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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
127
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:21:00 -
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I am certain that all of New Eden is aware of the Gank-a-pa-looza that CODE Alliance is currently undertaking across many systems in New Eden.
The basic tactics of CODE and it's Merc Corps is to send in a Probe to sit a gate and watch for Orca's and Freighters. Once a lone Orca or Freighter has been spotted Macherials will arrive to bump the ship away from its align to the next gate. A CODE Fleet will then warp in at around 500 km away from the gate at a safe spot where a few seconds later the fleet of nearly 30 t2 fitted Catalysts will warp to a warp in support ship and commence to destroy the ship which takes less than twenty seconds to achieve before CONCORD arrives and wipes the CODE Fleet out with the support ships picking up the loot from the CODE ships and Merc ships.
Counter- Ganking CODE
The first thing to do is set CODE. to - red for your corporation or yourself.
Also set the Conference Elite to - red as well for your corporation or yourself. You will soon see how many members are in a system.
Next set your Overview to view only ships and nothing else. To do so open your Overview, right click the four bars then Load Default / All. Next Deselect All so that the Overview is clean. Next select Overview Settings / Filter / Types/ Ship and check each box one at a time. Then save the new Overview as something like Anti-Gank.
If there are few members in a system then most likely they will be only ganking barges and industrials in the belts and on the gates.
Two Catalysts and a Warp In Support ship are usually the normal numbers in a CODE. squad.
If there are a lot of members in a system then most likely they will be engaging in Orca and Freighter ganks on the gates.
The smaller gank groups are difficult to stop because they hit rather quickly and unless you have a network established in the system you won't know which belt they are going to hit.
Large gank groups are the easiest to locate especially in areas where there is a lot of Freighter and Orca traffic...like Aufay.
The Counter - First find the CODE sentry that will usually be a Probe. Once located wait and watch for any Orca or Freighter traffic to enter the system. If you notice either - Red or neutral Mach's on the gate they will be the ships being used to bump the target out of alignment. If the Mach's warp off to another gate...follow them.
Once the Bump Ships begin their bumping you can try and bump the Bumper Ship by running into it using a Brutix with a MWD and T2 Overdrives fitted in three of the low slots. This will buy time for the Orca or Freighter pilot to get their wits about them and warp off. If there is no response within a minute then the gank is going to take place.
Back away from the Bump ships and let them bump the Orca or Freighter until they stop. Once stopped you will have maybe thirty seconds to two minutes to get to your optimal sniping range in your medium range sniper ship.
Once in place at around 25 to 30 km's watch for the - Red Blob to appear on your overview. Once it appears at its warp safe point you will have around ten seconds before it warps to the Warp In Support ship. Once the blob warps to the target begin selecting a single target for concentrated DPS or multiply targets for spread DPS.
Once you see the blob begin firing on the target wait two seconds and then fire on your targets to ensure that CONCORD will not attack you for being the aggressor.
A single concentrated target will yield a solo gank kill in your name with CONCORD support. A spread target pattern might get you a few solo ganks in your name but will usually end up being a in Support of CONCORD Gank.
Getting Kill Rights on the CODE Alliance and their Mercs.
To get kill rights on CODE and their Mercs will require an alt. Have your alt follow closely with the ship being bumped and when the - Red Blob arrives target some of them and attack when they attack. The blob will attack you to get the kill and since the blob mass concentrates its fire patterns you will have maybe four or five kill rights afterwards. To get a lot of kill rights tank a battlcruiser or battleship heavily and sit with the Orca or Freighter. CODE and its Mercs will try and attack you because a close range BC or BS will devastate a CODE. Alliance blob rather easily. A BC will get you an additional ten kill rights and a BS will get you an additional 15 to 20 kill rights.
Once you have the kill rights transfer them to your main character and go on a month long shooting spree.
Good luck....and good hunting. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1910
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:43:00 -
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0.5/10 I hope everyone voted in the CSM elections! Thank you to those who actually supported my campaign! Even if I don't get elected in, I hope that the CSM that do, and Devs actually use my ideas somewhere! |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
127
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Posted - 2014.06.03 23:51:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:0.5/10
I hope they do as well. |
Paranoid Loyd
571
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Posted - 2014.06.04 01:04:00 -
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Relevant "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2014.06.04 03:07:00 -
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This was actually a coherent post and most of the information came pretty close to reality, so I'll give you that you're steadily improving over your previous efforts, but you still just spent like two pages detailing how to ***** on Catalyst killmails without, you know, doing anything to actually prevent the gank. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
353
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Posted - 2014.06.04 09:55:00 -
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I'd be tempted to make a serious reply but this is the same fellow who rats highsec belts in a noctis for money, and thinks there needs to be a T2 noctis to properly and efficiently rat these "high sector" belts... because you know them rats are hard. |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
135
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Posted - 2014.06.04 16:19:00 -
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So you kill a few a catalysts. Who cares? CODE is carving a path of destruction the likes of which are rarely seen, all in the name of our Savior. Keep up with your hunting, you're stopping anything and you're creating more content for yourself and for us, and that's a good thing. At the same time though, all I'm seeing is someone whoring on killmails and not actually doing anything to stop CODE.
Also note, we don't use 'mercs' as that implies they are being paid. Anyone who flies with us does so because they find it fun, or because they believe as we do, that it is the right thing to do. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
388
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Posted - 2014.06.04 18:57:00 -
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CODE ganks Orcas? Please tell me you are getting decent loot from those Orca ganks. Otherwise, you're losing the isk war.
I can see suicide ganking in a cheap Cat, but Orca gank requires some pricey ships. |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
27
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:02:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:CODE ganks Orcas? Please tell me you are getting decent loot from those Orca ganks. Otherwise, you're losing the isk war.
I can see suicide ganking in a cheap Cat, but Orca gank requires some pricey ships.
I'm pretty sure if the orca doesnt have a dcu and or has a negative tank, like cargo expanders, it is still fairly easy to gang with catalysts. |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
375
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:43:00 -
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Brutix? Use a blackbird... www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Like to answer questions? Join my public channel in game:-áHouse Forelli |
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Paranoid Loyd
586
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Posted - 2014.06.04 19:48:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:CODE ganks Orcas? Please tell me you are getting decent loot from those Orca ganks. Otherwise, you're losing the isk war.
I can see suicide ganking in a cheap Cat, but Orca gank requires some pricey ships.
When people are donating billions to your cause, there is no isk war to lose. Also, they are using catalysts to gank orcas. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
135
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Posted - 2014.06.04 20:26:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:CODE ganks Orcas? Please tell me you are getting decent loot from those Orca ganks. Otherwise, you're losing the isk war.
I can see suicide ganking in a cheap Cat, but Orca gank requires some pricey ships.
We're not fighting an isk war, so cost is irrelevant. And as noted above the cost is paid for by donations, the loot is just a bonus that goes towards more catalysts. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
129
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:48:00 -
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Fighting for your Savior?
Your fighting for someone who is no longer alive and the mere mention of his name invokes a sense of lingering death in your mind as the 'spirit' that you recollect is in side you is nothing more than the dead trying to occupy your body thus making you the walking dead within New Eden.
Quote:So to does the age old soul of the dead try to come back from its rightful slumber....flesh hanging from boney limbs as the hope of being reborn in a new body to walk the earth again succumbs to the soul being trapped in a body that does not belong to it. |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
129
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:50:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Fighting for your Savior? Your fighting for someone who is no longer alive and the mere mention of his name invokes a sense of lingering death in your mind as the 'spirit' that you recollect is in side you is nothing more than the dead trying to occupy your body thus making you the walking dead within New Eden. Quote:So to does the age old soul of the dead try to come back from its rightful slumber....flesh hanging from boney limbs as the hope of being reborn in a new body to walk the earth again succumbs to the soul being trapped in a body that does not belong to it.
From living they went to dead....from death they returned to the living only to find out that they had died and can never return.
....the wisps of the grave are all that you worship....death and the dead. |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
129
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:52:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Brutix? Use a blackbird...
Do you have any suggestions for a fit Cara? |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
135
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:14:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Fighting for your Savior? Your fighting for someone who is no longer alive and the mere mention of his name invokes a sense of lingering death in your mind as the 'spirit' that you recollect is in side you is nothing more than the dead trying to occupy your body thus making you the walking dead within New Eden. Quote:So to does the age old soul of the dead try to come back from its rightful slumber....flesh hanging from boney limbs as the hope of being reborn in a new body to walk the earth again succumbs to the soul being trapped in a body that does not belong to it.
What are you talking about? I'm talking about Our Savior James 315, Supreme Protector of New High Sec, who I assure you is alive and well. Not sure where you're getting this zombie mumbo jumbo from. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
129
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:21:00 -
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There is no such thing as James315 walking around in High Sector as your savior because any such notion conveys an anti-Christ mentality of someone saying that they are James from a religious textbook when in fact they are nothing more than the twisted and rotted flesh of someone from the past.
Your prophet is based on someone from the past who has died. |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
135
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:24:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:Brutix? Use a blackbird... Do you have any suggestions for a fit Cara? Employing the Blackbird against CODE. Fit a full rack of 'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I with any secondary modules that you might need to support its cap and range. Find a CODE Gank Fleet and when the blob attacks target several of the Catalysts and ECM them to keep them from being able to attack the Freighter or Orca. Depending upon your ECM and targeting range skills will determine your effectiveness. The ECM Jam Attack on the CODE Blob should be made with at least three blackbirds to better ensure that as many Catalysts have been jammed that can then be ganked by CONCORD. Thanks of the suggestion Cara Forelli.
http://i.imgur.com/OkfTuEY.jpg
That fit would actually have a chance of saving the gank victim if you are so inclined. Note the cloak so they don't get to know you are there until too late, and the after burner to get close enough. I'm sure you could switch that out for a microwarp. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
135
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:25:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:There is no such thing as James315 walking around in High Sector as your savior because any such notion conveys an anti-Christ mentality of someone saying that they are James from a religious textbook when in fact they are nothing more than the twisted and rotted flesh of someone from the past.
Your prophet is based on someone from the past who has died.
You make no sense. James 315 is an active Eve Online character. Where did this talk of an anti-Christ come from? And when did this suddenly become about religion? Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1640
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:35:00 -
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That's a really long winded way to say "If you see someone from CODE. in a catalyst you can shoot them to get on the KM when they gank someone."
So long winded that I'm declaring war on the OP. |
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Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
136
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:44:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:That's a really long winded way to say "If you see someone from CODE. in a catalyst you can shoot them to get on the KM when they gank someone."
So long winded that I'm declaring war on the OP.
That is a valid and warranted response. The OP has demonstrated how far down the path of insanity his bot-sympathy has taken him. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
129
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:33:00 -
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Rather to be long winded and full of life than small minded and full of scrim. |
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
129
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:35:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:That's a really long winded way to say "If you see someone from CODE. in a catalyst you can shoot them to get on the KM when they gank someone."
So long winded that I'm declaring war on the OP. That is a valid and warranted response. The OP has demonstrated how far down the path of insanity his bot-sympathy has taken him.
Follow the Llama...it might leave some droppings behind for ya to pick up.
Never turn your back on the Llama..
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Komi Toran
Perkone Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:33:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Note the cloak so they don't get to know you are there until too late, and the after burner to get close enough. I'm sure you could switch that out for a microwarp. Won't the recalibration time prevent you from getting a target lock before the cats have had their fun?
::Looks at Tengu's alliance::
Oh. Nope, you're right. Keep those blackbirds cloaked until the last second. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
303
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Posted - 2014.06.06 02:27:00 -
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oh no my catalyst that was being used in a suicide gank got... exploded!
*giggles as primary target burns*
:P |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1642
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Posted - 2014.06.06 03:08:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:oh no my catalyst that was being used in a suicide gank got... exploded!
*giggles as primary target burns*
:P I personally find it very entertaining when someone thinks they're achieving some kind of victory over you guys by whoring onto your killmails. I mean they're accomplishing absolutely nothing at all.
One of the things I really love seeing in this game is white knighting, mostly because the white knights in question are invariably totally ineffective and hugely delusional. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
363
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Posted - 2014.06.06 04:41:00 -
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Also OP dropped corp because he knows he's completely ineffective at fighting. |
howling wind
I Swear She Was 18 Sex Panther.
26
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Posted - 2014.06.06 13:14:00 -
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Thankfully I knew Loyal before he was addicted to ganking so I can literally get "Free Gank Kills Courtesy The CODE. Alliance".
Thanks Loyal + the rest of you guys! |
Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3948
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Posted - 2014.06.06 16:46:00 -
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Loraine Gess wrote:Also OP dropped corp because he knows he's completely ineffective at fighting.
Well...
Figures he would not last long in a corp.
For the most part people like this are only able to act tough via EVE mails. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
13
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Posted - 2014.06.07 10:46:00 -
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YAY I hadn't seen one of this guys forum posts in a while, Love his Delusions of Grandeur he has when it comes to CODE, Its brilliant, Keep writing more on here and give us more to laugh at you for OP!!! |
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2014.06.07 17:27:00 -
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The end of CODE has finally come to an end.
The Scissors Attack Technique
Wherever CODE may be ganking the end result will the beginning of a new era.
The final tactic against CODE.
Since CODE draws the attack of CONCORD within twenty seconds after their attack and usually by then the target has been destroyed Anti-CODE members are going to be using a similar tactic.
First create two alts from your primary.
The alts only need to be basically trained and their Rookie skills will suffice.
Next set the CODE Alliance to - red to your corporation or - red to you. Block them all in the local chat channel so you are not saturated with their filth.
Next find the Macherial or other ship that is bumping the Freighter, Orca, Elite Class Ship and mark it as - orange.
Whenever you see the CODE Bumper ship stop bumping give a count of twenty seconds and fire at the bumper ship with alt one.
This will draw CONCORD to the exact location where the target is located. You will lose security status and a rookie ship in the process but getting the auto-pilots through the gates is more important.
Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
....The main thing to remember is that CODE hates being denied.....Just one ship will be enough to deny their whole alliance they ISK they want but are too lazy to go out and earn.
.....Oh by the way Cannibal Kane....I expect your toon to have its head shaven...all of that pretty hair being worn as a prize inside of my pod for all times.
Now go into low sector and PVP like real fighters....nothing but sissies with long hair......By CODE. |
Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
145
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Posted - 2014.06.07 17:33:00 -
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I like reading your stuff. You make me laugh at how silly you are. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2014.06.07 17:57:00 -
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"Beer For My Horses"
Well a man come on the 6 oGÇÖclock news Said somebodyGÇÖs been shot, somebodyGÇÖs been abused Somebody blew up a building Somebody stole a car Somebody got away Somebody didnGÇÖt get too far yeah They didnGÇÖt get too far
Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son A man had to answer for the wicked that he done Take all the rope in Aufay Find a tall oak tree, round up all of them bad boys Hang them high in the street for all the people to see that
Justice is the one thing you should always find You got to saddle up your boys You got to draw a hard line When the gun smoke settles weGÇÖll sing a victory tune WeGÇÖll all meet back at the local saloon WeGÇÖll raise up our glasses against evil forces Singing whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
We got too many gangsters doing dirty deeds WeGÇÖve got too much corruption, too much crime in the streets ItGÇÖs time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground Send GÇÖem all to their maker and heGÇÖll settle GÇÖem down You can bet heGÇÖll set GÇÖem down GÇÖcause
You gotta stand for something or become a CODE Alliance member.
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Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
145
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Posted - 2014.06.07 18:49:00 -
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I'd rather stand for something and BE a Code Alliance member. (membership not required) Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Komi Toran
Perkone Caldari State
66
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Posted - 2014.06.07 23:23:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:The end of CODE has finally come to an end. This is a terrible, terrible strategy. I mean, there's no profit in it, it's not terribly fun, and there's a fair amount of effort that has to go into your plan. All in all, there's nothing that makes someone want to pursue this as a profession. And even if you do succeed, you've only caused them to move on to another of the hundreds of targets available, or made them lose a few cheap ships. Whippitydo.
No, if you want to strike at CODE, then you have to actually strike at the Code. See a miner with a permit in his bio? Gank him. See another? Gank him. And so on and so forth. If the permits instead become "Gank Me" signs, then CODE, at least as a political force, goes away.
Of course, this requires the White Knights to do what they abhor, so it won't happen.
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Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
3955
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Posted - 2014.06.08 07:08:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:
.....Oh by the way Cannibal Kane....I expect your toon to have its head shaven...all of that pretty hair being worn as a prize inside of my pod for all times.
Now go into low sector and PVP like real fighters....nothing but sissies with long hair......By CODE.
And your Mustache has a climb into my white spaceship that looks like van.
You left corp to escape me. As I said before, you are nothing but Forum talk. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
18
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Posted - 2014.06.08 21:02:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:.....Oh by the way Cannibal Kane....I expect your toon to have its head shaven...all of that pretty hair being worn as a prize inside of my pod for all times.
Now go into low sector and PVP like real fighters....nothing but sissies with long hair......By CODE.
Absolutely pissed myself at this, Pretty sure cannibal Kane is known for being the opposite of a "sissy" Besides, The long hair gives him something to flip around when he's looking fabulous and killing people
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Your Eternal Queen
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.06.10 09:07:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:The end of CODE has finally come to an end. What? You got a remote POS-like shield projector? You see, if the Orca/Freighter is auto-piloting, you won't be able to save them aside from killing the whole landing party if their quantities either right or excessive. This CONCORD spawn is "smart", but nothing prevents them from using comms to correct the gank time so shots are fired AFTER police go sightseeing on velator shooting ventures. If not other sock puppet velator. Aside from that, you are missing the fact that auto-pilotting orca needs 3 MINUTES to reach gates. That's without anyone bumping him. Now add the fact that Machs are still there, actively ramming "poor hauler" away.
Best thing you can harm CODE with? 1)Walk and talk. 2)Gank guys with permits. 3)Track them, grab the spoils of suicide gank and buzz off. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
119
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:10:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:oh no my catalyst that was being used in a suicide gank got... exploded!
*giggles as primary target burns*
:P I personally find it very entertaining when someone thinks they're achieving some kind of victory over you guys by whoring onto your killmails. I mean they're accomplishing absolutely nothing at all. One of the things I really love seeing in this game is white knighting, mostly because the white knights in question are invariably totally ineffective and hugely delusional.
I agree, though it is something of a shame that it is so difficult (in relative terms, to the point of making a difference) to help people. I'd like to see ablative counter suicide ships to take the fire from a designated target. No guns, they just take hits for the big fellas. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
278
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Posted - 2014.06.10 20:46:00 -
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If you see a freighter about to get bumped, suicide web them into warp! |
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Tengu Grib
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
151
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Posted - 2014.06.10 21:02:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:If you see a freighter about to get bumped, suicide web them into warp!
Very legitimate strategy. No sarcasm. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
312
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:37:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:The end of CODE has finally come to an end.
The Scissors Attack Technique
Oh, Dryson.
One of these days you will grasp basic game mechanics and surprise us all.
From the looks of this, today is not that day. Also, would you like to scissor? <3
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
280
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:01:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:If you see a freighter about to get bumped, suicide web them into warp! Very legitimate strategy. No sarcasm.
For best results, use a Daredevil with a Federation Navy Stasis Webifier! |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2014.06.11 22:01:00 -
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Smart-Bomb Anti-CODE BS
Another tactic to use against CODE since they also go after Elite Classes of Battleships and Battlecruisers, basically anything that has T2 fits on it is too fit a Battleship with full high slot Smart Bombs and any additional armor plating to keep CODE from taking the BS out. Make certain to fit rigs for smart bomb damage modifications if any are made. Also add some Overdrive TII and a 100MN II to the BS to give it some velocity. The faster the better. Remember this is a Smart Bomb assault BS so the primary areas of concern are the Smart Bombs, armor and velocity.
You might also want to add some cap boosters or cap chargers to keep your capacitor level within a nominal level.
Smart Bomb - 50 / 50 comprised of EM in the first four slots and Exp in the last four slots.
EM if for the shields which have a 0% resistance and the Exp is for the armor which has a 10% resistance. At last check CODE does not use any type of armor or other resistance modules as it would take away from their ability to inflict maximum damage at one time.
Locate the Orca or freighter that is being bumped by the Macherial and begin to orbit the bumped target at 7,000 m turning the MWD on to about half.
Once CODE warps in they will automatically be - Red Dead and may actually decide to attack you first. If they do simply turn on the Smart Bombs starting with the EM first and then the Exp.
If CODE does warp to the bumped target first simply turn the MWD on and begin to take their destroyers out.
The only problem that would arise is that the neutral Macherial will still be present along with the warp to point ship that if struck by the Smart Bombs will provoke Concord to arrive and destroy your ship as well.
This tactic might not work well on the gates but when CODE's warp out of station locations have been discovered and bookmarked you can simply sit a BS in each of the locations and wait for them to arrive. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
315
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Posted - 2014.06.12 00:06:00 -
[45] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Smart-Bomb Anti-CODE BS
This tactic might not work well on the gates but when CODE's warp out of station locations have been discovered and bookmarked you can simply sit a BS in each of the locations and wait for them to arrive.
THIS. DO THIS.
The priceless tears you will spew in local as you lose battleship after battleship due to your inability to grasp basic game mechanics will give CODE much to laugh about as we wait down timers.
DrysonBennington, keep this up and we may promote you to leader of our un-official fanboy club! It's a very serious internet spaceship based business. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
284
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Posted - 2014.06.12 03:09:00 -
[46] - Quote
Dryson, you should probably try out your ideas at least once before you start telling other people to do them.
Especially this one. |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
248
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Posted - 2014.06.14 03:19:00 -
[47] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote:Dryson, you should probably try out your ideas at least once before you start telling other people to do them.
Especially this one.
This, Dryson stays docked in system when ever we are present and actively ganking, complaining in local that noone is stopping us, while he himself is docked. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2271
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Posted - 2014.06.14 08:08:00 -
[48] - Quote
Pointless. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Cowards deserve punishment -
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2271
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Posted - 2014.06.14 08:09:00 -
[49] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Dryson, you should probably try out your ideas at least once before you start telling other people to do them.
Especially this one. This, Dryson stays docked in system when ever we are present and actively ganking, complaining in local that noone is stopping us, while he himself is docked. And you stay docked too 99% of the time, except when you undock to play your 20sec easymode game, you wannabe tough guy. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
- Cowards deserve punishment -
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
698
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Posted - 2014.06.14 09:02:00 -
[50] - Quote
That 20 seconds sure is fun.
Speaking of "easymode [sic]" I wonder if CCP will be okay with AFK ganking? I mean, If miners can AFK mine, mission runners can AFK mission, ratters can AFK rat, haulers/traders can AFK haul/trade, they'll be cool with it.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
249
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Posted - 2014.06.14 11:27:00 -
[51] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:loyalanon wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Dryson, you should probably try out your ideas at least once before you start telling other people to do them.
Especially this one. This, Dryson stays docked in system when ever we are present and actively ganking, complaining in local that noone is stopping us, while he himself is docked. And you stay docked too 99% of the time, except when you undock to play your 20sec easymode game, you wannabe tough guy.
Does it upset you that I use valid game mechanics to play the game?
Any problems with it CCP do allow petitions so that you can share your tears. |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
158
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Posted - 2014.06.14 15:16:00 -
[52] - Quote
Capt Starfox wrote:That 20 seconds sure is fun.
Speaking of "easymode [sic]" I wonder if CCP will be okay with AFK ganking? I mean, If miners can AFK mine, mission runners can AFK mission, ratters can AFK rat, haulers/traders can AFK haul/trade, they'll be cool with it.
I agree with this. Autopilot features should be able to include queued commands such as "overheat all guns" and "Target X after dropping out of warp" then "Fire all guns." Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
411
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Posted - 2014.06.14 18:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
This thread reminds me of an adaptation of Poe's Law.
A sufficiently advanced idiot is indistinguishable from a satirist. Turrents |
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.06.14 19:25:00 -
[54] - Quote
Dryson, you know, there is a channel called "anti-gank" (or was it "anti-ganking"?). In their MOTD they have some fits that actually work. They include ECM fits and burst repair fits that won't make your wallet bleed should suicide ganking on YOU succeed.
Also, you don't get the whole problem with your average "helpless vicitm of CODE/whatever suicide ganker you run across". The problem is that many of them do nothing to prevent suicide ganking.
They don't help their ships via webifying. They tank their ships poorly. They are flying with everything that they have on tap.. They are using autopilot in slow and expensive ships.
One more thing: They are giving gankers a pleasure by swearing in local, asking to make an example in video for SG boot camp next door. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
400
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:07:00 -
[55] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Solecist Project wrote:loyalanon wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Dryson, you should probably try out your ideas at least once before you start telling other people to do them.
Especially this one. This, Dryson stays docked in system when ever we are present and actively ganking, complaining in local that noone is stopping us, while he himself is docked. And you stay docked too 99% of the time, except when you undock to play your 20sec easymode game, you wannabe tough guy. Does it upset you that I use valid game mechanics to play the game? Any problems with it CCP do allow petitions so that you can share your tears.
What is sad is that he doesn't do his homework and look at your killboard, loyalanon. If he had he would realize you know how the SBing BS really works.
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Maxmillian Rokatansky
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.06.15 17:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
Capt Starfox wrote:That 20 seconds sure is fun.
Speaking of "easymode [sic]" I wonder if CCP will be okay with AFK ganking? I mean, If miners can AFK mine, mission runners can AFK mission, ratters can AFK rat, haulers/traders can AFK haul/trade, they'll be cool with it.
I have to give some props to the CODE bros for the recent spike in frieghter ganking, the ease of AFK mining while playing Battlefield is at an all time high. I hope your campaign countinues for a while. |
DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2014.06.15 19:35:00 -
[57] - Quote
Deployment of CODE Tracking Beacons
The following CODE. Tracking Beacon will help Barge, Exhumer, Freighter, Industrial and Industrial Command ship pilots know which system CODE. is currently active in, which ships are their favorite targets and which ships CODE. uses in their ganks.
To further assist pilots in avoiding CODE. simply place a Mobile Depot at any gate, belt or station with the following Set Name.
CODE. Tracking Beacon - http://edr.220mm.org/killboard/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=298
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DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2014.06.15 20:14:00 -
[58] - Quote
Local Bulk Freighter - Armed Freighter for small cargo runs of 1 to 15 systems.
This build involves using a Typhoon class Battleship as the class hull.
Rig Slots - Large Cargohold Optimization Rigs - x3
Mid Slots - Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction - x2 Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I - x2 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor - x1
Low Slots - DCU II x 1 Large Armor Repairer II - x1
Armor Modules Only Reinforced Steel Plates II - x 5
Armor Modules + Cargo Expanders Reinforced Steel Plates II - x 2 Cargohold Expander Modules II - x 3
Cargo Expanders Only Cargohold Expander Modules II - x 5
High Slots - Arbalest Rapid Fire Heavy Missile Launcher - x 6 ( cruisers) or Prototype Arbalest Rapid Light Missile Launcher - x 6 (destroyers) Use faction Explosive missiles.
Drones - x 10 Valkyrie II ( Explosive damage)
This ship build will help conceal your cargo hauling efforts as well as provide some defense against raiding CODE. ships. |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
160
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Posted - 2014.06.15 20:16:00 -
[59] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Terrible fits
Please do this. I will enjoy seeing them on your loss board. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.06.16 00:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
Deny CODE by destroying the loot can and then warping off.
The final method of denying CODE entirely is too destroy their loot can once the target has been destroyed. CODE , especially James315, the high and holiest of the emanated in High Sector hates being denied.
Deny his followers their loot and you deny James315 his very soul.
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Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
168
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Posted - 2014.06.16 00:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Deny CODE by destroying the loot can and then warping off.
The final method of denying CODE entirely is too destroy their loot can once the target has been destroyed. CODE , especially James315, the high and holiest of the emanated in High Sector hates being denied.
Deny his followers their loot and you deny James315 his very soul.
This is probably your best idea so far. I however, usually don't bother looting either because I forget, my hauler is out of system, or I'm feeling lazy and don't bother logging him in. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
129
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Posted - 2014.06.16 16:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
Personally I think too much time and effort went into thinking how to avoid or scavenge a killmail for this griefing group.
If CODE bothers you that much you can come up with your own fake religion and run basilisk support at gates and belts. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
297
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Posted - 2014.06.16 19:34:00 -
[63] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Local Bulk Freighter - Armed Freighter for small cargo runs of 1 to 15 systems.
This build involves using a Typhoon class Battleship as the class hull.
Rig Slots - Large Cargohold Optimization Rigs - x3
Mid Slots - Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction - x2 Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I - x2 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor - x1
Low Slots - DCU II x 1 Large Armor Repairer II - x1
Armor Modules Only Reinforced Steel Plates II - x 5
Armor Modules + Cargo Expanders Reinforced Steel Plates II - x 2 Cargohold Expander Modules II - x 3
Cargo Expanders Only Cargohold Expander Modules II - x 5
High Slots - Arbalest Rapid Fire Heavy Missile Launcher - x 6 ( cruisers) or Prototype Arbalest Rapid Light Missile Launcher - x 6 (destroyers) Use faction Explosive missiles.
Drones - x 10 Valkyrie II ( Explosive damage)
This ship build will help conceal your cargo hauling efforts as well as provide some defense against raiding CODE. ships.
To go beyond the fact that you are telling people to fly around in a dual-tanked cargo-rigged Typhoon, the fit you have come up with is so laughably terrible that it has substantially less EHP than an ordinary freighter and can active-tank the incoming damage of about 1/4th of a single Catalyst. |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
170
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Posted - 2014.06.16 20:08:00 -
[64] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote: To go beyond the fact that you are telling people to fly around in a dual-tanked cargo-rigged Typhoon, the fit you have come up with is so laughably terrible that it has substantially less EHP than an ordinary freighter and can active-tank the incoming damage of about 1/4th of a single Catalyst.
Shhh. Don't tell him! I want to see these out in space! Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.06.16 21:57:00 -
[65] - Quote
Remote Repairing the targeted ship.
Once you have discovered which ship CODE has decided to attack based on watching the Macherial Bump ship bump it away from the sentry guns so they don't insta-aggro the Catalysts target the ship and orbit it at 40 km once the bumping has ceased.
Augoror Remote Amor Repair Ship
High Slots
x 4 Medium Remote Armor Repairer II
x 1 Medium 'Regard' Remote Capacitor Transmitter ( when several Augoror are used in link you can transfer capacitor to each ship thus creating an infinite supply of capacitor)
Mid Slots
Medium Capacitor Booster II - Cap Booster 800 loaded 14 in the cargo hold
x 2 Drone Navigation Computers
Low Slots
x 3 Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux 1 x 1 DCU II x 1 EALM II
Rig Slots
x 1 Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I x 2 Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Drones
x 4 Light Armor Maintenance Drones
With enough of these Remote Repair Ships in a fleet you should be able to repair the target long enough to keep it alive while Concord deals with CODE.
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:00:00 -
[66] - Quote
Why is CODE even dealing with the small fish at the gates and in the belts?
There are hundreds of billions of ISK in the Incursion Sites, all those pretty Faction and High End ships.
What's wrong CODE?
Does Sansha scare you that much?
Small time gankers....gotta laugh at them...they really put their hearts into it but can never climax to the next level. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
298
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:57:00 -
[67] - Quote
Seriously, what the hell are these fits? Why do you need drone navigation computers on an Augoror of all ******* things? Why do you have a cap chain and cap injectors? Did you even read the description of the rigs you put on it?
For ****'s sake Dryson, enough with the terrible, terrible armchair posting. The next time you have an idea, actually go do it yourself and talk about results instead of vomiting stuff directly from your head to the forums. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.06.16 23:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
Carebear Pirate Tears?
Here's my I Give - A - *$^& Hanky.
It comes in all colors of orange and red. |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
171
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Why is CODE even dealing with the small fish at the gates and in the belts?
There are hundreds of billions of ISK in the Incursion Sites, all those pretty Faction and High End ships.
What's wrong CODE?
Does Sansha scare you that much?
Small time gankers....gotta laugh at them...they really put their hearts into it but can never climax to the next level.
Incursion runners don't violate the CODE. Have you even read the CODE? We don't just gank anyone anywhere, we gank CODE violators. If we were to catch incursion runners autopiloting you can be sure we would gank them (it's been done, but not often). Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
171
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Posted - 2014.06.17 00:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Carebear Pirate Tears?
Here's my I Give - A - *$^& Hanky.
It comes in all colors of orange and red.
The only tears here are from laughter at that auguror fit. Seriously, drop the cap booster, if you're using a cap chain you don't need it, and if you aren't, then the cap transfer is a waste, and you'll cap out long before the gank is over.
Also, as mentioned, did you even look at the rigs? One of the three rigs is actually helping you, the other two are wasted. Replace them with trimarks. Nano pumps only affect local reps, not remote reps. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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Carry On Friend
Maniacal Laughter Ltd. CODE.
7
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Posted - 2014.06.17 04:16:00 -
[71] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Deny CODE by destroying the loot can and then warping off.
The final method of denying CODE entirely is too destroy their loot can once the target has been destroyed. CODE , especially James315, the high and holiest of the emanated in High Sector hates being denied.
Deny his followers their loot and you deny James315 his very soul.
Please do this make sure you use your drones on our loot, make sure your safety is set to red first though....
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Luwc
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
145
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Posted - 2014.06.17 06:11:00 -
[72] - Quote
4/10 in tears and butthurt 9/10 in delusional 1/10 in content http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
546
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Posted - 2014.06.17 12:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
OOORRR, just neutral rep the target and watch them all die in local projectile vomiting flames.
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
402
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Posted - 2014.06.17 15:43:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ya know, you can actually fit a Exequor for remote repping that is cap stable. Exeqs are for solo, Augs require partners. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
302
|
Posted - 2014.06.17 18:03:00 -
[75] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:Ya know, you can actually fit a Exequor for remote repping that is cap stable. Exeqs are for solo, Augs require partners.
For gank-repping, you don't need to be long term cap stable; you just need to poop out as many reps as possible for the 20 seconds or so that the gank lasts, so something like a 5-rep Augoror running off lots of cap injection would actually be a good idea. You just won't be able to fit much of a tank on it without buying expensive rigs, so keep moving to avoid ending up a target yourself.
Of course, even a max-skilled T2 fit 5-rep Augoror overheating everything on a Providence with maximum skills and lows full of ANPs is still only counteracting like two Catalysts worth of damage.
If you want a laugh, go look up Dryson on EVE-Kill. This month is a page of whoring on Concord killmails (which he appears to be mightily smug about) while also managing to lose a Thorax and a 100 mil pod to CODE in the process. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
382
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Posted - 2014.06.18 08:48:00 -
[76] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote:
If you want a laugh, go look up Dryson on EVE-Kill. This month is a page of whoring on Concord killmails (which he appears to be mightily smug about) while also managing to lose a Thorax and a 100 mil pod to CODE in the process.
He's just generally awful at EVE.
And you can't convince this type that anyone who has any experience with PVP looks at CONCORD killmails with some random dude doing 0-5% damage on them does not just sadly shake their heads.
But, I look at the "dryson" type as a bit of a win. Just think about it, following us around and failing to prevent ganks and leeching on CONCORD kills is probably his first experience with any type of emergent gameplay, and without us he would just be sitting AFK somewhere in a untanked mining barge pressing F1 once every hour or so.
:)
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.06.18 11:09:00 -
[77] - Quote
Dryson, as I said before, there is "anti-ganking" channel in-game that have some fits that actually work. They include: Fast ECMs, including ECM bombers (Allowing to sit cloaky) , yet "strike" in time Burst repper osprey. ECM barges (procurer and skiff).
While I admit your efforts, they go in wrong dirrection. You are ignorant about fact that the guys you are saving won't cooperate with you in saving themselves. If they are tanked, good, but most of the time they won't.
What comes to your "local bulk freighter", it's a pure joke. You can fit a magnate for 1610 m3 cargo with 4s allign + some shield tank or 989m3 with 3s allign. Either way, your price will be lower than 3m isk, while being very hard to catch without insta-fits, practically unscannable (Scanners need to complete their cycle, which will never happen) and fast so you less likely die from boredom on that 15 jump route. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
403
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Posted - 2014.06.18 15:00:00 -
[78] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Ya know, you can actually fit a Exequor for remote repping that is cap stable. Exeqs are for solo, Augs require partners. For gank-repping, you don't need to be long term cap stable; you just need to poop out as many reps as possible for the 20 seconds or so that the gank lasts, so something like a 5-rep Augoror running off lots of cap injection would actually be a good idea. You just won't be able to fit much of a tank on it without buying expensive rigs, so keep moving to avoid ending up a target yourself. Of course, even a max-skilled T2 fit 5-rep Augoror overheating everything on a Providence with maximum skills and lows full of ANPs is still only counteracting like two Catalysts worth of damage. If you want a laugh, go look up Dryson on EVE-Kill. This month is a page of whoring on Concord killmails (which he appears to be mightily smug about) while also managing to lose a Thorax and a 100 mil pod to CODE in the process.
Yeah, but even so the reps from the Aug will be fail if the resists on the target are low. |
Paynus Maiassus
Capital Munitions
25
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Posted - 2014.06.18 16:31:00 -
[79] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:The end of CODE has finally come to an end.
The Scissors Attack Technique
Wherever CODE may be ganking the end result will the beginning of a new era.
The final tactic against CODE.
Since CODE draws the attack of CONCORD within twenty seconds after their attack and usually by then the target has been destroyed Anti-CODE members are going to be using a similar tactic.
First create two alts from your primary.
The alts only need to be basically trained and their Rookie skills will suffice.
Next set the CODE Alliance to - red to your corporation or - red to you. Block them all in the local chat channel so you are not saturated with their filth.
Next find the Macherial or other ship that is bumping the Freighter, Orca, Elite Class Ship and mark it as - orange.
Whenever you see the CODE Bumper ship stop bumping give a count of twenty seconds and fire at the bumper ship with alt one.
This will draw CONCORD to the exact location where the target is located. You will lose security status and a rookie ship in the process but getting the auto-pilots through the gates is more important.
Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
....The main thing to remember is that CODE hates being denied.....Just one ship will be enough to deny their whole alliance they ISK they want but are too lazy to go out and earn.
.....Oh by the way Cannibal Kane....I expect your toon to have its head shaven...all of that pretty hair being worn as a prize inside of my pod for all times.
Now go into low sector and PVP like real fighters....nothing but sissies with long hair......By CODE.
Has anyone tried this? Does it work? |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
179
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Posted - 2014.06.18 17:57:00 -
[80] - Quote
Paynus Maiassus wrote:
Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
It would bring one set of concorde to the scene before the gank starts. If you do it early enough, they'll kill you, then 'respond' to one of the gankers and kill them. Not the 'one of'. So basically each person doing this will drastically reduce the damage done by ONE of the gankers. If you do it too late, that spawn of concorde will still be responding to your crime when the gank starts, so a full new set of concorde will respond and the set you brought won't really do much, and will make no difference. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
418
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Posted - 2014.06.19 00:31:00 -
[81] - Quote
Paynus Maiassus wrote:
Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
tl;dr version of the answer to that question: NO, it does not work.
Taking advice from Dyrsonbenningon about game mechanics in EVE online is like taking advice from your kitten for how to build a space shuttle.
At best, Dryson will teach you how to appear on CONCORD killmails. If you have any sort of grip on reality, after a short period of time you will realize that your presence on the field is not actually affecting anything and the exact same battle will play out regardless if you were there or not, you will likely move on to doing something useful.
Or join us! We have lots of lol and much pew pew pew :) |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
183
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Posted - 2014.06.19 06:48:00 -
[82] - Quote
Guarantee you'll have more fun joining CODE than opposing it. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
51
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Posted - 2014.06.19 12:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
I don't even know why you would use armor logi to save miners. All mining ships are shield tanked. You have to apply as much overheated shield transfer as possible and you must do this as quickly as possible, hence the idea of "Burst Osprey." (with armor logi you also need to watch and wait the shields go down before actually starting to repair.)
The info below might be out-dated, but to give you an idea:
[Osprey, Allahu Akbar] Reactor Control Unit II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II
Sensor Booster II Medium Capacitor Battery II Medium Capacitor Battery II
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x4
Astecus wrote: [...] It looks strange, but filling an unusual role very well. The Osprey is not built for using large shield transporters, and I was amazed when I finally managed to squeeze in 5 of those, with almost no cpu or powergrid left.[...] this fit has 2 "configurations" - the first configuration is keeping all 5 large shield transporters online and offlining both capacitor batteries. If you do that, you have capacitor to run your transporters for 10 cycles, repairing a total of 6240 shield HP (624 per cycle). This can be done as quickly as over 5-6 seconds, because of shield boosters repairing at the start of the cycle. If you count resistances, the EHP repaired will be higher. Should you happen to receive fleet bonuses from a maxed tengu siege warfare booster (pre Odyssey 1.1), you can run your transporters for 16 cycles, repairing 9984 shield HP, over 9-10 seconds. In lower security systems like 0.5, concord can spend up to 25 seconds to react. In these systems it might be best to switch to the second configuration, which is to offline one transporter and online both capacitor batteries. This gives you capacitor enough for 17 cycles and 10608 shield HP repaired over 20-22 seconds, or 27 cycles and 16848 shield HP repaired over 17-19 seconds with a maxed tengu booster. [GǪ]
More info at: http://www.astralservices.net/?Anti-gankLogistics
As for your fits, Dryson, I respect your willingness, but not really the results. Before sharing your fits, make sure that they have at least one proven in-game success in a given gank-countering scenario.
Otherwise, this thread will turn into Bennington's Fail-Fit Factory [BFFF]
Voyager Arran wrote:Seriously, what the hell are these fits? Why do you need drone navigation computers on an Augoror of all ******* things? Why do you have a cap chain and cap injectors? Thanks for the laugh. +1 No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
Tengu Grib
Normadiac Industrial And Security Solutions
185
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Posted - 2014.06.19 17:07:00 -
[84] - Quote
Azov Rassau wrote:A Perfectly reasonable fit
That is what a cap boosted osprey should look like. Well done. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
403
|
Posted - 2014.06.19 20:05:00 -
[85] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Paynus Maiassus wrote:
Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
tl;dr version of the answer to that question: NO, it does not work. Taking advice from Dyrsonbenningon about game mechanics in EVE online is like taking advice from your kitten for how to build a space shuttle. At best, Dryson will teach you how to appear on CONCORD killmails. If you have any sort of grip on reality, after a short period of time you will realize that your presence on the field is not actually affecting anything and the exact same battle will play out regardless if you were there or not, you will likely move on to doing something useful. Or join us! We have lots of lol and much pew pew pew :)
Actually it will work to a certain degree. If the gankers have enough alpha to kill the target in one fleet volley, then the target will die before Concord can kill the gankers. If the gankers do not have enough to alpha in one volley, and have to fire more that 2-3 volleys; then Concord being on grid may counter the gank, as Concord will most likely be able to one shot the gankers. Not to mention Concord also jams, and Faction Police will also be on hand. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
313
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:16:00 -
[86] - Quote
If there is a giant pile of Catalysts mobbing something, one spawn of Concord is unlikely to make a difference. At worst, you'd need to have any Taloses or whatever hold fire for one second to make sure Catalysts took the initial Concord aggro. If they were going to be a problem (you are cutting it very close, everyone is in Brutixes, etc), you can just have your bumpers move the Freighter another 150km or use your own pulling alt to drag that spawn out of the way. |
Cinc
In the Queue
0
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:22:00 -
[87] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote: Taking advice from Dyrsonbenningon about game mechanics in EVE online is like taking advice from your kitten for how to build a space shuttle.
Or join us! We have lots of lol and much pew pew pew :)
I lol'd. However, I'm fairly certain puppies give better advice than kittens. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
566
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:39:00 -
[88] - Quote
Cinc wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote: Taking advice from Dyrsonbenningon about game mechanics in EVE online is like taking advice from your kitten for how to build a space shuttle.
Or join us! We have lots of lol and much pew pew pew :)
I lol'd. However, I'm fairly certain puppies give better advice than kittens. I'm looking for a good corp where I can act on my desires to destroy things. You all have some space?
Puppies are too busy chewing on the booster rockets to give any advice.
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Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
403
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:36:00 -
[89] - Quote
Cinc wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote: Taking advice from Dyrsonbenningon about game mechanics in EVE online is like taking advice from your kitten for how to build a space shuttle.
Or join us! We have lots of lol and much pew pew pew :)
I lol'd. However, I'm fairly certain puppies give better advice than kittens. I'm looking for a good corp where I can act on my desires to destroy things. You all have some space?
If you want to PvP - join FW, EVE University, Red vs. Blue, or Brave Newbies. All will provide you with PvP opportunities with the latter 3 actually giving you some guidance. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.06.22 01:02:00 -
[90] - Quote
Another way to frustrate CODE is too use Remote Shield and Armor rep ships on their target.
If they don't get the gank the first time then they have spend an extra round of ships the second time around.
Nibble Nibble Nibble.
Nice mouth by the way Loyallononona. |
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.06.22 07:58:00 -
[91] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Another way to frustrate CODE is too use Remote Shield and Armor rep ships on their target. You've collected fail fit before and got some working shield ones later. You know, that's not even funny anymore, just dumb. /unsub |
Catalytic morphisis
Rock Huggers Inc The Pears of Anguish
50
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Posted - 2014.06.22 08:00:00 -
[92] - Quote
Chenguang Hucel-Ge wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Another way to frustrate CODE is too use Remote Shield and Armor rep ships on their target. You've collected fail fit before and got some working shield ones later. You know, that's not even funny anymore, just dumb. /unsub agreed, gone past humour and to just pure terrible |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
119
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Posted - 2014.06.22 10:26:00 -
[93] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Another way to frustrate CODE is too use Remote Shield and Armor rep ships on their target.
If they don't get the gank the first time then they have spend an extra round of ships the second time around.
Nibble Nibble Nibble.
Nice mouth by the way Loyallononona.
It really doesnt. We still come in dunk on your face and blast through your reps with no issues.
Code (666) - White Knights (0)
A True Champion of High Security Space |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.06.22 14:28:00 -
[94] - Quote
How does it feel to be the HIV - e of New Eden CODE Alliance?
Sure your viral strain is causing mass damage to the system of Aufay right now, but with any medical treatment a cure will be found that will rid the body of Aufay of your filth.
Where is your savior?
James315? He never comes out of his house to lead you in glorious battle. Yet he expects you to do his bidding.
What a shameful savior if I ever did see one.
Typical traitor brother to sacrifice those before him to reap the profits afterwards.
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Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
191
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Posted - 2014.06.22 18:43:00 -
[95] - Quote
Your misunderstanding of how Code. works and why would be laughable it it weren't so mind numbingly awful. We don't get told to gank, we don't receive orders, we volunteer for everything. James is a very busy man with saving high sec and all. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
120
|
Posted - 2014.06.22 23:12:00 -
[96] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:How does it feel to be the HIV - e of New Eden CODE Alliance?
Sure your viral strain is causing mass damage to the system of Aufay right now, but with any medical treatment a cure will be found that will rid the body of Aufay of your filth.
Where is your savior?
James315? He never comes out of his house to lead you in glorious battle. Yet he expects you to do his bidding.
What a shameful savior if I ever did see one.
Typical traitor brother to sacrifice those before him to reap the profits afterwards.
I dont even know where to start, so i wont.
#thecodealwayswins
#Thankyoutoourgoonoverlordsformakingthishappen A True Champion of High Security Space |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
463
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:44:00 -
[97] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:
Actually it will work to a certain degree. If the gankers have enough alpha to kill the target in one fleet volley, then the target will die before Concord can kill the gankers. If the gankers do not have enough to alpha in one volley, and have to fire more that 2-3 volleys; then Concord being on grid may counter the gank, as Concord will most likely be able to one shot the gankers. Not to mention Concord also jams, and Faction Police will also be on hand.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.
Read over Dryson's proposal that we are discussing, the mighty "The Scissors Attack Technique" Now, stop laughing :) Anyway, check out the specifics of what he has titled as "The final tactic against CODE." which will result in the "beginning of a new era".
So, the final tactic consists of - "First create two alts from your primary." Sure. Ok, now we find the bumping ship that is keeping the freighter where we want it. Check! Ok, now one of those throw away alts shoots the bumping ship. This results in the alts rookie ship being lost, ONE spawn of concord being moved on grid, and that alt having a 15 min countdown during which time he no longer can have any meaningful effect on anything.
Now, at this point DrysonBennington starts to lose touch with reality. To quote:
"This will draw CONCORD to the exact location where the target is located. You will lose security status and a rookie ship in the process but getting the auto-pilots through the gates is more important. "
This makes zero sense and I don't understand how he thinks that doing a trivial amount of damage to the bumper and causing one CONCORD spawn to appear on grid is somehow going to.... prevent the bumper from keeping the freigher bumped?
But wait! The unstoppable "scissors attack technique" has a secret weapon! A SECOND ALT. According to Dryson, we can now use that second alt to cause a "fresh set" of concord to show up on grid! Right? No! Not even close :) There is already one CONCORD spawn on grid. That spawn will destroy the second alt, resulting in no change at all to the situation.
And then we have..
"Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize."
We've totally jumped off the reality bus now and are just lost in the vast wilderness of how game mechanics work in the mind of DrysonBenningon. You can continue to employ this tactic as long as you want - there is still ONE concord spawn on grid, and everytime one of these two magical alts shoots something on the same grid - that exact same concord spawn kills the alt. Additional spawns are not created.
So, we warp in to kill the freighter in a fleet of 10-30 ships depending on the targets fittings and what kind of ganking fleet comp we are running. Let's assume we use 20 catalyst players to attack our target.
All 20 cats drop on grid and open fire. Whoever was unlucky enough to fire FIRST will be destroyed by the SINGLE spawn of CONCORD after somewhere around 8 seconds. That unlucky agent will have time to fire 3-5 vollys depending on skills.
That leaves 19 cats on grid who have also starting shooting, and the moment they opened fire - if there is already other CONCORD spawns *anywhere* in the system, that spawn will jump to that player after the normal amount of time passes. Assuming this is 0.5 - we're talking a full 17-22 seconds before that player is locked down and destroyed. Repeat this for all 19 of the players. If there are not already 19 spawns of CONCORD somewhere in the system - then a "fresh" spawn will show up for some of the players. The "fresh" spawn is actually a little bit quicker then a spawn is already available in the system, and the result is about 5 seconds less time for that player. So 12-17 seconds or so.
tl;dr version - this technique in our imaginary 20 man catalyst fleet results in 1 of the 20 not doing the full amount of damage. This is why generally you use a bit more firepower then you actually need to make this a total non-issue.
Now, let's get creative and assume Dryson gets 10 other people to imagine he knows what he is talking about. So all ten of them warp to the bumper and fire - now we have TEN spawns on concord right on the gate, which will cut out DPS by a bunch - but that's where basic strategy comes into play! We have a few simple choices at this point that negate this, I'll give you the super obvious ones and leave some of them to your imagination or google use to figure out.
1) Bumper counts ten concord spawns @ gate. Ten of us undock in rookie ships and warp to the POCO that is closest to the gate and all shoot it at the same time. All ten spawns move to the poco. Gate is clear. Gank fleet warps in.
2) Bumper bumps the freighter over 150km away from all concord spawns. If concord is more then 150km away from you when you go criminal, they might as well 100au away. You get the full timer.
But wait! What if after we pull concord away from the gate the might scissors technique players all undock their second alts and go shoot the bumper again?
I'm not going to go any further with this except to assure you that with some creative thinking and understanding of how CONCORD moves and how Criminal timers work - and perhaps some support from a rather large and specific ship type - this is just trivial.
End result of the "Scissors Technique" = worthless. Based on someone's incomplete understanding of the involved mechanics and of no value against a experienced gank fleet. At best - it would present a minor annoyance that may result int the target being destroyed 2 or 3 mins later then it would have without the "Scissiors Technique".
Unlike DrysonBennington - this analysis is based on actual proven experience. :-) |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
191
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:35:00 -
[98] - Quote
Excellent. Detailed and accurate. Unlike anything Dryson said. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
406
|
Posted - 2014.06.23 15:44:00 -
[99] - Quote
Gotcha! Very good explanation, but couldn't one spawn of Concord be able to kill multiple ships? After all they instapop ships, so I would assume they could kill ships in quick succession. Isn't that what happens? The onsite Concord kills the first ship, then the second, and so on. What I am getting from DJentropy is that a new Concord has to spawn to deal with additional ships. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
191
|
Posted - 2014.06.23 16:52:00 -
[100] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:Gotcha! Very good explanation, but couldn't one spawn of Concord be able to kill multiple ships? After all they instapop ships, so I would assume they could kill ships in quick succession. Isn't that what happens? The onsite Concord kills the first ship, then the second, and so on. What I am getting from DJentropy is that a new Concord has to spawn to deal with additional ships.
No, each concord spawn deals with one criminal only. Once they are done, then they respond to a second criminal, but that second response has the same response timer, even though they are already on grid and actively responding. However if every active criminal on grid already has a concord unit en-route to respond to them, they will sit there on grid waiting for a new criminal to flag. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
143
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:16:00 -
[101] - Quote
Come on Bossy CODE. move along into the feeding stalls.
Just like cattle.
CODE. knows it will never be able to leave Aufay for better grazing pastures as CODE. is too lazy to go any further than a few AU from the barn.
James315 has left his herd behind and no longer cares for them...otherwise he would herd them in his home region.
Untended cattle become the property of whom ever rounds them up and is able to keep them penned up so they don't damage the rest of the grazing fields.
Since Bossy CODE. is Aufay now we should divide the herd up and manage them and send them into low sector to find new grazing fields there to bring their new ranchers wealth and new calf's to train and then put into the fields.
Let's see we have BOSSY ANGUS BEEF CODE. and BOSSY HOLSTEIN MILK MAKER CODE....nice utters....how much beef and milk can BOSSY CODE. make for their new ranchers? |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
191
|
Posted - 2014.06.23 23:29:00 -
[102] - Quote
This thread has devolved into a few intelligent people having discussions on varying tactics to try to white knight or at least make some money off of Code. , and, Dryson spouting insane nonsense.
You sound like a fool Dryson, just stop. And by stop I mean don't stop, your ranting tears are hilarious. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
409
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Posted - 2014.06.24 19:57:00 -
[103] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Gotcha! Very good explanation, but couldn't one spawn of Concord be able to kill multiple ships? After all they instapop ships, so I would assume they could kill ships in quick succession. Isn't that what happens? The onsite Concord kills the first ship, then the second, and so on. What I am getting from DJentropy is that a new Concord has to spawn to deal with additional ships. No, each concord spawn deals with one criminal only. Once they are done, then they respond to a second criminal, but that second response has the same response timer, even though they are already on grid and actively responding. However if every active criminal on grid already has a concord unit en-route to respond to them, they will sit there on grid waiting for a new criminal to flag.
Now I have to ask, doesn't that sound kind of effed up? I realize that is the mechanic, but that is a bit like the police responding to a shootout, one officer shows up shoots one criminal and then just stands around looking like a goon. |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
123
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Posted - 2014.06.26 05:11:00 -
[104] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Come on Bossy CODE. move along into the feeding stalls.
Just like cattle.
CODE. knows it will never be able to leave Aufay for better grazing pastures as CODE. is too lazy to go any further than a few AU from the barn.
James315 has left his herd behind and no longer cares for them...otherwise he would herd them in his home region.
Untended cattle become the property of whom ever rounds them up and is able to keep them penned up so they don't damage the rest of the grazing fields.
Since Bossy CODE. is Aufay now we should divide the herd up and manage them and send them into low sector to find new grazing fields there to bring their new ranchers wealth and new calf's to train and then put into the fields.
Let's see we have BOSSY ANGUS BEEF CODE. and BOSSY HOLSTEIN MILK MAKER CODE....nice utters....how much beef and milk can BOSSY CODE. make for their new ranchers?
I dont even A True Champion of High Security Space |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
583
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Posted - 2014.06.26 12:29:00 -
[105] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Come on Bossy CODE. move along into the feeding stalls.
Just like cattle.
CODE. knows it will never be able to leave Aufay for better grazing pastures as CODE. is too lazy to go any further than a few AU from the barn.
James315 has left his herd behind and no longer cares for them...otherwise he would herd them in his home region.
Untended cattle become the property of whom ever rounds them up and is able to keep them penned up so they don't damage the rest of the grazing fields.
Since Bossy CODE. is Aufay now we should divide the herd up and manage them and send them into low sector to find new grazing fields there to bring their new ranchers wealth and new calf's to train and then put into the fields.
Let's see we have BOSSY ANGUS BEEF CODE. and BOSSY HOLSTEIN MILK MAKER CODE....nice utters....how much beef and milk can BOSSY CODE. make for their new ranchers?
Wow.
I am just stunned to to end. I offer a detailed guide to his "technique" and explain using multiple examples and easy to understand explanations of game mechanics, and the response is...... well, this.
Though, we must remember this is from the same man who had to be educated at great length over a period of days that his other strategy of purchasing ESS (Encounter Surveillance System) units and deploying them at high-sec gates was the best idea - due to his crew being able to collect larger bounties by scratching our paint in the time it takes concord to kill us. Dryson is cursed with a very strong desire to take a very active role in leadership of..... something..... and he will not allow his refusal to even learn the most basic in game mechanics to stand in his way.
No, i'm not kidding. And read it out loud, it's funnier when you say it more then once. Trust me. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
192
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Posted - 2014.06.26 16:16:00 -
[106] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Gotcha! Very good explanation, but couldn't one spawn of Concord be able to kill multiple ships? After all they instapop ships, so I would assume they could kill ships in quick succession. Isn't that what happens? The onsite Concord kills the first ship, then the second, and so on. What I am getting from DJentropy is that a new Concord has to spawn to deal with additional ships. No, each concord spawn deals with one criminal only. Once they are done, then they respond to a second criminal, but that second response has the same response timer, even though they are already on grid and actively responding. However if every active criminal on grid already has a concord unit en-route to respond to them, they will sit there on grid waiting for a new criminal to flag. Now I have to ask, doesn't that sound kind of effed up? I realize that is the mechanic, but that is a bit like the police responding to a shootout, one officer shows up shoots one criminal and then just stands around looking like a goon.
I cannot disagree with you, but I'm glad it works the way it does. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.06.29 19:30:00 -
[107] - Quote
It should be known to all of New Eden that any and all High Sector Gankers even those who say that they gank solo are considered to be part of the CODE. Alliance without regards to their independent nature.
Still penned up in Aufay I see.
Because its easy and takes less time than a mining operation.
Shameful display of PvP.
I hope CODE enters into the Tournaments so we can all laugh at their brilliant display of Blob Warfare.
Taking control of the chaos is the goal of the High Protectorate Ranger so that the chaos will be extinguished before the eyes of those ganked and the real serenity of peace restored instead of falsely created chaos and hope that is created by the chaotic only to better their own laziness. |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
609
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Posted - 2014.06.29 22:35:00 -
[108] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:It should be known to all of New Eden that any and all High Sector Gankers even those who say that they gank solo are considered to be part of the CODE. Alliance without regards to their independent nature.
I have no idea what you were even trying to say here. So all solo gankers are CODE. alliance members? Read what you said out loud and give it another shot for us, please.
DrysonBennington wrote: I hope CODE enters into the Tournaments so we can all laugh at their brilliant display of Blob Warfare.
Umm, the alliances in the upcoming AT have already been announced, CODE. alliance is part of it, and you should look over the rules - it's hard to engage in "Blob Warfare" when you have a system of teams that are matched pretty darn evenly by a very specific set of rules :)
DrysonBennington wrote: Taking control of the chaos is the goal of the High Protectorate Ranger so that the chaos will be extinguished before the eyes of those ganked and the real serenity of peace restored instead of falsely created chaos and hope that is created by the chaotic only to better their own laziness.
100million ISK to the first person to diagram this sentence. For real. Provide a screencap of a proper sentence diagram to be considered. |
Scrimtar
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.06.29 22:40:00 -
[109] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Rather to be long winded and full of life than small minded and full of scrim.
Wut ? . |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
609
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Posted - 2014.06.29 22:45:00 -
[110] - Quote
Scrimtar wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Rather to be long winded and full of life than small minded and full of scrim. Wut ? .
rofl I just shot coffee out of my nose, how did I miss that one?
"Full of scrim" = what does that even MEAN, damn it?
Dryson, please get back here and post moar, ok? |
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Scrimtar
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.06.29 22:51:00 -
[111] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Scrimtar wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Rather to be long u and full of life than small minded and full of scrim. Wut ? . rofl I just shot coffee out of my nose, how did I miss that one? "Full of scrim" = what does that even MEAN, damn it? Dryson, please get back here and post moar, ok?
I was reading all this with my main i saw this and couldn't resist so logged in my alt. XD |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
127
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Posted - 2014.06.29 22:55:00 -
[112] - Quote
Paynus Maiassus wrote:Has anyone tried this? Does it work?
Your Orca was delicious tonight. Never stop poasting.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
622
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Posted - 2014.07.01 02:24:00 -
[113] - Quote
Scrimtar wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Scrimtar wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Rather to be long u and full of life than small minded and full of scrim. Wut ? . rofl I just shot coffee out of my nose, how did I miss that one? "Full of scrim" = what does that even MEAN, damn it? Dryson, please get back here and post moar, ok? I was reading all this with my main i saw this and couldn't resist so logged in my alt. XD
FULL OF SCRIM
FULL OF SCRIM
I see what you did there.
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Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
195
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Posted - 2014.07.01 06:49:00 -
[114] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote: Taking control of the chaos is the goal of the High Protectorate Ranger so that the chaos will be extinguished before the eyes of those ganked and the real serenity of peace restored instead of falsely created chaos and hope that is created by the chaotic only to better their own laziness.
I agree Dryson, CODE. does create hope. It's not false hope though. The White Knights generate false hope for themselves, each other, and the odd carebear who isn't too AFK to notice. It amuses me that with all that CODE. does, it's detractors still resort to petty name calling and often, outright lies. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:16:00 -
[115] - Quote
It has come to the attention of those resisting the CODE. Alliances delusional attacks in High Sector that they are in fact part of Goonswarms attempt to force High Sector players into a state of compliance with the will of Goonswarm in order for Goonswarm to have more of a presence in High Sector so they can reign supreme in Null space.
The connection between CODE and Goons can be proven as I have a kill mail on one of their advisors they sent in with a blob recently which was most likely meant as a training exercise to indoctrinate the Goon into the tactics used by CODE that the same tactics could be used by Goon elsewhere
It is rather apparent that if Goonswarm is supplying CODE with ISK to conduct their ganks that many new High Sector gankers will be joining CODE in its rampage across New Eden.
CODE. has become more than a nuisance and is now considered the Scourge of High Sector.
It is therefore necessary that all Alliances, Corporations and Independents against Goonswarm to engage in acts of hostility against CODE. Alliance in order to ensure that Goonswarm does not conquer High Sector for its Low and Null Space Empirical designs. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.07.01 10:23:00 -
[116] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:DrysonBennington wrote: Taking control of the chaos is the goal of the High Protectorate Ranger so that the chaos will be extinguished before the eyes of those ganked and the real serenity of peace restored instead of falsely created chaos and hope that is created by the chaotic only to better their own laziness.
I agree Dryson, CODE. does create hope. It's not false hope though. The White Knights generate false hope for themselves, each other, and the odd carebear who isn't too AFK to notice. It amuses me that with all that CODE. does, it's detractors still resort to petty name calling and often, outright lies.
...and how does CODE create hope?
All CODE does is ganks AFK freighters, Orca's and any other ship that it thinks is a botter.....
Ah...the real delusional of CODE has been discovered.....CODE hates AFK'ers because CODE wants everyone to believe in doing only one thing at any one time and that multi-tasking is a sin because it involves Liberal thinking.
CODE is nothing more than single tracked Conservatives who want people glued to the monitor so they can project their delusion of God, AKA Kane, being the single and most important factor that determines their every move, their every though and their very existence. ......nothing short of false hope.
Less than false hope because the same method has been played out time and time again...eon after eon....with only the insanity of the hopeless, that being CODE, being real. |
Logan PewPew
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2014.07.01 15:32:00 -
[117] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:There is no such thing as James315 walking around in High Sector as your savior because any such notion conveys an anti-Christ mentality of someone saying that they are James from a religious textbook when in fact they are nothing more than the twisted and rotted flesh of someone from the past.
Your prophet is based on someone from the past who has died. You make no sense. James 315 is an active Eve Online character. Where did this talk of an anti-Christ come from? And when did this suddenly become about religion?
Well, to be fair, the religiousity of the whole CODE thing is a bit weird but i also think that it's all tongue 'n cheek for the majority of codies. |
Logan PewPew
Crazy Bird Inc. The Fire Nation Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2014.07.01 15:38:00 -
[118] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:It has come to the attention of those resisting the CODE. Alliances delusional attacks in High Sector that they are in fact part of Goonswarms attempt to force High Sector players into a state of compliance with the will of Goonswarm in order for Goonswarm to have more of a presence in High Sector so they can reign supreme in Null space.
The connection between CODE and Goons can be proven as I have a kill mail on one of their advisors they sent in with a blob recently which was most likely meant as a training exercise to indoctrinate the Goon into the tactics used by CODE that the same tactics could be used by Goon elsewhere
It is rather apparent that if Goonswarm is supplying CODE with ISK to conduct their ganks that many new High Sector gankers will be joining CODE in its rampage across New Eden.
CODE. has become more than a nuisance and is now considered the Scourge of High Sector.
It is therefore necessary that all Alliances, Corporations and Independents against Goonswarm to engage in acts of hostility against CODE. Alliance in order to ensure that Goonswarm does not conquer High Sector for its Low and Null Space Empirical designs.
I'm not sure where to begin are you seriously this invested in the whole HiSec anti-ganking thing? You do realize that fighting back is exactly what they want, right?
IMO, the best possible way for you to get your pound of flesh is to just become impossible (or practically impossible) to gank.
Content is content and i think you should forge ahead withwhat you're doing but in reality the best way to "win" this fight is to never give it in the first place. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
195
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Posted - 2014.07.01 16:20:00 -
[119] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:non-sense Your accusations against CODE. demonstrate your lack of understanding of what CODE. is, and why it exists. Go ahead, mistake CODE. for Goons, it's not entirely innacurate, there are many Goons who fly with CODE.. But to think that CODE. is an extension of Goonswarm is a mistake. CODE. transcends corporations, alliances, even Coalitions. Anyone and everyone is welcome to fly with the New Order. Your rants are evidence of the reason we do what we do, people like you are the very reason the New Order is necessary to bring hope to high sec of a better future. We strive to save all of EVE from your delusions. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
372
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Posted - 2014.07.02 02:45:00 -
[120] - Quote
Hisec is actually a Goonswarm front. All of it. The ganking and general chicanery are just cover operations to keep the True Justice of New Eden from figuring out the ruse. |
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Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
198
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Posted - 2014.07.02 03:44:00 -
[121] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote:Hisec is actually a Goonswarm front. All of it. The ganking and general chicanery are just cover operations to keep the True Justice of New Eden from figuring out the ruse.
So basically everyone is goons except Dryson and anyone who says otherwise is part of the conspiracy? Seems legit. I second that claim. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
631
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:55:00 -
[122] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:It has come to the attention of those resisting the CODE. Alliances delusional attacks in High Sector that they are in fact part of Goonswarms attempt to force High Sector players into a state of compliance with the will of Goonswarm in order for Goonswarm to have more of a presence in High Sector so they can reign supreme in Null space.
The connection between CODE and Goons can be proven as I have a kill mail on one of their advisors they sent in with a blob recently which was most likely meant as a training exercise to indoctrinate the Goon into the tactics used by CODE that the same tactics could be used by Goon elsewhere
It is rather apparent that if Goonswarm is supplying CODE with ISK to conduct their ganks that many new High Sector gankers will be joining CODE in its rampage across New Eden.
CODE. has become more than a nuisance and is now considered the Scourge of High Sector.
It is therefore necessary that all Alliances, Corporations and Independents against Goonswarm to engage in acts of hostility against CODE. Alliance in order to ensure that Goonswarm does not conquer High Sector for its Low and Null Space Empirical designs.
Perhaps employing the unstoppable "scissors attack technique" will result in the destruction of the New Order and the CFC?
Grrrr Goons
Grrrr New Order
If all of the Grrrr and even the legendary "scissors attack technique" fails, perhaps you could fall back on your earlier plan to deploy ESS units in high-sec to.... get more bounty when you do 1% damage on a Catalyst that is being concordokken? That plan was solid, even if the whole "game mechanics" thing and "reading" thing says otherwise.
If even that fails, I think faction fit marauders with smartbombs might be called for. That'll show em, Dryson! |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
146
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:05:00 -
[123] - Quote
The newest Anti-CODE message from JTClone Ares.
https://soundcloud.com/mavericks4562514543/e-day
A source of messaging that CODE does not have nor used and since an Anti-CODE Ganker got to it first then the advantage will always be ours in the propaganda war. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
199
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:55:00 -
[124] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:The newest Anti-CODE message from JTClone Ares. https://soundcloud.com/mavericks4562514543/e-dayA source of messaging that CODE does not have nor used and since an Anti-CODE Ganker got to it first then the advantage will always be ours in the propaganda war.
He just makes himself sound like an idiot. He uses big words but screws up simple grammar. He's not motivational, he's just silly. At least this time he tried putting some emotion into it, was still weak though. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
632
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Posted - 2014.07.05 03:01:00 -
[125] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:The newest Anti-CODE message from JTClone Ares. https://soundcloud.com/mavericks4562514543/e-dayA source of messaging that CODE does not have nor used and since an Anti-CODE Ganker got to it first then the advantage will always be ours in the propaganda war.
Bah!
You think the New Order does not know top-secret JTclone style? You think we cannot defeat the mighty DrysonBennington "Scissor Technique"??? Bro, do you even propaganda war?
https://soundcloud.com/mr_seans/codes-e-day-salute-to-jtclone-ares
/me drops the mic and heads to the bar. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
199
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Posted - 2014.07.05 06:23:00 -
[126] - Quote
Now that was a successful motivation speech. Makes me want to get my gank on. Excellent work DJ, top notch quality. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
640
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Posted - 2014.07.05 06:32:00 -
[127] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Now that was a successful motivation speech. Makes me want to get my gank on. Excellent work DJ, top notch quality.
Thank you so much!
What is the most epic LOL, in my opinion, is Dryson's claim that his or JT's content will ensure they always have the edge in the propaganda war.
Dryson's "propaganda" consists of a bunch of insane strategies posted on the forums that are based on a game that only exists in his mind, and while I admire JTclone's effort to create content - and I mean this will all due respect - he's going to need to wake up pretty early in the morning and put a lot more effort into content if he wants to get on my level. :-) |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
647
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Posted - 2014.07.05 08:06:00 -
[128] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:The newest Anti-CODE message from JTClone Ares. https://soundcloud.com/mavericks4562514543/e-dayA source of messaging that CODE does not have nor used and since an Anti-CODE Ganker got to it first then the advantage will always be ours in the propaganda war. He just makes himself sound like an idiot. He uses big words but screws up simple grammar. He's not motivational, he's just silly. At least this time he tried putting some emotion into it, was still weak though.
Yup. However - give him time. He's learning. And unlike DrysonBennington - he's really putting effort into it, even if the product is still a touch sub-par. And, I have to say again - before I even posted my "remix" anywhere - I made sure to let him know what I was up to and provided him with an advance copy - his reaction was a totally classy LOL and a long conversation about microphone setup, use of audio filters, mastering, and pretty much audio engineering 101. I have respect for the guy, and I am sure his quality will improve.
In the meantime, can we please get a new mastermind strategy or amazing fit from DrysonBennington? My LMAO bucket is running a little bit low. Deploying ESS in high-sec for "extra bounty" kept me pretty happy for at least a few weeks, but I think it's time to refuel.
Dryson, what you got cooking? Share a new technique that makes the unstoppable "Scissors Technique" seem outdated. Explain the various stages of your CODE WARNING ALERT system (I've seen you issue a CODE 4 STAGE RED warning to local, but I am left wondering what code 1-3 is, and what the other colors in the spectrum respresent? For example, what is a CODE 2 STAGE PURPLE warning?) ... Suggest that freighters stop their madness and only haul in cargo expanded marauders.... Give us moar potential fits for your Tech II Noctis with high-sec belt ratting as it's primary role.... GIVE US MORE! The people have spoken! WE NEED MOAR! |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
201
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Posted - 2014.07.05 18:29:00 -
[129] - Quote
I would like to see what Dryson can do with tech 3 cruisers. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
249
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Posted - 2014.07.11 02:18:00 -
[130] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:The end of CODE has finally come to an end.
The Scissors Attack Technique. You know, dude ...
You preach this ... but I did not see you make any effort of doing it yourself.
Nope.
Empty words.
What else. Deeper Feelings Inc. - Selling reality ... as fiction. ;) http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - #3 Uedama. sigh... can't even make a proper sig. :/
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:53:00 -
[131] - Quote
CODE - Why is CODE hated so much? Is it for their undoubtedly insane religion that they have conjured from some deep and
mirrored cavern on some hell hole of a planet? Is it their constant mocking of everyone who is not CODE? Could it be the
desolation of their own thoughts?
Not the real reason that code is hated is because once they gank a freighter or an orca or other elite class of ship or
even a Rookie ship there is one truth that remains constant at the center of their world far hidden from but the most
trained of eye....CODE ganks to make Capsuleers purchase PLEX in order to regain their lost valuables. PLEX that costs
each Capsuleer more than just ISK....a fake currency but hard earned money from the real world paid with. They destroy
your fake value to make you spend real value to create your fake value....but....the fake value of ISK is real value
because it is paid for with money...unlike CODE that only ganks and thieves its way through our wallets both fake and
real....and because both values translate into real value both real and false...the act of CODE is in fact a criminal act
both in the real world and New Eden....extortion.
An extortion that would be pinned on CCP as bringing down the cost of PLEX when CODE's plan has been discovered and foiled
and exhalted when their plans have remained hidden and unseen as bringing the COST of PLEX down making them in their eyes
"White Knights" when regardless of their claimed status they first began as gankers and will always remain gankers
regardless, lashed to the power of the ring that they have created, while the ring of power deep within it's own design has
it's own agenda. An agenda that even remains hidden from the Masters who created it.
But until the ring of power has laid its plans before CODE for CODE to see the true meaning of power we must ride against
CODE, striking at their Macherials, their Omens, their Orca's and Providence that only the four Empire can unleash. Once
the ring has made its plans clear to CODE then the Master's theirself that hide in the desolation of Null Sector will feel
and untold tumultuous uproar from High Sector as masses of ships Fighters, Explorers, Miners and more scourge every Null
Sector System burning the old empires away to cleanse New Eden from the scourge of CODE and its Masters.
You will find CODE in Eudama or Aufay and as such their being - 10 Red is Always Dead you will have free rights to shoot
them down and all willing Pod them.
....let the Horn of Sanguinity sound in New Eden on this day as we begin to take back New Eden from these criminals both of
the real world and the perceived world....let no other Capsuleer fear the word CODE again.....let no Capsuleer be made to carry a CODE permit.
Aufay and Uemada are the places CODE strikes.
....one ring to rule them all....
Ride out and meet them New Eden...... |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
561
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Posted - 2014.07.12 09:14:00 -
[132] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:CODE - Why is CODE hated so much? Is it for their undoubtedly insane religion that they have conjured from some deep and
mirrored cavern on some hell hole of a planet? Is it their constant mocking of everyone who is not CODE? Could it be the
desolation of their own thoughts?
Not the real reason that code is hated is because once they gank a freighter or an orca or other elite class of ship or
even a Rookie ship there is one truth that remains constant at the center of their world far hidden from but the most
trained of eye....CODE ganks to make Capsuleers purchase PLEX in order to regain their lost valuables. PLEX that costs
each Capsuleer more than just ISK....a fake currency but hard earned money from the real world paid with. They destroy
your fake value to make you spend real value to create your fake value....but....the fake value of ISK is real value
because it is paid for with money...unlike CODE that only ganks and thieves its way through our wallets both fake and
real....and because both values translate into real value both real and false...the act of CODE is in fact a criminal act
both in the real world and New Eden....extortion.
An extortion that would be pinned on CCP as bringing down the cost of PLEX when CODE's plan has been discovered and foiled
and exhalted when their plans have remained hidden and unseen as bringing the COST of PLEX down making them in their eyes
"White Knights" when regardless of their claimed status they first began as gankers and will always remain gankers
regardless, lashed to the power of the ring that they have created, while the ring of power deep within it's own design has
it's own agenda. An agenda that even remains hidden from the Masters who created it.
But until the ring of power has laid its plans before CODE for CODE to see the true meaning of power we must ride against
CODE, striking at their Macherials, their Omens, their Orca's and Providence that only the four Empire can unleash. Once
the ring has made its plans clear to CODE then the Master's theirself that hide in the desolation of Null Sector will feel
and untold tumultuous uproar from High Sector as masses of ships Fighters, Explorers, Miners and more scourge every Null
Sector System burning the old empires away to cleanse New Eden from the scourge of CODE and its Masters.
You will find CODE in Eudama or Aufay and as such their being - 10 Red is Always Dead you will have free rights to shoot
them down and all willing Pod them.
....let the Horn of Sanguinity sound in New Eden on this day as we begin to take back New Eden from these criminals both of
the real world and the perceived world....let no other Capsuleer fear the word CODE again.....let no Capsuleer be made to carry a CODE permit.
Aufay and Uemada are the places CODE strikes.
....one ring to rule them all....
Ride out and meet them New Eden......
whut??
Also you fail for LOTR references in a spaceship game Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Christina Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
271
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Posted - 2014.07.12 10:57:00 -
[133] - Quote
Wow, now he's a Rapstar too!
He's a BraveHeart and a Rapstar now, so I guess that makes him ...................... Deeper Feelings Inc. - Selling reality ... as fiction. ;) http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - #3 Uedama. sigh... can't even make a proper sig. :/
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Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
218
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Posted - 2014.07.13 05:53:00 -
[134] - Quote
You never fail to amuse Dryson. Please never quit Eve. Also, you really think that our master plan is to make people buy PLEX? We target primarily carebears... If carebears are so bad at carebearring that they need to replace their losses by buying PLEX then they should probably just stop and re-evaluate their choices in Eve. And this is coming from a casual gamer who has very little time to play. There are plenty of ways to make money, ESPECIALLY for carebears.
Also, don't fly what you can't afford to lose. If you have to buy PLEX to replace your loss, you shouldn't have been flying that. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.07.13 19:37:00 -
[135] - Quote
I was looking at some of CODE's kills and it appears that they are using the Gila to Tristan Drone Exploit. How obvious can it be when your primary weapon of damage are Hammerhead I's that have done 20,000 DPS within tens seconds?
Gankers don't use drones because it is an overriding cost factor.
CODE...has been caught. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.07.13 19:40:00 -
[136] - Quote
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin - It worked on you didn't it?
Such a flawless and invisible perfection would have seen the trap and would not have replied to the post. But since you have you have failed your self and you have failed life.
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
420
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Posted - 2014.07.13 21:10:00 -
[137] - Quote
People use drones to gank all the time. T1 Vexors with Gardes are the ship-of-choice for blowing up T1 Industrials on gates. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
222
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:29:00 -
[138] - Quote
Indeed. I'm currently training up for gank vexors, simply cannot beat them for cost efficient dps. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
414
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Posted - 2014.07.18 14:55:00 -
[139] - Quote
You want the most out of your Vexor? 2 Ogre II, 2 Hammerheads II, and 1 Hob II w/ 2 x Drone Damage Amps = 450 dps in drones. You can add another 220 dps using Heavy Ion Blasters IIs. If you don't care for having a tank, you can put Heavy Neutron Blasters on it and add another DDA. This would bring your max dps up to around 750. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19676
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Posted - 2014.07.20 15:04:00 -
[140] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote: Gankers don't use drones because it is an overriding cost factor.
Horseshit, before the drone bay was removed from the Catalyst drones were commonly deployed during a gank. CODE. also use Vexors, drone boats...
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
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Jolly Rancer
New Order Logistics CODE.
168
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Posted - 2014.07.27 08:24:00 -
[141] - Quote
Posting in a Benny & the Jets thread! Woohoo mom look at me \o/ |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:10:00 -
[142] - Quote
One thing that CODE cannot do for theirselves is actually doing something for theirselves. They have to make others give them ISK through their Mining, Travel, Mission Running and other types of insane permits they can think of. CODE is unable to do anything for theirselves which brings about their lazy ganking of any ship they come across.
Only lazy minded and sloths actively gank for the period that they have been ganking in High Sector. Because CODE have been labeled terrorists of New Eden because of their operations in High Sector those contributing to the defense of helpless ships are asking ALL New Eden Capsuleer's regardless of who you are and what you do to set the CODE. Alliance to -Red is Dead standings as well as blocking those members that you come across in Local Chat so as to keep them from trying to brainwash you into purchasing one of their Failmits. or Permits as they are called.
Without CODE. Alliance being able to communicate with you regarding the selling of their Failmits they will become frustrated and actually have to do something like mine or run missions like everyone else.
If you haven't been a victim of CODE....you will eventually so protect yourself now and block them.
....Oh and by the way CODE most people reading this thread will generally read what the OP has to say and be amused by the rest.
Total number of Orca, Freighter and Mining Barge Pilots added as contacts and have been made aware of the CODE Alliance :
403 tagged and added as contacts....I know where they are CODE and YOU DON'T.
Total amount of ISK received for such services from pilots : 0....
just the way it will be and shall remain so until then. |
JTClone Ares
Arcane New Order
2
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Posted - 2014.07.30 00:28:00 -
[143] - Quote
All the code is are bullies and they are about to kill a major part of new players by setting up an event to kill ventures and noob's in rookie systems. At the moment all the code really wants are killmails and say hey look at us we are the bad a** players of eve. The only reason i did those speeches against the code was to get everyone to know how they treat other players of eve. Their mental attitude is to have everyone in high sec play the way they want eve players to play. By what ganking other players and fueling your own killmails.
A majority of us don't give a flying rip about killmails we decide to either build the game and develop an area of the games foundation, and all the code is doing is taking that foundation and ripping it apart. On their main website code takes the pleasure of using us high sec carebears and showing anyone who reads the site on how violent we are in local.
All we are doing is treating the code how they treat us.(this is where the old saying comes in: "treat others the way you want to be treated")
I prefer to use the truth as a weapon and those who cant handle it can cry me a river build me a bridge and get over it. Right now if code gets to gank as many ventures and kills a good part of the players who play eve. Then that means a couple of things:
1. Code is using the Eula agreement to their advantage 2. Telling everyone who is in high sec to play their way when it is a sandbox game which means everyone is allowed to do what ever they want to do in eve 3. the Eula Agreement is an agreement that lets other people know before playing a game that we want people who understand what they are getting into and know what can happen if something does happen 4. Eve is made for everyone not just a few(the needs of many outweigh the few)
CCP I urge you do so something because i am not leaving this game because i love playing eve with friends. And i do encourage to to get on these idiots who are playing you for fouls because the last thing i want to see is eve go down the toilet like a game i use to play called global agenda(only hackers, multiboxers, losers play it now) and when the game community had asked for something to be done about them and they had left it to the needs of few instead of listening to the needs of many.
CCP you need to draw a fine line of where old players cannot become a few players then those few players pick on everyone just to say hey look at us we are the bada** players of eve and we have cause a majority of eve to leave game. That is something i will stand up against and enough is enough.
CODE have been extorting other players which is legal in the game but picking on other players and having them hang and dry on their main website and saying look at how these players treat us and we should kill them all just to fuel our needs. so when did the needs of a few outweigh the many. it never did.
I do in fact encourage other players to not buy a permit to use what ever weapon they have against the code and not give them any respect or honor because respect and honor is earned and it can never be taken.
the code needs to earn its respect as well as its honor. It has none and never will be since they are using the mechanics and systems for their own fun.
And should i remind everyone eve is a sandbox game and anything can happen in it. But when you have an opposing force come in and say how everyone should play the game and only to use everyone else for their own fun is just plain wrong. Since when did playing a sandbox MMO start to become an Empire Build game where only a few players play it(ie less then 200).
The code and everyone who hates be is allowed to have their own opinion but the moment you say my opinion is not like yours sorry but you can not shove your own opinion down mine and say what you want and get your ways when i am around. I like to help other players and have each player have their own voice instead of everyone having 1 voice.
The best Leaders to ever lead, lead by example never by force or fear. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
253
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:44:00 -
[144] - Quote
JTClone Ares wrote:All the code is are bullies and they are about to kill a major part of new players by setting up an event to kill ventures and noob's in rookie systems.
Wait who said anything about rookie systems? The rest is pretty much true though. Lol venture kills.
JTClone Ares wrote:On their main website code takes the pleasure of using us high sec carebears and showing anyone who reads the site on how violent we are in local.
The most vulgar and violent threats I've ever received in my life have been from carebears in high sec, some of whom I had not even ganked. Minerbumping neither lies nor exaggerates, but if you want to defend people who spew profanities and RL threats at the drop of a hat when their internet spaceship gets blown up while they are playing a game about blowing up internet spaceships, then by all means, continue.
JTClone Ares wrote:All we are doing is treating the code how they treat us.(this is where the old saying comes in: "treat others the way you want to be treated")
That is actually exactly what we want you to do. Code would love to see all carebears take up arms, it would genuinely make Eve a better and more interesting game.
JTClone Ares wrote:1. Code is using the Eula agreement to their advantage
When carebears stop violating the EULA they'll stop getting in trouble for violating the EULA. Everyone has to play by the rules, I'm not really sure how you can 'use it to your advantage.'
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
253
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:44:00 -
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JTClone Ares wrote:2. Telling everyone who is in high sec to play their way when it is a sandbox game which means everyone is allowed to do what ever they want to do in eve
I hope you see the irony in you complaining about how Code plays the game. We do not disagree with Eve being a sandbox, we are playing in a sandbox, if you don't like the way we are playing, oh well, it's a sandbox.
JTClone Ares wrote:3. the Eula Agreement is an agreement that lets other people know before playing a game that we want people who understand what they are getting into and know what can happen if something does happen
That isn't remotely what the EULA is about.
JTClone Ares wrote:4. Eve is made for everyone not just a few(the needs of many outweigh the few)
Not sure how that's relevant.
JTClone Ares wrote:CCP I urge you do so something because i am not leaving this game because i love playing eve with friends. And i do encourage to to get on these idiots who are playing you for fouls because the last thing i want to see is eve go down the toilet like a game i use to play called global agenda(only hackers, multiboxers, losers play it now) and when the game community had asked for something to be done about them and they had left it to the needs of few instead of listening to the needs of many.
CCP created the environment and the rules, and Code plays by those rules in that environment. CCP created a game about internet spaceship violence. Code is fulfilling CCP's vision of what Eve is all about.
JTClone Ares wrote:CCP you need to draw a fine line of where old players cannot become a few players then those few players pick on everyone just to say hey look at us we are the bada** players of eve and we have cause a majority of eve to leave game. That is something i will stand up against and enough is enough.
Wow. Grammar, use it. I'm not sure what that is actually trying to say, but whatever the first part was, it turned into gibberish. As to the second part, are you actually going to argue that Code has caused 'a majority of eve to leave game'? Really? Show numbers to support your statement. Show us a graph showing Eve's population since the advent of Code.
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
253
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Posted - 2014.07.30 15:49:00 -
[146] - Quote
JTClone Ares wrote:the code needs to earn its respect as well as its honor. It has none and never will be since they are using the mechanics and systems for their own fun.
How is having fun in a game a bad thing? As to honor and respect, you're right, those things are earned. Code is earning them everyday. It might not agree with what you think honor and respect should look like, but that doesn't change the fact that more and more people are joining Code's cause and donating to support it's activities.
JTClone Ares wrote:Since when did playing a sandbox MMO start to become an Empire Build game where only a few players play it(ie less then 200).
Eve has always been about empire building. It's kinda part of what the game is about. Code is just the first group to go about it in this particular way.
Overall impressions 2/10.
Self contradicting arguments abound throughout.
Grammatical and spelling errors render reading the post more difficult that is necessary.
Consider having a third party edit and review your work in the future.
As for your overall thesis, Yes Eve is a sandbox. We are playing a certain way, that way includes demanding others to join our cause. At the end of the day though we are not forcing anyone to join us, just offering incentives for doing so and repercussions for not doing so. All of those things are part of the way we are choosing to play in the sandbox. Anyone and everyone is welcome to oppose us or join us, it is a sandbox after all. I'm not sure how you think that anything Code does is NOT part of sandbox game play. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
253
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Posted - 2014.07.30 17:26:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote: If you haven't been a victim of CODE....you will eventually so protect yourself now and block them.
Are you actually suggesting that the best way to protect yourself from Code is to block them? Guys Dryson invented a new tanking style! It's called denial tanking! Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
738
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Posted - 2014.07.31 00:31:00 -
[148] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:The end of CODE has finally come to an end.
The Scissors Attack Technique
Wherever CODE may be ganking the end result will the beginning of a new era.
The final tactic against CODE.
Since CODE draws the attack of CONCORD within twenty seconds after their attack and usually by then the target has been destroyed Anti-CODE members are going to be using a similar tactic.
First create two alts from your primary.
The alts only need to be basically trained and their Rookie skills will suffice.
Next set the CODE Alliance to - red to your corporation or - red to you. Block them all in the local chat channel so you are not saturated with their filth.
Next find the Macherial or other ship that is bumping the Freighter, Orca, Elite Class Ship and mark it as - orange.
Whenever you see the CODE Bumper ship stop bumping give a count of twenty seconds and fire at the bumper ship with alt one.
This will draw CONCORD to the exact location where the target is located. You will lose security status and a rookie ship in the process but getting the auto-pilots through the gates is more important.
Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
....The main thing to remember is that CODE hates being denied.....Just one ship will be enough to deny their whole alliance they ISK they want but are too lazy to go out and earn.
.....Oh by the way Cannibal Kane....I expect your toon to have its head shaven...all of that pretty hair being worn as a prize inside of my pod for all times.
Now go into low sector and PVP like real fighters....nothing but sissies with long hair......By CODE.
How'd that work out for you? Thanks for the KM.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
152
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Posted - 2014.07.31 02:08:00 -
[149] - Quote
Now that our Carebear-rage-bounties have been redeemed by a true Hero of New Eden, the number of white knights opposing us has plummeted.
So much for their cause I guess...
FREE SPACE! Between Ignorance and Wisdom |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
155
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Posted - 2014.08.02 22:02:00 -
[150] - Quote
It seems the CODE has stepped over the line finally and crossed over into the realm of making fun of deceased players family members.
Although I do not have all of the information nor was I there I do believe the blog's that I have been reading. Especially from Gorila's Blog that can be read here.
http://gankerbumping.blogspot.com/* Some foul language contained *
The main issue at hand is not really whether or not Gorila posted to his blog that his wife had recently passed away but more so the use of his wife's passing to by subscribers to purposely cause Gorila emotional discomfort and discontent with the environment thus causing him to leave the EvE - Online Community, which he has done.
I believe that there was another incident in which a subscriber was made to sing a song in what was called the Bonus Room where that subscriber was then made fun of on You Tube thus causing her or him to leave the environment permanently as well.
All role playing aside which cannot be used an excuse which such subscribers would hide behind saying "Eve - Online is a harsh place so we too must be harsh at all times." is no reason for such people to be inanimately without remorse and by making a joke out of the death of Gorila's wife in a public channel within Eve - Online is basically taking what happened on a blog and real world outside of Eve Online and making it public for everyone to see so that Gorila would be ridiculed in front of as many other Capsuleers as possible which is the same as taking something that happened in game and making the world know about so it that the person would be ridiculed in the real world as they were in the environment.
In - game incident / ridiculing ------> Out of game ridiculing Out of game incident / ridiculing ------> In game ridiculing
There is no difference.
When an incident like this occurs it effects the entire New Eden Community as a whole because the verbal actions of a few in such a manner discussed above does not promote a general healthy sense of welfare and being for EvE - Online but does promote a degrading health of the very consciousness of the community as a whole for the simple matter of fact that if one Capsuleer gets away with such comments then other Capsuleer's will use the same tactic against other Capsuleer's in New Eden thus causing more and more subscribers to cancel their accounts and never return. When Capsuleer's leave the Pod once and for all and return planet side the very essence of New Eden begins to crumble. Once the pillars of this community have cracked and are no longer able to support the roof then the New Eden Community will once again be like it was when EvE Gate collapsed and locked he community into this new universe....nearly lifeless and teetering on the edge of permanent collapse.
With that in mind I ask all veteran Capsuleer's regardless of who you are to instill a policy of respect among your subordinates and other Capsuleer's that you may come into contact with as we are the elder generation that must keep the younger generation tidy and clean while casting those who are unclean from New Eden in order to maintain the environment for new generations to experience something wonderful......with this in mind....let High Sector begin the build up process for the invasion of Null Sector.
High Sec vs Null Sec |
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Reddd Herring
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.03 04:25:00 -
[151] - Quote
"Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com"
No, actually, no guilty conscience at all. And no desire to help fund the CODE Pyramid scheme, either. I wonder how long until that James fellow absconds with the funds CODE has collected?
Dryson's thread here is not titled well. He seems to despise CODE more than anything and would like to see their downfall. His early postings had . . . Potential to become something more, but he is clearly not up to the task of encouraging and organizing the downfall, or simply the reduction of influence, of CODE. A pity, as they are an overbearing, pretentious, and annoying lot.
Really, CODE is simply just an organized crime protection racket with the trappings of a religious cult. Really? Trying to claim the morale high ground while practicing blackmail/extortion?
What does CODE, in essence, offer? They give players two choices: 1) We'll kill you!
or
2) Pay us money, and obey us, or we'll still kill you!
Hmmm. . . Damned if I do, damned if I don't . . .
No, the Code cult, despite their claims, is not the savior of High-Sec. But is definitely one of the problems.
Good luck, safe flying, and be excellent to one another!
Good luck, safe flying, and be excellent to one another! |
Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
742
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Posted - 2014.08.03 04:40:00 -
[152] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:words
The New Order does not support comments that break the EULA and ToS. Players that break the EULA and ToS should be petitioned and allow CCP to determine which course of action best pertains to the violation.
With that said, the player responsible for the illicit comment about Gorila's deceased wife is being dealt with within the confines of CCP disciplinary action and rightfully so. The New Order has also dealt with the player in-game.
Any further questions please email me in-game, thank you.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~PsychoticMonkCSM9~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
256
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Posted - 2014.08.03 16:20:00 -
[153] - Quote
What Starfox said.
I in no way support or condone behaviour that breaches the EULA or TOS, any if you think a player has done so, Code or not, please report them to CCP and let them sort it out. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
256
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Posted - 2014.08.03 16:47:00 -
[154] - Quote
Reddd Herring wrote:
What does CODE, in essence, offer? They give players two choices: 1) We'll kill you!
or
2) Pay us money, and obey us, or we'll still kill you!
Hmmm. . . Damned if I do, damned if I don't . . .
No, the Code cult, despite their claims, is not the savior of High-Sec. But is definitely one of the problems.
You forgot Option three, Join us and have a ton of fun! We have cookies! Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
223
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Posted - 2014.08.03 16:57:00 -
[155] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:One thing that CODE cannot do for theirselves is actually doing something for theirselves. They have to make others give them ISK through their Mining, Travel, Mission Running and other types of insane permits they can think of. CODE is unable to do anything for theirselves which brings about their lazy ganking of any ship they come across.
Only lazy minded and sloths actively gank for the period that they have been ganking in High Sector. Because CODE have been labeled terrorists of New Eden because of their operations in High Sector those contributing to the defense of helpless ships are asking ALL New Eden Capsuleer's regardless of who you are and what you do to set the CODE. Alliance to -Red is Dead standings as well as blocking those members that you come across in Local Chat so as to keep them from trying to brainwash you into purchasing one of their Failmits. or Permits as they are called. Let me first state that I am not an agent of the CODE. While I find their actions intriguing, their style of play doesn't match mine. We peacefully coexist, and I to frequent the minerbumping channel for some interesting chats and intel.
With that said, you have some serious misconceptions about CODE. pilots and operations.
1. They are largely funded by player donations, not loot drops from ganking, and not permit sales. These are nice additions to their income of course, but most of it comes directly from players donating to their cause.
2. CODE. agents are generally among the least lazy players I've ever interacted with. They actively seek targets, they communicate and coordinate with others, and they rely very heavily on something that escapes the grasp of many of their targets: teamwork. That's not lazy. Lazy is sitting on a gate in losec/nullsec waiting for something to maybe come through a gate so you can maybe get a shot off at it.
3. CODE. pilots spend a great deal of time learning the capabilities of their ships, the skills they need to train to maximize their performance, the capabilities of their targets, how to operate in hisec with poor security statuses, and how to fly together in a fleet under a competent FC. That's not lazy either.
3. Ask any experienced PvP-er and they will tell you that proper target selection is the key to winning any fight. Pick fights you can win, avoid ones you can't. (Side note: this is a large part of the reason why nullsec is devolving into a "blue donut". Can't beat the big boys? Go home, or join them.) CODE. agents are the absolute masters of target selection. Even if you disagree with their choice of targets on moral or ethical grounds (which you obviously do), you cannot argue with the tactical wisdom of it.
4. I've been on voice comms with them during their Burn Aufay campaign. I was there watching, chatting, and enjoying the occasional bounty killmail (which they were hapy to see me earn). Their voice comms sounded like any other well-organized fleet comms that I've ever been in, not the raving bunch of sociopathic PvP failures that they are made out to be.
In short, you may disagree with what CODE. agents do or what they stand for, but you any attempt to call them lazy, unskilled, or mentally deranged are, for the most part*, utter misrepresentations.
*DISCLAIMER: I say "for the most part" because, as with any organization, there will be exceptions. Just covering my butt here.... Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
225
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:07:00 -
[156] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:JTClone Ares wrote:On their main website code takes the pleasure of using us high sec carebears and showing anyone who reads the site on how violent we are in local. The most vulgar and violent threats I've ever received in my life have been from carebears in high sec, some of whom I had not even ganked. Minerbumping neither lies nor exaggerates, but if you want to defend people who spew profanities and RL threats at the drop of a hat when their internet spaceship gets blown up while they are playing a game about blowing up internet spaceships, then by all means, continue. I can personally verify that I have received more vitriol from pissed-off AFK haulers and miners than I ever have from CODE. agents. I have offered advice to autopiloting freighter pilots and miners, and in return I generally get cussed out, reported to channel mods, and threatened with bans. I have been on the scene of CODE. ganks collecting bounties and had bounties added to my head by so-called "white knights". And through all of this, I've never heard a harsh word from CODE. agents.
If EvE were to evolve into nothing but CODE. agents and followers, I rather imagine it will be a much more polite place, and I am totally okay with that. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
257
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:12:00 -
[157] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:*DISCLAIMER: I say "for the most part" because, as with any organization, there will be exceptions. Just covering my butt here....
A scholar and a gentleman. Your portrait is always a welcome sight in local. I have yet to have the pleasure of being on Comms with you but would love to change that at some point. As to your disclaimer, it is true, any organization that involves human beings of any kind will inevitably have the odd bad apple. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
257
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:14:00 -
[158] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:JTClone Ares wrote:On their main website code takes the pleasure of using us high sec carebears and showing anyone who reads the site on how violent we are in local. The most vulgar and violent threats I've ever received in my life have been from carebears in high sec, some of whom I had not even ganked. Minerbumping neither lies nor exaggerates, but if you want to defend people who spew profanities and RL threats at the drop of a hat when their internet spaceship gets blown up while they are playing a game about blowing up internet spaceships, then by all means, continue. I can personally verify that I have received more vitriol from pissed-off AFK haulers and miners than I ever have from CODE. agents. I have offered advice to autopiloting freighter pilots and miners, and in return I generally get cussed out, reported to channel mods, and threatened with bans. I have been on the scene of CODE. ganks collecting bounties and had bounties added to my head by so-called "white knights". And through all of this, I've never heard a harsh word from CODE. agents. If EvE were to evolve into nothing but CODE. agents and followers, I rather imagine it will be a much more polite place, and I am totally okay with that.
If you or someone else were to organize a genuine Code resistance with the level of organization and courteous behavior I've seen in Code, then an eternal war between those two groups would make for the best eve experience possible. Alas I doubt such a day will ever come, but I do my part to encourage it. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
225
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:39:00 -
[159] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:If you or someone else were to organize a genuine Code resistance with the level of organization and courteous behavior I've seen in Code, then an eternal war between those two groups would make for the best eve experience possible. Alas I doubt such a day will ever come, but I do my part to encourage it. I have genuinely toyed with such a notion. I would love nothing more than to have an endless stream of good fights generated by a Red vs. Blue style eternal struggle going on in hisec between CODE. agents and some anti-CODE. group. I can state with fair certainty that CODE. would welcome such a war, and I sincerely think such a war would be good for the overall EvE Community as well.
Ironically, such a successful war would have to not be about anti-ganking ideology. As much as I'm a fan of roleplaying, in this situation the ideology driving the current crop of anti-CODE. folks gets in the way of what they'd have to do to actually fight you. They are blinded by their false notions of you, and therefore can never successfully fight you.
To fight the CODE., you have to understand the CODE. Anti-gankers don't (at least not currently), and they will continue to fail until they do.
Sadly, I recognize my own shortcomings, and with my limited/erratic schedule of online time I am not the pilot to start such a glorious revolution. But if ever a war were to break out, I would gladly join. On which side, I cannot say. For now, I am content to pontificate, communicate, and, on occasion, eradicate. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
257
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Posted - 2014.08.03 17:48:00 -
[160] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:If you or someone else were to organize a genuine Code resistance with the level of organization and courteous behavior I've seen in Code, then an eternal war between those two groups would make for the best eve experience possible. Alas I doubt such a day will ever come, but I do my part to encourage it. I have genuinely toyed with such a notion. I would love nothing more than to have an endless stream of good fights generated by a Red vs. Blue style eternal struggle going on in hisec between CODE. agents and some anti-CODE. group. I can state with fair certainty that CODE. would welcome such a war, and I sincerely think such a war would be good for the overall EvE Community as well. Ironically, such a successful war would have to not be about anti-ganking ideology. As much as I'm a fan of roleplaying, in this situation the ideology driving the current crop of anti-CODE. folks gets in the way of what they'd have to do to actually fight you. They are blinded by their false notions of you, and therefore can never successfully fight you. To fight the CODE., you have to understand the CODE. Anti-gankers don't (at least not currently), and they will continue to fail until they do. Sadly, I recognize my own shortcomings, and with my limited/erratic schedule of online time I am not the pilot to start such a glorious revolution. But if ever a war were to break out, I would gladly join. On which side, I cannot say. For now, I am content to pontificate, communicate, and, on occasion, eradicate.
Eve needs more people like you. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2014.08.03 23:17:00 -
[161] - Quote
Another tactic of CODE - Creating alts that are used to troll threads they do not like to have the thread locked. This action in and of itself is an exploit and should be considered an offense that can cause the subscriber to be banned.
With that in mind I suggest to CCP that for each account that is active on the forums any character slot that has an active character should be placed underneath the account being used at the time of posting so that others will be able to see which characters belong to who so that such Forum exploitation will not occur. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
226
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Posted - 2014.08.04 00:13:00 -
[162] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Another tactic of CODE - Creating alts that are used to troll threads they do not like to have the thread locked. This action in and of itself is an exploit and should be considered an offense that can cause the subscriber to be banned.
With that in mind I suggest to CCP that for each account that is active on the forums any character slot that has an active character should be placed underneath the account being used at the time of posting so that others will be able to see which characters belong to who so that such Forum exploitation will not occur. No, for two reasons:
1. CCP bans accounts, not characters. If anyone uses an alt to violate the EULA or take advantage of any other exploit, the whole account gets banned, not just the offending character.
2. Having characters not be traceable back to an account (short of having a sufficient API key) is part of the underlying structure of the game. If you don't like what someone is doing with an alt, you pretty much have to live with it so long as the rules aren't being broken. If they are, report them, regardless of if they're a faceless alt or not. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
422
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Posted - 2014.08.04 02:38:00 -
[163] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Another tactic of CODE - Creating alts that are used to troll threads they do not like to have the thread locked. This action in and of itself is an exploit and should be considered an offense that can cause the subscriber to be banned.
With that in mind I suggest to CCP that for each account that is active on the forums any character slot that has an active character should be placed underneath the account being used at the time of posting so that others will be able to see which characters belong to who so that such Forum exploitation will not occur.
hahahahahaha how did your scissor attack technique go today?
Saw you lost a cyclone while it was scissoring. |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
422
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Posted - 2014.08.04 02:40:00 -
[164] - Quote
Looks like that blog is down - Another Code Success
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
464
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Posted - 2014.08.04 02:43:00 -
[165] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Another tactic of CODE - Creating alts that are used to troll threads they do not like to have the thread locked. This action in and of itself is an exploit and should be considered an offense that can cause the subscriber to be banned.
With that in mind I suggest to CCP that for each account that is active on the forums any character slot that has an active character should be placed underneath the account being used at the time of posting so that others will be able to see which characters belong to who so that such Forum exploitation will not occur.
I don't want to shock you, but have you considered the possibility that a number of people have independently reached the same conclusion about your ideas without having any formal CODE affiliation? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1038
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Posted - 2014.08.04 02:48:00 -
[166] - Quote
Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing. |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
143
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Posted - 2014.08.04 03:15:00 -
[167] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Looks like that blog is down - Another Code Success
Should've brought a blog permit A True Champion of High Security Space |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
422
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Posted - 2014.08.04 03:15:00 -
[168] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing.
you still whining about your pod losses?
hahahahaha |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1038
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Posted - 2014.08.04 03:22:00 -
[169] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing. you still whining about your pod losses? hahahahaha
It would appear i have a few pods to lose before i can match your losses :) |
Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
262
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Posted - 2014.08.04 03:51:00 -
[170] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing. you still whining about your pod losses? hahahahaha It would appear i have a few pods to lose before i can match your losses :)
Hey that!...... is possibly accurate. Carry on. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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Tengu Grib
Simple Inc Simple Group
262
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Posted - 2014.08.04 03:52:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Another tactic of CODE - Creating alts that are used to troll threads they do not like to have the thread locked. This action in and of itself is an exploit and should be considered an offense that can cause the subscriber to be banned.
With that in mind I suggest to CCP that for each account that is active on the forums any character slot that has an active character should be placed underneath the account being used at the time of posting so that others will be able to see which characters belong to who so that such Forum exploitation will not occur.
You really wouldn't want the ties between characters and accounts to be made public. That would be very bad for a lot of people. Code least of all. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
De'Veldrin
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
2734
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Posted - 2014.08.04 16:35:00 -
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After reading this thread, I can only assume that Dryson has succumbed to the madness of bot aspirancy, which led directly to the raving in this thread.
Out of respect for his obviously debilitating condition, if for no other reason, we should all seek to help him recover speedily so that he can resume a normal life as rapidly as possible. De'Veldrin's Corallary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
427
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Posted - 2014.08.04 19:21:00 -
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It would be awesome if this was just an elaborate troll. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
157
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:13:00 -
[174] - Quote
You really wouldn't want the ties between characters and accounts to be made public. That would be very bad for a lot of people. Code least of all.
It would only be bad for those who have conspired against others behind their masks and good for the rest of us as the veil of their lies and illusions would be lifted from our eyes.
Sorry the only one who is delusional is CODE and the followers of James 315......
Then they saw before them the White Knights of New Eden. Their steel horses rising from the darkest of depths from with the Universe, the soul of each ship imbued with Faith and Justice that is with faith and justice that they make their fight. Their eyes are like flames and their hand as heavy iron unto the wicked and heathen that would call theirselves saviors yet bring destruction to others in the name of their planet bound evil that hath awakened from some desolate and stagnant hole in the Universe that no one loved.
....Another tactic to use against CODE is to bump their bump ships out of alignment so that they are not able to bump their target.
This can be achieved by fitting a cruiser or battlecruiser with 1600 mm plates, T2 Overdrives , a T2 MWD along with velocity and plate rigs.
You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.
...and out of their mouths came sharp swords that their enemy would remember that shall whisper unto the dying of New Eden as they are gently taken from their pods.....remember Gorila and his Wife. |
Paranoid Loyd
1133
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Posted - 2014.08.04 23:35:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:.....remember Gorila and his Wife.
Let it go FFS, neither side should ever mention this again. Continually bringing this up makes you look bad if not worse than the "enemy"
You all should be ashamed of yourselves. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
427
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Posted - 2014.08.05 03:02:00 -
[176] - Quote
Crosi Wesdo wrote:loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing. you still whining about your pod losses? hahahahaha It would appear i have a few pods to lose before i can match your losses :)
Dont forget kills to.
Let me know when you catch up. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1042
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Posted - 2014.08.05 07:05:00 -
[177] - Quote
loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing. you still whining about your pod losses? hahahahaha It would appear i have a few pods to lose before i can match your losses :) Dont forget kills to. Let me know when you catch up.
We have almost the same number of kills. Most of my targets had guns too! |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
428
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Posted - 2014.08.05 13:15:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:loyalanon wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Whats a CODE alliance?
I am not familiar with this game mechanic. I assume its a high sec thing. you still whining about your pod losses? hahahahaha It would appear i have a few pods to lose before i can match your losses :) Dont forget kills to. Let me know when you catch up. We have almost the same number of kills. Most of my targets had guns too!
Actually, according to EVE-Kill, Crosi has 7 more kills to loyalanon. Guess loyalanon needs to do a little pipebombing in Pyne on the Hikko gate. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
235
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Posted - 2014.08.05 13:18:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:You really wouldn't want the ties between characters and accounts to be made public. That would be very bad for a lot of people. Code least of all.
It would only be bad for those who have conspired against others behind their masks and good for the rest of us as the veil of their lies and illusions would be lifted from our eyes.
Sorry the only one who is delusional is CODE and the followers of James 315......
Then they saw before them the White Knights of New Eden. Their steel horses rising from the darkest of depths from with the Universe, the soul of each ship imbued with Faith and Justice that is with faith and justice that they make their fight. Their eyes are like flames and their hand as heavy iron unto the wicked and heathen that would call theirselves saviors yet bring destruction to others in the name of their planet bound evil that hath awakened from some desolate and stagnant hole in the Universe that no one loved.
....Another tactic to use against CODE is to bump their bump ships out of alignment so that they are not able to bump their target.
This can be achieved by fitting a cruiser or battlecruiser with 1600 mm plates, T2 Overdrives , a T2 MWD along with velocity and plate rigs.
You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.
...and out of their mouths came sharp swords that their enemy would remember that shall whisper unto the dying of New Eden as they are gently taken from their pods.... There are none so blind as those who choose not to see.
While I admire your drive, tenacity, and flair for the dramatic, I do sincerely hope that some day you overcome your gross misconceptions of the CODE. On that day and henceforth, I foresee much interesting content being created.... Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
271
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Posted - 2014.08.05 17:19:00 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:You really wouldn't want the ties between characters and accounts to be made public. That would be very bad for a lot of people. Code least of all.
It would only be bad for those who have conspired against others behind their masks and good for the rest of us as the veil of their lies and illusions would be lifted from our eyes.
Sorry the only one who is delusional is CODE and the followers of James 315......
Then they saw before them the White Knights of New Eden. Their steel horses rising from the darkest of depths from with the Universe, the soul of each ship imbued with Faith and Justice that is with faith and justice that they make their fight. Their eyes are like flames and their hand as heavy iron unto the wicked and heathen that would call theirselves saviors yet bring destruction to others in the name of their planet bound evil that hath awakened from some desolate and stagnant hole in the Universe that no one loved.
....Another tactic to use against CODE is to bump their bump ships out of alignment so that they are not able to bump their target.
This can be achieved by fitting a cruiser or battlecruiser with 1600 mm plates, T2 Overdrives , a T2 MWD along with velocity and plate rigs.
You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.
...and out of their mouths came sharp swords that their enemy would remember that shall whisper unto the dying of New Eden as they are gently taken from their pods.... There are none so blind as those who choose not to see.While I admire your drive, tenacity, and flair for the dramatic, I do sincerely hope that some day you overcome your gross misconceptions of the CODE. On that day and henceforth, I foresee much interesting content being created....
On that day Code would actually start to take notice of Dryson in local beyond just being amused by his presence. On that day Dryson might actually be worrisome for Code. The content generated would be marvelous for all. I would love to see that day.
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
272
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Posted - 2014.08.05 17:28:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:You really wouldn't want the ties between characters and accounts to be made public. That would be very bad for a lot of people. Code least of all.
It would only be bad for those who have conspired against others behind their masks and good for the rest of us as the veil of their lies and illusions would be lifted from our eyes.
Guys like us would have the opportunity to harass you on all of your characters relentlessly, you would not be able to hide, you would not be able to run. And we would laugh at you and show you on the forum where you asked CCP for it. You would not want that to happen, trust me. The consequences would be worse for you than for us. Honestly, if you ask nicely I'll even tell you straight up who the other character on my account is. But you'll have to ask really nice.
DrysonBennington wrote:Sorry the only one who is delusional is CODE and the followers of James 315......
I don't think 'one' means what you think it means.
DrysonBennington wrote:Then they saw before them the White Knights of New Eden. Their steel horses rising from the darkest of depths from with the Universe, the soul of each ship imbued with Faith and Justice that is with faith and justice that they make their fight. Their eyes are like flames and their hand as heavy iron unto the wicked and heathen that would call theirselves saviors yet bring destruction to others in the name of their planet bound evil that hath awakened from some desolate and stagnant hole in the Universe that no one loved.
Dryson buddy, are you loosing your grip on sanity? Pull it back a notch bro.
DrysonBennington wrote:....Another tactic to use against CODE is to bump their bump ships out of alignment so that they are not able to bump their target.
This can be achieved by fitting a cruiser or battlecruiser with 1600 mm plates, T2 Overdrives , a T2 MWD along with velocity and plate rigs.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! This would be.... actually pretty annoying. Good plan Dryson, that one could actually work.
DrysonBennington wrote:You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE.
....aaaand you lost it. This one would not work nearly as well as you seem to think it would.
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
430
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Posted - 2014.08.05 17:58:00 -
[182] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE. ....aaaand you lost it. This one would not work nearly as well as you seem to think it would.
It might bump the ship out of target range for some of the ships. Might. The bumping ship would have to be really on it and already bumping when the gank team lands on grid. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
272
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Posted - 2014.08.05 18:02:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:You can also bump the target that CODE is bumping out of alignment right before their blob arrives. In doing so the catalysts that surround the target will not be equally placed around the target thus effecting the optimal range of the weapons of the Catalysts farthest from the target that will allow the target to warp to safety and Concord the White Knights to handle the....Remnants of CODE. ....aaaand you lost it. This one would not work nearly as well as you seem to think it would. It might bump the ship out of target range for some of the ships. Might. The bumping ship would have to be really on it and already bumping when the gank team lands on grid.
And would need sufficient tank to be that close to the gankers. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
430
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Posted - 2014.08.05 18:07:00 -
[184] - Quote
The best advice Dryson could be giving is:
- Watch d-scan. - Be aware of who is in system. - Orbit the asteroid, don't sit still. - Align to celestials and be prepared to warp out. - Use a scout. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
236
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Posted - 2014.08.05 18:20:00 -
[185] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:The best advice Dryson could be giving is:
- Watch d-scan. - Be aware of who is in system. - Orbit the asteroid, don't sit still. - Align to celestials and be prepared to warp out. - Use a scout. - Don't fly Jump Freighters through hisec Stargates. - Don't Autopilot. - Don't fit/haul more modules/cargo than your hull justifies. - Use web support if you're in a freighter. Adding tips for hauler pilots. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
63
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Posted - 2014.08.08 18:56:00 -
[186] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:CODE ganks Orcas? Please tell me you are getting decent loot from those Orca ganks. Otherwise, you're losing the isk war.
I can see suicide ganking in a cheap Cat, but Orca gank requires some pricey ships.
Super late to reply to this one, but why not?
Nope you can gank an orca and win the isk war easily,
Gank catty - 10-12m or less Orca - 700m+
that means we would have to sacrifice between 60 and 70 cattys to lose the ISK war, even with a DCII and RF Bulkheads it doesnt take that many. Not even close
Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2014.08.08 23:04:00 -
[187] - Quote
For those miner, freighter and Orca's pilots reading this thread the High Protectorate encourages you to take alternate routes away from Uedama and Aufay in order to keep from being ganked by CODE.
Your jumps and delivery times will be lengthened considerably which will cause the price of your services to increase you can be assured that your deliveries will arrive safely.
The cost offset for taking alternate routes is directly aligned with CODE's actions and any actions that are taken against them will help reduce their numbers and return the shipping lanes and expenses incurred to a normal rate.
It's better to pay a little more than have to lose the entire shipment.
You can blame CODE for the inflation. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
279
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Posted - 2014.08.09 04:36:00 -
[188] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:For those miner, freighter and Orca's pilots reading this thread the High Protectorate encourages you to take alternate routes away from Uedama and Aufay in order to keep from being ganked by CODE.
Your jumps and delivery times will be lengthened considerably which will cause the price of your services to increase you can be assured that your deliveries will arrive safely.
The cost offset for taking alternate routes is directly aligned with CODE's actions and any actions that are taken against them will help reduce their numbers and return the shipping lanes and expenses incurred to a normal rate.
It's better to pay a little more than have to lose the entire shipment.
You can blame CODE for the inflation.
Heh. Yup. Though honestly, I haven't noticed too much in the way of inflation. The market changes have more to do with the latest patch.
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
159
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Posted - 2014.08.10 00:50:00 -
[189] - Quote
Nertle |
Revan7719
47th D.D.S.O.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.10 05:03:00 -
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hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me. |
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
279
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:58:00 -
[191] - Quote
Revan7719 wrote:hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me. I used to think like you, then I saw the light and realized, holy crap! It's just a game! Honor is for those who wish to die in battle, dishonor is for those who wish to live to see another battle. Seeing as we die in neary every battle we fight...
End of the day, don't knock it till you try it. Hop in a catalyst, find a retriever, and shoot him. You'll have your eyes openend to a whole new side of the game.
And remember, it's a game, it's meant to be fun. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Azov Rassau
The Hornets Cartel
74
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:01:00 -
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Revan7719 wrote:The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. If he 'worked' so much for that pricy & capable ship, he also has to take responsibility for the ship's safety, just like real captains do. In EvE it's mostly about Not going AFK at the Ice Belt, checking Directional Scan, Keeping an eye in Local and Overview, and Fitting a tanky Orca. Some call it 'paranoia', but I call it staying alert and actually playing the game with the already-provided tools and mechanics. It's really easy to avoid being ganked.
Space is dark and harsh and you're never 100% safe, even in "high sec".
Btw welcome to EvE. No AFKing. -áSafety First. -áUse D-Scan, Check Local. -áBe Alert. |
DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
159
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:28:00 -
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Probing for CODE. Pilot locations and areas of operations.
After looking at the Star Map there is a pattern of CODE.'s activities.
You will most likely find CODE operating close to Null Space access points, 15 to 20 jumps where there is heavy traffic, more than 200 jumps every hour where the system being ganked in is a choke point.
CODE. is most likely operating as a Guerilla Warfare unit for the CFC Alliance which is directly related to Goon's.
CODE's operations involve ganking orca's is part of an act of attrition by GS to keep their rivals at bay. If you are not part of GS you can be assured that your name has been added to a list to be ganked or to be made to purchase a permit to help fund GS's operation.
The Lottery Spammer's are also most likely working for Goon Swarm as well trying to lure pilots into giving them ISK with the false sense of receiving a larger amount in return so the Goon Swarm can account for a pilot's ISK who are in either an NPC Corp or small Corp.
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DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
159
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:32:00 -
[194] - Quote
I used to think like you, then I saw the light and realized, holy crap! It's just a game! Honor is for those who wish to die in battle, dishonor is for those who wish to live to see another battle.
That is the biggest wheel barrel of CODE Crap I have seen dumped here in awhile....
Honor is for those who fight and may die in battle. Honor is for those who wish to see the next battle and kill their enemy. Honor is for those that see the enemy after the battle has long ended as being worthy of friendship just as they were worthy to fight and find their way safely back home.
Dishonor is for those who kill the innocent because the innocent cannot fight back or won't.----CODE. |
DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
159
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:33:00 -
[195] - Quote
Revan7719 wrote:hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me.
A very honorable pilot indeed....you should find us sometime.
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
284
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:54:00 -
[196] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Probing for CODE. Pilot locations and areas of operations.
After looking at the Star Map there is a pattern of CODE.'s activities.
You will most likely find CODE operating close to Null Space access points, 15 to 20 jumps where there is heavy traffic, more than 200 jumps every hour where the system being ganked in is a choke point.
CODE. is most likely operating as a Guerilla Warfare unit for the CFC Alliance which is directly related to Goon's.
CODE's operations involve ganking orca's is part of an act of attrition by GS to keep their rivals at bay. If you are not part of GS you can be assured that your name has been added to a list to be ganked or to be made to purchase a permit to help fund GS's operation.
The Lottery Spammer's are also most likely working for Goon Swarm as well trying to lure pilots into giving them ISK with the false sense of receiving a larger amount in return so the Goon Swarm can account for a pilot's ISK who are in either an NPC Corp or small Corp.
Lottery scammers, and isk doublers are in it for themselves, they do work for anyone. Even scammers who are part if Goonswarm are likely keeping the isk for themselves, not donating it to the Alliance. In addition to that as an Agent of the New Order, I do not exclude Goons from the Code, everyone must follow the Code, Goons included. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
284
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Posted - 2014.08.10 22:58:00 -
[197] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Honor is for those that see the enemy after the battle has long ended as being worthy of friendship just as they were worthy to fight and find their way safely back home. We have no problem being friends with our enemies, you'd see how friendly we are if you were not so blinded by hate. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1064
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Posted - 2014.08.10 23:39:00 -
[198] - Quote
Revan7719 wrote:hey im only a few weeks into the game, so please excuse my lack of knowledge. Whats the point in ganking in high sec< I thought most of the pvp came in low sec or null space. I just dont get the mindset for that. How is 30 to 1 fair? There is no honor in that. The person in the orca probably worked his ass off for that ship and you are destroying it. FW or corp warfare is one thing, but this raiding in high sec like a coward just seems beneath me.
On very rare occasions the observations of a new player are pretty accurate. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
447
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:59:00 -
[199] - Quote
My belief is that CODE/Minerbumping is an elaborate market scam in which gankers are used to kill off industrial ships in order to create higher demand for minerals and ships. In essence a market price control scheme, feeding off the desires of hisec gankers.
Do I have proof of this? No. This is just a theory of mine. However, considering the amount of donations given to James315, the fact that costs for gank ships are kept cheap, prices for industrial ships have steadily climbed since CODE/Minerbumping was started, and that everything in this game relies on ISK; all of this leads me to look at who is getting rich off these actions.
Is the theory testable? Sure. Buy a mining barge/exhumer BPO. Mine up enough materials to be able to make your own, build a few, keep stockpile of mats on hand for future use, and basically save yourself from paying market price. If enough people were to start doing this, then you would deny some profits to the people getting rich off of your ship deaths and most likely see a drop in ma
Again, just a theory. Your tinfoil hattery mileage may vary.
Also, I don't care if anyone is getting rich off this or that hapless idiots are getting blown up. However, players should learn to look at the long game and figure out how to reduce the cost of their loses. |
Xifix Rova
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:22:00 -
[200] - Quote
Good grief I can't tell who is trolling who.
I hope Dryson is actually trolling or else he is taking this WAAAAY too seriously, but then the psuedo-religious rants are way-creepy role-playing gone wrong.
You were given an open universe to do whatever you wish and the best you come up with is an extortion scheme.
And for the people that say "it's a game about blowing up space ships" that is only a part of the game. CCP gave us many more tools than just guns.
Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up.
Also please point to the spot on this Catalyst doll to show us where the bad AFK Venture touched you. |
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
284
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:44:00 -
[201] - Quote
Xifix Rova wrote:Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up. Woohoo! My first Bingo tile of the day! Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Christopher Mabata
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
92
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:05:00 -
[202] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Xifix Rova wrote:Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up. Woohoo! My first Bingo tile of the day!
I got like 4 from all the spew on that last page Lol Is it bad if your friend says "that was a Metaphor" and you say "Meta 4? Get Tech II or faction" ?I love the sound of silent explosions in Space.-á |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
284
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:19:00 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Xifix Rova wrote:Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up. Woohoo! My first Bingo tile of the day! I got like 4 from all the spew on that last page Lol
Oooh, I hadn't counted that yet! Good call! Code always wins (Bingo)!
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Xifix Rova
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:25:00 -
[204] - Quote
I see. Now I understand why you do what you do. |
DrysonBennington
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.08.15 00:30:00 -
[205] - Quote
Keep it up CODE. and I will send a secret weapon your way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJ1UqnHsvU&list=PLAE59C10BBE091D85 |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:50:00 -
[206] - Quote
CODE. Alliance's Epic Fail continues with its tournament appearance.
EPIC Fail.....should be the prize given to CODE.
Even though CODE is an EPIC FAIL Tournament Alliance......They are going to invoke a new type of gank.
The new type of gank is called Rage Ganking where they will attack any ship they come into contact with.
Get ready for Rage Ganking New Eden.
Epic Fail.....now bring me your Llama Kalorned so I can shear it in front of you. |
Tyburn Stannis
Xenon Salvage Inc.
133
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:09:00 -
[207] - Quote
There's posting while drunk, then there's... whatever that was
o/ |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
298
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:16:00 -
[208] - Quote
Tyburn Stannis wrote:There's posting while drunk, then there's... whatever that was o/ Yeah I have no idea what happened to Dryson. Before his posts were amusing but misguided. Now they are just rage filled non-sense. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:17:00 -
[209] - Quote
That was Rage Happiness Posting ftw. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:19:00 -
[210] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Tyburn Stannis wrote:There's posting while drunk, then there's... whatever that was o/ Yeah I have no idea what happened to Dryson. Before his posts were amusing but misguided. Now they are just rage filled non-sense.
I'm so excited Tengu Grib that you can take words from my posts to create a sentence from. That is really ingenious of you.
Now back to seriousness.....be watchful for the CODE. Alliance Rage Ganks to take place within the next week or so. |
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
298
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:28:00 -
[211] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Tyburn Stannis wrote:There's posting while drunk, then there's... whatever that was o/ Yeah I have no idea what happened to Dryson. Before his posts were amusing but misguided. Now they are just rage filled non-sense. I'm so excited Tengu Grib that you can take words from my posts to create a sentence from. That is really ingenious of you. Now back to seriousness.....be watchful for the CODE. Alliance Rage Ganks to take place within the next week or so. As an Agent of the new Order I can say, "what the hell are you talking about?" Alliance Rage Ganks? Sorry Dryson, but you're out to lunch. Maybe you should try getting a spy into Code instead of just making wild speculations. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
11
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Posted - 2014.08.17 20:43:00 -
[212] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Xifix Rova wrote:Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up. Woohoo! My first Bingo tile of the day!
Luckily there will be plenty of code-compliant miners with permits to help make our ships. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
298
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:08:00 -
[213] - Quote
Rabe Raptor wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Xifix Rova wrote:Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up. Woohoo! My first Bingo tile of the day! Luckily there will be plenty of code-compliant miners with permits to help make our ships. I've actually had to decline contracts because people build ships faster than I blow them up. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
14
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:41:00 -
[214] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Xifix Rova wrote:Without mining and industry you wouldn't have any ships to fly or blow up. Woohoo! My first Bingo tile of the day! Luckily there will be plenty of code-compliant miners with permits to help make our ships. I've actually had to decline contracts because people build ships faster than I blow them up.
Well hurry it up! :P Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
Robert Sawyer
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.08.18 10:32:00 -
[215] - Quote
+1 on this post.
I'm a miner by heart, and it's what I do best... When my purse becomes too fat, I blow my ISK on PvP funtage. Now let me get to the point. Although I've never been ganked by these CODE clowns, my friends have. I've also been hearing about this goof that calls himself "The Saviour of Highsec". He thinks he's fighting "greedy carebears" and "filthy miners". We also have to purchase an "indulgence" for 10 million ISK so his thugs can stay off our asses. CODE and the New Order is wrong in every way about their ideas. Our will to mine, refine and produce goods is what drives the economy of this game. And I refuse to believe that everything that the CODE seizes is donated to the so-called "relief efforts". Everybody in the CODE is the stereotypical money-mongering goblin that has an unending appetite for ISKies. I don't know who the hell James 315 thinks he is, but I personally see him as the messiah of gankers disguised as the hero of miners. OP, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we could follow these guys and put the drop on them. Maybe we could gather some guys and teach these bastards a lesson "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
255
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:18:00 -
[216] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:CODE. Alliance's Epic Fail continues with its tournament appearance.
EPIC Fail.....should be the prize given to CODE.
Even though CODE is an EPIC FAIL Tournament Alliance......They are going to invoke a new type of gank.
The new type of gank is called Rage Ganking where they will attack any ship they come into contact with.
Get ready for Rage Ganking New Eden.
Epic Fail.....now bring me your Llama Kalorned so I can shear it in front of you. So let me get this straight: you consider CODE. to be a bunch of dishonorable, immature, selfish, sociopaths, yet when they lose at an an attempt at what you would call "honorable" combat, this is the reaction you give them?
Okay then. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
16
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:02:00 -
[217] - Quote
Robert Sawyer wrote:+1 on this post. I'm a miner by heart, and it's what I do best... When my purse becomes too fat, I blow my ISK on PvP funtage. Now let me get to the point. Although I've never been ganked by these CODE clowns, my friends have. I've also been hearing about this goof that calls himself "The Saviour of Highsec". He thinks he's fighting "greedy carebears" and "filthy miners". We also have to purchase an "indulgence" for 10 million ISK so his thugs can stay off our asses. CODE and the New Order is wrong in every way about their ideas. Our will to mine, refine and produce goods is what drives the economy of this game. And I refuse to believe that everything that the CODE seizes is donated to the so-called "relief efforts". Everybody in the CODE is the stereotypical money-mongering goblin that has an unending appetite for ISKies. I don't know who the hell James 315 thinks he is, but I personally see him as the messiah of gankers disguised as the hero of miners. OP, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we could follow these guys and put the drop on them. Maybe we could gather some guys and teach these bastards a lesson
Thanks for the intel, I'll be sure and add you to our orange (gank on sight) list. ;) seeya around and keep that d-scan up!! Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
18
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:09:00 -
[218] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:For those miner, freighter and Orca's pilots reading this thread the High Protectorate encourages you to take alternate routes away from Uedama and Aufay in order to keep from being ganked by CODE.
Your jumps and delivery times will be lengthened considerably which will cause the price of your services to increase you can be assured that your deliveries will arrive safely.
The cost offset for taking alternate routes is directly aligned with CODE's actions and any actions that are taken against them will help reduce their numbers and return the shipping lanes and expenses incurred to a normal rate.
It's better to pay a little more than have to lose the entire shipment.
You can blame CODE for the inflation.
Yeah and it will put you right through Niarja instead, where goons, brave newbies, and most other gankers operate. Super win advice!! Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade Iron Oxide.
37
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:09:00 -
[219] - Quote
I guess industrialists should just ask for a Red vs Blue escort through High Sec... a Rifter or two should be enough (maybe even overkill!) to make CODE run away... : D |
Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
373
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:17:00 -
[220] - Quote
Why WHY the CODE. why did you drop the tournament ? sangoku never drop tournament !!!
I heard it's a little bit difficult to win when your opponent is not in a retriever or covetor :x RENAME WH systems With the name of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It will be awesome.
GalMIl>>ALL |
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Robert Sawyer
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:08:00 -
[221] - Quote
Rabe Raptor wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:+1 on this post. I'm a miner by heart, and it's what I do best... When my purse becomes too fat, I blow my ISK on PvP funtage. Now let me get to the point. Although I've never been ganked by these CODE clowns, my friends have. I've also been hearing about this goof that calls himself "The Saviour of Highsec". He thinks he's fighting "greedy carebears" and "filthy miners". We also have to purchase an "indulgence" for 10 million ISK so his thugs can stay off our asses. CODE and the New Order is wrong in every way about their ideas. Our will to mine, refine and produce goods is what drives the economy of this game. And I refuse to believe that everything that the CODE seizes is donated to the so-called "relief efforts". Everybody in the CODE is the stereotypical money-mongering goblin that has an unending appetite for ISKies. I don't know who the hell James 315 thinks he is, but I personally see him as the messiah of gankers disguised as the hero of miners. OP, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we could follow these guys and put the drop on them. Maybe we could gather some guys and teach these bastards a lesson Thanks for the intel, I'll be sure and add you to our orange (gank on sight) list. ;) seeya around and keep that d-scan up!!
P*ss off.
Edit: CODE and New Order have been added with Terrible Standing, I will now be able to see you pricks from a mile away. Sure thing, I don't mind. You're actually doing me a favor by giving me killrights.
PS: Good luck getting CONCORD'd. "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:11:00 -
[222] - Quote
Robert Sawyer wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:+1 on this post. I'm a miner by heart, and it's what I do best... When my purse becomes too fat, I blow my ISK on PvP funtage. Now let me get to the point. Although I've never been ganked by these CODE clowns, my friends have. I've also been hearing about this goof that calls himself "The Saviour of Highsec". He thinks he's fighting "greedy carebears" and "filthy miners". We also have to purchase an "indulgence" for 10 million ISK so his thugs can stay off our asses. CODE and the New Order is wrong in every way about their ideas. Our will to mine, refine and produce goods is what drives the economy of this game. And I refuse to believe that everything that the CODE seizes is donated to the so-called "relief efforts". Everybody in the CODE is the stereotypical money-mongering goblin that has an unending appetite for ISKies. I don't know who the hell James 315 thinks he is, but I personally see him as the messiah of gankers disguised as the hero of miners. OP, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we could follow these guys and put the drop on them. Maybe we could gather some guys and teach these bastards a lesson Thanks for the intel, I'll be sure and add you to our orange (gank on sight) list. ;) seeya around and keep that d-scan up!! **** off No need to get snarky and vulgar, geez. You advertise on here that you are a miner and that you dislike Code, what did you think was going to happen? Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Robert Sawyer
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:12:00 -
[223] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:+1 on this post. I'm a miner by heart, and it's what I do best... When my purse becomes too fat, I blow my ISK on PvP funtage. Now let me get to the point. Although I've never been ganked by these CODE clowns, my friends have. I've also been hearing about this goof that calls himself "The Saviour of Highsec". He thinks he's fighting "greedy carebears" and "filthy miners". We also have to purchase an "indulgence" for 10 million ISK so his thugs can stay off our asses. CODE and the New Order is wrong in every way about their ideas. Our will to mine, refine and produce goods is what drives the economy of this game. And I refuse to believe that everything that the CODE seizes is donated to the so-called "relief efforts". Everybody in the CODE is the stereotypical money-mongering goblin that has an unending appetite for ISKies. I don't know who the hell James 315 thinks he is, but I personally see him as the messiah of gankers disguised as the hero of miners. OP, it wouldn't be a bad idea if we could follow these guys and put the drop on them. Maybe we could gather some guys and teach these bastards a lesson Thanks for the intel, I'll be sure and add you to our orange (gank on sight) list. ;) seeya around and keep that d-scan up!! P*ss off No need to get snarky and vulgar, geez. You advertise on here that you are a miner and that you dislike Code, what did you think was going to happen?
Milking killrights, that's what I thought was gonna happen. "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
256
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:16:00 -
[224] - Quote
Robert Sawyer wrote:Milking killrights, that's what I thought was gonna happen. Killrights on -10.0 characters aren't really all that useful considering that anyone can already shoot them on sight anywhere without CONCORD/NPC intervention. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Robert Sawyer
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:22:00 -
[225] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:Robert Sawyer wrote:Milking killrights, that's what I thought was gonna happen. Killrights on -10.0 characters aren't really all that useful considering that anyone can already shoot them on sight anywhere without CONCORD/NPC intervention.
All to the better! Now, where is my locator agent...? "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Robert Sawyer
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
29
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:42:00 -
[226] - Quote
*sigh* As mentioned many times, gank the people with permits using THIS fit: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/57336-Catalyst-700-DPS-Suicide-Gank.html
"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:11:00 -
[227] - Quote
Light Ion's? Really? Eeeeeew Neutrons or go home. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
494
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:16:00 -
[228] - Quote
Ions don't lose much DPS at all and make the fittings a lot easier if you don't have Weapon Upgrades V on your ganking alt or really need to bring a scram + ECCM or something (or you need grid for an Afterburner for some reason). In an ideal world Neutrons are the best choice but sometimes you just gotta gank with what you have. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:21:00 -
[229] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote:Ions don't lose much DPS at all and make the fittings a lot easier if you don't have Weapon Upgrades V on your ganking alt or really need to bring a scram + ECCM or something (or you need grid for an Afterburner for some reason). In an ideal world Neutrons are the best choice but sometimes you just gotta gank with what you have. Maybe I'm just used to running with gank toons that have advanced weapon upgrades to 4 and implants. I've never felt the need to have a web though. ECCM makes sense when you have white knights around. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
494
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:38:00 -
[230] - Quote
I run my gank catalysts with Neutrons, ECCM, and a Sensor Booster. ECCM is for faction police more than other players, the sebo is for podding, and I don't bother with a scram because miners almost never warp out in time and it would mean giving up something else. If I was ganking in a group I would probably mix one in, but I struggle to imagine what you would need a web on a Catalyst for. If you worried about things breaking out of your 2km killzone, bring a Thrasher instead. |
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:56:00 -
[231] - Quote
Voyager Arran wrote:I run my gank catalysts with Neutrons, ECCM, and a Sensor Booster. ECCM is for faction police more than other players, the sebo is for podding, and I don't bother with a scram because miners almost never warp out in time and it would mean giving up something else. If I was ganking in a group I would probably mix one in, but I struggle to imagine what you would need a web on a Catalyst for. If you worried about things breaking out of your 2km killzone, bring a Thrasher instead.
ECM and sensor booster both make total sense, and if a pilot was sacrificing neutrons for those, I wouldn't argue, especially in a group with someone else pointing, or just accepting that if the pilot manages to get back to keyboard they might escape. (which they rarely do) But sacrificing neutrons for a web makes no sense to me. As you said, you're having trouble keeping the target in the 2km killzone, thrashers will be better. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
261
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:00:00 -
[232] - Quote
I used to fly Gank Thoraxes and Taranises solo in losec. Against similar-sized/smaller targets, Ions and Neutrons did fairly similar DPS due to the superior tracking on Ions. But against targets bigger than you, neutrons were definitely worth the pain of fitting them.
Neither had an engagement range worth squat though, which is why, in the face of the current kiting meta, I fly rails now. (Or rather, I will once I get time to....)
EDIT: Re webs: for Catalysts ganking miners/haulers, webs don't really do much since your targets are already so slow. At best, if you're ganking in a group, have one Cat fit a web to absolutely minimize your target's transversal. Against anything else though, webs would be invaluable. As always, know your target and fit accordingly. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:48:00 -
[233] - Quote
ECCM + Sebo fits with Neutrons if you have good skills.
The only source of significant transversal in Catalyst vs Mackinaw is going to come from the Catalyst, probably from mashing approach blindly and bouncing off them at 0 meters. |
Regnag Leppod
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.08.19 21:00:00 -
[234] - Quote
Has it been proven possible to prevent a gank by CODE. in the first place (specifically the gate ganks like Aufay)? Or is this more about getting in on killmails the easy way? |
Ginger Barbarella
2002
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Posted - 2014.08.19 21:59:00 -
[235] - Quote
Kinda irrelevent, since: 1) Not all of the CODErs join the alliance 2) If someone wants you dead, you're dead.
Kudos for the wall of text, tho. :) "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Ginger Barbarella
2002
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:05:00 -
[236] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:There is no such thing as James315 walking around in High Sector as your savior because any such notion conveys an anti-Christ mentality of someone saying that they are James from a religious textbook when in fact they are nothing more than the twisted and rotted flesh of someone from the past.
Your prophet is based on someone from the past who has died.
And with that, the thread failed.
Wow. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Ginger Barbarella
2003
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:11:00 -
[237] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote: Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
I just can't help myself!!
On a side note, I seem to recall CCP saying that baiting CONCORD like you advocate above is against the EULA... can't recall the exact post, but it was in response to ganks during the heyday of Hulkageddon. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:13:00 -
[238] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote: EDIT: Re webs: for Catalysts ganking miners/haulers, webs don't really do much since your targets are already so slow. At best, if you're ganking in a group, have one Cat fit a web to absolutely minimize your target's transversal. Against anything else though, webs would be invaluable. As always, know your target and fit accordingly.
Ok that actually does make sense, I guess if you're trying to kill catalysts with other catalysts being able to prevent transversal. The ions for that particular situation would actually make sense, though I'm not sure having both Ions and webs would stack enough to make both the best in that situation. Then again, I typically do not shoot catalysts, so I'm not sure. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:15:00 -
[239] - Quote
Ginger Barbarella wrote:DrysonBennington wrote: Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
I just can't help myself!! On a side note, I seem to recall CCP saying that baiting CONCORD like you advocate above is against the EULA... can't recall the exact post, but it was in response to ganks during the heyday of Hulkageddon. Wait really? So baiting Concorde into an ice belt is against the EULA? Huh, if so I might have to report a number of ice miners in my area. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
261
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:20:00 -
[240] - Quote
Regnag Leppod wrote:Has it been proven possible to prevent a gank by CODE. in the first place (specifically the gate ganks like Aufay)? Or is this more about getting in on killmails the easy way? I have seen a coordinated CODE. gank on a jump freighter fail (initially) on a gate in Aufay in the presence of about a dozen or so "White Knights". The defenders seemed to be equal parts ECM, DPS, and logi. While the initial gank failed (JF at ~half structure), the bumpers kept the JF out of alignment and on the second attempt 15-ish minutes later, it did go down in spite of the friendly support. (I was there bounty hunting in a rail Catalyst and cavorting with CODE. on voice comms.)
From my understanding of game mechanics, the best defense against a suicide gank in progress of a sufficiently large target (Freighter, Orca, etc.) isn't DPS or EWar, it's remote reps. It counteracts the damage being applied immediately, it benefits from the target's resists instead of being penalized by them, and can be applied sooner because not only are their targets much larger (and easier to lock), friendly logis can hav their target locked and remote reps running before the gankers even land on-grid. This assumes that the gankers even bother in the face of strong logistic support.
Of course, if the ganker is alpha-striking smaller targets, well then, their targets are pretty well hosed. Much love for Arty Thrashers.
Anyone even remotely familiar with the current RR meta has likely figured this out on their own. A handful of AB-fit T1 logi cruisers orbiting their target at near max range and high speed would make it considerably harder to kill while remaining relatively safe themselves (high speed, not grouped together, etc.). I'm amazed that so-called "White Knights" use anything but Logis. For all of their talk, they're just whoring on killmails or collecting bounties. They're not really "White Knights" at all, they're just people who want to shoot at people who can't shoot back in order to profit from it.
Sound familiar?
This is all overlooking the fact that be best overall defense against a suicide gank is not being a target in the first place. Don't autopilot, don't overload your ship, don't be AFK, etc.
I know that this runs contrary to my earlier posts about needing to become the gankers in order to beat them. What can I say, I withheld my realization in the interest of content creation. I'm certainly not the first, nor will I be the last. Sue me.
In order to beat the gankers you just need to stop giving a rat's arse about killmails....
Apologies in advance if I'm offending any of my minerbumpering buds by posting this. This stuff is all just common knowledge applied to the situation at hand, so I am stunned that nobody has posted it sooner. Hopefully, if nothing else, it gives you folks some more interesting ganks.... Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
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Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
39
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:27:00 -
[241] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:DrysonBennington wrote: Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
I just can't help myself!! On a side note, I seem to recall CCP saying that baiting CONCORD like you advocate above is against the EULA... can't recall the exact post, but it was in response to ganks during the heyday of Hulkageddon. Wait really? So baiting Concorde into an ice belt is against the EULA? Huh, if so I might have to report a number of ice miners in my area.
From my understanding yes. CONCORD is meant to be a presence of retribution and prevention, not protection. From what I understand that it is against game mechanics to have a throwaway alt 'attack' causing CONCORD to spawn that can no be pulled away. Hence acting as an NPC police force. Again this is from my understanding of previous posts about this circumstance, but I am no expert regarding this. (Unless CCP will allow me to be one! Lulz) |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.19 22:54:00 -
[242] - Quote
Anal Canal wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:DrysonBennington wrote: Once CONCORD arrives and destroys your ship the aggression countdown begins. Five minutes after CONCORD arrives attack either the Bumping ship or the target with the second alt to draw a fresh group of CONCORD to the scene.
Continue to employ this tactic for as long as the targeted ship remains on auto-pilot. If CODE decides to arrive and do any ganking then CONCORD will already be on the scene and CODE will not be able to gank their prize.
I just can't help myself!! On a side note, I seem to recall CCP saying that baiting CONCORD like you advocate above is against the EULA... can't recall the exact post, but it was in response to ganks during the heyday of Hulkageddon. Wait really? So baiting Concorde into an ice belt is against the EULA? Huh, if so I might have to report a number of ice miners in my area. From my understanding yes. CONCORD is meant to be a presence of retribution and prevention, not protection. From what I understand that it is against game mechanics to have a throwaway alt 'attack' causing CONCORD to spawn that can no be pulled away. Hence acting as an NPC police force. Again this is from my understanding of previous posts about this circumstance, but I am no expert regarding this. (Unless CCP will allow me to be one! Lulz)
Interesting... Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:12:00 -
[243] - Quote
According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE.
So Loyal has quit CODE then? I would expect the rest of CODE to do so likewise. Each CODE member will become part of a new corporation where the fledgling corp or alliance will engage in ganking across a much wider area within the Universe. Why would this tactic work? Because CODE was humiliated in the Tournament, yes but now they have even more opportunity to be taken in by Fan Boy Corporations that like CODE. Once the Fan Boys take in the CODE dissidents I would expect that each CODE dissident would Awox the alliance and take with them those most loyal to CODE's cause and then rejoin into a much larger and more deadly CODE. Alliance. |
Regnag Leppod
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2014.08.20 00:39:00 -
[244] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote: From my understanding of game mechanics, the best defense against a suicide gank in progress of a sufficiently large target (Freighter, Orca, etc.) isn't DPS or EWar, it's remote reps. It counteracts the damage being applied immediately, it benefits from the target's resists instead of being penalized by them, and can be applied sooner because not only are their targets much larger (and easier to lock), friendly logis can hav their target locked and remote reps running before the gankers even land on-grid. This assumes that the gankers even bother in the face of strong logistic support.
Setting aside the issue of getting in on killmails easy, it seems, on the surface, that logi would be the weakest tactic. (Again, "on the surface". I know very little about logi).
DPS: objective is to blow them up before they kill the target. EWAR: keep them from doing any damage at all, or minimizing their damge before Concord pops them. Logi: give the target ship more EHP.
Logi doesn't appear, at first look, like it would be able to counter the amount of incoming dps that the Catalysts put out. They are doing something like 400dps each. A T1 medium remote armor repper does, at base numbers, something like 32hp repaired per second. Even if you've got enough cap to constantly run 3 of those on a cruiser, you're not even negating the dps of just one Catalyst.
This doesn't mean that logi is a bad way to solve the issue, but it does show how the numbers may lead people to believe it's an ineffective method as opposed to EWAR or just raw DPS against the aggressors.
What I'd like to know is what I'm missing here in regards to logistics, as to how it *can* be made effective in this circumstance.
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Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
497
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Posted - 2014.08.20 02:59:00 -
[245] - Quote
Remote Reps are crazy strong. It sounds like you're looking at the base stats of the module without factoring in skills or hull bonuses and then also overlooking the fact that incoming reps are amplified by resistances (ie, repairing 100 shields on a ship with 50% resistances means it takes another 200 damage to kill them). I have missed solo ganks, which tend to operate on pretty thin margins, because of a single unbonused large rep on an attendant Orca that tabbed back in when he heard sirens going off.
That said, ECM is probably the best bet. Trying to shoot the Catalysts to death is the worst option in general; they're all going to die in 20 seconds anyways and you don't actually start doing anything to mitigate the incoming damage until one of them is 100% dead. |
412nv Yaken
The Conference Elite CODE.
146
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:01:00 -
[246] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE.
So Loyal has quit CODE then? I would expect the rest of CODE to do so likewise. Each CODE member will become part of a new corporation where the fledgling corp or alliance will engage in ganking across a much wider area within the Universe. Why would this tactic work? Because CODE was humiliated in the Tournament, yes but now they have even more opportunity to be taken in by Fan Boy Corporations that like CODE. Once the Fan Boys take in the CODE dissidents I would expect that each CODE dissident would Awox the alliance and take with them those most loyal to CODE's cause and then rejoin into a much larger and more deadly CODE. Alliance.
News to me
Perhaps focus on your scissor technique and not propaganda
A True Champion of High Security Space |
loyalanon
The Conference Elite CODE.
452
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:03:00 -
[247] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE.
So Loyal has quit CODE then? I would expect the rest of CODE to do so likewise. Each CODE member will become part of a new corporation where the fledgling corp or alliance will engage in ganking across a much wider area within the Universe. Why would this tactic work? Because CODE was humiliated in the Tournament, yes but now they have even more opportunity to be taken in by Fan Boy Corporations that like CODE. Once the Fan Boys take in the CODE dissidents I would expect that each CODE dissident would Awox the alliance and take with them those most loyal to CODE's cause and then rejoin into a much larger and more deadly CODE. Alliance.
Last I checked im still in Code Alliance and still Ganking.
Not getting my EULA mandated covert ops/pvp capable freighter started making me 2nd guess myself however.
Any chance you can give me some scissor attack techniques so that I can feel better? |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
809
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:04:00 -
[248] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE.
So Loyal has quit CODE then? I would expect the rest of CODE to do so likewise. Each CODE member will become part of a new corporation where the fledgling corp or alliance will engage in ganking across a much wider area within the Universe. Why would this tactic work? Because CODE was humiliated in the Tournament, yes but now they have even more opportunity to be taken in by Fan Boy Corporations that like CODE. Once the Fan Boys take in the CODE dissidents I would expect that each CODE dissident would Awox the alliance and take with them those most loyal to CODE's cause and then rejoin into a much larger and more deadly CODE. Alliance.
Confirming that Loyalanon, myself, and every other member of the CODE. alliance has either quit or is in the process of quitting due to not beable to handle DrysonBennington's sadness about how hard we won in the Alliance Tournment.
Please, tell us more. Scissor me timbers! |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
40
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:06:00 -
[249] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE.
So Loyal has quit CODE then? I would expect the rest of CODE to do so likewise. Each CODE member will become part of a new corporation where the fledgling corp or alliance will engage in ganking across a much wider area within the Universe. Why would this tactic work? Because CODE was humiliated in the Tournament, yes but now they have even more opportunity to be taken in by Fan Boy Corporations that like CODE. Once the Fan Boys take in the CODE dissidents I would expect that each CODE dissident would Awox the alliance and take with them those most loyal to CODE's cause and then rejoin into a much larger and more deadly CODE. Alliance. Confirming that Loyalanon, myself, and every other member of the CODE. alliance has either quit or is in the process of quitting due to not beable to handle DrysonBennington's sadness about how hard we won in the Alliance Tournment. Please, tell us more. Scissor me timbers!
Dryson, can I join your corp since I appear to be without one currently? The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:45:00 -
[250] - Quote
Confirming I have quit Code to awox. Also confirming I will find like minded individuals in the corps and recruit them to form a newer stronger Code. I am sure that people will see the light of Code while I ransom their ships and my neutral logi keeps me virtually invulnerable.
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Dryson is actually just a troll. He is likely an alt of Loyalanon trying to generate forum content. If this is the truth it is working and is awesome. If it is not then Dryson is surely mad, and not the angry kind.
Edit: typing on phone = fail Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
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Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
300
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Posted - 2014.08.20 05:48:00 -
[251] - Quote
Anal Canal wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE.
So Loyal has quit CODE then? I would expect the rest of CODE to do so likewise. Each CODE member will become part of a new corporation where the fledgling corp or alliance will engage in ganking across a much wider area within the Universe. Why would this tactic work? Because CODE was humiliated in the Tournament, yes but now they have even more opportunity to be taken in by Fan Boy Corporations that like CODE. Once the Fan Boys take in the CODE dissidents I would expect that each CODE dissident would Awox the alliance and take with them those most loyal to CODE's cause and then rejoin into a much larger and more deadly CODE. Alliance. Confirming that Loyalanon, myself, and every other member of the CODE. alliance has either quit or is in the process of quitting due to not beable to handle DrysonBennington's sadness about how hard we won in the Alliance Tournment. Please, tell us more. Scissor me timbers! Dryson, can I join your corp since I appear to be without one currently? Me too. I'll fly with you Dryson. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
261
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Posted - 2014.08.20 11:20:00 -
[252] - Quote
Regnag Leppod wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote: From my understanding of game mechanics, the best defense against a suicide gank in progress of a sufficiently large target (Freighter, Orca, etc.) isn't DPS or EWar, it's remote reps. It counteracts the damage being applied immediately, it benefits from the target's resists instead of being penalized by them, and can be applied sooner because not only are their targets much larger (and easier to lock), friendly logis can hav their target locked and remote reps running before the gankers even land on-grid. This assumes that the gankers even bother in the face of strong logistic support.
Setting aside the issue of getting in on killmails easy, it seems, on the surface, that logi would be the weakest tactic. (Again, "on the surface". I know very little about logi). DPS: objective is to blow them up before they kill the target. EWAR: keep them from doing any damage at all, or minimizing their damge before Concord pops them. Logi: give the target ship more EHP. Logi doesn't appear, at first look, like it would be able to counter the amount of incoming dps that the Catalysts put out. They are doing something like 400dps each. A T1 medium remote armor repper does, at base numbers, something like 32hp repaired per second. Even if you've got enough cap to constantly run 3 of those on a cruiser, you're not even negating the dps of just one Catalyst. This doesn't mean that logi is a bad way to solve the issue, but it does show how the numbers may lead people to believe it's an ineffective method as opposed to EWAR or just raw DPS against the aggressors. What I'd like to know is what I'm missing here in regards to logistics, as to how it *can* be made effective in this circumstance. You're overlooking a few things:
1. The target's resists work for the remote repper, and against the incoming DPS. Say a target has 25% resist to an incoming damage type. 100 DPS being done is reduced to 75 while 100 RPS (reps per second) is increased to 125. Each 1% of resist gives a 2% relative advantage to the remote reps.
2. Logi cruisers get bonuses to remote rep amounts. At Cruiser IV, it's a 50% bonus to RPS. I have Caldari Cruiser V, and a large remote shield repper puts out over 100 RPS.
3. The remote reppers don't have to completely overcome the incoming DPS. Really, they don't even have to come close. All they have to do is add enough EHP to the target to throw off the ganker's DPS calculations. The gankers will have, at best, 20 seconds to apply damage before CONCORD kills them. The target doesn't have to live at full health, it just has to live.
Of course, all any of this will do is keep the target alive long enough to be ganked again, and unless the "White Knights" bring enough reps to completely rep the target back to 100%, all they're doing is delaying the inevitable. And, as I've said before, the best counter to suicide ganking will always, 100% be to not be a target. But given current game mechanics, I do really feel that remote repping is the best counter to massed suicide ganks in progress.
Voyager Arran wrote:That said, ECM is probably the best bet. Trying to shoot the Catalysts to death is the worst option in general; they're all going to die in 20 seconds anyways and you don't actually start doing anything to mitigate the incoming damage until one of them is 100% dead.
I agree that ECM would be very effective against a small gank squad because 1-2 ECM ships can just spread all of their jams evenly. Against a JF-sized gang though, you'd need to start calling targets in order to get jams spread effectively, and getting everything picked, locked, and jammed in 20 seconds seems like a stretch. A really well-coordinated group may be able to pull it off, but the same group in logi cruisers would, I think, have a much bigger impact. Plus, there's the fact that ECM is chance based, whereas remote reps are a sure thing. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Robert Sawyer
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
29
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:20:00 -
[253] - Quote
Wow this post escalated quickly... "And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph." |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
261
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Posted - 2014.08.20 12:59:00 -
[254] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:According to scuttlebutt Loyalonon has quit CODE. With tools like evewho, scuttlebutt like this can be dispelled in about 10 seconds. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Regnag Leppod
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:55:00 -
[255] - Quote
Thank you for the info Bronson. Sounds like it might be fun to try at some point in a belt when a small group attacks a barge. |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
37
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:31:00 -
[256] - Quote
I checked snopes.com about loyalanon leaving CODE. but couldn't find anything. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
823
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:27:00 -
[257] - Quote
Anal Canal wrote: From my understanding yes. CONCORD is meant to be a presence of retribution and prevention, not protection. From what I understand that it is against game mechanics to have a throwaway alt 'attack' causing CONCORD to spawn that can no be pulled away. Hence acting as an NPC police force. Again this is from my understanding of previous posts about this circumstance, but I am no expert regarding this. (Unless CCP will allow me to be one! Lulz)
Mostly correct, but from what I understand (I'm searching for the "official" CCP response to this, I know it's around somewhere) - the issue is "recycling" alts in order to cause CONCORD to act as a defensive force. For example, creating an alt, using it to cause a CONCORD spawn to move to a specific location, and then once the security status on this alt grows too low for the player in question to want to use it anymore - biomassing it and creating another, and then repeating the process. This is against the rules. As far as I know, spawning CONCORD to try to use them as a defensive force as long as you are NOT recycling alts for this very purpose is totally fine.
On a related note: Anti-gankers and GRRRRR Code types - please focus all your efforts on this strategy. I promise you there are not many ways to counter it, and that it is very effective in denying us kills :-) |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
823
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Posted - 2014.08.21 10:34:00 -
[258] - Quote
Tengu Grib wrote:
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Dryson is actually just a troll. He is likely an alt of Loyalanon trying to generate forum content. If this is the truth it is working and is awesome. If it is not then Dryson is surely mad, and not the angry kind.
Edit: typing on phone = fail
Without going into very specific details (though they would be funny) - I can tell you that Dryson is actually serious and not simply a New Order troll trying to generate content.
For a fun example: internal communications from "secret" anti-ganking groups pledging their financial / material support on the sole condition that Dryson is never allowed to FC, lead, or in any way be promoted to any type of leadership role.
For a more fun example: Fun loving EVE players who LOVE to PVP against code and enjoy a "GF" with us, and don't get all weird and personal about spaceship pew pew pew literally begging me on voice comms to just "Please, please, figure out a way to recruit Dryson and get him to leave our groups - we are worried he has literally lost his mind and his forum posts sure do not help"
So, yeah, Dryson is that magical combo. Totally serious and totally ineffective with VERY strong opinions and no sense of fun. Never a LOL, never a "GF" in local - just sadness, hurt feelings, rage and clever ideas such as the tech 2 Noctis for "high-sec belt ratting", the mighty "Scissoring Technique", and my personal favorite: the demand that CCP buff freighters right now due to his spaceship lawyer skills :P |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
48
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:11:00 -
[259] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:
I'm becoming more and more convinced that Dryson is actually just a troll. He is likely an alt of Loyalanon trying to generate forum content. If this is the truth it is working and is awesome. If it is not then Dryson is surely mad, and not the angry kind.
Edit: typing on phone = fail
Without going into very specific details (though they would be funny) - I can tell you that Dryson is actually serious and not simply a New Order troll trying to generate content. For a fun example: internal communications from "secret" anti-ganking groups pledging their financial / material support on the sole condition that Dryson is never allowed to FC, lead, or in any way be promoted to any type of leadership role. For a more fun example: Fun loving EVE players who LOVE to PVP against code and enjoy a "GF" with us, and don't get all weird and personal about spaceship pew pew pew literally begging me on voice comms to just "Please, please, figure out a way to recruit Dryson and get him to leave our groups - we are worried he has literally lost his mind and his forum posts sure do not help" So, yeah, Dryson is that magical combo. Totally serious and totally ineffective with VERY strong opinions and no sense of fun. Never a LOL, never a "GF" in local - just sadness, hurt feelings, rage and clever ideas such as the tech 2 Noctis for "high-sec belt ratting", the mighty "Scissoring Technique", and my personal favorite: the demand that CCP buff freighters right now due to his spaceship lawyer skills :P
Dryson is my favorite Eve player. He makes me really happy. Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite CODE.
828
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Posted - 2014.08.21 11:43:00 -
[260] - Quote
Rabe Raptor wrote:
Dryson is my favorite Eve player. He makes me really happy.
My day always gets a little brighter the second I see a new post or reply from him anywhere. I always leave with a smile on my face and that wonderful feeling that only comes from enjoying a good bout of laughter! :)
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Solecist Project
Mew Age Outpaws
7141
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Posted - 2014.08.21 13:20:00 -
[261] - Quote
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:
Dryson is my favorite Eve player. He makes me really happy.
My day always gets a little brighter the second I see a new post or reply from him anywhere. I always leave with a smile on my face and that wonderful feeling that only comes from enjoying a good bout of laughter! :) *edit: Really feeling the lack of new ship types created by him posted in Features and Ideas as of late. I hope Dryson knows that simple to the ISD's shutting down his most recent one all of 3 mins after posting that many of us are still here, wanting more! The first time you asked me to mock him for his scissors technique ... ... I seriously thought you meant something completely different ... ... perfectly fitting to MY context ...........
..... btw I'm not stalking you right now! http://residentoutlaw.tumblr.com - CODE, RvB, the AT, and what DJEntropy said .... :) The Mew Age Calender is in need of models! Plus payment! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4908292#post4908292 |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
57
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Posted - 2014.08.21 19:48:00 -
[262] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Rabe Raptor wrote:
Dryson is my favorite Eve player. He makes me really happy.
My day always gets a little brighter the second I see a new post or reply from him anywhere. I always leave with a smile on my face and that wonderful feeling that only comes from enjoying a good bout of laughter! :) *edit: Really feeling the lack of new ship types created by him posted in Features and Ideas as of late. I hope Dryson knows that simple to the ISD's shutting down his most recent one all of 3 mins after posting that many of us are still here, wanting more! The first time you asked me to mock him for his scissors technique ... ... I seriously thought you meant something completely different ... ... perfectly fitting to MY context ........... ..... btw I'm not stalking you right now!
DJ really? Get a real agent, solecist.
Together we can make Highsec a better place! The Law of Highsec Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, live it! |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:26:00 -
[263] - Quote
So easy to bait to build a list from.
So...easy. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2014.08.21 22:28:00 -
[264] - Quote
Let me guess CODE.'s latest assessment of it's failure in the Tournament can best be summed up by their saying "At least we got into the Tournament's and the rest of you didn't."
Epic failure on all levels....Epic. |
Voyager Arran
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
503
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Posted - 2014.08.22 00:17:00 -
[265] - Quote
I can't tell if you're trying to puppetmaster CODE into ganking with Battleships or if you're actually dumb enough to think that's a good idea.
Congratulations on being successful in that regard I guess? |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
313
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:31:00 -
[266] - Quote
Dryson you clearly don't understand ganking at all if you think battleships are good for it. Do some EFT, battleships would be awful for ganking. And it's not even just about isk. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
286
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:43:00 -
[267] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:You would think that CODE. would marginalize its losses by using battleships in order to hit more than one Orca or Freighter at a time which would create more ISK than using Destroyers and Battle cruiser's.
I wonder how much ISK was lost by CODE before they realized using a few battleships would have saved them more ISK. So you're suggesting that battleships (presumably blaster Megathrons) would be more effective suicide gankers than Catalysts or Brutixes? You are incorrect on many levels sir:
1. Lower scan resolution = longer lock time = less time spent doing DPS. 2. Longer align time = more difficulty in positioning the gank fleet without getting caught by Faction Police NPCs. 3. The extra durability afforded by a battleship hull is wasted when you've got a mountain of CONCORD EWar piled on you. Sure, you live longer, but you aren't applying damage for much of it. 4. Cost. 2-3 gank Catalysts can put out the same DPS as a gank Megathron for a fraction of the cost. 5. Training. A rookie can hop into a gank Catalyst and fit it well in a month or two. Doing the same for a battleship would take considerably longer. 6. Efficiency. I doubt that CODE. gives a rat's behind about killboard efficiency, but they'd probably prefer to not leave more valuable loot/salvage on the field than absolutely necessary.
How exactly are battleships a better choice for CODE.? And how would using them have saved them more ISK? I'm really at a loss here. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
458
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:31:00 -
[268] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:You would think that CODE. would marginalize its losses by using battleships in order to hit more than one Orca or Freighter at a time which would create more ISK than using Destroyers and Battle cruiser's.
I wonder how much ISK was lost by CODE before they realized using a few battleships would have saved them more ISK. So you're suggesting that battleships (presumably blaster Megathrons) would be more effective suicide gankers than Catalysts or Brutixes? You are incorrect on many levels sir: 1. Lower scan resolution = longer lock time = less time spent doing DPS. 2. Longer align time = more difficulty in positioning the gank fleet without getting caught by Faction Police NPCs. 3. The extra durability afforded by a battleship hull is wasted when you've got a mountain of CONCORD EWar piled on you. Sure, you live longer, but you aren't applying damage for much of it. 4. Cost. 2-3 gank Catalysts can put out the same DPS as a gank Megathron for a fraction of the cost. 5. Training. A rookie can hop into a gank Catalyst and fit it well in a month or two. Doing the same for a battleship would take considerably longer. 6. Efficiency. I doubt that CODE. gives a rat's behind about killboard efficiency, but they'd probably prefer to not leave more valuable loot/salvage on the field than absolutely necessary. How exactly are battleships a better choice for CODE.? And how would using them have saved them more ISK? I'm really at a loss here.
Well, if you still got paid your insurance from Concord kills; then his statement would be a good one. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2014.08.24 15:59:00 -
[269] - Quote
Estella Osoka wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:You would think that CODE. would marginalize its losses by using battleships in order to hit more than one Orca or Freighter at a time which would create more ISK than using Destroyers and Battle cruiser's.
I wonder how much ISK was lost by CODE before they realized using a few battleships would have saved them more ISK. So you're suggesting that battleships (presumably blaster Megathrons) would be more effective suicide gankers than Catalysts or Brutixes? You are incorrect on many levels sir: 1. Lower scan resolution = longer lock time = less time spent doing DPS. 2. Longer align time = more difficulty in positioning the gank fleet without getting caught by Faction Police NPCs. 3. The extra durability afforded by a battleship hull is wasted when you've got a mountain of CONCORD EWar piled on you. Sure, you live longer, but you aren't applying damage for much of it. 4. Cost. 2-3 gank Catalysts can put out the same DPS as a gank Megathron for a fraction of the cost. 5. Training. A rookie can hop into a gank Catalyst and fit it well in a month or two. Doing the same for a battleship would take considerably longer. 6. Efficiency. I doubt that CODE. gives a rat's behind about killboard efficiency, but they'd probably prefer to not leave more valuable loot/salvage on the field than absolutely necessary. How exactly are battleships a better choice for CODE.? And how would using them have saved them more ISK? I'm really at a loss here. Well, if you still got paid your insurance from Concord kills; then his statement would be a good one.
Oh I'm certain if you sit down and go through the ship modules you can find a fit that will work. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2014.08.24 16:09:00 -
[270] - Quote
Mining Tactic
If your looking to increase your mining output and reduce your station transfer time try using a Mobile Tractor Beam Depot. Deploy the MTBD and then jettison your ore when your ore hold is full. The MTBD will tractor and store the ore for pick up later on.
The MTU will not tractor other miners jet cans but will tractor in all abandoned wrecks.
Using an MTU might also keep CODE. from attacking your barge or orca directly. |
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
293
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Posted - 2014.08.25 14:17:00 -
[271] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:Oh I'm certain if you sit down and go through the ship modules you can find a fit that will work. I have. Unless you're target is appropriate for smartbombing (large, compact group of small ships), I have yet to find a battleship fit that would be worthwhile for suicide ganks. In terms of non AoE ganking, smaller hulls are just more cost-effective.
Although I doubt that this is what you intended, finding some way to land a smartbombing BS at a CODE. freighter-ganking "perch" would make for an awesome set of killmails. 2 cycles from a disco Megathron should kill any Catalysts in range, and given the cycle times involved, I'd wager only about 50% of pilots would react fact enough after the first burst to warp off (assuming they didn't stay and try to fight). You'd need a spy in-fleet, or a really good CovOps alt, but I imagine it could be done. Of course, odds are that one of the CODE. pilots isn't -5.0 or less, so you'd likely get CONCORDed in the process, but I think it'd be worth it.
Just sayin'.... Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
319
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:27:00 -
[272] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Oh I'm certain if you sit down and go through the ship modules you can find a fit that will work. I have. Unless you're target is appropriate for smartbombing (large, compact group of small ships), I have yet to find a battleship fit that would be worthwhile for suicide ganks. In terms of non AoE ganking, smaller hulls are just more cost-effective. Although I doubt that this is what you intended, finding some way to land a smartbombing BS at a CODE. freighter-ganking "perch" would make for an awesome set of killmails. 2 cycles from a disco Megathron should kill any Catalysts in range, and given the cycle times involved, I'd wager only about 50% of pilots would react fact enough after the first burst to warp off (assuming they didn't stay and try to fight). You'd need a spy in-fleet, or a really good CovOps alt, but I imagine it could be done. Of course, odds are that one of the CODE. pilots isn't -5.0 or less, so you'd likely get CONCORDed in the process, but I think it'd be worth it. Just sayin'....
Oh man I would laugh so hard if someone actually pulled that off. You're right, it would be hard, but it would be awesome.
Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
461
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:38:00 -
[273] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Oh I'm certain if you sit down and go through the ship modules you can find a fit that will work. I have. Unless you're target is appropriate for smartbombing (large, compact group of small ships), I have yet to find a battleship fit that would be worthwhile for suicide ganks. In terms of non AoE ganking, smaller hulls are just more cost-effective. Although I doubt that this is what you intended, finding some way to land a smartbombing BS at a CODE. freighter-ganking "perch" would make for an awesome set of killmails. 2 cycles from a disco Megathron should kill any Catalysts in range, and given the cycle times involved, I'd wager only about 50% of pilots would react fact enough after the first burst to warp off (assuming they didn't stay and try to fight). You'd need a spy in-fleet, or a really good CovOps alt, but I imagine it could be done. Of course, odds are that one of the CODE. pilots isn't -5.0 or less, so you'd likely get CONCORDed in the process, but I think it'd be worth it. Just sayin'....
Nah. Cuz if the Cat pilots are smart they will lock him and fire. Therefore ensuring they are on the KM for the Megathron. |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
58
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:48:00 -
[274] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Oh I'm certain if you sit down and go through the ship modules you can find a fit that will work. I have. Unless you're target is appropriate for smartbombing (large, compact group of small ships), I have yet to find a battleship fit that would be worthwhile for suicide ganks. In terms of non AoE ganking, smaller hulls are just more cost-effective. Although I doubt that this is what you intended, finding some way to land a smartbombing BS at a CODE. freighter-ganking "perch" would make for an awesome set of killmails. 2 cycles from a disco Megathron should kill any Catalysts in range, and given the cycle times involved, I'd wager only about 50% of pilots would react fact enough after the first burst to warp off (assuming they didn't stay and try to fight). You'd need a spy in-fleet, or a really good CovOps alt, but I imagine it could be done. Of course, odds are that one of the CODE. pilots isn't -5.0 or less, so you'd likely get CONCORDed in the process, but I think it'd be worth it. Just sayin'....
You also left out the part of hitting the target you were trying to protect... The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
321
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:53:00 -
[275] - Quote
Anal Canal wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:Oh I'm certain if you sit down and go through the ship modules you can find a fit that will work. I have. Unless you're target is appropriate for smartbombing (large, compact group of small ships), I have yet to find a battleship fit that would be worthwhile for suicide ganks. In terms of non AoE ganking, smaller hulls are just more cost-effective. Although I doubt that this is what you intended, finding some way to land a smartbombing BS at a CODE. freighter-ganking "perch" would make for an awesome set of killmails. 2 cycles from a disco Megathron should kill any Catalysts in range, and given the cycle times involved, I'd wager only about 50% of pilots would react fact enough after the first burst to warp off (assuming they didn't stay and try to fight). You'd need a spy in-fleet, or a really good CovOps alt, but I imagine it could be done. Of course, odds are that one of the CODE. pilots isn't -5.0 or less, so you'd likely get CONCORDed in the process, but I think it'd be worth it. Just sayin'.... You also left out the part of hitting the target you were trying to protect... Who said anything about trying to protect? Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
297
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:00:00 -
[276] - Quote
Anal Canal wrote:You also left out the part of hitting the target you were trying to protect... In case you haven't figured it out yet, my primary goal is interesting gameplay, not protecting haulers and miners in hisec.
Also, notice I made mention of "the perch". When running organized fleet ganks, CODE. will have all of their ships warp to some point that is on-grid to the target, but 200+km away, before warping to the target. This is called "the perch". If you can hit them there, you are only a danger to them (and yourself).
Tengu Grib wrote:Who said anything about trying to protect? See? This one gets me. ;^) Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2014.08.25 22:10:00 -
[277] - Quote
I guess it is always up to the Anti-Ganker to make certain that the Ganker has new methods to attack by...how much more epic fail do you have to be to look up to the Anti-Ganker for your tactics?
EPIC.
1.Basically you fit a Micro Jump Drive and three Warp Accelerators to your Battleship. 2.Have a super faster interceptor burn out to 130 km away from the target. 3.Warp your BS fleet to the interceptor and then align to the closest ship that is near the target. 4.12 seconds later you are on target and ready to attack.
EPIC....so EPIC.
But don't tell anyone that an Anti-Ganker had to tell you this idea. |
Nanny State
The Conference Elite CODE.
10
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Posted - 2014.08.25 22:23:00 -
[278] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:I guess it is always up to the Anti-Ganker to make certain that the Ganker has new methods to attack by...how much more epic fail do you have to be to look up to the Anti-Ganker for your tactics?
EPIC.
1.Basically you fit a Micro Jump Drive and three Warp Accelerators to your Battleship. 2.Have a super faster interceptor burn out to 130 km away from the target. 3.Warp your BS fleet to the interceptor and then align to the closest ship that is near the target. 4.12 seconds later you are on target and ready to attack.
EPIC....so EPIC.
But don't tell anyone that an Anti-Ganker had to tell you this idea.
how about we keep ganking with catalysts and ignore your terrible ideas? |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun Fun
326
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Posted - 2014.08.25 22:37:00 -
[279] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:I guess it is always up to the Anti-Ganker to make certain that the Ganker has new methods to attack by...how much more epic fail do you have to be to look up to the Anti-Ganker for your tactics?
EPIC.
1.Basically you fit a Micro Jump Drive and three Warp Accelerators to your Battleship. 2.Have a super faster interceptor burn out to 130 km away from the target. 3.Warp your BS fleet to the interceptor and then align to the closest ship that is near the target. 4.12 seconds later you are on target and ready to attack.
EPIC....so EPIC.
But don't tell anyone that an Anti-Ganker had to tell you this idea.
That's a terrible idea. I think we'll pass. Keep trying though, maybe one day you'll accidentally come up with something worthwhile. Tengu Grib > I agree. The distinct lack of quality spaceships makes RL the worst space sim ever. SolidX > i'm an alt IRL Guilty conscience? Buy a mining permit today. www.minerbumping.com |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate
463
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Posted - 2014.08.26 21:37:00 -
[280] - Quote
12 seconds = dead ship |
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Bronson Hughes
Prophets of Fear
400
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:04:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:I guess it is always up to the Anti-Ganker to make certain that the Ganker has new methods to attack by...how much more epic fail do you have to be to look up to the Anti-Ganker for your tactics?
EPIC.
1.Basically you fit a Micro Jump Drive and three Warp Accelerators to your Battleship. 2.Have a super faster interceptor burn out to 130 km away from the target. 3.Warp your BS fleet to the interceptor and then align to the closest ship that is near the target. 4.12 seconds later you are on target and ready to attack.
EPIC....so EPIC.
But don't tell anyone that an Anti-Ganker had to tell you this idea.
What you have presented is basically what CODE already does, except without wasting expensive battleship hulls and relying on MJDs. They rally at a point 150km+ from their target so instead of having to use a MJD, they can just warp to their target directly.
And before you go thinking that using battleships is a good idea for suicide ganks, let me remind you, again, why it isn't:
Bronson Hughes wrote: 1. Lower scan resolution = longer lock time = less time spent doing DPS. 2. Longer align time = more difficulty in positioning the gank fleet without getting caught by Faction Police NPCs. 3. The extra durability afforded by a battleship hull is wasted when you've got a mountain of CONCORD EWar piled on you. Sure, you live longer, but you aren't applying damage for much of it. 4. Cost. 2-3 gank Catalysts can put out the same DPS as a gank Megathron for a fraction of the cost. 5. Training. A rookie can hop into a gank Catalyst and fit it well in a month or two. Doing the same for a battleship would take considerably longer. 6. Efficiency. I doubt that CODE. gives a rat's behind about killboard efficiency, but they'd probably prefer to not leave more valuable loot/salvage on the field than absolutely necessary.
How exactly are battleships a better choice for CODE.? And how would using them have saved them more ISK? I'm really at a loss here.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
176
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Posted - 2014.09.11 23:33:00 -
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According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....
...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.
The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."
"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window." |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
392
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Posted - 2014.09.12 00:22:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....
...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.
The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."
"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."
Still here and still enforcing the Code. Cool story though Dryson. Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |
Luwc
Brodozers Inc.
219
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Posted - 2014.09.12 07:02:00 -
[284] - Quote
lol http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif |
Bronson Hughes
Prophets of Fear
400
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:26:00 -
[285] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned.... Unless you or a member of your High Protectorate work for CCP, you shouldn't be taking any credit for an player bans. Players get banned because of what they do, not because of what others do. The credit for the ban lies entirely with them.
Now, of course, if you somehow enticed them into performing some sort of bannable offense and reported that to CCP, that would be something you could take credit for. Of course, that is quite possibly a bannable offense in and of itself, so you may want to be careful what you take credit for.... CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2014.09.13 21:58:00 -
[286] - Quote
I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?
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DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2014.09.13 22:01:00 -
[287] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned.... Unless you or a member of your High Protectorate work for CCP, you shouldn't be taking any credit for an player bans. Players get banned because of what they do, not because of what others do. The credit for the ban lies entirely with them. Now, of course, if you somehow enticed them into performing some sort of bannable offense and reported that to CCP, that would be something you could take credit for. Of course, that is quite possibly a bannable offense in and of itself, so you may want to be careful what you take credit for....
You are reading into something that you want to believe to make your reality more creditable. Not once did I mention taking credit for the members of CODE. being banned because if I would have taken credit then that would mean that I would have purposely incited those who were effected by CODE. into the situation with CODE. where CODE. was banned because of said actions towards those in question. Of which I would never want to put someone through a situation where they would have to talk to a CODE. Alliance member ever.
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Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2014.09.15 03:13:00 -
[288] - Quote
I'm not sure if this is the best thread or the worst thread. Either way, subscribed.
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Steppa Musana
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2014.09.15 03:14:00 -
[289] - Quote
I'm not sure if this is the best thread or the worst thread. Either way, subscribed.
DrysonBennington wrote:Mining Tactic
If your looking to increase your mining output and reduce your station transfer time try using a Mobile Tractor Beam Depot. Deploy the MTBD and then jettison your ore when your ore hold is full. The MTBD will tractor and store the ore for pick up later on.
The MTU will not tractor other miners jet cans but will tractor in all abandoned wrecks.
Using an MTU might also keep CODE. from attacking your barge or orca directly. Dear miners, Don't do this.
Sincerely, Logic |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
398
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Posted - 2014.09.15 04:25:00 -
[290] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?
Um. Sure. Why not. You heard it here first, if you are having computer difficulties it isn't cyber criminals, it's Code. Doesn't matter if you play Eve or not. Keep it coming Dryson, your wild theories make for entertaining reading. Occasionally. Someone trying to read this whole thread to catch up might suffer a brain aneurism though. Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |
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Bronson Hughes
Prophets of Fear
419
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Posted - 2014.09.15 11:26:00 -
[291] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:You are reading into something that you want to believe to make your reality more creditable. Not once did I mention taking credit for the members of CODE. being banned because if I would have taken credit then that would mean that I would have purposely incited those who were effected by CODE. into the situation with CODE. where CODE. was banned because of said actions towards those in question. Of which I would never want to put someone through a situation where they would have to talk to a CODE. Alliance member ever.
Given the facts that I don't go around proposing tactics that are verifiably unsound from a game mechanics standpoint, don't pass judgement on people I don't know, and don't level completely outlandish personal attacks against other players (or anyone really), I'd say that my grasp on reality is pretty solid. Can you say the same?
DrysonBennington wrote:According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....
...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.
The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."
"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window." I thought my read of your little piece of fiction (which, incidentally, I thought was rather well composed) was fairly accurate. High Protectorate Rangers (of which your bio clearly states you are the leader of) making sure the dead stay dead? Either you're claiming credit for the dead (which anyone familiar with the situation can surmise are CODE. members), or you're announcing that High Protectorate members are fond of spending time around corpses that other people have killed. (EDIT: Not that this is a bad thing. To each their own.)
I won't even consider the possibility that you're actually threatening to kill players and "hang 'em high" because that would make you a sociopathic bully, and we all know that only CODE. members are that, right? CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite CODE.
138
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Posted - 2014.09.15 12:19:00 -
[292] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?
Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents. Together we can make Highsec a better place! www.lawofhighsec.com
Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, memorize it,-á live it, breathe it! |
Bronson Hughes
Prophets of Fear
419
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Posted - 2014.09.15 13:11:00 -
[293] - Quote
Rabe Raptor wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?
Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents. Wait, so by the transitive property of tinfoilhattery, if CODE. are undercover FBI agents and they are all Goon alts...Goons are all FBI agents?
No wonder everyone hates them.... CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
HAN.del.SOLO
5
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:40:00 -
[294] - Quote
Oh, Dryson is still working on his insane plans of fighting CODE. Might as well recruit a lot of miners, Orca pilots, freighter pilots, blingy mission runners and wardec CODE then hunt the cats - with same efficiency.
Dryson, I've already told you and will tell it again GÇö you barely can help those who don't want to help themselves. Or, if you like it more, "God helps those who help themselves". Take your pick. CODE may be a bunch of bad guys, but you know? They are organized and determined, things that their average victim won't have in any observable future. There are a lot of simply rules written with digital blood about being relatively safe. There is no point in trying to invent anything new, it just will be another instruction without enforcement i.e. dead and useless instruction. As long as gank Cat will stay at 13 mil price tag And vexor on 24, there WILL BE casualties. And calling people under your flag? Sometimes ignorance is a lifesaver, most of them will end up being suicide gankers just because of being sick from stupidity of their wards.
In the meantime, you probably should get to know Gevlon Goblin. He is the man with noble. big goal too. Same as you, pretty impossible to achieve and using strange ways to do it, but hey, the journey is the reward, ya? |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
435
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:55:00 -
[295] - Quote
DrysonBennington wrote:According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....
...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.
The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."
"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."
It truly was a ballet of death The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:55:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....
...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.
The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."
"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."
It truly was a ballet of death The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
435
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:57:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?
Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents.
Silence! You are going to ruin my undercover operation! You'll blow this new identity I have. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Anal Canal
The Conference Elite CODE.
444
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Posted - 2014.09.22 14:57:00 -
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Rabe Raptor wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?
Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents.
Silence! You are going to ruin my undercover operation! You'll blow this new identity I have. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
7
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Posted - 2014.09.23 01:56:00 -
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Dryson threads are priceless. Tyyler DURden says "use soap" |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.23 09:44:00 -
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My serious reply to OP. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
96
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:42:00 -
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While I sympathize with OP's objectives, I don't think getting on CONCORD killmails is useful.
The best response to CODE is -
1: Ignore them in game when they gank. They do it for tears, and if there are no tears they get bored and go home.
2: Isolate any troubling tactics such as bumping, and the lack of consequences for -10 sec status. Raise these on the forums and militate for positive change.
3: Call out and report any inappropriate behavior, especially EULA violations. While the rancid comments come from many gankers, the CODE folks seem particularly focused on baiting and angering people.
4: Always remain calm and remember that it's just a computer game. Don't get riled up by CODE gankers, and just focus on getting CCP to further improve the game. |
Bronson Hughes
Caldari Provisions
445
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:16:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:While I sympathize with OP's objectives, I don't think getting on CONCORD killmails is useful.
The best response to CODE is -
1: Ignore them in game when they gank. They do it for tears, and if there are no tears they get bored and go home.
2: Isolate any troubling tactics such as bumping, and the lack of consequences for -10 sec status. Raise these on the forums and militate for positive change.
3: Call out and report any inappropriate behavior, especially EULA violations. While the rancid comments come from many gankers, the CODE folks seem particularly focused on baiting and angering people.
4: Always remain calm and remember that it's just a computer game. Don't get riled up by CODE gankers, and just focus on getting CCP to further improve the game. #1 and #4 are spot on. EvE is a game and some people seem to take it way too seriously.
#2 is somewhat pointless as CCP has already stated on numerous occasions that bumping and operating in hisec with -10 sec status is within desired game mechanics. But, hey, the forums are here for a reason, make your voice heard.
#3 is a tossup. Obviously report EULA violations, but in my experience the anti-gankers tend to have far more rancid comments than CODE. agents ever do. Heck, I've been deemed an enemy of the anti-ganking movement just for trying to help them by pointing out where their tactics were lacking. CODE. on the other hand has been very welcoming of me (even though I'm not a ganker), and everyone else who's interested/curious in what they do. Go figure. CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking. Reading Comprehension: a skill so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I want to create content, not become content. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
181
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Posted - 2014.09.25 00:26:00 -
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If you come across bumping simply bump the bumper ship so it can't bump the target. |
DrysonBennington
Aliastra Gallente Federation
190
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Posted - 2014.09.25 00:26:21 -
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If you come across bumping simply bump the bumper ship so it can't bump the target. |
Really Hot Guy
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:59:00 -
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But what if someone bumps the bumper of the bumper? Surely you need a contingency, whereby someone is available to provide bumps for the bumper of the bumper's bumper?
Hit me up in-game. I have several Machs and an infantile desire to pad my killboard by whoring on Catalysts that are dying anyway. Makes me look 1337.
/yoloswag |
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
HAN.del.SOLO
6
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:55:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:If you come across bumping simply bump the bumper ship so it can't bump the target. Dang it, Dryson, you could at least add a staber fit with oversized prop. |
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
HAN.del.SOLO
6
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:55:38 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:If you come across bumping simply bump the bumper ship so it can't bump the target. Dang it, Dryson, you could at least add a staber fit with oversized prop. |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times
427
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:19:00 -
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:If you come across bumping simply bump the bumper ship so it can't bump the target. Dang it, Dryson, you could at least add a staber fit with oversized prop. Knowing Dryson it would be more likely a "Optimized Bumping Orca." or something equally hilarious. Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships. Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be |
Tengu Grib
Happy Fun times Spaceships in Space
597
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:19:32 -
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge wrote:DrysonBennington wrote:If you come across bumping simply bump the bumper ship so it can't bump the target. Dang it, Dryson, you could at least add a staber fit with oversized prop. Knowing Dryson it would be more likely a "Optimized Bumping Orca." or something equally hilarious.
Tengu Grib> I read that as "Suddenly Noobships" and it made me want to hot drop someone with noobships.
Buhhdust Princess> You have set us a challenge..We will try and do it!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEeBnYi5bG0&feature=youtu.be
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Renfro Anzomi
RiverBird Industrial
0
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Praise the almighty and infinitely wise savior of high sec, James315. We are thankful for the interesting content created as a result of your foresight, and we applaud your efforts to relieve the boredom from the mind numbing drudgery laid before the pathway of the care-bear.
We give thanks for all of those who participated in this discussion thread, and acknowledge that the ganker, the anti-ganker, and the ant-anti-ganker all play a part of this benevolent drama which thou hast bestowed upon us.
May the 16 pages of this discussion stand as testimony to the insight of James315, and to the selfless efforts of those who support the CODE. |
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