However, the behaviors in WoD are actually practiced by some very sick people in RL that remain under the radar.

This gon be good.

Someone pass the popcorn.

Doreen makes some very well founded points, I agree with her as far as CCP canning something that does not relate to internet spaceships (Eve) at all. The mistake as pointed out in the Guardian article was enough proof in the pudding, BUT it came with a price to pay in the end. The community lost those who worked on this were laid off or left voluntarily and I feel for those people as well.

What we are seeing tho is not just with CCP, rather it's going through the industry as a whole.

Doreen makes some very well founded points, I agree with her as far as CCP canning something that does not relate to internet spaceships (Eve) at all. The mistake as pointed out in the Guardian article was enough proof in the pudding, BUT it came with a price to pay in the end. The community lost those who worked on this were laid off or left voluntarily and I feel for those people as well.

What we are seeing tho is not just with CCP, rather it's going through the industry as a whole.

This gon be good.

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I will not judge the WOD concept and IP. It has its fans, and to each their own entertainment as long it does not encroach in other people's free will and freedoms.

Now, I have never been a big fan of CCP merging with White Wolf in the first place. I even wonder how much of it lead to the catastrophically misguided incarna project....
I am also glad to see CCP ditch this project and keep their focus on the Eve universe..

I have my reserves on DUST and Valkyries but at least they develop them within the EVE overarching universe, and certainly the last updates released for EVE have been showing that CCP has it's priorities in order and keep working on the spaceship game that in the first place built their reputation.

Id eat all the miner corpses, but I don't want to die of Entitlement poisoning.

WTF?

No but seriously

I dont even know where to begin

I really hope this is a troll thread, but if it is, Im very disappoint

Pilot Ramona,

I like to draw your attention for a moment please. What we are dealing with is real people who worked on a project that would either made it or flounder and sink. This is reality, this is in no way a troll thread and I hate to say but you need to step in their shoes for a moment and realize things comes to an end when we don't expect it. If I stepped on your toes too hard I apologize.

They were using the WoD programmers to develop Eve, using the WoD code to develop Eve, pretty much nullifying your whole spiel.

Was that before Incarna? I do not have insider knowledge, so this is indeed speculation from my part.
Thanks for the insight!

You do know that vampires are just make-believe, right?

So is Eve, your point?

My mind... psssshhhh

That attempting to categorize an attempted game about vampires as being endemic of the gradual acceptance of a sexually deviant and abhorrent behavior is beyond asinine.

There have been times in Eve when I have killed a much superior player, and have wished that I could eat their corpse in order to gain their power.



Id eat all the miner corpses, but I don't want to die of Entitlement poisoning.

Windigo power activate! I think you only have to eat the heart so not too many calories and low carb!

They were used for Apocrypha, and possibly another expansion. However the basis for Incarna development was primarily done by WoD staff.

My point.
Incarna could have been ( I am purely speculating here) a result of CCP needing 3d animated characters for a world that was humano-vampiro centric...
I do not know if the concept of incarna would have been pursued on its own if there was not a potential use for it with WOD.
If this was the case, they probably judged at the time that the synergy was viable, without forecasting the EVE player base's reaction to this.

WTF?

No but seriously

I dont even know where to begin

What are you on about?

I am curious what could have been...

But, oh well.

vOv

Not enough......pssshhhhhhhhh, I guess.

I made a few cute stockings. ;)

Moral panic, never change. You are always such an unendingly huge source of gut-busting hilarity.

Dear OP,
In the same way that a healthy person with a peaceful mind is invisible to psychology and seen as insipid to the carnival of vanity that passes for human life, so your concerns about the corrosive effect of concentrated horror as entertainment will be a non-starter.
Take heart though, most people interested in this sort of thing are intelligent, bland suburbanites. The small amount of sick people attracted will always find something to focus their pathology on and are never indicative of the wider audience*.
EvE already ticks all the boxes WoD had anyway, immortal elite powerful demigods vying for dominance under endless night, yep sounds like Placid FW lowsec to me.



* Except Slipknot fans, i wouldn't use that crowd to fertilise my lawn.

We cant even harvest corpses in EVE for implants. In WoD, corpses are a food source. Yuck.

In EVE, on the other hand, the death of several million people per hour is the main source of income and monetary sustenance for the capsuleer community.

We cant even harvest corpses in EVE for implants. In WoD, corpses are a food source. Yuck.

My point.
Incarna could have been ( I am purely speculating here) a result of CCP needing 3d animated characters for a world that was humano-vampiro centric...
I do not know if the concept of incarna would have been pursued on its own if there was not a potential use for it with WOD.
If this was the case, they probably judged at the time that the synergy was viable, without forecasting the EVE player base's reaction to this.

Maybe it's just me, maybe I just don't "get it," but I found the theme of WoD to be depressingly and pornographically grotesque.

Fantasy is fun. But it's just fantasy. There are no real Orcs among us. No magic casting wizards or cloaked rogues. No immortal capsuleers flying around in space. However, the behaviors in WoD are actually practiced by some very sick people in RL that remain under the radar.

Was that before Incarna? I do not have insider knowledge, so this is indeed speculation from my part.
Thanks for the insight!

Perhaps, but EVE is not as visually grotesque and leaves much for the imagination.

WoD didnt.

We cant even harvest corpses in EVE for implants. In WoD, corpses are a food source. Yuck.

As someone who grew up playing V:TM I was really looking forward to a V:TM MMORPG. I wish CCP would sell White Wolf to someone who can properly realize games like World of Darkness instead of letting White Wolf continue on as CCP's publishing house for EVE books.

And to the OP who believes a vampire/horror/modern gothic themed MMO is "depressingly and pornographically grotesque" I completely agree, its partly the reason I was looking forward to the game in the first place. As an adult who has grown up with video games I would love to play some games that are actually for adults, games with copious amounts of strong sexual content and graphic violence, I for one am sick of games being watered down and censored because Hades forbid younger gamers ever play something with virtual content on par with something they watched on HBO.

THis is exactly what people were saying in 1994 when Magic the Gathering butchered the RPG industry overnight.

It came back, though its still not at the level it was in 1992

I am not sure what this post is about but allow this old greybeard his moments of memory if you would.

Rant over.