Skill Point remap would be interesting..

Skill Point remap would be interesting..

No, it would not.

Skills are an interesting and meaningful decision to make. Removing that decision would be the exact opposite of interesting and meaningful. It would also be directly harmful to the game.


OP: What you're asking for is already in the game. It's called GÇ£skill trainingGÇ¥. EVE is not a class/level-based game where you're stuck in one path and can't do anything outside of the 20 abilities you've accumulated on your way to max level. Instead, if you want to try something new, just try it.

I'd pony up a PLEX or two for an SP remap. And would activate at least one old account and do the same. Could be a financial shot-in-the-arm for CCP.

It's not personal, it's just business.

No, it would not.

Skills are an interesting and meaningful decision to make. Removing that decision would be the exact opposite of interesting and meaningful. It would also be directly harmful to the game.


OP: What you're asking for is already in the game. It's called GÇ£skill trainingGÇ¥. EVE is not a class/level-based game where you're stuck in one path and can't do anything outside of the 20 abilities you've accumulated on your way to max level. Instead, if you want to try something new, just try it.

In that case, I would totally reactivate several of characters that I made in 2005 and abandoned. I'm sure the majority of old players would do the same.

(Btw. that was back when I still tried EVE out and wasn't sure if I would continue playing or not)

All you need to do is remap attributes and train a bunch of random skills, whose main attributes you remapped into, to gain incredibly fast SP without ever hitting a situation where you are in need of skills that have different primary and secondary attributes.

Then when you hit your threshold SP, you remap. Congrats! You just matched someone else in SP and you did it about 30% faster than they ever could.

Skills are an interesting and meaningful decision to make. Removing that decision would be the exact opposite of interesting and meaningful. It would also be directly harmful to the game.

Its controversial, no question, with strong opinions, and both sides having good arguments.

In that case, I would totally reactivate several of characters that I made in 2005 and abandoned. I'm sure the majority of old players would do the same.

(Btw. that was back when I still tried EVE out and wasn't sure if I would continue playing or not)

More like a financial shot in the head.
Paying to skip game mechanics is inherently a bad idea.

Alienating your customer base by introducing P2W is not good business.

If you want them to remove skills, ask them to remove skills. Don't ask them to make the removal contingent on how large your wallet is. The former is just a bad idea; the latter is taking a bad idea and turning it up to 21 by not just removing game mechanics but ensuring that the removal breaks the game as much as possible in the process.

It would also be controversial.

All you need to do is remap attributes and train a bunch of random skills, whose main attributes you remapped into, to gain incredibly fast SP without ever hitting a situation where you are in need of skills that have different primary and secondary attributes.

Then when you hit your threshold SP, you remap. Congrats! You just matched someone else in SP and you did it about 30% faster than they ever could.

That sounds lame to me : /

And here you go, blowing things out of proportion.

an SP remap, as far as I understand it, does not "win" the game in any way.

And here you go, blowing things out of proportion.

An SP remap bypasses game mechanics and game balance. This bypass effectively removes the mechanic and its connected balance from the game, specifically the entire skilling mechanic and everything related to it, including the attributes that balance how quickly you acquire those skills. Tie it to PLEX and you have a paid-for ability to skip game mechanics. This is about as P2W as it gets. The amount of GÇ£winGÇ¥ you gain doesn't particularly matter GÇö what matters is that you are now paying to not play the game the same way as everyone else.

Again: if you want them to remove skills, ask them to remove skills. Don't turn it into an idiotic P2W scheme.

Oh, and of course, first you have to figure out a good reason why skills should be removed GÇö effectively or explicitly. I have yet to hear anyone present such a reason.

Uh, no. You talk about mechanics and balance, which I'm sure are concepts you understand, but you didn't actually tie them into your point. They are there to fill space. You've effectively said nothing.

A rank 14x skill takes *gasp* 14 times longer to train than a rank 1x skill.
As such, you would need to train 14 rank 1x skills to level I, to accumulate the same ammount of SP required to train a rank 14x to level I (Ignoring prerequisites, since your main quirk seems to be time spent). Because (250*14=3500), and a rank 14x skill requires 3500 SP to go from 0 to I

If I go along my merry way, and train 14 rank 1x skills from level 0 to level V, I will end up with a whooping 4,352,880 SP, which is the exact same as to *gasp* the ammount of SP required to train a single rank 14x skill from level 0 to level V.

Atributes make this easier how? Are you meaning to say 1x skills are better affected by atributes somehow?

And before you carry on about the skill removal bullcrap: Only you have brought it up, so you come up with a justification to it.

EDIT: Added "rank" instead of "level"

I, for one, would love the opportunity to repeatedly abuse the system every time I wanted to be perfectly skilled in a new ship.

I, for one, would love the opportunity to repeatedly abuse the system every time I wanted to be perfectly skilled in a new ship.

Uh, no. You talk about mechanics and balance, which I'm sure are concepts you understand, but you didn't actually tie them into your point.

Atributes make this easier how?

And before you carry on about the skill removal bullcrap

Maybe you should read my post a bit more closely then. Or did you miss that first part about GÇ£An SP remap bypasses game mechanics and game balanceGÇ¥ and the subsequent description of which mechanics and balances are being bypassed?

Attributes don't make it easier. Whatever gave you that idea? Or did you miss that first part about Gǣan SP remapGǥ and somehow thought we are talking about attribute remaps? Attributes also effectively get removed by having SP remaps by the wayGǪ Yet another reason why it's a bad idea.

It's not bullcrap. It's the actual and blindingly obvious effect of having SP remaps, and is the main reason why SP remaps is a horribly bad idea. Tying that horribly bad idea to a payment scheme just gives it firmly push off its precarious ledge half-way down the cliffs of awfulness and makes it splatter noisily against the bottom of the chasm of mindblowing abominations.

So, again, if you want skills to be removed (which is what you're asking when you're suggesting an SP remap), just ask for skills to be removed and provide a good reason why this should happen.

It is bullcrap because you came up with it.