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Gadgets
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Posted - 2003.09.25 09:20:00 -
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Are ther any corps out there than can help.
If you have a copy of the m2 bp let me have access to it.
I will make it my job to produce minor 2's at slightly above cost.
If you have a m2 Blueprint how much do you want for it.
If you are like me lets all get together and break this manoploy..
I dont want any profits from this all i want to do is get rid of this manopoly.
If you have the bp and cant be arsed dealing with all the crap lemme know .. as long as i can get read access to it i will sit and manufacture them.
The m2 thing sucks .. If there are other corps out there that have this BP and do nothing with it. Please let me.
Gadgets
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Magusa
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Posted - 2003.09.25 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Magusa on 25/09/2003 11:20:57
That will fix nothing. There are no more than 10 (Number is probably too high because it is a big mystery) miner 2 BPCs in game and they all could just make 40 a day. It is hardly enough to fill the demands of the players for a few more months, if not more. This is not a problem that the player could fix. Only CCP could fix the problem that they have created.
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Velios
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Posted - 2003.09.25 11:29:00 -
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Whats the problem here? Why is it so wrong that you have to go to a certain corp to get a certain product? This is just one item we are talking about here. I'm certain that in the future there will be other MUST HAVE items that some other corp or individual is able to hold a monolopy on.
Let me ask, if everyone could make hamburgers that were exactly the same as McDonnald's would we still go there?
Just get used to it and look at the bigger picture - its business and by having market strongholds like Techell have it gives the game variety and stimulation. Just pay them the isk and get your product.
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Gadgets
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Posted - 2003.09.25 11:42:00 -
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Whats the problem here? Why is it so wrong that you have to go to a certain corp to get a certain product? This is just one item we are talking about here. I'm certain that in the future there will be other MUST HAVE items that some other corp or individual is able to hold a monolopy on.
Let me ask, if everyone could make hamburgers that were exactly the same as McDonnald's would we still go there?
Just get used to it and look at the bigger picture - its business and by having market strongholds like Techell have it gives the game variety and stimulation. Just pay them the isk and get your product.
LOL the bigger picture..
You need to look at the BIGGER picture
See we have Mcdonalds.Burger king as the uber corps but there are no
Bobs burger van
Phils burger diner
are there.
Sheesh
Whoooosh
My magic wand has passed and i give .......
Xtro Systems Incorporated
The first Titan BP..
Ohh bugger i cant hope to make these ill sell it for a trillion to ..... Tech ... hehe
Anyway bored with this now ..ill see what happens in future..
I hope OCP take on bourd all these issues
 
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Goldar Hektu
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Posted - 2003.09.27 05:39:00 -
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Let me ask, if everyone could make hamburgers that were exactly the same as McDonnald's would we still go there?
This might be valid argument if there was any concept of quality of workmanship in the game. As it is the only way to improve a bp is to lower the cost or manufacturing time. So there is not an issue of making a miner2 "just like" Techell's. You can't make one at all.
Besides, people don't buy McDonald's because of quality, they buy it because it's ubiquitous and fairly cheap. Anyone CAN make a hamburger, and most make a better one than McDonald's.
But you are missing the poster's point. Techell got the BP from an event of some sort. They didn't create it. There was no research involved. They didn't use any method that is available to other players. They may have "earned" it through participation in an event, but this was an oportunity that no one else seems to have had.
New items need to somehow be available through the interface. Reverse-engineering, or some other research activity. And it needs to be possible, though more difficult, for an individual to "discover" a new item.
The research career is very weak at this point. Bucking it up a bit would help this situation greatly.
Your 150mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Serpentis Drug Baron, wrecking for 192.8 damage. |
Velios
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Posted - 2003.09.27 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Velios on 27/09/2003 14:19:21
Edited by: Velios on 27/09/2003 14:13:24
Guess I was using a bad analogy, all i was trying to say is that while being unable to make a miner II does **** people off somewhat - I think it is good for the game that there are certain suppliers of particular items.
So long as there are many more MUST have items released into the game, others get a ***** at getting the BP's and that the same corps do not again get the chance to suck up all the BP's then there will be more spice to eve than if everything was available to everyone at every level.
It forces players to trade, creates established businesses and creates the opportunity for resentment etc and ill feeling as seems to be happening right here.
Look at the ship building situation, I remember when I bought my first Rifter BP original - for a week I struggled to mine the minerals to produce these ships with a view to selling. It was impossible - my margins were so poor as everyone else was making them too and there was a stupid price war going on - margins were so low that if i sold then i would have made a substantial loss.
This is because making these ships was not specialized in any way - everyone can do it, so I decided to stop production and just make ships for my corp - and that in my view is boring,
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Fortrock
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Posted - 2003.09.28 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Fortrock on 28/09/2003 09:17:35
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Let me ask, if everyone could make hamburgers that were exactly the same as McDonnald's would we still go there?
If McDonalds would sell their hamburgers for 1000 $ each, no. But McDonalds doesn't have the only working hamburger BP on the market
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Jojin
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Posted - 2003.09.28 11:33:00 -
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The request you have made sounds noble, but I would have to think you are making an attempt at a scam operation or you bumped your head during your docking procedures.
Consider any group who has possession of a minor II blueprint would not relinquish the blueprint as it would seem to be the highest cash producing item in the game given the current demands. This would also make me think it is in around the clock use producing the mining lasers.
I mean can you really see a group saying, yes please take this blueprint off our hands. We grow weary of having customers beat down our doors for the products and would much rather go back to the spirit cleansing task of mining Veldspar.
Any sort of disruption to the limited supply of this product or blueprint will not come from a group of players, as the desire for power and wealth would overcome the desire to disrupt the hold on the market. Only some strange event or research anomaly which placed such an item in the hands of some unique individual who does not much care about the road to power would this come about.
I can only assume, based on your posting and desire to eliminate the lock, you have alternative motives. Most likely, you desire to have access to Miner IIĘs.
I could be wrong, but just my opinion.
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Gadgets
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Posted - 2003.09.28 19:15:00 -
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And now we come to the nub of this thread.
I knew no one with a M2 PB would come forward.
So all the wonderfull people who say
"You can buy one if you have enough money"
can see that they are talking thru thier AH.
Of the m2 bp in the game no one will admit to owning one unless they are selling them now.
NO one will sell them at all for any reason.
Thats just the way it is.
If they did exist the TECH has allready PURCHASED them.
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