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FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:08:00 - [1] so im in the middle of a fleet battle and so locked up i cant do anything. whats up guys?:-p Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Demitri Klashnikov	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:09:00 - [2] Me too FPC, -----------------------------------------------
KingAc	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:10:00 - [3] Edited by: KingAc on 03/06/2006 22:09:59 The search of the kladdkaka will be a hard one do to the lag moster :P
KingAc	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:11:00 - [4] 80 vs 90-110mybe
Aegis Osiris	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:11:00 - [5] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken so im in the middle of a fleet battle and so locked up i cant do anything. whats up guys?:-p Well, I've decided to take up toad licking as an alternate treatment for long term depression. Other then that, nothin' I guess ________________________________________________ This thread does not exist
Leno	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:11:00 - [6] how big are the fleets? (about) --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:11:00 - [7] by the time my guns activated i had slowboated 100km from the target. he diddnt move. idid. i go under 200m/s. lol. i think im dying in a belt i warped away to...duno, saw the damage messages but not the rats/belts, and couldnt warp. crashed. cant get back in. o.0 Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:12:00 - [8] I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate?
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:12:00 - [9] Im dead and i never saw what killed me or was able to respond. i cant even get in game after crash...i do see my wallet is bigger. lol. terrific way to lose a valuable ship! thanks ccp! Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Leno	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:13:00 - [10] heh, i mean we did 20v60 yesterday and except for maybe 1 or 2 guys it ran fine... then again that is only about half the total numbers of yours --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Leno Originally by: SengH I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate? 42 doesnt work.. tried that already.. You WOULDNT want 42 volts going through your brand spanking new computer would you :P.
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:14:00 - [12] this lag is worse than the 150 v 150 xetic foe blobs. ive NEVER experienced lag this bad, in all my time in eve. im on a high speed connection on a fast comp..lol Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Leno	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:14:00 - [13] Originally by: SengH I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate? 42 --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Strikeman	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:15:00 - [14] not being able to log in again = no funny stuff :( this is like the EVE Card Game; slowboating it, turnbased. -- ISK is not your goal. If it is, you are playing the wrong game.
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:16:00 - [15] heh yea cant log in. was never shot during the fleet battle, and never fired in 15 min. finally managed to warp, and died to belt rats i guess...they + roids never loaded and i could not warp out, it just wouldnt do it in the lag. woo:( Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
KingAc	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:16:00 - [16] Edited by: KingAc on 03/06/2006 22:16:46 oh im in....wait still lag :P
teqNo	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:16:00 - [17] 200 in local when we jumped in, took me 10 minutes to even start moving ;( _
Leno	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:16:00 - [18] Originally by: SengH Originally by: Leno Originally by: SengH I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate? 42 doesnt work.. tried that already.. You WOULDNT want 42 volts going through your brand spanking new computer would you :P. Yes i'd love it, i like to live dangerously --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Trina Tron	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:17:00 - [19] I lagged so bad when my scorp blew I got the mail but my pod wouldnÆt drop even after about 2-3minutes of waiting for it. I logged out and tried to get back in but it doesnÆt seem to be working =/ The first 1 minute though I was actually able to shoot and jam, anything after that was just lag =(
Dri Kulsane	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:19:00 - [20] I should have warped out to a planet, then CTD and now I cannot relog.
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:19:00 - [21] I will say that I do keep seeing MC guys logging in and out a LOT.. so it sounds like there was something going wrong :-/ -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.
Svett	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:20:00 - [22] MC is just trying to cover up a major loss, blaming it on lag. edit : CRAP WRONG ACCOUNT
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:20:00 - [23] yea, ctd and cant relogg either. maybe for the first time ever i will get a pvp loss replaced by ccp. dosent hold breath Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:20:00 - [24] Sounds like you all are having fun What region are you fighting in ? Lag seems to be highly dependant on the system/region, 9cg was awefull too :/
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:21:00 - [25] Seleene is primary ? .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:22:00 - [26] OMG!!! im in! in a pod! lol. Think i was lagged? look at the killmail! lol Victim: FowlPlayChiken Alliance: Mercenary Coalition Corp: Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Destroyed: Sleipnir System: BWF-ZZ Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Juggernaut Torpedo / Guristas (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:23:00 - [27] Don't post killmails :( hehe -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:24:00 - [28] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken OMG!!! im in! in a pod! lol. Think i was lagged? look at the killmail! lol Victim: FowlPlayChiken Alliance: Mercenary Coalition Corp: Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Destroyed: Sleipnir System: BWF-ZZ Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Juggernaut Torpedo / Guristas (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 Tsk, you were just afk at a gate or belt hiding from the real battle, just admit it!
Morrganna	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:25:00 - [29] Originally by: SengH Originally by: Leno Originally by: SengH I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate? 42 doesnt work.. tried that already.. You WOULDNT want 42 volts going through your brand spanking new computer would you :P. jus one thing though 42 volts wouldnt be enough to run on most have 240 coming straight in and most things like computors run on 120
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:25:00 - [30] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken OMG!!! im in! in a pod! lol. Think i was lagged? look at the killmail! lol Victim: FowlPlayChiken Alliance: Mercenary Coalition Corp: Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Destroyed: Sleipnir System: BWF-ZZ Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Juggernaut Torpedo / Guristas (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 You do know that having any form of gang mod fitted (cyno field is considered a gang mod) makes the rats target you first. At least that was the case before the patch.
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:26:00 - [31] Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 03/06/2006 22:26:25 i warped to a belt warping out after clicking warp for 15min. got up to speed in belt but couldnt warp. was not scrambled. rats/roids never loaded; all i saw was the damage messages. at 6/7 of my sheidl (remaining) i crashed and could not get back in for 15min Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Svett	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:26:00 - [32] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken OMG!!! im in! in a pod! lol. Think i was lagged? look at the killmail! lol Victim: FowlPlayChiken Alliance: Mercenary Coalition Corp: Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Destroyed: Sleipnir System: BWF-ZZ Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Juggernaut Torpedo / Guristas (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 BASTARDS KILLED YOUR HOE
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:29:00 - [33] Edited by: Nafri on 03/06/2006 22:32:53 Thats the best fleetbattlekillmail ever Loosing a 300mio Command Battlecruiser to gaterats in the middle of a fleetbattle with noone else shooting you I wonder how GMs will explain you that everything went fine? Anyway, my little lag story from yesterday: Wanted to go to 4c to kill that goonie fleet. 4 jumps out I get lagged so badly that I couldnt jump anymore. When I was able to get to 4c the fleetbattle just ended and I could join in some camping. Then we moved out, lost 2-3BS cause clients had sync erros (lol, wtf? 3 of our guys were ether 12km from gate or jumped, just depending on who saw it) then I managed to get dropped again and missed the second part of the fleetbattle. So 4h wasted with seeing lag and camping, managed to miss the 10mins of fun totally. At least the other guys had fun From Dusk till Dawn
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:29:00 - [34] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 03/06/2006 22:26:25 i warped to a belt warping out after clicking warp for 15min. got up to speed in belt but couldnt warp. was not scrambled. rats/roids never loaded; all i saw was the damage messages. at 6/7 of my sheidl (remaining) i crashed and could not get back in for 15min Your own fault for warping to a belt with that much lag! But yeah, it's a *****. When module lag gets above 10mins there isn't mauch you can do but just crash your client and wait for it to be over :/
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:29:00 - [35] Originally by: Morrganna Originally by: SengH Originally by: Leno Originally by: SengH I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate? 42 doesnt work.. tried that already.. You WOULDNT want 42 volts going through your brand spanking new computer would you :P. jus one thing though 42 volts wouldnt be enough to run on most have 240 coming straight in and most things like computors run on 120 Umm Vdsat is the voltage at the individual gate level.... that means EVERY transistor on your chip would be running @ 42V. Modern computers only use ~ 12V....
dabster	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:29:00 - [36] aha! So this explains why people way off in Tribute (im guessing this is in BWF), started complaining about MAJOR lag-spikes in some systems o_O ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Nafri Thats the best fleetbattlekillmail ever Loosing a 300mio Command Battlecruiser to gaterats in the middle of a fleetbattle with noone else shooting you I wonder how GMs will explain you that everything went fine? Simple he wasnt tanked, looking @ his midslots. Slepnir has a HUGE kin hole. Guess what dmg types guristas do :P
Leno	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:31:00 - [38] so clearly the big blue has allied with guristas for the war vs the MC --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:34:00 - [39] So where are the conspiracy theory's about either side using the lag to thier advantage or being gm's and haxing the lag to be able to win... ? ^^
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:34:00 - [40] So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? Eve Blacklight Style
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:34:00 - [41] lol, i coulda warped out tho. I mean, even crashed, my ship shoulda autowarped. i wasnt taking much damage from the rats (who never loaded btw). i hit warp. ship up 2 speed. nothing. too much lkag. hell, just warping to belt took me 15min Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:34:00 - [42] Originally by: SengH Originally by: Nafri Thats the best fleetbattlekillmail ever Loosing a 300mio Command Battlecruiser to gaterats in the middle of a fleetbattle with noone else shooting you I wonder how GMs will explain you that everything went fine? Simple he wasnt tanked, looking @ his midslots. Slepnir has a HUGE kin hole. Guess what dmg types guristas do :P But this is still too funny. Even with the kinetic hole you survive some rats for quite some time. From Dusk till Dawn
SengH	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:35:00 - [43] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: SengH Originally by: Nafri Thats the best fleetbattlekillmail ever Loosing a 300mio Command Battlecruiser to gaterats in the middle of a fleetbattle with noone else shooting you I wonder how GMs will explain you that everything went fine? Simple he wasnt tanked, looking @ his midslots. Slepnir has a HUGE kin hole. Guess what dmg types guristas do :P But this is still too funny. Even with the kinetic hole you survive some rats for quite some time. Not really ... you kinda need to get an extender for a BC. Also unhardened BC's kinda die like flies to torps :P.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:36:00 - [44] Originally by: Blacklight So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? server is just a bit laggy this weekend (first time since month I got dropped 4x within 4h) From Dusk till Dawn
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:36:00 - [45] shrug i was bored waiting for lag to let me activate something and started a conversational post, *****ing:-p your right tho BL, of course i dont expect ccp to fix it. would be nice if they reimbursed pvp losses once in a while tho. lol:-p Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
Wizie	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:43:00 - [46] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken shrug i was bored waiting for lag to let me activate something and started a conversational post, *****ing:-p your right tho BL, of course i dont expect ccp to fix it. would be nice if they reimbursed pvp losses once in a while tho. lol:-p I'm sorry, but our logs show nothing wrong with the server at the time of your ships demise. Please contact us if you need anything... but don't hold your breath. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
slip66	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:48:00 - [47] Originally by: SengH Originally by: Morrganna Originally by: SengH Originally by: Leno Originally by: SengH I'm in the middle of doing semiconductor physics homework and will hopefully solve the lag problem in EVE 1 day. In the meantime does anyoine know how to find Vdsat of a MOS Transistor given the impurity concentrations of the oxide, gate and substrate? 42 doesnt work.. tried that already.. You WOULDNT want 42 volts going through your brand spanking new computer would you :P. jus one thing though 42 volts wouldnt be enough to run on most have 240 coming straight in and most things like computors run on 120 Umm Vdsat is the voltage at the individual gate level.... that means EVERY transistor on your chip would be running @ 42V. Modern computers only use ~ 12V.... I used to know some of that stuff but its pretty useless, unless your one of those uber geek engineer types. Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers
munchy	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:49:00 - [48] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Exotic Dancer (Cargo) LOL yeah, sounds like the foundation/ushrakhan vs 5/V fleet battle, they jumped, and then we sat there for an hour getting 500k off the gate (accidentally turning on your mwd as hostiles jump in 4tl). ---
Agent Kenshin	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:49:00 - [49] Heh i wasnt invovled because my pc is being a little weird atm. So I sat on TS listening to them calling the same primary target over and over and over again for 10 mins... Originally by: MAXSuicide only carebears call pvpers 'greifers' ehehehh....
SurVie	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:53:00 - [50] GF Didn't load at all.... :( Well at the end bit i did load just a bit. oh well better luck next time. GF both sides. =============================================
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:55:00 - [51] Well.. lagged for 15 mins and i managed to relog.. worked ok ISH afterthat but still horrible. Thing was, we arent covering for a loss.. O_o seems BB ahd it as bad as well. BDCI Recruitment Officer
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:57:00 - [52] LOL @ ships destroyed in last hour. BDCI Recruitment Officer
Ikvar	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:57:00 - [53] I lagged to **, fired 4 of my 1400 IIs, got a killmail, got primaried, got killed, lagged out for 20 mins, eneded up at a planet and got out with my pod Originally by:** duffmantt the majority of -10's you meet will be highly skilled.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:57:00 - [54] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken OMG!!! im in! in a pod! lol. Think i was lagged? look at the killmail! lol Victim: FowlPlayChiken Alliance: Mercenary Coalition Corp: Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Destroyed: Sleipnir System: BWF-ZZ Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Juggernaut Torpedo / Guristas (laid the final blow) Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 admit it.. u got pwnd by npc's and ur 100 imaginary friends didnt even help u
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.03 22:59:00 - [55] 128 ships destroyed.. thats what you get when half of each fleet is inside the 4 med bubbles 33 pods also. BDCI Recruitment Officer
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:03:00 - [56] Kinda disapointed, my first big fight since the server upgrade i was expecting much more then this. No better then any other laggy fight ive had. I guess its worth petitioning for bwf to be given a node for a while.
LoxyRider	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:04:00 - [57] Originally by: Blacklight So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? No need to be grumpy sel just cause you were one of the worst hit :/.
aeti	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:05:00 - [58] Why are so many of you acting like this is some sort of big suprise? ------
Hellraiza666	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:08:00 - [59] petition response - "STFU, THERE IS NO LAG IN EVE, HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT. If you need any more assistance i will be more than happy to help. Thanks [GM] There Is No Lag In Eve
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:09:00 - [60] /me continues to curse both BB and MC Buwahahaha. Make me unable to play will you! /me attempts to get BT to hurry up and install his broadband so he can stop cursing the fights Anyways, if its as bad as all that, you guys all know where the petition button is and remember, Generatorn should write the base petition everyone uses. ^^ Glad to see that despite the lag there's plenty of death ongoing and that TBB are using those carriers well. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Steve Dave	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:17:00 - [61] Originally by: KingAc 80 vs 90-110mybe hmm - thats strange. We fought in FAT against FIX with those sort of numbers, and it was fine - not perfect - but defintiely playable. Only time I've experienced lag the likes of which you describe are was during the epic 400+ in local battles in 9CG with BoB. And yes - it really does kill the gameplay --
lazyb22	Posted - 2006.06.03 23:59:00 - [62] Welcome to our hell in c-j last weekend. We had the same experience. Couldnt lock anything in 3 different engagements never fired a shot. Help us plz CCP!!! Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin
krissi79	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:10:00 - [63] Edited by: krissi79 on 04/06/2006 00:10:52 strange that bb isnt posting , hmmm meaby bb has develupt some hight tech lag activator 99% less cpu useage on bc propably
K Shara	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:10:00 - [64] i have been in big fleet fights before and never had it this bad. ever ever ever ever. even when PA blobbed up bkg had all their drones out (before the drone patch) so we are talking hundreds of teh buggers, and crap loads of cans and bubble.... it wasnt this bad. <><><><><><><><><> Contraband <><><><><><><><><>
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:14:00 - [65] Originally by: Blacklight So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? ****, first time ive ever thought that..... Signtaure removed. - Petwraith
Valkazm	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:26:00 - [66] yeah i soooo see how this is worthy of Alliance and organization discussion perhaphs moving it into general ?
Jirad TiSalver	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:59:00 - [67] As one of the people involved with the [blue] fleet i must say i am very very unhappy with the lag. Wasn't sure if it was my internet or the servers (guess now it was the servers). I to was destroyed without getting a shot off. 100 million isk rook down the tube :( To CCP: FIX IT!!! To MC: I'm glad you guys descided to jump in and congrat's for holding the gate, i think you guys won that fight, But i think both sides took some heavy losses. BTW not smacking but did some of you guys get killed by our POS's? To [BLUE] and allies: I thank everyone again for coming to support us and the carebear frontier. I hope this lag fest didn't deter the minds of those helping us to defend the pill and the rights of newer players access to 0.0 security space As my internet has been f*#ked up for weeks and is worse tonight. I'm gone for the night to get drunk. Have a good night :) . . . .
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2006.06.04 00:59:00 - [68] was this why we couldnt fit in 68? :P its a conspiracy to let RAT keep farming that complex ofc, the whole "contract" is nothing but a ploy, bwa.ha...haha doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Altai Saker	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:05:00 - [69] heh for once I agree with blacklight here in words and attitude Lag is just one of those too bad so sad things EVERYONE deals with. oh please make a post on some informal boards with the answers to your petitions, those things are always hilarious :)
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:08:00 - [70] Originally by: Jirad TiSalver BTW not smacking but did some of you guys get killed by our POS's? Yep, in the lag a lot of people clicked on planets and ended up at moons I must commend BB for their valiant defence of BWF against a force that they knew was much more experienced. Also with that, there was no smack at all (aside from the crazy guy now in a noob corp) Just a pity the lag ruined what could have been a very nice fleet battle. Oh well, hopefully CCP can sort it out quickly and we can have some more exciting battles. (Unlikely i know but we can hope) BDCI Recruitment Officer
Wizie	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:14:00 - [71] Looking through the MC killboard, I am getting the feeling that BB just ordered everybody to get in something big and put random mods on to show up in force. Understandable that BB is a industrial alliance, and should not be expected to overcome tough PvP groups like MC, but I must seriously question the planning put in by the members of BB. Shield tanking almost all your Scorpions... is BAD. Cap recharger fitted Megathrons with Blasters... are bad. This is not meant as smack, but I hope that BB leaders can get there act together, and get some kind of communication infrastructure that lets people know how/what to fit on fleet ships... ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
Dorah Hawkwing	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:24:00 - [72] Yes... compared to the lag in the big battles in tribute during the last several months, this one was bad. But interresting.
Redbow	Posted - 2006.06.04 01:46:00 - [73] Originally by: Steve Dave Originally by: KingAc 80 vs 90-110mybe hmm - thats strange. We fought in FAT against FIX with those sort of numbers, and it was fine - not perfect - but defintiely playable. Only time I've experienced lag the likes of which you describe are was during the epic 400+ in local battles in 9CG with BoB. And yes - it really does kill the gameplay Steve, if I recall we all had help that day from CCP they watched and set us up a node just for the battle I lost 2 T2 ravens that day, but I never saw no lag that day. man that was fun wish it was like that all the time. Normally in large fleet battles all I see is the station and so you died eh? lol hope a fix is in the works makes me want to cough cough mine in empire
Equinox II	Posted - 2006.06.04 02:41:00 - [74] Originally by: munchy and then we sat there for an hour getting 500k off the gate (accidentally turning on your mwd as hostiles jump in 4tl). I did that in this battle, I landed in a bubblebath when I jumped in, so I turned on the mwd to get out of the bubbles.. Thing is.. MWD wouldn't turn itself off because of the lag, so I ended up about 200 km from the battle before I ran out of cap and MWD shut down.. :/ Also, during the 15++ minutes I was alive I only managed to activate one gun, once.. fun eh? :p VIDS: Raven Showdown \| Contraband Inc \| Rogue Titan
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.06.04 02:47:00 - [75] Split your forces into 10 different groups and have a small battle in each system in IPS. Or just bump this thread more and hope for some more nodes or whatever it is they do in busy systems.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.06.04 02:52:00 - [76] Originally by: LoxyRider Originally by: Blacklight So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? No need to be grumpy sel just cause you were one of the worst hit :/. Your joke made me see past the confrontational talk. Good job side stepping that one.
Kristie	Posted - 2006.06.04 02:53:00 - [77] The great battle of VV-V in the days of the JQA didn't lag this much...seriously. There were more ships in space then too and many more drones. Please CCP do something to increase the cpu or whatever to BWF and the surrounding area.
Shiraz Merlot	Posted - 2006.06.04 03:27:00 - [78] Originally by: LoxyRider Kinda disapointed, my first big fight since the server upgrade i was expecting much more then this. No better then any other laggy fight ive had. I guess its worth petitioning for bwf to be given a node for a while. Or for CCP to use VMware Vmotion. /k
Leo McGarry	Posted - 2006.06.04 03:56:00 - [79] Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Im dead and i never saw what killed me or was able to respond. i cant even get in game after crash...i do see my wallet is bigger. lol. terrific way to lose a valuable ship! thanks ccp! We should start a club!
Death Merchant	Posted - 2006.06.04 04:49:00 - [80] Depending on where the fleet battle is and how many pilots.. I just file a petition before I jump in.That way it can be denied by the time my clone reaches station. Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin
Mi Lai	Posted - 2006.06.04 05:33:00 - [81] Quote: Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 Am I the only one feeling sorry for the Exotic Dancer?
Barbrook Starsight	Posted - 2006.06.04 07:46:00 - [82] I think for the war the gain in the fighting sector needs to be upped. The lag is bad during even small battles.
Smith	Posted - 2006.06.04 07:56:00 - [83] This aint Alliance related....technical forum or general forum be better for this post.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:13:00 - [84] Originally by: Jirad TiSalver As one of the people involved with the [blue] fleet i must say i am very very unhappy with the lag. Wasn't sure if it was my internet or the servers (guess now it was the servers). I to was destroyed without getting a shot off. 100 million isk rook down the tube :( I got to fire a grand total of nine cruise missiles in 15 mins of fighting. Quote: To CCP: FIX IT!!! We just need to petition for a node. Hopefully the Powers that Be will heed our call. Quote: To MC: I'm glad you guys descided to jump in and congrat's for holding the gate, i think you guys won that fight, But i think both sides took some heavy losses. BTW not smacking but did some of you guys get killed by our POS's? We knew you had carriers out and fighters assigned so we expected to take some losses. The MC Killboard should be about 98% accruate right now as people wake up and we fix a few pasting errors. Your support got decimated and I think every Blue-alied BS within about 50 km of the gate bought it. We lost more BS than I would have cared to, but what do you expect when jumping into half a dozen bubbles, etc...? We did lose a couple ships to POS's and I believe those have been posted as well. Overall, as had been said, lag was the winner. Still, it was a great fight simply because I don't think anyone was expecting one on that scale last night... and the war is just starting. Quote: To [BLUE] and allies: I thank everyone again for coming to support us and the carebear frontier. I hope this lag fest didn't deter the minds of those helping us to defend the pill and the rights of newer players access to 0.0 security space MC would like to tip the hat to you guys for sticking it out and remind everyone that enters the area that BWF is considered a war zone. If we see you assisting our targets in gate camps or such, you will be targetted equally as one corp has already discovered this morning. - History of the MC movie!
Nessa Aldeen	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:26:00 - [85] Horrible lag it was, no doubt about it. Been in bigger fleets but this by and large the worst lag i've ever been in. Was only abt 200 ships in total in system so it shouldnt have been so horrible. Anyways, was a good fight just had to calculate on a per min basis when to press the F1 keys
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:27:00 - [86] You are the first to have ever gotten lag. The lag is not your fault. This stuff is not only threadworthy, but multiple thread worthy. I like pizza. Find the oddball. Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Jonaswpl	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:34:00 - [87] Quote: So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? You pay $14.95/month for lag? Karma Police
Aeina Caeraen	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:41:00 - [88] Edited by: Aeina Caeraen on 04/06/2006 08:41:16 Considering BWF is... right there, and thre's only 1 system between you and high-sec, I wonder if you guys were sharing a node with a bunch of empire agent runners :P
Hyllekjeks	Posted - 2006.06.04 08:43:00 - [89] You guys should try and declare war against lag itself I mean there is a fun in beeing hated, it puts a fire in your ass and it gets ******* boring to be loved by everyone
GoGo Yubari	Posted - 2006.06.04 11:57:00 - [90] Originally by: Hyllekjeks You guys should try and declare war against lag itself We'd like to, but there have been no serious contract offers.
Worry	Posted - 2006.06.04 13:37:00 - [91] Originally by: Hyllekjeks You guys should try and declare war against lag itself A war Dec against lag would cause EVE to lock up and leave everyone stuck in the character selection screen.
Rule2k	Posted - 2006.06.04 20:02:00 - [92] Edited by: Rule2k on 04/06/2006 20:02:45 Originally by: FowlPlayChiken OMG!!! im in! in a pod! lol. Think i was lagged? look at the killmail! lol Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 that dancer just for boredom camps? bawk!
Maxwell Power	Posted - 2006.06.04 20:06:00 - [93] Battles like this make me want to not play eve. My experience: Was orbiting the gate in my ares when the fight started, first hostile jumps in, I try to target him and attack, can't lock him. A few more show up, I try locking them all, figuring that the first one that actually locks I'll just attack; one finally does but then because I'm going at 5+km/sec the command to close isn't registered I go out of lock range and lose him. Proceed to start swearing a lot. Double click towards the largest concentration of enemy and try to approach w/ transversal, same thing happens again - by the time I'm able to lock something the super duper lag has moved me to 125km and it's pointless again. I then see some of the hostile battleships clearing the bubble and warping off to planet 7. Since this seems quite pointless (most of enemy fleet is still in bubble so tackling isn't really needed) I figure I'll remove myself from lag city and persue to that planet, lock one of them down and we'll get him there. I warp there and it's the same thing all over again. I can't lock, can't fire, can't approach, even though there's like 5-6 targets to attack. Ok, time for new plan I guess. I get fighters assigned to me, and warp back to the gate; I then figure I'll find one of the new warp ins at range, get in close, lock him down and light him up with fighters. I find a tempest and click on approach - this finally works as I'm able to shut off the MWD before I get out of range, I lock and get off a few rockets before a harpy starts shooting me and I have to warp out. Crap, I just got to actually do something. I warp back in and see a rupture close by, I move to attack this guy w/ my inty and fighters. I again actually manage to lock him, and command fighters to attack. This goes on for a few seconds when I get a jammed bar from a enemy apoc (seems they had no trouble targeting me) who assists the ruppy, then I get hit w/ a big lag spike and when it clears I'm in my pod. I warp out of there having not basically managed to do anything the entire battle. Now, this char is one of my alts, the week before I was in the 9CG battle with everyone there; that was a 200-200 or thereabouts and it was the same thing. In that I was only able to lock one guy with my apoc in about 15+ min of fighting and the one that the server gave me lock on wasn't even the primary target, not that I had any choice over it because of the server lag. Nothing is new about this and that's where I'm complaining; I can remember fights in JKJ in outer ring and PF-346 in 2004 that were actually not as bad (you could do stuff once you waited the 10+ min for the screens to load). What's the point in getting a large force to attack or defend, if you know that the result will only be that you'll be so lagged out and unable to do anything that 1/4 or so of your force will never even get a chance to do anything before it dies, and another 1/4 to 1/2 will end up being spectators and unable to actually participate in the fight? After this battle I figured it was pointless to hang around in BWF and I grabbed another inty out of the station, warped to empire, and then started to try to bag enemy pods retreating back to their base. No lag for that and I had fun trying, probabally because I actually got to do something, unlike the previous 30 minutes. Fights should be won or lost because of skill and the proper use of firepower, not because people may have better connections than you. However, in any kind of fleet fighting, that's not the case, and it's why I learned long ago to avoid it if possible - because winning or losing all usually depends on luck, and that's no way to play a game.
Lowa	Posted - 2006.06.04 20:48:00 - [94] I also lagged out. In a leather armchair at Ginger in downtown Barcelona. Cava is the nectar of Gods! /LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Cowboy	Posted - 2006.06.04 22:59:00 - [95] Originally by: Maxwell Power Battles like this make me want to not play eve. My experience: Was orbiting the gate in my ares when the fight started, first hostile jumps in, I try to target him and attack, can't lock him. A few more show up, I try locking them all, figuring that the first one that actually locks I'll just attack; one finally does but then because I'm going at 5+km/sec the command to close isn't registered I go out of lock range and lose him. Proceed to start swearing a lot. Double click towards the largest concentration of enemy and try to approach w/ transversal, same thing happens again - by the time I'm able to lock something the super duper lag has moved me to 125km and it's pointless again. I then see some of the hostile battleships clearing the bubble and warping off to planet 7. Since this seems quite pointless (most of enemy fleet is still in bubble so tackling isn't really needed) I figure I'll remove myself from lag city and persue to that planet, lock one of them down and we'll get him there. I warp there and it's the same thing all over again. I can't lock, can't fire, can't approach, even though there's like 5-6 targets to attack. Ok, time for new plan I guess. I get fighters assigned to me, and warp back to the gate; I then figure I'll find one of the new warp ins at range, get in close, lock him down and light him up with fighters. I find a tempest and click on approach - this finally works as I'm able to shut off the MWD before I get out of range, I lock and get off a few rockets before a harpy starts shooting me and I have to warp out. Crap, I just got to actually do something. I warp back in and see a rupture close by, I move to attack this guy w/ my inty and fighters. I again actually manage to lock him, and command fighters to attack. This goes on for a few seconds when I get a jammed bar from a enemy apoc (seems they had no trouble targeting me) who assists the ruppy, then I get hit w/ a big lag spike and when it clears I'm in my pod. I warp out of there having not basically managed to do anything the entire battle. Now, this char is one of my alts, the week before I was in the 9CG battle with everyone there; that was a 200-200 or thereabouts and it was the same thing. In that I was only able to lock one guy with my apoc in about 15+ min of fighting and the one that the server gave me lock on wasn't even the primary target, not that I had any choice over it because of the server lag. Nothing is new about this and that's where I'm complaining; I can remember fights in JKJ in outer ring and PF-346 in 2004 that were actually not as bad (you could do stuff once you waited the 10+ min for the screens to load). What's the point in getting a large force to attack or defend, if you know that the result will only be that you'll be so lagged out and unable to do anything that 1/4 or so of your force will never even get a chance to do anything before it dies, and another 1/4 to 1/2 will end up being spectators and unable to actually participate in the fight? After this battle I figured it was pointless to hang around in BWF and I grabbed another inty out of the station, warped to empire, and then started to try to bag enemy pods retreating back to their base. No lag for that and I had fun trying, probabally because I actually got to do something, unlike the previous 30 minutes. Fights should be won or lost because of skill and the proper use of firepower, not because people may have better connections than you. However, in any kind of fleet fighting, that's not the case, and it's why I learned long ago to avoid it if possible - because winning or losing all usually depends on luck, and that's no way to play a game. I was in the same boat as you . I was flying the ruppy and my armor was getting stripped by something that had me locked and your Ares. I clicked on all my guns and reo hoping they activated and I would live through the lag.
Ajaya	Posted - 2006.06.04 23:27:00 - [96] The official line from CCP in regards to yesterday's battle and the lag was essentially this: "Sorry, we can't reinforce the nodes, the load balancing is automatic. Our logs show no lag in the area and no one else complained about this, and even if there were a problem on our end, there's nothing we could do about it. You'll simply have to move further away from that system if you start to experience lag. Have a nice day, and don't bother replying as there's nothing we can do."
Cowboy	Posted - 2006.06.05 01:18:00 - [97] Originally by: Ajaya The official line from CCP in regards to yesterday's battle and the lag was essentially this: "Sorry, we can't reinforce the nodes, the load balancing is automatic. Our logs show no lag in the area and no one else complained about this, and even if there were a problem on our end, there's nothing we could do about it. You'll simply have to move further away from that system if you start to experience lag. Have a nice day, and don't bother replying as there's nothing we can do." what a fVcking joke... No lag??? Lmao. I guess the former Iraqi info minister now works for CCP and replied to your petition...
Skape Gote	Posted - 2006.06.05 01:35:00 - [98] Originally by: Mi Lai Quote: Destroyed items: Tracking Enhancer II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II Liquid Ozone, Qty: 450 (Cargo) Quake M, Qty: 1500 (Cargo) EMP M, Qty: 1440 (Cargo) Exotic Dancer (Cargo) Cynosural Field Generator I EMP M, Qty: 6 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 EMP M, Qty: 5 Am I the only one feeling sorry for the Exotic Dancer? That made me spit orange Fanta out my nose ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
nickycakes	Posted - 2006.06.05 02:06:00 - [99] Originally by: Ajaya The official line from CCP in regards to yesterday's battle and the lag was essentially this: "Sorry, we can't reinforce the nodes, the load balancing is automatic. Our logs show no lag in the area and no one else complained about this, and even if there were a problem on our end, there's nothing we could do about it. You'll simply have to move further away from that system if you start to experience lag. Have a nice day, and don't bother replying as there's nothing we can do." so those were the exact words? i doubt it. Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
Darth Kidd	Posted - 2006.06.05 10:08:00 - [100] This lag is pretty bad. I wasn't there for the massive lagfest, but on a later engagement, I locked a target, press them buttons for the guns, and it won't fire for like 8 seconds. To bad, I would have laid blow on the target before he warped off, and might have blown him/her up before he/she warped off. After all these server updates and database upgrades. etc...I really didn't expect it. Hope this gets fixed. Btw. To MC, gj all, fun fighting. P.S. sry for any spelling errors (tired)
Ajaya	Posted - 2006.06.05 11:24:00 - [101] Originally by: nickycakes so those were the exact words? i doubt it. Considering it's against the forum rules to quote GM's... I'd guess your doubts would be correct. However, it was surprisingly close to being exactly what was actually said (minus the don't bother responding part, but you get that from the tone of the rest of the message) You know, people would be a lot more understanding of CCP's issues if they actually admitted to them instead of blatently lying to our faces in petition responses. Even a "You're right, there is a problem with lag. Unfortunately we can do nothing at this time but are constantly working to resolve these issues..." would be better than, "Fool, you lie! Our servers are perfect, the hampsters in your computer must have passed out from lack of sustinance, go feed them and see if that solves the issue."
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.06.05 11:42:00 - [102] Originally by: nickycakes I like pizza. Find the oddball. Papa John's baby ! Max
Taurequis	Posted - 2006.06.05 12:05:00 - [103] Edited by: Taurequis on 05/06/2006 12:05:42 Hi, Just out of interest from those who were in fleet battles recently... Huge fight in FAT - Not much lag 9cg - Lotsa Lag Coalition vs RA - Lotsa Lag BB vs MC - Lotsa Lag From checking the killboards and chatting with peeps I don't think there were many carriers in the FAT engagement, where as I presume there were loads at the last three i've mentioned. Is there a chance that the new fighter code and all the calculations the servers would have to do for the fighters be causing extra lag? Like how the pre-optimisation drone code did? Was just an idea that popped into my head in this post upgrade era.... Best Regards, Taurequis
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.05 12:09:00 - [104] Originally by: Taurequis Is there a chance that the new fighter code and all the calculations the servers would have to do for the fighters be causing extra lag? Like how the pre-optimisation drone code did? It's possible, but I think the huge POS network in BWF probably plays as much, if not more, of a factor in the problems there. I'd really like to get some clarification on this one. Then again, the North has always sucked for this sort of thing AFAIK. - History of the MC movie!
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.05 12:34:00 - [105] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Taurequis Is there a chance that the new fighter code and all the calculations the servers would have to do for the fighters be causing extra lag? Like how the pre-optimisation drone code did? It's possible, but I think the huge POS network in BWF probably plays as much, if not more, of a factor in the problems there. I'd really like to get some clarification on this one. Then again, the North has always sucked for this sort of thing AFAIK. also constant war zone have less problems with lag than zones where a new big conflict begins. When we attacked outerring with 250 people, we suffered next to no lag. Harldy any emergency warps and everythhing was smooth. When we attacked goons in 4c, I lagged out 3 jumps from the system and we had lots of lag problems, emergency warps after every jump and parts of our fleet unable to do anything (without beeing in fight) From Dusk till Dawn
Irrilian	Posted - 2006.06.05 13:16:00 - [106] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Taurequis Is there a chance that the new fighter code and all the calculations the servers would have to do for the fighters be causing extra lag? Like how the pre-optimisation drone code did? It's possible, but I think the huge POS network in BWF probably plays as much, if not more, of a factor in the problems there. I'd really like to get some clarification on this one. Then again, the North has always sucked for this sort of thing AFAIK. From my (limited) understanding of how the guts of the game works, Id be reluctant to principally place blame on our POS As we know space is divided up into grids, but theyÆre far more than just some arbitrary cut off value which limits the overview range. They seem core to how the server determines which client needs to exchange what data with the server and other clients. A Grid is like an air traffic control region, it handles the transactions of its local activity and exchanges responsibility of the management of an object with another Grid as the object moves out of its control. When you jumped into our home you didnt have 40 Deathstars saying ôLet me at 'em, let me at 'em! Huh, Uncle Scooby, i'll help you catch the bad guy, right Freddie!", simply because each one is blissfully ignorant until someone warps their ship into its Grid. Eve apparently uses a dynamic load balancer, system resources (CPUs) are distributed to areas of space dependent on the load in those areas. However as the ôfleet battle lagö issue illustrates it may not be a real time dynamic balancing, rather at down time perhaps one server task is to collect statistics on that days load (not just the raw numbers of pilots, but the level of data exchange), this is then combined into some sort of running average of previous days (just like the Donchain Channel on the market history û the spike red tube that shows the range of prices but takes into account previous time), the server then uses such as predictive data to assign nodes amongst the CPUs. Over time areas that see heavy network traffic will thus have a greater share of the resources dedicated to them. Historically I doubt if IPS/Geminate has ever seen such load (it is the armpit of space after all). During peace time though the numbers of pilots in BWF can exceed 100, theyÆre generally all doing predictable things: mining, ratting, sat in the station plotting with the Jovians, rather than having a big party all on one poor Grid. Id be surprised if your client would be happy with a gentlemanÆs agreement between MC and BLUE to try to limit the blob arms race (but you never know), thus it may be a matter of biting the bullet and just trying to cope with the lag until Mr Machonet lets us have a bigger slice of the cAkE. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.05 13:21:00 - [107] Originally by: Irrilian From my (limited) understanding of how the guts of the game works, Wow. prints out to read May I ask what your job is in EVE-Uni, sir? - History of the MC movie!
Death Merchant	Posted - 2006.06.05 13:35:00 - [108] Originally by: Irrilian From my (limited) understanding of how the guts of the game works, Id be reluctant to principally place blame on our POS As we know space is divided up into grids, but theyÆre far more than just some arbitrary cut off value which limits the overview range. Damn, If your understanding is limited...wtf is my understanding? I need to go back to school Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin
Coupo	Posted - 2006.06.05 13:48:00 - [109] PAH while in 9cg i was being chased by an army of fighter, luckily i never lagged out on reaching the escape point.. it kept me on my damn toes though.. being chased by fighters in a battleship with mega lag was NOT what i call fun.. i needed new pants every time i came out of warp :F And i believe the actual carrier pilot or the assigned controler was too lagged out to recall them heh. - I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later
Lowa	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:02:00 - [110] Originally by: Irrilian Some really good stuff! Now here is a guy with a clue and its a big one! Good stuff, thanks for the info and let the good times roll in BWF! (As soon as the servers run a check in activity and realizes ZOMG! DIVERT POWER!!!11eleven!!2!) Cheers, LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:10:00 - [111] Originally by: Jonaswpl Quote: So the lag is bad, and? Deal with it, hold your discipline and come out on top or at the very least you have some of your forces in system. Where's the problem? We, all of us that read/post in this forum don't really expect to have this problem go away any time soon do we? You pay $14.95/month for lag? probably 95% of our gameplay is lag-free, so no, we don't. Unfortunately the 5% seems to indicate that eve is "omg laggy". For what it's worth, I continue to pay my money because I fully expect CCP to make enough improvements that, though lag will always be a factor, it will be manageable.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:17:00 - [112] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Irrilian From my (limited) understanding of how the guts of the game works, Wow. prints out to read May I ask what your job is in EVE-Uni, sir? Translated as: RECRUITMENT IS OPEN TO THE MC! Thanks for that link, irrilian, an excellent and very interesting read.
Chi Prime	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:21:00 - [113] Originally by: Irrilian understanding of how the guts of the game works Oooh, nice one
Alessia Karan	Posted - 2006.06.05 14:27:00 - [114] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Irrilian From my (limited) understanding of how the guts of the game works, Wow. prints out to read May I ask what your job is in EVE-Uni, sir? Sadly enough powerpoint presentations don't make very good reading material
Irrilian	Posted - 2006.06.05 15:01:00 - [115] Edited by: Irrilian on 05/06/2006 15:01:02 Originally by: Seleene Wow. prints out to read May I ask what your job is in EVE-Uni, sir? Just a porter Miss Seleene. Dianabolic, Im quite happy in my job, thus hereÆs to hoping that there still is a job once the rowdiness on campus has died down. Originally by: Alessia Karan Sadly enough powerpoint presentations don't make very good reading material Indeed, I peppered my hypothesis with perhapsÆ and seemÆs for that very reason. It sounds like it was part of an interesting conference (link does include actual mmorpg design articles and not just power point presentations, however not Eve specific ones). Im afraid, my googleFu has not turned up a transcript, so weÆre left with trying to piece together a picture from pretty but incomplete fragments. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö
Hectic	Posted - 2006.06.05 15:21:00 - [116] Irrilian is the most amazing source of actual, logical data, and resources I have ever met. Thanks for the link. I swear he's a human library. An underwater creature. Sig must be under 24000 bytes - Cathath ([email protected]) They ganked my sig!!
Yual	Posted - 2006.06.05 15:31:00 - [117] goes into a nerdity induced coma wakes up blonde Multicast, is that like that thing in that movie where that girl was like "Leelu Dallas Mooltipas". tag for reading later
Dorah Hawkwing	Posted - 2006.06.05 15:38:00 - [118] It was about average in terms of battle si participated. Several of the big ones in D7 actualyl ahd less lag.. some battles had more. And I actualyl got to activate my modules on several targets.. allthough I suspect Cowboy, on who'se armor I helped to chew untill eh warped out,didn't die. grin But yeah.. swapping crystals and targetting new people was a tough job for close in people.
Red Six	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:02:00 - [119] Edited by: Red Six on 05/06/2006 16:05:30 While an interesting peek into the game I'm not sure how truely useful that PDF was for the player since we don't have the transcript of what was discussed with each slide. Though you have to love anyone who manages to slip in a Blues Brothers pic and quote on something like that. Edit: I say this because this high level was covered in dev blogs back in 2003 to some extent. I'll see if I can find those.
Romble	Posted - 2006.06.05 16:30:00 - [120] As opposed to the common thought that Euni is only noobs we do have some awesome Directors, Professors, experienced players etc. Irrilian is one of those who I have the greatest respect for and his combination of in game commitment, knowledge and modesty is unmatched. There you go that is my Euni recruitment post.. well after the war of course :) My MMORPG History: Ac->AO->DAOC->SWG->COH->WoW->Eve
Irrilian	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:27:00 - [121] Originally by: Red Six Edit 2: One dev blog with some high level, can't seem to find the one I'm looking for though: Dev Blog Thanks for that. Apparently Davf= H. Brand gave his lecture at the 2005 Fanfest. So perhaps someone whom attended might be able to fill in the huge blanks. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö
Echo147	Posted - 2006.06.06 00:05:00 - [122] Edited by: Echo147 on 06/06/2006 00:05:50 Edited by: Echo147 on 06/06/2006 00:05:38 Originally by: FowlPlayChiken so im in the middle of a fleet battle and so locked up i cant do anything. whats up guys?:-p IRON commanders have always advised us to download poon when the screen locks up for five minutes

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