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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.11.17 10:07:00 -
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Klask Atriund wrote:T' Elk wrote:MechWarrior 3 What?
Everybody just calm down, there is no news on the new mechwarrior.
OP finds prime time a joke, if it is, he is the punchline. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
0
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Posted - 2011.11.17 10:07:00 -
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dude! when i had subed for my first week primtime was like 3k! those were the days eve was really fun!!!! |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
1159
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Posted - 2011.11.17 10:33:00 -
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Hash Arzi wrote:Really quick question. Since when does prime time have 25k people logged in? I just re-activated my account for the upcoming winter expansion and last time I checked, it was usually around 50k-60k. Has it just been an off-week or is this pretty common?
Since when was 02:48 "prime time".
Check between 19:00-23:00 on a weekday. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Kiblete
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.11.17 11:03:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Klask Atriund wrote:T' Elk wrote:MechWarrior 3 What? Everybody just calm down, there is no news on the new mechwarrior. OP finds prime time a joke, if it is, he is the punchline.
www.mwomercs.com
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Bender 01000010
EVE-RO Fidelas Constans
2
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Posted - 2011.11.17 11:07:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:When plex price is 500m people are cutting down amount of alts and also client requires more from computer so you can not run as many clients than before.
So accounts online has reduced but actual amount of players may be almost same.
YOUR FACE GODDAMMIT!!!! |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
170
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Posted - 2011.11.17 11:10:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:So accounts online has reduced but actual amount of players may be almost same. rumor has it that according to internal CCP communications subscriber count dropped by about 8% over summer. |
Silent Lamb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:16:00 -
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Holy One wrote:Shivus Tao wrote:Skyrim killed EVE. That and two years of complete dereliction and neglect.
lol.... only 2 years? Where are they taking the hobbits?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=VznlDlNPw4Q |
Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Controlled Chaos
22
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:18:00 -
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Silent Lamb wrote:Holy One wrote:Shivus Tao wrote:Skyrim killed EVE. That and two years of complete dereliction and neglect. lol.... only 2 years? :18months: |
Jak'rat
Lion Investments
5
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:23:00 -
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Luh Windan wrote:While of course I do think Eve must have lost some customers through high PLEX and some bad decisions over the last couple of years: why is no one mentioning the recessions* over a lot of the western world at least? many people are reducing their spending, and let's face it a subscription to an MMO is a luxury, and with the high PLEX prices pricing a lot of people out of the ISK subscription market - even if CCP was doing a impeccable job I am sure numbers would be down a bit.
Because it's easier to blame CCP for everything, and to claim in a melodramatic fashion that "Eve is dying" .
A lot of people are not only cutting down on costs but having to work longer hours or pick up a second job - so why pay for accounts you don't have time to log on to - sure, persistent skill training is cool, but it's down to that luxuy factor again. "Full turret rack all grouped, gyro's, rigs - that's not a ship, it's a flying shotgun..." |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:25:00 -
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Illwill Bill wrote:Silent Lamb wrote:Holy One wrote:Shivus Tao wrote:Skyrim killed EVE. That and two years of complete dereliction and neglect. lol.... only 2 years? :18months: not empty quoting |
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
169
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:44:00 -
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mkint wrote:Dbars Grinding wrote:Excuse me while i farm 1.5 bil a month just to keep my accounts active. While paying for my ships,ammo, modules, etc that die in a fire. Yea ,can't see why the population is so low. I hate to say it, but the ONLY reason you have to grind 1.5 bill a month is because YOU pay in isk. It is your fault. I feel no pity for people who complain about PLEX prices, because it's more people who buy plexes for $ that EVE needs, not the people who consume them.
Actually, for a robust Plex market Eve needs both. So, have a little sympathy. Otherwise, without purchasers using ISK, Plex becomes a useless concept with a value of exactly 0.
I'm sure you know this. Why you didn't articulate it, I don't know. Perhaps, you, like so many others in this game take every opportunity to find someone to complain about? IDK.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
148
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Posted - 2011.11.17 13:56:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:When plex price is 500m people are cutting down amount of alts and also client requires more from computer so you can not run as many clients than before.
I run 6 clients at the same time with no problems on my computer. It's not a monster rig, either. There was a lot of trouble when Incarna came out - couldn't run more than 3 without overheating problems but now that's all gone. I reject your argument :)
i7-950 3.07GHz 12GB RAM Nvidia GTX470 x 2 (SLI) Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
581
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Posted - 2011.11.17 14:03:00 -
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If I log on to eve, it's on Sisi - although there's some nice stuff in the pipe, none of it is on TQ yet, so why bother logging on?
Having Skyrim to shorten the wait helps ofc...
morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
Admiral Rufus
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2011.11.17 14:05:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:When plex price is 500m people are cutting down amount of alts and also client requires more from computer so you can not run as many clients than before.
So accounts online has reduced but actual amount of players may be almost same.
Yeah But as people do that, plex demand drops and the price also drops, thus increasing demand again, thus increasing price. Granted its gone oddly high at the moment, through mass market manipulation by super rich players and if I were a paranoid individual I'd say CCP would be able to do it as well. But tbh, there are players which have enough isk to do it.
Either way, it can't stay this high for ever, I play using $ though so it doesn't bother me, might even inject a cheeky billion into my wallet for $32 |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
369
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Posted - 2011.11.17 15:52:00 -
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Ptraci wrote: I run 6 clients at the same time with no problems on my computer. It's not a monster rig, either. There was a lot of trouble when Incarna came out - couldn't run more than 3 without overheating problems but now that's all gone. I reject your argument :)
i7-950 3.07GHz 12GB RAM Nvidia GTX470 x 2 (SLI) Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit.
Even my older quad-core Phenom II w/ NVIDIA GTX 460 (single card) and 16GB RAM runs that many clients easily. The 64bit Win7 drivers are far better performing then the old WinXP drivers, after that it's just having enough RAM to keep everything from swapping out to the hard drive. Figure 700-900MB of RAM per instance.
(Just going from WinXP to Win7 64bit was enough to double my FPS across the board, especially when running multiple clients.) |
Noriko Mai
304
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Posted - 2011.11.17 16:09:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Zions Child wrote:When has it ever been 60k? Also, have you noticed that today is a a Wednesday? June 06th, 2010. --- Which, of course, was a Sunday :) LINKAGE
63,170 23. Jan 2011, I was there. |
Cedar Locus
Superfission
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Posted - 2011.11.17 16:26:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Without being silly and declaring EVE dead, it is quite obvious that CCP are in some degree of trouble caused by strong competition in gaming generally and complete mismanagement over the last two years.
Crucible may not cut out all the rot, but it will put the brakes on the decline.
Time will tell once all the low hanging fruit is picked if CCP have the ability to deliver in large scale again. The problem for CCP is they used to build in response to increased players and subsequent emergent gaming. What will they build to now?
how are shooters competition for eve, let alone a ****** one like mw3 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1527
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Posted - 2011.11.17 16:40:00 -
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For the recordGǪ GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
mkint
359
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:06:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:mkint wrote:Dbars Grinding wrote:Excuse me while i farm 1.5 bil a month just to keep my accounts active. While paying for my ships,ammo, modules, etc that die in a fire. Yea ,can't see why the population is so low. I hate to say it, but the ONLY reason you have to grind 1.5 bill a month is because YOU pay in isk. It is your fault. I feel no pity for people who complain about PLEX prices, because it's more people who buy plexes for $ that EVE needs, not the people who consume them. Actually, for a robust Plex market Eve needs both. So, have a little sympathy. Otherwise, without purchasers using ISK, Plex becomes a useless concept with a value of exactly 0. I'm sure you know this. Why you didn't articulate it, I don't know. Perhaps, you, like so many others in this game take every opportunity to find someone to complain about? IDK. I neglected it intentionally. PLEX has inherent value. We could lose 90% of the PLEXers and still be okay. If we lost 90% of the cashers, we would not. |
Sakurako Kimino
Volatile Nature White Noise.
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:07:00 -
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mkint wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:mkint wrote:Dbars Grinding wrote:Excuse me while i farm 1.5 bil a month just to keep my accounts active. While paying for my ships,ammo, modules, etc that die in a fire. Yea ,can't see why the population is so low. I hate to say it, but the ONLY reason you have to grind 1.5 bill a month is because YOU pay in isk. It is your fault. I feel no pity for people who complain about PLEX prices, because it's more people who buy plexes for $ that EVE needs, not the people who consume them. Actually, for a robust Plex market Eve needs both. So, have a little sympathy. Otherwise, without purchasers using ISK, Plex becomes a useless concept with a value of exactly 0. I'm sure you know this. Why you didn't articulate it, I don't know. Perhaps, you, like so many others in this game take every opportunity to find someone to complain about? IDK. I neglected it intentionally. PLEX has inherent value. We could lose 90% of the PLEXers and still be okay. If we lost 90% of the cashers, we would not.
and where are you getting the numbers from?
eve is about sin |
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mkint
359
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:11:00 -
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Sakurako Kimino wrote:mkint wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:mkint wrote:Dbars Grinding wrote:Excuse me while i farm 1.5 bil a month just to keep my accounts active. While paying for my ships,ammo, modules, etc that die in a fire. Yea ,can't see why the population is so low. I hate to say it, but the ONLY reason you have to grind 1.5 bill a month is because YOU pay in isk. It is your fault. I feel no pity for people who complain about PLEX prices, because it's more people who buy plexes for $ that EVE needs, not the people who consume them. Actually, for a robust Plex market Eve needs both. So, have a little sympathy. Otherwise, without purchasers using ISK, Plex becomes a useless concept with a value of exactly 0. I'm sure you know this. Why you didn't articulate it, I don't know. Perhaps, you, like so many others in this game take every opportunity to find someone to complain about? IDK. I neglected it intentionally. PLEX has inherent value. We could lose 90% of the PLEXers and still be okay. If we lost 90% of the cashers, we would not. and where are you getting the numbers from? Estimates and logic.
What do YOU think would happen if CCP's income dropped by 90%? |
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
1
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:11:00 -
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Are those actual statistics or just a random guess? If those are really, I feel worried about eve. "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! |
Perramas
Pan Caldarian Ventures
21
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:12:00 -
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Sakurako Kimino wrote:and where are you getting the numbers from?
Everyone has the numbers you just have to pull them out of your ass. |
Mahakaharashi RedEagle
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:18:00 -
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Yes numbers are down, as being said that's partially because of some AAA titles that has been, or will be released in near future.
Second part goes to CCP's treatment of EVE and their general attitude towards to playerbase seen in past several months (years?) so a lot of people stopped playing or even unsubbed. Company is now trying to fix the damage, it does look like they are on the right path, but we'll see about it - trust is very hard to gain, yet so easy to lose. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1529
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:20:00 -
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Dr Karsun wrote:Are those actual statistics or just a random guess? If those are really, I feel worried about eve. It's the numbers EVE Offline has collected through the API, just presented in a way that makes for better comparison and remoing the noise normally introduced by not taking the patterns of weekdays into account (e.g. Sundays almost always being the most populated; Fridays regularly having the lowest PCUs, and Saturdays usually being fair approximations of the weakly averages). GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2011.11.17 17:51:00 -
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There is a lot of reasons why the numbers are down, economic decline of the west, increased compitition, poor expansions. and in-game stagnation along with skyrocketing plex prices and so on. It's going to need more than graphical updates to turn this around, after all we need a reason to playing and right now there isn't any. A lot of people are just bored. |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
58
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:04:00 -
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Ann133566 wrote:There is a lot of reasons why the numbers are down, economic decline of the west, increased compitition, poor expansions. and in-game stagnation along with skyrocketing plex prices and so on. It's going to need more than graphical updates to turn this around, after all we need a reason to playing and right now there isn't any. A lot of people are just bored.
Actually I think the sharp rise in PLEX prices (apart from raw speculation) is what several others have stated.
There's a lot of more less bitter vets pondering getting back, they have phat wallet in EvE, are tempted but not sure about CCP yet.
So they keep their RL wallets closed, and are playing with their EvE ones.
There has also been several "How To Play EvE For Free!" guides pushed on the interwebs, leading lots of people to also keep their RL wallet closed.
Most people like the direction of the "New CCP", but most people wait for CCP to actually deliver. And not just on SiSI.
I'd guess that the real measure will be looking at both PLEX prices and PCUs in january. |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
135
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:23:00 -
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The big drop on nov 12 is obviously Skyrim induced I live, I post, I slay. I am content. |
Cedar Locus
Superfission
17
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:40:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:The big drop on nov 12 is obviously Skyrim induced
get out of here, i never even heard of that game untill i googled it, its not even the same genre |
Hero Tackler
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.11.17 18:47:00 -
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Skyrim, MechWarrior 3, BF3, Saints Row 3....
I remember the 50k+ days, I haven't seen that since Tyrannis. I think if CCP would push all the -10 gankers back to null sec the bears would come back and we'd have target rich environments again. More meta than you |
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