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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.08.17 05:24:00 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Maybe you cant get 4 cycles off but you can easily get 3 off and it is nowhere near 30 sec You're right, I was wrong. But a catalyst still wouldn't come anywhere near being able to gank a mackinaw. This just means it'll take less than ten of them. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |

Fourteen Maken
Interstellar Holding ltd.
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Posted - 2014.08.17 14:04:00 -
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Small gangs of smart bombing destroyers would sit off gates around low blapping pods, frigates, and stealth bombers all day long. It's already a thing with battleships, this might make it too cheap |

Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.08.17 14:21:00 -
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Fourteen Maken wrote:Small gangs of smart bombing destroyers would sit off gates around low blapping pods, frigates, and stealth bombers all day long. It's already a thing with battleships, this might make it too cheap
That be my concern. Currently the best bang for the buck is disco BS'. So that 0.0 has to put some money out for the (cheesy) camp.
And cost prohibitive for low sec which really doesn't need the sleazy easy kill on frigates. Especially since frigates are the only valid real successful way to clear them. I'd like to keep it somewhat of a game. If I run low sec in a frigate, don't like what I am seeing on the gate, they have to want me more than than I want to gtfo out of there. Not the pvp they are looking for....but it is pvp none the less. My avoidance tactics versus their catching tactics....lets see whose is better. Vice having this and its open season with cheap throwaway disco frigs and dessies. |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:18:00 -
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But their range is a lot smaller. I don't know if you realize this, but a smartbombing destroyer has less than 20% of the stargate coverage that a battleship has. That is the bigger reason why they don't get used much. Having pathetically low damage just seals the deal, because that way, on the off chance something wanders in to their small radius, it's not going to take much of a hit before wandering out again. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |

Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:40:00 -
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Some months ago I made a proposal to improve the DPS of the small smartbombs. I made some rough calculations and some balancing to make them viable as a weapon system of their on in the current scenario. Here's the thread if anyone wants to take a look:
http://eve-search.com/thread/311630-1 |

Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:58:00 -
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Looks like you're suggesting pretty close to what I'm suggesting. I kept some rather simple numbers, same DPS across all sizes and I was thinking (but didn't say here) to decrease the CPU cost from 30 to 20. Your final DPS was a little lower and your CPU cost a little higher. Might be more valid since you used much more in-depth comparisons.
In the end, I think the final balancing can be done by testing. But one thing is for sure, small smartbombs aren't getting used nearly enough, and it is clearly due to their horribly inferior stats. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |

Leafar Nightfall
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:24:00 -
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I made the number low on purpose. As you can see by the pros list the smartbombs have unique characteristics that make them superior in many ways to the other weapon systems. Although they have a fairly short range, it is bigger then blasters and there's no counter for its damage, while even against missile based systems you can lower your signature and boost your speed to avoid the full damage being applied.
I mean, the damage application on smartbombs is great, I'd dare say the best amongst all weapons systems. So any number that would look good as "paper DPS" would be OP. If you think about how consistently you can apply damage to multiple targets, 80dps almost sound like it is too much.
In any way, whatever the balancing method is, all the smaller sized smartbombs need some tweaking. |
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