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Vivec Septim The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact 23	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:12:00 - [1] - Quote Were our current trade hubs always considered as hubs of trade? What brought about their status as centers of trade, and were there others in EVE that simply fell out of favor completely? I am very curious about this.
Jur Tissant Hemah Industries 74	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:14:00 - [2] - Quote I think they often correlate with L4 mission givers. Jita also connects to several other 0.9/1.0 systems.
Vivec Septim The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact 23	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:16:00 - [3] - Quote I heard something along those lines. I don't do business often in Jita, so I am unfamiliar with their mission givers. Amarr does have access to L1 and L3 mission givers. I wonder why it became the trade hub as well.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6576	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:19:00 - [4] - Quote http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Jita "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Vivec Septim The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact 23	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:21:00 - [5] - Quote Anyone from the beginning remember how the markets used to be?
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6576	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:23:00 - [6] - Quote The only trade hub was Yulai at first. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Marsha Mallow 784	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:28:00 - [7] - Quote I'm not that old but Yulai was the earlier trade hub, then something happened with superhighways and m0o camping the route etc and Jita emerged, followed by the rest. Jita is convenient - not just because it originally had decent quality agents - but it sits adjacent to 2 other regions. I'm pretty sure The Forge/Citadel and Lonetrek are historically the densest populated highsec areasdue to the popularity of Caldari as a playable race and the density of high level 4 agents. Without wishing to be rude, this is a really common query - it's worth eve-searching or googling these types of queries first :) TO THE RIPARDMOBILE!
Vivec Septim The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact 23	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:31:00 - [8] - Quote Yeah -- but asking here is more personable than a cold Google search lol.
Marsha Mallow 785	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:38:00 - [9] - Quote Fair enough TO THE RIPARDMOBILE!
Ralph King-Griffin Var Foundation inc. 1609	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:40:00 - [10] - Quote Vivec Septim wrote: Yeah -- but asking here is more personable than a cold Google search lol. That is as Nothing compared to the cold bitter contempt the vets have for us for still finding eve as fascinating , the way you clearly do. "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." Unsuccessful At Everything

Vivec Septim The Bene Gesserit Sanctuary Pact 26	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:46:00 - [11] - Quote Thanks -- after reading some other posts on it, I am more enlightened on the trade hubs. Yulai was central due to 'highways' and as player growth came, highways were removed, and thus Yulai lost out to Jita due to Jita's superior position post-highway removal. Interesting stuff, this!
Mr M Sebiestor Tribe 374	Posted - 2014.05.29 20:55:00 - [12] - Quote Before Yulai and the highways there were smaller trading hubs around the starting systems. The first "hub" in Minmatar space was in Hulm since that was the starting system for most traders and builders. It was roughly 20 jumps to one of the Gallente hubs and you could earn some isk just from cross regional trading. The Yulai, Zombie Corp, et al. happened and boom, Jita's your uncle. Share your experience Write for the EVE Tribune www.eve-tribune.com
Marsha Mallow 787	Posted - 2014.05.29 21:01:00 - [13] - Quote It's interesting to consider now [before the Highsec Apocalypse] because I'm personally really hoping the Crius changes undermine the hubs or at least spread people out a bit. We need more minihubs with variety between regions, it'll help fix weekend server overload and create more dynamic trade routes, but also people can make money speculating between them as a mini profession. Jita is just a pain in the backside at the moment. TO THE RIPARDMOBILE!
Noriko Mai 1369	Posted - 2014.05.30 01:22:00 - [14] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: It's interesting to consider now [before the Highsec Apocalypse] because I'm personally really hoping the Crius changes undermine the hubs or at least spread people out a bit. We need more minihubs with variety between regions, it'll help fix weekend server overload and create more dynamic trade routes, but also people can make money speculating between them as a mini profession. Jita is just a pain in the backside at the moment. Jita is the main backbone of the economy! It is THE reference point for pricing for everyone. The problem is that it is impossible to compare prices within the EVE universe.. Stupid region limit
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 6580	Posted - 2014.05.30 01:26:00 - [15] - Quote Noriko Mai wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: It's interesting to consider now [before the Highsec Apocalypse] because I'm personally really hoping the Crius changes undermine the hubs or at least spread people out a bit. We need more minihubs with variety between regions, it'll help fix weekend server overload and create more dynamic trade routes, but also people can make money speculating between them as a mini profession. Jita is just a pain in the backside at the moment. Jita is the main backbone of the economy! It is THE reference point for pricing for everyone. The problem is that it is impossible to compare prices within the EVE universe.. Stupid region limit I know of at least three market price comparison tools out of game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
Noriko Mai 1369	Posted - 2014.05.30 01:30:00 - [16] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Noriko Mai wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: It's interesting to consider now [before the Highsec Apocalypse] because I'm personally really hoping the Crius changes undermine the hubs or at least spread people out a bit. We need more minihubs with variety between regions, it'll help fix weekend server overload and create more dynamic trade routes, but also people can make money speculating between them as a mini profession. Jita is just a pain in the backside at the moment. Jita is the main backbone of the economy! It is THE reference point for pricing for everyone. The problem is that it is impossible to compare prices within the EVE universe.. Stupid region limit I know of at least three market price comparison tools out of game. True. But Jita is a reference point for the traders (price and velocity). And almost every trader has an alt in Jita. I'm to drunk to predict the effect on the market atm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZEjGLtQC6U
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 514	Posted - 2014.05.30 02:13:00 - [17] - Quote You'll see prices for goods that are more cheaply manufactured locally decrease while 'imported' goods rise.
Kitty Bear Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance 1340	Posted - 2014.05.30 02:14:00 - [18] - Quote I thought the reason was laziness & greed
hellcane Never Back Down 138	Posted - 2014.05.30 05:23:00 - [19] - Quote I do miss the jita ice fields.
Celeste Taylor Ruby Dynasty 262	Posted - 2014.05.31 13:30:00 - [20] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Noriko Mai wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: It's interesting to consider now [before the Highsec Apocalypse] because I'm personally really hoping the Crius changes undermine the hubs or at least spread people out a bit. We need more minihubs with variety between regions, it'll help fix weekend server overload and create more dynamic trade routes, but also people can make money speculating between them as a mini profession. Jita is just a pain in the backside at the moment. Jita is the main backbone of the economy! It is THE reference point for pricing for everyone. The problem is that it is impossible to compare prices within the EVE universe.. Stupid region limit I know of at least three market price comparison tools out of game. Also one of the great uses for 0 SP alts. This is the main reason I have yet to choose dual training over multiple accounts.

Grimpak Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance. 1542	Posted - 2014.05.31 14:02:00 - [21] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: I'm not that old but Yulai was the earlier trade hub, then something happened with superhighways and m0o camping the route etc and Jita emerged, followed by the rest. Jita is convenient - not just because it originally had decent quality agents - but it sits adjacent to 2 other regions. I'm pretty sure The Forge/Citadel and Lonetrek are historically the densest populated highsec areasdue to the popularity of Caldari as a playable race and the density of high level 4 agents. Without wishing to be rude, this is a really common query - it's worth eve-searching or googling these types of queries first :) Close, but incomplete. Here's a bit of story for y'all greenhorns. Back in the beginning, EVE gate network was made as such that all 4 empires connected to Yulai directly. This made Yulai pretty much the main hub for many years. This also means that there were 1.0 empire highways between them, since Yulai connected to all of them thru hisec, so you could go to any place by getting into Yulai. Times changed, and there was a call to make the empires a bit more "split" with losec inbetween, so Gallente and Minmatar space connected directly thru hisec, while Caldari ended up with Amarr. This happened when FW was introduced, or was it before? Memory fuzzy, but I think it was before. This also mean that some systems became hubs due to the existence of L4 agents in them, like Dodixie, Amarr, and, of course, Jita. Add the fact that this was before bloodlines so alot of noobs went Asura because of good startup atributes, and they all converged into the "safest" place in caldari space with lvl4 agents: Jita. Market followed, and it snowballed from then on. And then CCP saw Jita became a black hole and major calls were demanded to move lvl4's out of hisec. Jita got its gates somewhat reorganized so that you don't need to cross it if going anywhere, and lvl4's were removed from 1.0's, and to aleviate the black hole that was jita, lvl4 agents were removed from it. Time goes by, but, even with all this, Jita remained the de facto hub due to this, and also the fact that nullsec wars were a bit split over between north and south, which cemented this. Even all over these years, with the North-South conflicts ended, the mission agent changes and all that, I guess people just got stuck around Jita. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Pok Nibin Filial Pariahs 362	Posted - 2014.05.31 15:01:00 - [22] - Quote Happenstance. Circumstance. Nothing more. Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
Cristl Perkone Caldari State 125	Posted - 2014.05.31 15:57:00 - [23] - Quote Considering they only existed from July 2003 to April 2004 (ish) they sure generate continued interest. I used to warp to space that was completely empty except for a random billboard when I used an out of date insta bookmark all the time. I wonder if those billboards in places like Lustrevik are still there?
Cypherous Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty 91	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:24:00 - [24] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: The only trade hub was Yulai at first. I remember the days of yulai being the place to buy stuff, then they changed some of the jumps between systems and jita became the new hub
Grimpak Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance. 1543	Posted - 2014.05.31 16:51:00 - [25] - Quote Pok Nibin wrote: Happenstance. Circumstance. Nothing more. pretty much, really. circumstances at the time made Jita the hub that it is today. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right


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