Thus, supercap alliances don't commit supers as often

Lose subcap fight, all your caps/supers on the field die.

Good.

Enjoy the patch.

Tippia, the ships may be used somewhat less often, but I promise you that when they are, you will like the results even less than you do now.

death2supercaps

The uber supercap pilot that logged off last night after we tackled him in a sanctum will be madder than you in a few weeks, but not by much.

The peasants look forward to looting your wreck.

Also, your concept of the fair fight is hilarious, please expand on it.

My concept of a fair/fun fight it a fight that is not predetermined before it starts.

Under the new rules, no super pilot will commit his 20-50 bil isk ship unless he knows he can win. Thus, he will simply join the largest alliance possible and require their pets/peasant soldiers to die for his continued glory. Same as before, just with even bigger blobs.

1. Super Capitals and Titans were only supposed to be held and used by a few "elite" players.
3. The deployment of Super-capitals and Titans was envisaged to be a show of power in addition to large sub-capital fleets, and
4. Super-capitals and Titans were planned as anti capital platforms.

Because the Super-capital class were essentially immune to the sub-cap class only the very dumb (and alone) Super-capital pilots suffered losses. This led to a proliferation of Super-Capitals that has reduced sov warfare to being:

N Super Caps < N+1 Super Caps

The argument that Super-capital pilots will congeal into large blobs is a laughable.
H-W; 2 biggest Super-Capital blobs in the game
UMI: 2 biggest Super-Capital blobs in the game
LXQ2: 2 biggest Super-Capital blobs in the game
VFK: 1 Biggest Super-Capital blob in the game

You can argue that these blobs were not permanent - however due to the nature of Super-capital mechanics, every alliance NAP since the fall of IT has been about Super-capital dominance.

And this is different from now how? Point me to the fight where SC pilots went in without at least thinking their side had the tactical advantage. The fact that they may have been wrong doesn't make it a fair fight.

I think this quote, coming from this poaster, pretty much counts as Federally certified evidence for everything I just said above.

My concept of a fair/fun fight it a fight that is not predetermined before it starts.

Under the new rules, no super pilot will commit his 20-50 bil isk ship unless he knows he can win. Thus, he will simply join the largest alliance possible and require their pets/peasant soldiers to die for his continued glory. Same as before, just with even bigger blobs.

Old EVE:

Supers are OP against a lot of ships, and are used in various ways by their owners. Some of these uses are abusive... but in general supers still die to well run fleets, and there are several "fun" uses for supers in relatively small alliances/fleets.


New EVE:

Lose subcap fight, all your caps/supers on the field die. No one with a supercap is willing to purposefully risk that in a "fair" or "fun" fight.

Thus, supercap alliances don't commit supers as often, but when they do, they only commit supers with massive, unstoppable support, and with massive massive blobs of supers. (See: the DRF facestomp the NC in 2011, with super fleets around 150 ships, and subcap support at 500-1500 ships. There were not a lot of actual fights as the NC died. 95% of the time, the spies simply sized up each fleet, and the FC would disengage if his fleet was smaller.)

Thus, under the new system, superpilots in smaller alliances will see that their smaller alliances never deploy supers, and will leave those alliances. They will join the 3-4 largest alliances in the game, and supers will become even more concentrated, and will be used in even more "unfair" and less-fun ways.

It's true that these changes will reduce the use of small gangs of caps/super caps for hotdrops. But these changes will also result in a massive concentration of wealth/firepower in an even smaller number of player alliances. In the long run, this will further restrict access to 0.0 for younger players, and make EVE a less fun game.

(P.S. The Mittani will finally be on track to ruin EVE, his ultimate stated goal).

Old EVE:

Supers are OP against a lot of ships, and are used in various ways by their owners. Some of these uses are abusive... but in general supers still die to well run fleets, and there are several "fun" uses for supers in relatively small alliances/fleets.


New EVE:

Lose subcap fight, all your caps/supers on the field die.

Actually, that is MY point. What you fail to extrapolate from your own data is that this trend will be EVEN FURTHER MAGNIFIED by the new nerf -- as super pilots will have more reason than ever to be in the N+1 blob rather than the N blob.

Do you understand? Yes / No

Under the new rules, no super pilot will commit his 20-50 bil isk ship unless he knows he can win. .