"
c) the shuttle/nose is actually a mouth in a mouth as per Aliens,
d) the shuttle/nose are horizontal chin whiskers.
But the greatest sin of the New Moa is that it just screams Star Trek. For some reason it reminds me of some ship (or ships) from FASA's Star Trek Tactical Combat game. It could be Romulan. It could be Klingon (bottom row.) It could be Federation.
tl;dr - It's not EVE enough.
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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct
Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
139
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:34:00 -
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I prefered the old one  I don't agree with Caldari now being symmetrical, I liked them not being... CCP, is there any chance to not introduce this model yet, modify it and implement it later? I think it could keep its assimetry.
I just hope they don't remodel the Blackbird... If there's something more EVE-like than the old Moa, it is the Blackbird. |
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Dominus Tempus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:39:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:If they keep this up we're going to run out of stuff to moan about....
Because the majority of GD posters aren't simply waiting for something to complain about. Right.
When there isn't a clear topic, they'll invent one on the spot or simply flame someone's thread until the next item on the *****-about list.
Most of the remaining people try to pretend they're moderators and take every opportunity to tell people that they're stupid and that their thread doesn't belong rather than having something even remotely resembling a productive comment.
Edit: New moa looks like it's pretending to be Serenity. |
Felicity Love
It Was the Year 3030
1822
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:45:00 -
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Awesome... +1, and about frakking time, too.
The current/soon to be EXTINCT Moa hull... makes my eyes bleed.
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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Marsha Mallow
696
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Posted - 2014.05.23 21:48:00 -
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Dominus Tempus wrote:Marsha Mallow wrote:If they keep this up we're going to run out of stuff to moan about.... Because the majority of GD posters aren't simply waiting for something to complain about. Right.
The majority of GD posters make their complaints known where appropriate. Calm down, they're just joking about.
Taking the mickey out of the incoherent, illiterate, illogical emo whiners is a hobby. Brings us together.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
395
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Posted - 2014.05.23 22:48:00 -
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DEAR GOD!!!!!
What is this symmetry you speak of....????
I am a pod pilot:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Narcotic Gryffin
Veil Cabal
29
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Posted - 2014.05.24 04:16:00 -
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Those wing or sides or whatever look like legos stuck to the sides. Feels like someone had a good start then got tired and reached in the lego box and said meh good enough ill just paint it the ships color.
http://www.sortius-is-a-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/history-channel-hd-aliens-thumb.jpg |
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
16
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Posted - 2014.05.24 08:17:00 -
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Good. Every single ship in the game should be symmetrical, and getting rid of the most blatantly fugly asymmetrical model is a great start. Symmetry is just more pleasing to the eye. I'd rather all the ships look sexy and resemble what the new Condor and Moa look like then them representing some kind of ugly "design aesthetic". |
Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
1
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Posted - 2014.05.24 09:01:00 -
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The new Moa is awesome and its not symmetric at all.
People who say it is should take a closer look at its belly... and see the beauty of its drone bay on the port-side.
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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct
Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
139
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Posted - 2014.05.24 10:05:00 -
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Talas Dir wrote:Good. Every single ship in the game should be symmetrical, and getting rid of the most blatantly fugly asymmetrical model is a great start. Symmetry is just more pleasing to the eye. I'd rather all the ships look sexy and resemble what the new Condor and Moa look like then them representing some kind of ugly "design aesthetic". I respect your point of view, but EVE has always been characterised by unusual, not necessarily symmetrical designs, and that makes them unique. Most space games have very generic symmetrical designs, and some of the new designs -Condor, Moa- might look too generic; I mean, they don't look that EVE-like anymore. I'm not saying they're horrible and should never be implemented, but I think keeping their assymetry while making a new model wouldn't hurt: imagine the new Moa only having a left "briefcase" or the new Condor only having a right engines-wing, or the new Crucifier having its left wing on top like the old one; new models, but still recognizable.
Moreover, not all EVE asymmetrical ships are that horrible: Omen, Aeon, Atron, Catalyst, the new Tempest... Those ships are unique because of the assymetry; can you imagine a symmetrical Aeon?
There are also ships so ridiculously assymetrical you love them precisely because of that: for example, the Blackbird. I bet it's one of the most unusual sci-fi ship design ever. If it gets remodeled to be symmetrical too... it might lose what makes it unique. Sure, new models with better textures and more polygons are great, but in my opinion they're are not that nice when the ships lose their "identity".
Also, a spaceship does not need to be symmetrical. We could argue about propulsion torques, but these ships already turn without visible manouver engines, so we could say they're advanced enough to use other methods to remain oriented (perhaps local space warping?).
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Dave Stark
5989
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Posted - 2014.05.24 10:15:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Awesome... +1, and about frakking time, too.
The current/soon to be EXTINCT Moa hull... makes my eyes bleed.
not quite, when i was on sisi yesterday the eagle and onyx still had the old moa model. |
Vamp Hakuli
Dead Of Night
10
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Posted - 2014.05.24 16:23:00 -
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Wow! Well I think that that is an awesome ship, I will now buy it, instead of the ugly ducklings ng I never wanted. |
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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
469
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Posted - 2014.05.24 16:45:00 -
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With all the major ship graphic changes over the years, too bad CCP did not allow those that had the original version keep their ship as "ship type" (Classic) while all further built versions were to become "ship type" (Modern). Both ships would have identical stats - just one would have been considered ~older~ than the other.
Of course, someone will probably whine that CCP would have to adjust twice the art for the same ship in future adjustments when they could have been working on flavor of the month concept idea... |
Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians
Fidelas Constans
176
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Posted - 2014.05.24 21:41:00 -
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There is Functional looking asymmetry, good looking asymmetry, ugly and unneeded asymmetry and then you had to Moa, happy to see it gone. |
ColdCutz
Frigonometry
100
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Posted - 2014.05.25 03:05:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owzhYNcd4OM |
Cameron Dostya
Praetorian Black Guard
Frater Adhuc Excessum
1
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Posted - 2014.06.01 06:53:00 -
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When I first saw the new moa I thought it looked like a baby leviathan. |
Flamespar
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
1226
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Posted - 2014.06.01 08:05:00 -
[75] - Quote
So it looks like the Moa got sick of being made fun of and started working out
Comic
EVE Chronicle: An audio drama set in the EVE universe
http://evechronicle.blogspot.com.au/
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Aoife Fraoch
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.06.01 10:39:00 -
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Actually would have prefered it if they treated the new hulls the same way they dealt with the strealth bombers. Keep the t1 versions on the older hulls but give the t2 versions the new ones. I do agree the new hulls look pretty generic. I think the stealth bomber remodelling was more to my taste. The manticore is just nice. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4662
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:24:00 -
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Komodo Askold wrote:I prefered the old one I don't agree with Caldari now being symmetrical, I liked them not being... CCP, is there any chance to not introduce this model yet, modify it and implement it later? I think it could keep its assimetry. I just hope they don't remodel the Blackbird... If there's something more EVE-like than the old Moa, it is the Blackbird.
Im sure you loved the "Staircase full of needles" Scorpion too, huh?
The quicker the gun-stapler Blackbird is replaced the better
All the changes so far have been massive improvements
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares
"As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
45
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:37:00 -
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I liked most of the older designs better. Different people have different aesthetic preferences. The new Moa looks pretty lackluster and uninspired, to me. I liked the old one much better. And as far as losing the old designs goes, that is the last straw for me.
I want the ability to buy them back. That way, the people who like the new ships can have them. And I can have my insane Gila-Chicken back. Right now on SiSi my Gila is spewing venom all over itself because it HATES ITSELF! 
If anyone else wants to help me save the old designs I've got a thread for that.
If you like any of the older ship models (original artwork) better than the redesign of your favorite hull and don't want them to be lost forever, support ship customization and this feature request. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
4662
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Posted - 2014.06.01 11:47:00 -
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Hasril Pux wrote:I liked most of the older designs better. Different people have different aesthetic preferences. The new Moa looks pretty lackluster and uninspired, to me. I liked the old one much better. And as far as losing the old designs goes, that is the last straw for me. I want the ability to buy them back. That way, the people who like the new ships can have them. And I can have my insane Gila-Chicken back. Right now on SiSi my Gila is spewing venom all over itself because it HATES ITSELF! If anyone else wants to help me save the old designs I've got a thread for that.
Actually (aprat from the "last straw" line) I agree with this, now Ive thought about it
I think it would be kinda cool to have both hulls in the game, older hulls looking different from new versions
Of course, this would create a collector's market for the old designs, and may confuse newbies a little more
"A naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler." - Domanique Altares
"As Ramona previously mentioned, that is correct." --áISD Supogo |
Wyrmlimion
Unexpected Company
Brave Collective
30
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Posted - 2014.06.01 12:26:00 -
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New Moa as some angles looks like a Firefly :) |
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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
356
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Posted - 2014.06.01 12:53:00 -
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Wyrmlimion wrote:New Moa as some angles looks like a Firefly :)
Indeed, it does.
As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting".
-CCP Aporia |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4943
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:45:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Here are some screenshots of the new Moa on Sisi. When I recover my morale, I'll wander over to Jita and shoot the monument while flying a Moa. *sniffle* Because it's the last we'll see of the "so fugly it's beautiful in the same way that a fly regurgitating onto its food to digest it before lapping it back up is beautiful in Nature's special way" Moa that we've come to love/hate over the years. *sob* /I need a hug edit: Added images: Moa's wings now tuck in during warp. Forcefield bay door on port side. Problem gun mounts aligning with the movable wings.
How's the new Osprey/Crow?
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Kirobacsi
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
11
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Posted - 2014.06.01 21:50:00 -
[83] - Quote
i might actually start flying more caldari ships if they keep this up lol |
Felicity Love
It Was the Year 3030
1841
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Posted - 2014.06.01 23:18:00 -
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... waits for the massive fleets of Moa's and Gila's to blot out the suns... the Age of Serenity has begun 
"HTFU ! " -á--- -áKatee Sackhoff, aka "The F-Bomb Queen of EVE" ! !-á
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stoicfaux
4922
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Posted - 2014.06.01 23:29:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
How's the new Osprey/Crow?
The Osprey isn't changing, it still the body of a caracal porked up like a sumo wrestler, a partial Raven's wing glued onto the starboard, an exaggerated Merlin for a port wing, and a scarab beetle for a nose. I'm not sure how you could improve on that.
The Crow is now symmetrical. Think Klingon Bird of Prey sans awesomesauce.
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stoicfaux
4922
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Posted - 2014.06.01 23:33:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... waits for the massive fleets of Moa's and Gila's to blot out the suns... the Age of Serenity has begun
Given that the Serenity was a consolation prize for losing the war with the Alliance, I'm not sure that would be a good thing.
/I for one, welcome our goon alliance overlords and am thankful they let me buy this tramp T1 industrial after defeating high-sec
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Gregor Parud
551
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Posted - 2014.06.01 23:34:00 -
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New Moa is yet another Michael Bay edition, just like the scorpion. It's terrible, obvious and boring. |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
235
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Posted - 2014.06.01 23:55:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:New Moa is yet another Michael Bay edition, just like the scorpion. It's terrible, obvious and boring.
Yeah... I kind of feel the same way. Its ok to take some shapes from creatures. The Vexor looks like a shrimp, the Stabber looks like a dragon. But they don't go too far with it like the Scorpion. The new Moa does, it is too obviously a bird. Together with the Scorpion they are too tongue-in-cheek, too cute.
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Claud Tiberius
40
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Posted - 2014.06.02 00:49:00 -
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The scorpion is cute? Thats not the word I would be using.
Animalistic perhaps.
That isn't a bad thing. The Scorpion still fits in with the eve universe and given its purpose it looks the part as well.
You know whats a real disappointment? That damn Golem hull. Yes its still a bird, but its a damn ugly bird.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5697
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Posted - 2014.06.02 02:53:00 -
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That is a great video. 
I put up one of my own just now to showcase all of the new and redesigned hulls, as well as show off the new animations.
EVE Online: Kronos, Animations and Custom Skins
If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
Ranger 1 Presents
https://www.youtube.com/user/Ranger1Presents |
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Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.06.02 21:46:00 -
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Reminds me of a Firefly class transport ship... Just saying. |
Hasril Pux
Red Cabal
53
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Posted - 2014.06.03 00:09:00 -
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Komodo Askold wrote:I prefered the old one I don't agree with Caldari now being symmetrical, I liked them not being... CCP, is there any chance to not introduce this model yet, modify it and implement it later? I think it could keep its assimetry. I just hope they don't remodel the Blackbird... If there's something more EVE-like than the old Moa, it is the Blackbird.
I agree with you.
But just so you know, they're going to replace everything with more comfortable, generic, "cool looking" designs. I don't know if that's because the marketing department may be pushing some agenda to rake in (or keep) more players, or if they are trying to make the art department work less hours. Because mostly symmetrical 3d models take half the time to develop and are much easier to texture. Then again, if they had just used the old models as a basis it would have taken even less time. Maybe the art department just hates EvE's original style.
The new ship models are like pop music. They appeal more to the general public who likes something with a beat. But they lose the interest of crazy ****ers like me who like the unapproachable, unsettling, abstract **** that puts us on edge and leaves us guessing.
I'm not wowed by "eye-candy" and I'm not won over by moving parts that shift in warp. I want the weird stuff that inspires my imagination. Without that, this game has lost it's luster for me. While I appreciate many of the graphical improvements made to the EvE universe, this move to throw out iconic ship designs that captivated many of EvE's original player base has brought me out of my troll cave. Please let me pay money to buy my "ugly" ships back. Please just give them a high res pass and be done with it. Add vintage models to the NES (not the Nintendo Entertainment System, the New Eden Store you senile over-aged minmatar ape) or do something else to give us access to the models that appeal to us.
If you like any of the older ship models (original artwork) better than the redesign of your favorite hull and don't want them to be lost forever, support ship customization and this feature request. |
Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.06.03 00:27:00 -
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TheMercenaryKing wrote:so different from the old moa, kinda sad.
I won't begrudge you your particular taste in ships, but personally I always thought it looked like someone's first attempt at origami gone wrong. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5707
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Posted - 2014.06.03 00:36:00 -
[94] - Quote
Think of it this way, the Moa didn't abandon it's suitcase... it simply traded it in for two over-the-shoulder satchels. 
If you like EVE Online and War Thunder content stop by my YouTube channel.-á
Ranger 1 Presents
https://www.youtube.com/user/Ranger1Presents |
JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1110
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Posted - 2014.06.03 04:43:00 -
[95] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
How's the new Osprey/Crow?
http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66163/1/condor.jpg |
JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1110
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Posted - 2014.06.03 04:47:00 -
[96] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
How's the new Osprey/Crow?
Actually the funny thing about the new crow/condor/raptor model.
In 2011 an Eve player on Reddit posted about a possible new Crow design. He had found it in the assets on the duality server.
CCP Navigator replied to that thread and said there is no new crow model, and that the image posted had to have been player created since it was not a CCP model.
This is the image posted in 2011
And this is the Kronos remodel |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4950
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Posted - 2014.06.03 07:52:00 -
[97] - Quote
Oh noes Human Centipede! With one of my favorite actors too (he was epic as Mantrid in the Lexx series)
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4950
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Posted - 2014.06.03 07:56:00 -
[98] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:That is a great video. I put up one of my own just now to showcase all of the new and redesigned hulls, as well as show off the new animations. EVE Online: Kronos, Animations and Custom SkinsHowever I'm not as creative as the one you linked.
:-D
Stuff like that makes the internet worth the money. Heck I might be able to get some Firefly fans I know interested in the game with that video.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
JC Anderson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1111
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Posted - 2014.06.03 08:44:00 -
[99] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Oh noes Human Centipede! With one of my favorite actors too (he was epic as Mantrid in the Lexx series)
I liked the sequel to that movie far better than the first one. |
stoicfaux
4929
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:14:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Oh noes Human Centipede! With one of my favorite actors too (he was epic as Mantrid in the Lexx series) I liked the sequel to that movie far better than the first one.
I see what you did there. Horrible (first release) followed by a (tolerable reiteration.)
Very clever. But no +1 for you since I'm a purist.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1348
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Posted - 2014.06.03 12:59:00 -
[101] - Quote
old design was STEAK!! dripping with blood
new design is Tofu
tl/dr
new design is bland, unimaginative, uninspired and insipid
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The Baby-sitter
The Scope
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.06.03 13:41:00 -
[102] - Quote
The new Moa is
Shhheeexxshheee!! <3 |
Ran Dimaloun
Order and Prosperity
2
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:17:00 -
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Ok, here's what I think:
The new model looks great, but thinking that I will never, ever be able to fly the old moa again is sad.
Why not just update the T2 version of the ship? That way, you can still fly 2 different ships based on the same one.
It would just add to the eve universe, instead of taking one step forward and one step back again.
I also really miss the old apocalypse design. I wish for the same thing here; Keep the new, fresh model for the paladin. and bring the old one back for T1. It really didn't look that bad. Maybe even bring it back with some refreshed textures and details, but keeping the overall shape.
My thoughts remain the same for the crucifier. The new model looks more advanced, like a T2 should be.
Ships that are unique to the eve universe is just sad to see discarded.
Even though you can still see them as rats, they can never be flown again.
Gonna be sad everytime I do a mission now. |
Strat Plan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:58:00 -
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Looks like Caldari's answer to the Prophecy. |
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