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Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
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Posted - 2014.06.04 20:34:00 -
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all shares are bought.
CaptainHellfire-
banks do give out a smaller percent than I do yes, but they are also 10,000x bigger than what I am currently.
I have an idea and im going to run with it, only time will tell if I am successful at it or if im just making the same money I could of made on my own. either way we all just playing a portion of the game that we find fun!
cheers mate! |

CaptainHellfire
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.04 20:43:00 -
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Keanu Revis wrote:all shares are bought.
CaptainHellfire-
banks do give out a smaller percent than I do yes, but they are also 10,000x bigger than what I am currently.
I have an idea and im going to run with it, only time will tell if I am successful at it or if im just making the same money I could of made on my own. either way we all just playing a portion of the game that we find fun!
cheers mate!
Well the part with having fun is a fair argument i guess. In this case all the best with your business |

Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2014.06.04 21:51:00 -
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Keanu Revis wrote:example... once shares hit 2 mill in value, I pay out anything over 1 mill, so you get 1 mill in return per share, thus making all shares back at 1 mill again. but at least you would see ISK without having to sell?
to answer your second question, all the money from the shareholders, including me, is in the corp wallet, I will use the corp wallet for investing into the market.
the value will come from the total value in the corp / number of shares owned.
The idea of paying out isk once shares reach a specific value, and bumping them back down to 1mil, is a great idea. hi5 on that one!
Lets assume you experience a 0 profit period. If someone cashes out their shares, the value in the corporate wallet will have decreased. How can you justify using share purchases to define share prices, while maintaining that shares will never decrease in value?
On another note, how will you handle cash outs? Will they be whenever, every 2 weeks based on your reports, or will current share prices be good for one month?
This is a good idea, but I really think you should try to define this whole thing as heavily in detail as possible before moving forward. There are too many unknowns for me to invest at this time. I look forward to a much more precise definition of your operations and business plan in the future, to help me decide if I want to invest in you.
Consider creating a website listing every possible scenario and answering all FAQ's. Or, by editing your OP with the above stated information. TAUTX Bank: 12.5% of profits paid to investors monthly. More info: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=322582&find=unread |

Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:17:00 -
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Koniforous wrote:Keanu Revis wrote:example... once shares hit 2 mill in value, I pay out anything over 1 mill, so you get 1 mill in return per share, thus making all shares back at 1 mill again. but at least you would see ISK without having to sell?
to answer your second question, all the money from the shareholders, including me, is in the corp wallet, I will use the corp wallet for investing into the market.
the value will come from the total value in the corp / number of shares owned. The idea of paying out isk once shares reach a specific value, and bumping them back down to 1mil, is a great idea. hi5 on that one! Lets assume you experience a 0 profit period. If someone cashes out their shares, the value in the corporate wallet will have decreased. How can you justify using share purchases to define share prices, while maintaining that shares will never decrease in value? On another note, how will you handle cash outs? Will they be whenever, every 2 weeks based on your reports, or will current share prices be good for one month? This is a good idea, but I really think you should try to define this whole thing as heavily in detail as possible before moving forward. There are too many unknowns for me to invest at this time. I look forward to a much more precise definition of your operations and business plan in the future, to help me decide if I want to invest in you. Consider creating a website listing every possible scenario and answering all FAQ's. Or, by editing your OP with the above stated information.
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Koniforous
Tauren Transit
82
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Posted - 2014.06.04 22:37:00 -
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.....I think you're missing something. TAUTX Bank: 12.5% of profits paid to investors monthly. More info: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=322582&find=unread |

Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
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Posted - 2014.06.04 23:21:00 -
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I typed a message but when I hit submit it deleted it and just reposted as a quote, weird...
but yes, building a website is a good idea, ill incorporate mysql and php to bring updated share values etc so potential investors can see numbers.
a disclaimer or a how it works page would be good as well, thanks for the idea. Probably is more stuff I can include on the website |

Koniforous
Tauren Transit
82
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:27:00 -
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Keanu Revis wrote:I typed a message but when I hit submit it deleted it and just reposted as a quote, weird...
but yes, building a website is a good idea, ill incorporate mysql and php to bring updated share values etc so potential investors can see numbers.
a disclaimer or a how it works page would be good as well, thanks for the idea. Probably is more stuff I can include on the website
Well, this answers none of my questions. I guess I'll have to wait for the webpage. Since your full api key no longer works, I am forced to withdraw my interest. Good luck with your business. TAUTX Bank: 12.5% of profits paid to investors monthly. More info: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=322582&find=unread |

Scion Lex
Tungsten Carbonide Asset Management
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Posted - 2014.06.05 00:33:00 -
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lol |

Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:12:00 -
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Koniforous wrote:Keanu Revis wrote:example... once shares hit 2 mill in value, I pay out anything over 1 mill, so you get 1 mill in return per share, thus making all shares back at 1 mill again. but at least you would see ISK without having to sell?
to answer your second question, all the money from the shareholders, including me, is in the corp wallet, I will use the corp wallet for investing into the market.
the value will come from the total value in the corp / number of shares owned. The idea of paying out isk once shares reach a specific value, and bumping them back down to 1mil, is a great idea. hi5 on that one! Lets assume you experience a 0 profit period. If someone cashes out their shares, the value in the corporate wallet will have decreased. How can you justify using share purchases to define share prices, while maintaining that shares will never decrease in value? On another note, how will you handle cash outs? Will they be whenever, every 2 weeks based on your reports, or will current share prices be good for one month? This is a good idea, but I really think you should try to define this whole thing as heavily in detail as possible before moving forward. There are too many unknowns for me to invest at this time. I look forward to a much more precise definition of your operations and business plan in the future, to help me decide if I want to invest in you. Consider creating a website listing every possible scenario and answering all FAQ's. Or, by editing your OP with the above stated information.
sorry, had RL stuff to do, but to answer you questions, even if your still not interested
right now I decided against paying out after shares hit a certain amount per share. as I think it will be best to wait till my corp is big enough in value to establish something like this.
for your first question. if someone cashes out and sells their shares back to me, causing the corp wallet to decrease. The other investors shares don't decrease as well cause if you divide the remaining shares by the shares still owned, the value is still the same.
example. 1,000 shares at 1 mill, corp value 1 bill. if said investor cashes out 300 shares for 300 mill, that leaves 700 mill in corp with 700 shares. so each share still owned is still worth 1 mill.
lets say 3 days later an investor wants to buy those 300 shares and the corp is worth 1.05 bill with 700 shares, the new investor would have to pay 1.5 mill per share to own those shares.
question 2, cash outs will be handled like so.... if I have the money in corp wallet to pay out right away this is how it works corp wallet + escrow + 90% ISK in sale orders / shares owned
now your going to say 90% of sale orders sounds like your getting jipped. But you have to take into consideration that sale order total is with margin included, and I can't guarantee that ill make max margin potential so by taking 10% it gives me wiggle room to sell and still allows me to make shareholders profit, I can explain in more detail but I just wanted you to get the idea.
now if I don't have the ISK in corp wallet, the share holder will have to wait till I can sell off orders to come up with the cash ( could take a day or so ) But the value of the pay out isn't determined by the time he said he wanted to cash out, its determined after I have enough money in corp wallet to pay the cash out. at that exact point, ill do the formula corp wallet + escrow + 90% sell orders and then the money will be sent.
so all in all, the pay out value is determined minutes before the money is sent, and is not off of a weekly updated price. makes it fair for everyone.
hopefully I answered you questions, if you would like to discuss this further, I would be more than happy to email you in regards to any further questions that you might have? |

Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:19:00 -
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Koniforous wrote:Keanu Revis wrote:I typed a message but when I hit submit it deleted it and just reposted as a quote, weird...
but yes, building a website is a good idea, ill incorporate mysql and php to bring updated share values etc so potential investors can see numbers.
a disclaimer or a how it works page would be good as well, thanks for the idea. Probably is more stuff I can include on the website Well, this answers none of my questions. I guess I'll have to wait for the webpage. Since your full api key no longer works, I am forced to withdraw my interest. Good luck with your business.
sorry for the inconvenience but the full api key was deleted, since I sold off all the shares. The share holder has agreed to me adding more shares down the road. Once the shareholder and I work out all the finer detail and make sure that both parties are happy, I will be adding more shares along with a detailed page of how the shares work and what the guidelines are. |

Koniforous
Tauren Transit
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Posted - 2014.06.05 04:49:00 -
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Ok, share prices makes sense to me now, and it's still pretty cool. Keep us updated on how you're doing. If you experience negative profits, will you absorb the losses instead of declining share prices? TAUTX Bank: 12.5% of profits paid to investors monthly. More info: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=322582&find=unread |

Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
339
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Posted - 2014.06.05 06:24:00 -
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I am interested, please send a full API key and I'll get back to you. "If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba |

Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
0
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Posted - 2014.06.05 06:38:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:I am interested, please send a full API key and I'll get back to you.
All shares have been bought up. Sorry for the inconvenience, I can inform you when shares open up if you would like |

Lord LazyGhost
The Bastards The Bastards.
357
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Posted - 2014.06.05 07:52:00 -
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HI mate like said in game as soon as you do some new shares gives a shout :) |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
316
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Posted - 2014.06.05 19:41:00 -
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Did anyone who checked the API notice that of OP's 160m NAV, 60m was from selling Geckos and 20m was from a donation by a former CEO? I didn't get the chance to look much further. I'd be interested in what the investors thoughts were. .
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Keanu Revis
Fargo Regional Trading
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Posted - 2014.06.06 00:06:00 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Did anyone who checked the API notice that of OP's 160m NAV, 60m was from selling Geckos and 20m was from a donation by a former CEO? I didn't get the chance to look much further. I'd be interested in what the investors thoughts were.
former CEO gave me ISK for purchasing skill books, that I could not afford at the current time cause my ISK was all in the market, I did not ask for it, but he was very nice to give me it to help me out. |
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