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Roxors
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Posted - 2006.06.07 14:22:00 -
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being ransomed by an anti pirate is something of a twisted state.. a pirate as i would define it is a character that profits from threatening other characters.
an anti-pirate is a vigilante out to take out pirates.. ransoming would kind of turn you into a pirate. an anti-pirate ransoming a pirate is kind of hypocritical.
when it comes down to actions there is really very little difference between a pirate and an anti-pirate. the one noticable difference is that a pirate needs to stay trustworthy to continue being an effective pirate. an anti-pirate (as far as i can tell) has no practical gameplay use for honor. honor to an anti-pirate is a matter of roleplay where as to a pirate it's a mechanic of thier profession. you just dont pay bounties to someone you dont trust.
more on topic of the OP.. i think most pirates would go down in a firey ball of rubble trying to subdue thier taret.
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2006.06.08 04:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Tityana
Has any pirate actually been ransomed? I know i certainly have never been given the opportunity! I guess the 'fame' of the killmail of certain players/corps overrides the attraction of iskies?
When i were in w0mbles we actually ransomed a few pirates even a snigg one. Dont think any1 payed tho and ended up in cloning wat rather quick 
But these day's ive turned over the burden of infesting aunenen to Nazz and Psyc 
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Thut'ankh Amon
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Posted - 2006.06.08 05:55:00 -
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depends on situation really, if i would need hour to assemble new ship (and didnt have time) and if the ransom was reasonable and offered in good style then i would propably pay
I'ja'me ro'vu Amon
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Voculus
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Posted - 2006.06.08 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: LodhiWhen i were in w0mbles we actually ransomed a few pirates even a snigg one. Dont think any1 payed tho and ended up in cloning wat rather quick [)
But these day's ive turned over the burden of infesting aunenen to Nazz and Psyc
I haven't seen any Wombles there in some time. Seems ID is camping the Nonni gate too often for them to find any targets.
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.06.08 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus
Originally by: LodhiWhen i were in w0mbles we actually ransomed a few pirates even a snigg one. Dont think any1 payed tho and ended up in cloning wat rather quick [)
But these day's ive turned over the burden of infesting aunenen to Nazz and Psyc
I haven't seen any Wombles there in some time. Seems ID is camping the Nonni gate too often for them to find any targets.
You can't be looking very hard.
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Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Ceiri
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Posted - 2006.06.08 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Roxors
when it comes down to actions there is really very little difference between a pirate and an anti-pirate. the one noticable difference is that a pirate needs to stay trustworthy to continue being an effective pirate. an anti-pirate (as far as i can tell) has no practical gameplay use for honor. honor to an anti-pirate is a matter of roleplay where as to a pirate it's a mechanic of thier profession. you just dont pay bounties to someone you dont trust.
The difference between pirates and anti-pirates couldn't be more plain. They're 180 degrees from each other! Pirates hunt victims. Anti-pirates hunt victimizers.
All the difference in the world.
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Roxors
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Posted - 2006.06.08 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Roxors on 08/06/2006 13:29:59
Edited by: Roxors on 08/06/2006 13:29:23
Originally by: Ceiri
Originally by: Roxors
when it comes down to actions there is really very little difference between a pirate and an anti-pirate. the one noticable difference is that a pirate needs to stay trustworthy to continue being an effective pirate. an anti-pirate (as far as i can tell) has no practical gameplay use for honor. honor to an anti-pirate is a matter of roleplay where as to a pirate it's a mechanic of thier profession. you just dont pay bounties to someone you dont trust.
The difference between pirates and anti-pirates couldn't be more plain. They're 180 degrees from each other! Pirates hunt victims. Anti-pirates hunt victimizers.
All the difference in the world.
your talking about intent.. i was talking about actions.. what if a "pirate" was merely trying to save the belt from the ecological presure that miners put on them?
read my post again. another way to put what i said is that the main difference between pirates and anti-pirates is what they have to tell themselves to get to sleep at night.. thier actions however are virtualy indistinguishable from each other.
not that i have anything against pirating or anti-pirating... its just that the anti pirates tend to have a fairly hypocritical view of things.. its as if they somehow think they arent pirates just because they only go after other pirates.
if you were a cop and you came around a corner and saw a guy shooting another guy so you pulled your gun and shot him... at the end of the day your both killers..
a pirate is a pirate.. it doesnt matter what prefix they put in front of the word pirate.. they're still pirates.. nothing wrong with that. i just have to laugh though when i see some pirates claim to be superior to other pirates because of thier choice of targets.
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Zenn Bu
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Posted - 2006.06.08 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Roxors
what if a "pirate" was merely trying to save the belt from the ecological presure that miners put on them?
Hahaha, classic 
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Keeng Berksa
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Posted - 2006.06.08 19:34:00 -
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If he was a smack talking idiot I would tell him to get f**ked. If he was a professional pirate, asking a reasonable ransom... I would probably pay unless the ship was a frigate outfitted from the corp hangar. Its all about how much you lose, if I buy a caracal, make 15 mil ratting in it, and then I am being ransomed, I'll tell him no. At 7mil per caracal, including insurance, modules, ect, I havent lost any money compared to what I have made off the ship.
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Xenios Alfar
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Posted - 2006.06.08 19:41:00 -
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Depends on what mood im in, if i feel the need to pay rather than die then i often pay the ransom but most of the time i flip them the bird and watch the pretty bang =]
-Xenios Alfar
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Jordania
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Posted - 2006.06.09 02:23:00 -
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Would depend on the situation I guess. Do I have another ship handy? Is it a reasonable ransom? I have payed ransoms before while I was pirating and got caught myself... he asked a reasonable price for my ship, I payed. I try to do the same thing and all I get is smack. It really is a situation dependent thing I think.
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Ceiri
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Posted - 2006.06.09 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Roxors
your talking about intent.. i was talking about actions.. what if a "pirate" was merely trying to save the belt from the ecological presure that miners put on them?
Go ahead and tell me what ecological purpose asteroids serve. I can't wait.
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Agama
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Posted - 2006.06.09 05:06:00 -
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I have paid in the past and would in the future if it was handled fairly and smack free. Otherwise I don't mind taking the clone tube back home.
But to be honest the anti-pirates just tend to pod on sight more than the pirates for me.
'Death solves all problems- no man, no problem' J.V. Stalin, 1918
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.06.09 06:47:00 -
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we pirate the pirates and the official line is, dont even ask for ransom.
why?
cus real pirates have good bounty and claiming that 15mill off their head is plenty
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Jesus
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Posted - 2006.06.09 08:58:00 -
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will i pay not a chance in hell.
aslong as i have ammo in my guns cap on my ship and 1 HP left i am still able to fight and i dont know what they person the other side has so i will fight till i go pop
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:33:00 -
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I'm not a pirate, but I was once killing a -4.6 sec pirate while tanking sentries in my imperial issue apoc (with jamesw in a domi) and he offered 50 mil ransom, we accepted and let him go being the nice anti-pirates that we are.
jamesw actually got that on fraps but lazy bugger hasn't released it 
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Roxors
Edited by: Roxors on 08/06/2006 13:29:59
Edited by: Roxors on 08/06/2006 13:29:23
Originally by: Ceiri
Originally by: Roxors
when it comes down to actions there is really very little difference between a pirate and an anti-pirate. the one noticable difference is that a pirate needs to stay trustworthy to continue being an effective pirate. an anti-pirate (as far as i can tell) has no practical gameplay use for honor. honor to an anti-pirate is a matter of roleplay where as to a pirate it's a mechanic of thier profession. you just dont pay bounties to someone you dont trust.
The difference between pirates and anti-pirates couldn't be more plain. They're 180 degrees from each other! Pirates hunt victims. Anti-pirates hunt victimizers.
All the difference in the world.
your talking about intent.. i was talking about actions.. what if a "pirate" was merely trying to save the belt from the ecological presure that miners put on them?
read my post again. another way to put what i said is that the main difference between pirates and anti-pirates is what they have to tell themselves to get to sleep at night.. thier actions however are virtualy indistinguishable from each other.
not that i have anything against pirating or anti-pirating... its just that the anti pirates tend to have a fairly hypocritical view of things.. its as if they somehow think they arent pirates just because they only go after other pirates.
if you were a cop and you came around a corner and saw a guy shooting another guy so you pulled your gun and shot him... at the end of the day your both killers..
a pirate is a pirate.. it doesnt matter what prefix they put in front of the word pirate.. they're still pirates.. nothing wrong with that. i just have to laugh though when i see some pirates claim to be superior to other pirates because of thier choice of targets.
You shoot everyone, we try to stop you shooting everyone.
Theres no way to argue yourself out of that one.
Your actions are very similar to those of pirates of old who sailed the middle Americas terrorising colonies and merchant shipping.
You're an evil pirate awho must be put down, accept it. :)
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Roxors
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Posted - 2006.06.09 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ceiri
Originally by: Roxors
your talking about intent.. i was talking about actions.. what if a "pirate" was merely trying to save the belt from the ecological presure that miners put on them?
Go ahead and tell me what ecological purpose asteroids serve. I can't wait.
exactly my point. there isnt any substance to the claim. the action is the same regaurdless of what non-gameplay backstory you cook up for it.
Originally by: welsh wizard
Edited by: welsh wizard on 09/06/2006 11:34:00
Originally by: Roxors
Edited by: Roxors on 08/06/2006 13:29:59
Edited by: Roxors on 08/06/2006 13:29:23
Originally by: Ceiri
Originally by: Roxors
when it comes down to actions there is really very little difference between a pirate and an anti-pirate. the one noticable difference is that a pirate needs to stay trustworthy to continue being an effective pirate. an anti-pirate (as far as i can tell) has no practical gameplay use for honor. honor to an anti-pirate is a matter of roleplay where as to a pirate it's a mechanic of thier profession. you just dont pay bounties to someone you dont trust.
The difference between pirates and anti-pirates couldn't be more plain. They're 180 degrees from each other! Pirates hunt victims. Anti-pirates hunt victimizers.
All the difference in the world.
your talking about intent.. i was talking about actions.. what if a "pirate" was merely trying to save the belt from the ecological presure that miners put on them?
read my post again. another way to put what i said is that the main difference between pirates and anti-pirates is what they have to tell themselves to get to sleep at night.. thier actions however are virtualy indistinguishable from each other.
not that i have anything against pirating or anti-pirating... its just that the anti pirates tend to have a fairly hypocritical view of things.. its as if they somehow think they arent pirates just because they only go after other pirates.
if you were a cop and you came around a corner and saw a guy shooting another guy so you pulled your gun and shot him... at the end of the day your both killers..
a pirate is a pirate.. it doesnt matter what prefix they put in front of the word pirate.. they're still pirates.. nothing wrong with that. i just have to laugh though when i see some pirates claim to be superior to other pirates because of thier choice of targets.
Pirates shoot everyone, we try to stop them shooting everyone.
Theres really no argument...
Most Eve pirates actions are very similar to those of pirates of old who sailed the middle Americas terrorising colonies and merchant shipping.
They're evil pirates who must be put down, best just accept it. :)
okie and thats fine.. thats cool.. like i said i have nothing against the actions.. its when the anti-pirates try to pretend they are somehow morally superior to the pirates when they are commiting basically the same actions..
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2006.06.09 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 09/06/2006 21:12:04
Originally by: Deja Thoris
I'd never pay a ransom.
I'm a rich bugger and I can always buy a new ship. I've never seen dignity for salw on the market though
What has dignity have to do with paying a ransom to escape having to buy a new ship?
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Nazzerin
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Posted - 2006.06.10 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Voculus
Originally by: LodhiWhen i were in w0mbles we actually ransomed a few pirates even a snigg one. Dont think any1 payed tho and ended up in cloning wat rather quick [)
But these day's ive turned over the burden of infesting aunenen to Nazz and Psyc
I haven't seen any Wombles there in some time. Seems ID is camping the Nonni gate too often for them to find any targets.
As from today ID will be jammed, ganked and sniped if seen in Aunenen.
They backstabbed a member of w0mbles while he were in gang with them.
They have already suffered the consequenses of this and a "friendly" mail offering them free passage out of Aunenen has been sent. If rejected we have no other option then to unleash the wrath of w0mbles 
Were back and ure bout to die
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.06.10 00:39:00 -
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pirates like ID is definetly not to be trusted to keep their word at anytime.
unlike w0mbles that always keep their word ID does not keep their word and doesnt deserve any mercy, go w0mbles!
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.06.10 16:22:00 -
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Id rather self destruct, but depends on what im flying and who is doing the randsoming.
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.06.10 16:41:00 -
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It's a business decision: if the price is around or below my replacement cost, I'll pay.
Never been in that situation though, but as a pirate, I would probably find it highly ironic if I ever get into that situation. for some reason, people tend to want me dead, so it will probably never happen.
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Kresh Vladir
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Posted - 2006.06.11 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 11/06/2006 19:04:21
Originally by: Verone
This has happened to me once, I was flying an enyo and went up aganist an eagle...
I didn't pay because the intended victim asked me for 50 million, and to be honest I probably would have paid for the fun of it, if the price had been a bit lower.
i was flying a omen once and ran into ikvars maller and he asked me for a 1v1 so i went to the station and fitted up w/ 4 medium nos on and slowly my 3 light drones got him to low armor so i ransomed him
lets just say verone came in and killed me
btw is any1 else having posting problems where it doesint post at all or only post half of what u put in?
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