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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
3663
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Posted - 2014.05.27 00:02:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Just for the record, Tippia was an INSANELY useful resource for me as a new player back in the day. Never found him to be anything but helpful and polite. Someone from CCP should pay the guy for telling it like it is.
You on the other hand. . .
I've never Understood the Tippia hate mongers.
I always enjoy reading Tippia's posts. I don't always agree with them (rare), but I really admire that they have a constant tone regardless of what is hurled in response, and that I find it really hard to argue with the logic and facts presented.
I think Tippia has some green Vulcan blood.
Back on topic: I find Brave Newbies Inc. really attractive as a corp, as their stated goal is to have fun regardless of the outcome. |
Mithandra
Serene Vendetta
Brawls Deep
10
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Posted - 2014.05.27 11:47:00 -
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As with the rest of eve, you can research, take precautions, check and double check... and still end up with a pile of dross corp
On the other hand you can luck out and end up with a really good bunch of guys.
That's both the best and the worst part of eve.
Stick with it. Its worth it.
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Danny John-Peter
Snuff Box
434
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Posted - 2014.05.27 11:54:00 -
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KINGS OF LOWSEC
(Join Snuff Box) |
Cassius Clayyy
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
13
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:25:00 -
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bravenewbies/
Brave does not care about corp history. We don't even know how to find it. Our EU guys are so active it leaves less content for the rest of us... |
CaliCartel
The One Corp
Brothers of Tangra
2
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:43:00 -
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posting in a stealth "look at me thread" |
Derrick Diggler
I N E X T R E M I S
Circle-Of-Two
6
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:14:00 -
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You can give a newbie a ship and skills and all and she/he will play for a day.
Teach a newbie how to EVE and and he/she will play for life :).
I know because i spent years dong ... well just about nothing. But, you keep training, you keep learning, and one day you will indeed find what you are looking for.
Having said that, try not to jump too many corps. That stuff raises flags, because it gives impression of being a flake.
My advice, such as it is, is to be picky at the start. Not picky in a way where you will keep rejecting corporations on every little thing. But rather be picky in a way where you ask a lot of questions before you join. Make sure you click with folks in corp and that the corp is something you would like to be a part of !!!
Ask very pointedly as to how many players are on during this period of time. It is fairly easy to see when people are talking crap. Also check the age of corp. Check killboards, check corp roster ..... it is a lot of work, but in the end you will be much happier once you do find a corporation that fits you, rather then jump from one to another because you could not be bothered. |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
247
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:18:00 -
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Crixus Niminen wrote:ruining my employment history
Nobody really cares about that, don't worry. It's a story miners tell each other to feel good about never changing anything.
Space lonely? www.multicamchat.com |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
611
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:56:00 -
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Crixus Niminen wrote:... finding a corp that suits me is harder then the game itself.
Im a fairly new player and I'm jumping from corp to corp, ruining my employment history trying to find a place where I could have some fun.
Problems:
1."Yeah we are super active" - 2 player online all day
2."We are super social" - teamspeak is dead
3."Yeah we are EU tz" - they wait for the us comrades to join and then the ops takes place
4."Yeah we do pvp fleets everyday" - nothing is happening
This is my first MMO so maybe I dont know how "guilds" actually look like, but if your corp has 4 active members please dont tell me 10-15. Get some training under your belt and join a large null sec alliance corp. ...one you can trust (read not goons as Mitanni has already stated that they do not care to recruit in game as much as scam those to try to join)
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG] |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
304
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Posted - 2014.05.29 04:59:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Before anyone comes in and smacks you - you aren't wrong.
Most corps are rubbish. On one hand tbf to them it shouldn't have to be a second job and the 'leadership roles' attract people who fail IRL to communicate. On the other they just want grunts for the sake of it. Choose carefully, we can't tell you what to pick.
Talk to people you like and recruit/mentor yourself - it's more about banter than anyone realises. Anyone can create a private chat channel. If your corp obstruct your recruitment (and you're good at it) roll your own corp.
Join every channel you can, keep in touch with people who amuse you in local/forums (and kill you).
That TZ thing you can plug yourself, my peronal fav ppl ingame are way off tz for me, but makes no difference.
gl :)
Keep in mind though, running a successful corp is hard work and dedication. You can be as laid back as you want, but without a proper backbone, you will end up just like those corps you've left so far.
This is as nice as I get.
Best quote ever
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1563
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Posted - 2014.05.29 05:06:00 -
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DrSmegma wrote:Crixus Niminen wrote:ruining my employment history Nobody really cares about that, don't worry. It's a story miners tell each other to feel good about never changing anything.
While i realize that the above comment is not really serious i want to comment anyway, because its partly right.
There is a lot of people that will yell and scream about long employment histories, saying that if you have been in more then 4 corporations in less then 5 years your obviously a spy and so on, however, many of the people who do this is often also the kind of people that freaks out because someone has a bounty on them (come on, anyone who has a bounty must be bad person right  ), or thinks that just because the person in question once shot a MTU he is a pirate.
Recruiters tend to be paranoid, as they should be, but sometimes the paranoia goes a bit to far. This especially seems to be the case with "new" recruiters. New enough to not fully understand what to look for, but old enough to have experienced their first corp theft or awoxer.
However, recruiters who has been around for a while (or just happen to be really good at reading people and trust their gut feeling) tend to be better at judging the potential recruit on more then their employment history. Of course it might raise a red flag if a recruit has been in 20 corporations during the past year, but chances are that if the recruit in question has a good attitude, seems like a good fit, all other back ground checks dont reveal anything suspicious and have a valid story (true or not) that explains the amount of corporations, the recruiter will give the person a chance.
In some cases this happens even if the person has a shady back ground. Again, it all depends on the recruits attitude, and the recruiters feeling about said recruit.
In the long run.. No matter how much research you do on a person, the gut feeling is what decides whether or not the recruit is accepted into the corporation.
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1839
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Posted - 2014.05.29 05:46:00 -
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Remain in NPC corp. Annoy player corps. Win EVE.
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~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1136
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Posted - 2014.05.29 06:15:00 -
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try solo
YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
1053
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Posted - 2014.05.29 10:33:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Welcome to EVE. You have indeed stumbled over the largest problems new players face in this game. Unfortunately, there is little advice to be had in this area other than GÇ£keep at itGÇ¥. There are some proper institutions that will pick up new players and let them run wild, but a huge amount of corps are what you have just described: a fancy outward image with nothing behind it (except maybe some corp taxes that you won't get back). Don't worry about your corp history. Any proper corp will understand that it takes a couple of tries to get it right. In fact, most proper corps will probably be something of the opposite of what you've come across: nothing fancy to inflate their purported exploits, but rather just some basic contact info. Look for those instead. One thing to remember here is that some of them will require some kind of pseudo-interview to get in GÇö remember that the interview goes both ways. You need to figure out if they're a good fit for you just as much as they need to figure out if you're a good fit for them. A slightly more counter-intuitive way to find a corp is to remember that failure is both an option and not optional: there are plenty of stories about players who have gone into lowsec to get blown up over and over, and who have then ended up being recruited into the corp that shot at them. After all, they've demonstrated the kind of determination and spunk that the corp likes to see. It's hardly a guarantee, but it is a way to start communicating with other players and make that first problematic connection. 
Any pvp corp that doesn't do an interview, provide links to their killboard when asked or require an api that they actually check is to be avoided. I am shy of recuiting people that don't also try and interview me about the corp. If they don't have standards and want to check we meet them then they are unlikely to meet ours.
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
DrSmegma
Smegma United
248
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Posted - 2014.05.29 11:29:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:DrSmegma wrote:Crixus Niminen wrote:ruining my employment history Nobody really cares about that, don't worry. It's a story miners tell each other to feel good about never changing anything. While i realize that the above comment is not really serious i want to comment anyway, because its partly right.
I was completely serious. 
Space lonely? www.multicamchat.com |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
424
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Posted - 2014.05.29 12:23:00 -
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If you have JUST started, and are truly a new player and not just a spai, skill point loss isn't much of an issue.
Create a couple of different characters in different starter corps; you pick the corp when you pick the bloodline of your chosen race. You may be surprised to find that a couple of the starter NPC corps have a robust community and ties to player-run corps as well; personally, I recommend School of Applied Knowledge (Caldari race, Achura bloodline). It was thus quite some time before I left that starter corp.
From building bonds in the starter corp, you can better choose any number of player corps or start your own. Or stay in the starter corp for a little while longer, since it is not particularly restricting for the new player in the least. You may eventually outgrow it, however. If that time comes, you'll know when and what it means.
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Shey Nabali
Collapsed Out
Shadow Cartel
10
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Posted - 2014.05.29 12:39:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:KINGS OF LOWSEC
(Join Snuff Box)
I was gonna post something snarky and egotistical about *Shadow Cartel: High Lords of Low-Sec"... But, um. *Itsme*.
Really glad I took a shower after I got off work yesterday.
<--- Still owns a dread. |
Radric Davids
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
33
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Posted - 2014.05.29 13:02:00 -
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OP - most pubbie corps (ones that you would join from the corp finder in game) are horrible. Join a corp based on an out-of-game community or at least one that has some definition like E-uni, RvB, Fweddit, BNI |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1339
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Posted - 2014.05.29 13:34:00 -
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Crixus Niminen wrote:... finding a corp that suits me is harder then the game itself.
Im a fairly new player and I'm jumping from corp to corp, ruining my employment history trying to find a place where I could have some fun.
Problems:
1."Yeah we are super active" - 2 player online all day
2."We are super social" - teamspeak is dead
3."Yeah we are EU tz" - they wait for the us comrades to join and then the ops takes place
4."Yeah we do pvp fleets everyday" - nothing is happening
This is my first MMO so maybe I dont know how "guilds" actually look like, but if your corp has 4 active members please dont tell me 10-15.
Check a corps details, it will tell you many members that corp has
to get a rough estimate of actual players (excluding alts) there are, do 2 sums
divide it by 3
divide it by 5
it won't always be accurate, but it can give a reasonable guestimate as to real numbers that you could be looking at
there are several sites where you can lookup players, corps & alliances
eve who
battleclinic
zkillboard
to check those various claims .. pretty sure there are others aswell
maybe someone else will link them for you 
have a good read through what Tippia wrote, whilst I disagree with him on some things there is good advice in that post. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3075
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Posted - 2014.05.29 18:48:00 -
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Removed a recruitment post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Winter Archipelago
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
218
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Posted - 2014.05.29 21:42:00 -
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If you're in an area you like, keep flying in that area and pay attention to who is in Local with you. As you start noticing some groups more than others, add those corps and alliances to your standings so they stand out more in Local, and put a few of their CEO's and recruitment folk on your watchlist. As time goes on, you're going to start recognizing which groups are more active in the time you are, and you'll start seeing what type of range they as to where they fly, as well as what they fly (killboards are useful for this, as well).
At the same time, many of them are probably noticing you. Not actively, no, but passively, they're used to seeing your name in Local with them, and they start noticing what you fly, as well, simply because they see you when you're on the undock, or at a gate, or simply passing through on D-Scan.
Once you've identified a few groups who seem to have similar interests and active times as you, see if the have a public channel, and go in there. Chat with them, get to know them better. If they question you, just point out you've noticed them in the same areas that you fly, and were curious about them. As time goes on, as both sides have gotten to know each other better, see if you can start joining them in fleets (this will probably take a while, though some groups are quite willing to let you join fairly early-on).
If you find that both parties mesh well with each other, talk to them about potentially joining their corp. Conversely, if you find that that the two of you don't work out quite so well, you can walk away without any real loss, and yet have still gained a better understanding of them (as well, if things don't work out, the knowledge you gained flying with them may prove useful in the future should you encounter them in a fight :).
Getting yourself into a decent group isn't too difficult, it just takes time and patience. Better, though, to spend some time on it than to end up with a group you aren't so fond of and end up quitting because of it.
Ransoms are accepted in Isk, Ships, Mods, and Dolls. |
Charlie Nonoke
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
12
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Posted - 2014.05.30 09:55:00 -
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Welcome to EVE.
Since you're new, you might find the idea of a high sec perpetual war interesting.
It's a benchmark for yourself to get used to PvP mechanics while staying in high security space, and close to Jita for shopping needs. We are based 2 jumps from Jita.
Joining a low, null or wh corp at the beginning of your capsuleer life might be a little overwhelming. Being thrown into the deep end of things before you have grasped ideas of ship types, your strengths and weaknesses, could prove fatal to your enjoyment of our beloved game. Not to mention ISK costs of a costly mistake in low null or wh.
We aim to bridge this gap, with active fleets, and a smooth learning curve towards PvP.
Though we hate to part ways, we also believe that even if you learnt a single useful thing in PvP, our job here was done as you pursue your future career.
Give us a visit in game channel R-V-B. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
6568
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Posted - 2014.05.30 13:56:00 -
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This is EVE Online. if you can't find a corp that does it for you, MAKE a corp that does it for you lol. |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2014.06.02 14:54:00 -
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Crixus Niminen wrote:... finding a corp that suits me is harder then the game itself.
Im a fairly new player and I'm jumping from corp to corp, ruining my employment history trying to find a place where I could have some fun.
Problems:
1."Yeah we are super active" - 2 player online all day
2."We are super social" - teamspeak is dead
3."Yeah we are EU tz" - they wait for the us comrades to join and then the ops takes place
4."Yeah we do pvp fleets everyday" - nothing is happening
This is my first MMO so maybe I dont know how "guilds" actually look like, but if your corp has 4 active members please dont tell me 10-15.
"M[beep], you think this is a game ?!"*
*it's just a quote and it does not represent my opinion of you.
"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled |
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