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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:09:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Hah! Reading on my tablet, totally missed that part in the OP about being forced to listen unless you attacked it. Now thats just lol. No dev in their right mind would do that. Even the brief example I mentioned you could just dissable the stream. Forcing people to listen to it... yep it's up there among top bad suggestions ever assaulted against GD.
see my above reply to Solecist.
Any easily scannable object that has some kind of purpose and meaning to the person that anchored it can make a good PVP driver, even if you had an 'off' switch for that damn trance crap he's broadcasting.  |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1806
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:12:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Forcing people to listen to something against their will creates ragequitters by the hundreds!
PLEASE! When you think about an idea that affects others, then also think about how it affects others from *their* POV! Er, not sure this argument works well Sol. Screeching at the frivolous proposal stage indicates it's a great idea. Watch now, it'll get ninja added to the Crius Release (aka 'The Highsec Apocalypse'). New ambient noise sound effect 'wailing' background noise. Webvan wrote:No dev in their right mind would do that... Forcing people to listen to it... *cough* tooltips *cough* It's not a great idea to force people into listening to crap they don't want to.
The tooltips aren't even comparable to that. Equally crap, but completely different outcome and ways how it affects the human. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1806
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:14:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Webvan wrote:Hah! Reading on my tablet, totally missed that part in the OP about being forced to listen unless you attacked it. Now thats just lol. No dev in their right mind would do that. Even the brief example I mentioned you could just dissable the stream. Forcing people to listen to it... yep it's up there among top bad suggestions ever assaulted against GD.  see my above reply to Solecist. Any easily scannable object that has some kind of purpose and meaning to the person that anchored it can make a good PVP driver, even if you had an 'off' switch for that damn trance crap he's broadcasting.  You really only care about yourself hu? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
402
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:20:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:You really only care about yourself hu? In case you missed the reply I was referring to. |

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
6525
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:22:00 -
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Tooltips? Meh annoying but not driving me to put one in my brainpan. I mostly hotkey most everything anyway. But forced to listen to certain types of music has been used to break people for brainwashing through the torture. |

Thomas Harding
Flaming Sideburns Social Club
19
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:25:00 -
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Dav Varan wrote:In space nobody can hear you stream.
I have no mouth, and I must stream. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1819
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:30:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Solecist Project wrote:You really only care about yourself hu? In case you missed the reply I was referring to. So there IS no point to it! I see. This socialising can be done less intrusive, simply by talking in local and linking to the youtube vids of your music.
People who do want to socialize do so anyway. Already do what you suggest, but differently, without annoying 99 out of 100 users.
And I doubt Marsha is a nice person. :p https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

Marsha Mallow
775
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:30:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:how it affects the human See my sig to make a complaint on humanitarian grounds... we outsource all that now
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:It would just be another way of socializing with people that share your passions while you're both playing the same game The horror.
TO THE RIPARDMOBILE! |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
402
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:36:00 -
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Hmm I think I should add VIDEOS to the proposal, too!
Why miss out on Guard and Hunter in their black spacesuits, when a resourceful player could broadcast them on the billboard of every single Empire gate? |

Antihrist Pripravnik
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
283
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:37:00 -
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I don't even like the kind of music that my best friends listen and they don't like what I listen 
While the idea of musical EVE is entertaining as a though, I probably wouldn't like any of the music in the vast majority of locals or fleets  My signature got stolen (o.0) |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1825
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:45:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Solecist Project wrote:how it affects the human See my sig to make a complaint on humanitarian grounds... we outsource all that now Which has nothing to do with what I said. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
402
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:50:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:This socialising can be done less intrusive, simply by talking in local and linking to the youtube vids of your music. Not really, no. I was thinking for example of jumping into a new system while solo roaming, hearing music that you like*, then chatting with the dude that's broadcasting it. Way to meet new people.
I don't usually type 'any [insert huge list of artists since I personally love good quality music of all genres] fans in here?' in local of every single system I jump in. And I also enjoy discovering new artists I've never heard about yet.
*Because I'd have the option turned on, you'd have it perma-off obviously... ah, boring details... |

Lexmana
1070
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Posted - 2014.05.28 13:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:A good mic and solid TS connection and I can do this for free without bothering people in local I thought the whole point was to bother local... |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1825
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:01:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Solecist Project wrote:This socialising can be done less intrusive, simply by talking in local and linking to the youtube vids of your music. Not really, no. I was thinking for example of jumping into a new system while solo roaming, hearing music that you like*, then chatting with the dude that's broadcasting it. Way to meet new people. I don't usually type 'any [insert huge list of artists since I personally love good quality music of all genres] fans in here?' in local of every single system I jump in.  And I also enjoy discovering new artists I've never heard about yet. *Because I'd have the option turned on, you'd have it perma-off obviously... ah, boring details... Okay so there's this option that's turned off by default. It will be, because the amount of petitions from new players would drown the GMs.
And who streams the music? CCP? They don't have unlimited bandwith.
Seriously, you can have this already by starting your own community for it and advertising for it. No need for CCP to get involved at all. Needs a bit of coding, though. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1504
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:12:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Services and software for this exists plentyfull and is free.
What's the point? At its core, the point is to give players a powerful and easy-to-use tool to creatively influence the social space around them (corp, fleet, grid, system). The tool could be freely used ''for good' to enrichen a corp or fleet identity or create a pleasing ambiance for everyone to share, or 'for bad' to blast intimidating war-music into the enemy fleet's ears or even just to plss-off the locals, daring them to warp to the music source and shoot it down. Possibilities would be endless, though sure you may find them obnoxious or distracting to core EVE gameplay. But just imagine your favorite movie without its soundtrack.  this sounds nice but i see one problem...
... does Eve have sound?  The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
404
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:19:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:And who streams the music? CCP? They don't have unlimited bandwith.
Seriously, you can have this already by starting your own community for it and advertising for it. No need for CCP to get involved at all. Needs a bit of coding, though. Maybe read the OP? 
Anyway, TL;DR is:
- Third party streams the music - CCP just codes the interface (with third party's help)
- Players pay 1 PLEX to stream X hours of music. Pay-per-use is better than a flat monthly fee imo, since you won't be streaming 24h a day. I honestly have no idea of the current prices, but say it's competitive with any other pay-per-listen service that lets you freely choose your tracks from a huge archive
- Third party takes care of royalties and such - CCP just makes a gobal deal and gives them an agreed % of PLEX revenue
- It's an in-game feature so you can use either a) simple 'right-click' options to stream to your fleetmates, corpmates, etc. or b) highslot mods or deployables to stream on-grid or system-wide to any other player
- Say the override works this way: OFF >> your personal stream >> on-grid >> system-wide. Or something like that
- 'Competitive' part works this way: only one can transmit 'THE SIGNAL' on-grid (say higher meta mods win, same-meta level cancel eachother out) and only one deployable may be anchored in system at a time. Want to broadcast your signal, have to destroy the existing deployable (say easily scannable, no reinforcement, 50,000 HP)
Sorry it wasn't a TL;DR I've added some details. :) |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1836
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:24:00 -
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Can you tell us even more? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
404
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:31:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Can you tell us even more? That's it - pretty simple actually.
Was hoping somebody would be inspired by the concept and improve/build upon it.
Not much enthusiasm so far TBH, but we'll see.  |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1841
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:35:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Can you tell us even more? That's it - pretty simple actually. Was hoping somebody would be inspired by the concept and improve/build upon it. Not much enthusiasm so far TBH, but we'll see.  You exhausted it already.
btw, are you a highseccer? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4492860 Killmails for Wrecks!! Ganker tears, best tears!
White light, shining bright! |

SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
748
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Posted - 2014.05.28 14:37:00 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Imagine you could listen to your own personal playlist while playing EVE... Yes that's what mp3 players are for BUT...
Imagine you could broadcast your playlist to all your fleet... Nice, huh?
Now, imagine you could broadcast your playlist to everybody on-grid with you, say via a 'SpaceAmp' utility highslot mod... Ride of the Valkyries, anyone? Or maybe airhorn Wrecking Ball if you're in PL...
What about broadcasting it to the entire system, with a 'SpaceAmp' deployable? Make your home system rock! Or funky, or classy jazz...
Just imagine travelling through New Eden and listening to a different musical style in each system... And praising (or disapproving of) the locals' tastes in local chat...
Do you prefer your space slient? No problem, scan the 'SpaceAmp' and shoot it down! Then maybe replace it with your own, possibly playing 'The Sound of Silence'...
If CCP made a deal with any music streaming website that allowed you to create your playlist out of thousands of songs, developed a simple EVE-client interface (also handling the in-game broadcast 'rules') and let the partner handle all the streaming (no additional EVE server load), would you pay PLEX for the service?
For the sake of discussion, say 1 PLEX gave you 20 hours of streaming 'rights'. You get to decide all the songs, when to play them and who (if anyone) to broadcast them to, also using in-game tools to interact with other players (modules, deployables).
Deployable space boomboxes would be a hilarious April Fools gag. "Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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