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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 11:48:00 -
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 Originally by: loony zoon
It's a supply side problem. Quick fixes -
1) drastically reduce t2 manufacturing times
2) make t2 bpo copying times about 25% of the manufacturing time.
just my tuppence worth.
yes, make t2 ship owners even richer 
There needs to be a lot more BPOs seeded. Not BPCs, but BPOs.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: DarkCEO
For 200 mill you can buy the most expensive HAC if you cant afford 200 million your doing something wrong.
200m with full insurance? Sure, most people could afford that. It's 200m with a 30m insurance payout that's the killer.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: DarkCEO
Nothing new is being said in this thread.Either buy a HAC or dont if enough people dont prices will fall.Going on and on about it will not change a thing and remember PVP is not just in space its also on the market.
All it takes is 20 people buying each HAC for the prices to stay as they are. EVE has over 100000 accounts and rising. Each day more and more people can use HACs. You do the maths - HAC prices are NOT going to fall.
Now, take into account the BPOs that are not in production and the ones that are kept for only alliance use and you are probably left with 10 BPOs of each HAC that are producing for the market.
Oveur has stated that there are not enough HAC BPOs, although as usual nothing actually resulted from his comments :/. If we just had a "Yes we are going to seed more BPOs stating from DD/MM/YYYY" or "We're not ever going to seed anymore BPOs" there wouldn't be this constant state of confusion and (probably) useless optimisism that the system will change.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
How about educating the singleminded caldari people so that they fly the Eagle and not just the Cerberus? I mean they cost half...
And who are you to tell us what ships we want to fly?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tasuric Orka
T2 producers that care should just personalise the selling process a little, set up a website, put stuff for sale and just refuse to sell to people that buy more than what is "normal". That should nerf the resellers quite a bit.
Not really, you just buy with an alt. When the resellers start hiking up the prices, the HAC producers follow suite. Vicious circle :/
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Khatred
Originally by: Tasuric Orka
T2 producers that care should just personalise the selling process a little, set up a website, put stuff for sale and just refuse to sell to people that buy more than what is "normal". That should nerf the resellers quite a bit.
Tried that. Wouldn't ever again. Or maybe I would, if the forums wouldn't exist but frankly, after reading 90% of the topics on Eve forums, I am not interested in being nice to the other players. Most of them aren't worth in my book (as Eve players, I have no ideea how they are in RL)
So because the players don't like the BPO system, you don't like the players? Or was it something more personal?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 19:04:00 -
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To be honest, I don't think it's the producers who are getting shouted at, it's CCP for letting the situation get to this point.
I wonder if this is how they envisioned the T2 ship market turning out :/
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gort
Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader
T2 BPs in general should be purchasable. Lotto winners got their bags of money, now let's get some ships into the galaxy and bring prices down to reasonable levels.
Sorry, I disagree. The ships are meant to be rare.
Prove it.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Peoke
wow is it me or do many people not see that alot of the alliances in game have the hac bpos. and as such choose to rather sell them in house to thier members to better defend/attack with then sell em to the open market. i think these ships are selling for what people will pay and as such why would the prices drop when the people will pay or buy and resell at that price. if u want one grind the isk and buy one
Everyone knows this. The issue is that there are too few BPOs, something Oveur himself has stated. What we're all ****ed off about is after all this time still nothing is done.
How high do the prices need to rise before CCP act on their own concerns?
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