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StinkFinger
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:03:00 -
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Any ideas? No faction stuff. --
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:04:00 -
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either neutron ganka megathron or gankageddon afaik (both with drones)
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Bren Kasir
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:06:00 -
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In order, if i had to guess and based on rumours:
Blasterthron AC pest Pulse geddon
all with a full loadout of large drones of course.
Bren Kasir ---
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Phoenix Pryde
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:07:00 -
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Astarte, followed by Sleipnir ?
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:08:00 -
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AC pest has more DPS than gankageddon?!? (drones included)?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:10:00 -
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omglol is all I have to say at the sleipnir and tempest being up in the top :)
Megathron is top, Geddon is second, and I cba to work out the rest.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul either neutron ganka megathron or gankageddon afaik (both with drones)
lies evyeone knows ammar does **** dps
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:23:00 -
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Check the stickies at the top Tuxford put up some graphs to compare dmg and range.
Blaster mega seems to have the highest dmg but only at a very limited range. Raven has constantly same dmg over a very long range, though their missiles have a delay before hitting.
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Bren Kasir
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:25:00 -
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Raven damage sucks in comparison though. It's nice per volley but the immense volley time really messes you up.
On the other hand I do accept the raven being overpowered in its ability to both tank and deal damage compared to the other BS :)
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:30:00 -
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I was under the impression the Arma has the absolute highest DPS of the lot given maximum skills with both Ogre II's, Megapulse II's and the Amarr BS skill
The Megathron was outdone by about 50dps at most from the last thread I seen on the subject, can't be arsed looking for it though :P -----
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Naughty Boy The dominix is the most damaging non capital ship.
NB.
with what 6x neutonr blaster ii's and 5x orge ii's?
(which you wont fit in a million years)
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:35:00 -
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The dominix is the most damaging non capital ship.
NB.
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:36:00 -
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neutron gank mega gankageddon neutron gank astarte
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239 with what 6x neutonr blaster ii's and 5x orge ii's?
I'm aware it's not a viable fitting, but what's to accept as a viable fittings anyway...
In fact it's just behind the gank-mega if you do not consider drone damage mods, but Tux said they weren't in for a reason related to a bug, not because they would be overpowered.
Not accounting drone damage mods (because they aren't in right now), it's mega>rage/hail typhoon>dom>arma... above 1200 dps.
NB.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:50:00 -
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For anybody who says sliepnir and AC tempest, you are very wrong.
an AC sleipnir with max skills and dmg implants would be hard pressed to break 900 dps.
An AC tempest with max skills and dmg implants can break 1000 dps, but its still a good deal behind blasterthron, gankageddon, and the astarte as far as I know, all of which easily break 1000 dps on guns alone and then have more drone space.
Shamis
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.06.11 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Blind Man neutron gank mega gankageddon neutron gank astarte
Domi > astarte, and possibly more than geddon :P
However it doesn't fit... in any viable way. --------- Dead already? |

Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.06.12 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Gronsak on 12/06/2006 01:44:04 cba to do the math for it but a raven with rage torps and 2x heavy neutrons t2 with 3bcu t2 and 2 mag stbas t2 also add in 3x t2 ogres should i think pass a blasterthron,
Edit, might want to try 4bcu t2 and 1 mag stab?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.06.12 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC Edited by: LUKEC on 11/06/2006 22:56:11
Originally by: Blind Man neutron gank mega gankageddon neutron gank astarte
Domi(not viable in pvp) > astarte, and possibly more than geddon :P Don't forget raven with rage torps, i think it does something like 1200dps(drones, implants... )
The Rage Torps alone do 956 DPS ------
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Philip Sterling
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Posted - 2006.06.12 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 12/06/2006 01:44:04 cba to do the math for it but a raven with rage torps and 2x heavy neutrons t2 with 3bcu t2 and 2 mag stbas t2 also add in 3x t2 ogres should i think pass a blasterthron,
Edit, might want to try 4bcu t2 and 1 mag stab?
maybe, but you have to remember that it takes 3 t2 target painters to get rage torps to deal full damage against a BS. IMO, rage torps should be discluded from the descussion entirely.
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2006.06.12 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz An AC tempest with max skills and dmg implants can break 1000 dps, but its still a good deal behind blasterthron, gankageddon, and the astarte as far as I know, all of which easily break 1000 dps on guns alone and then have more drone space.
It's a common misconception that an Astarte can easily break that much DPS. IIRC with max skills, 7 neutrons (which don't fit) and 3 damage mods it gets 1150 DPS. Around 900-1000 with 3 and 750-850 with 2 damage mods is more realistic with good skills. For example with 6 neuts 1 ion 2 dmods I do 835 DPS (missing surgical V and spec V but have a 5% damage and 3% rof implants so basically should do more than max skills).
I only get 790 on the blasterthron due to average skills  ---
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.06.12 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gronsak on 12/06/2006 02:02:13
Originally by: Philip Sterling
Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 12/06/2006 01:44:04 cba to do the math for it but a raven with rage torps and 2x heavy neutrons t2 with 3bcu t2 and 2 mag stbas t2 also add in 3x t2 ogres should i think pass a blasterthron,
Edit, might want to try 4bcu t2 and 1 mag stab?
maybe, but you have to remember that it takes 3 t2 target painters to get rage torps to deal full damage against a BS. IMO, rage torps should be discluded from the descussion entirely.
not at all, perfectly viable setup! not to forget you only need 3 TP in the whole gang, the raven itself doesnt need to carry the TP, it can fill those mids with ecm or a tank or what ever
also note the 7k+? burst of that ship, and the 60+km range.
Originally by: Jim Raynor
The Rage Torps alone do 956 DPS
3 ogre 2s add roughly 62DPS each, giving another 186DPS, add to that 2 heavy neutron blasters [or heavy pulse] which adds another 120DPS. giving roughly 1262, i think that passes a blasterthron, and it can chose dmg type and has 60+km range, oh and that sexy 7k burst! and the ability to chance to javelin torps and do max dmg to crusiers and hacs with 249km range, FTW
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.06.12 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
Originally by: Philip Sterling
Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 12/06/2006 01:44:04 cba to do the math for it but a raven with rage torps and 2x heavy neutrons t2 with 3bcu t2 and 2 mag stbas t2 also add in 3x t2 ogres should i think pass a blasterthron,
Edit, might want to try 4bcu t2 and 1 mag stab?
maybe, but you have to remember that it takes 3 t2 target painters to get rage torps to deal full damage against a BS. IMO, rage torps should be discluded from the descussion entirely.
not at all, perfectly viable setup! not to forget you only need 3 TP in the whole gang, the raven itself doesnt need to carry the TP, it can fill those mids with ecm or a tank or what ever
also note the 7k+? burst of that ship, and the 60+km range.
actually it isn't, not enough cpu, needs injector and for that you'd need a rcu II.. 3 bcu II is about as many as you can get. ------
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.06.12 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
actually it isn't, not enough cpu, needs injector and for that you'd need a rcu II.. 3 bcu II is about as many as you can get.
CPU is fine, also u dont NEED a injecter, u want an injecter, how many of the gedden setups consider an injecter!
6x siege 2, 2x heavy neutron 2 2x sensor booster, 4xecm 4x bcu t2, 1x mag stab t2
loose some ecm and sensor boosters if u want the raven to TP but u only need 3 TP in your whole gang!
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2006.06.12 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 12/06/2006 03:06:04
Originally by: Gronsak
Originally by: Jim Raynor
actually it isn't, not enough cpu, needs injector and for that you'd need a rcu II.. 3 bcu II is about as many as you can get.
CPU is fine, also u dont NEED a injecter, u want an injecter, how many of the gedden setups consider an injecter!
6x siege 2, 2x heavy neutron 2 2x sensor booster, 4xecm 4x bcu t2, 1x mag stab t2
loose some ecm and sensor boosters if u want the raven to TP but u only need 3 TP in your whole gang!
no web those heavy neutron IIs wont hit a damn thing (nor will you ever get in range to use them..), and with rage you'll never keep your ECM going without injector.. ------
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Capone McFredrik
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Posted - 2006.06.12 05:52:00 -
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How big is the difference in DPS from regular BS to faction BS? Like the Raven / Navy Issue Raven?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.12 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Capone McFredrik How big is the difference in DPS from regular BS to faction BS? Like the Raven / Navy Issue Raven?
It has 16.7% more damage from launchers, but that takes a highslot (which could have another weapon in)
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.12 05:57:00 -
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Also, I think the gankathron came out top last time I compared (not much more than gankageddon, but at 1/10 the range), but hail on an AC-pest might be higher now: need to look at it again.
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.06.12 06:06:00 -
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rifter with 3 civilian gatling railguns  ---------
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.06.12 06:40:00 -
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with t2 gear a neutron full ganked out mega BARELY eeks out over the geddon,a geddon with officer mods and you will get nigh capitol ship dps especially with sentry drones
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Hugh Ruka
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Posted - 2006.06.12 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gronsak
Originally by: Jim Raynor
actually it isn't, not enough cpu, needs injector and for that you'd need a rcu II.. 3 bcu II is about as many as you can get.
CPU is fine, also u dont NEED a injecter, u want an injecter, how many of the gedden setups consider an injecter!
6x siege 2, 2x heavy neutron 2 2x sensor booster, 4xecm 4x bcu t2, 1x mag stab t2
loose some ecm and sensor boosters if u want the raven to TP but u only need 3 TP in your whole gang!
this needs an assistant ship that will web and TP the target ... or you won't ever get close enought for the neutrons to hit and/or rage torps to hit for full damage. but theoretical DPS is nice I admit.
it's the perfect example of a high DPS but perfectly useless ship setup. maybe if you park it at a POS shield ... well but then it gets fried in seconds by the POS. ------------------------------ if you want peace, prepare for war ... ------------------------------ Removed due to offensive content - Laqum
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