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Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 03:53:00 - [1] - Quote the cost of a plex in ISK has gone up 41 million isk in the last 6 days and is now topping a masive 500 mill isk on the markets. I personal think this is now out of reach for many of the casual players currently playing eve and will ultimatly drive them away, I speak as one my self. Playing for free was for me the last realistic draw for playing EVE. What has the real cost of PLEX been for the game as a whole. Is it a good thing turned bad by sheer greed as with so many other things in the game. I personal think that in 90 days time the eve population will fall drasticly. Sadly I don't think I will be around to see if I am right or not. Paying real money to be this bored is not really that apeeling to me. No you can not have my stuff
Montevius Williams Eclipse Industrial Inc 119	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:01:00 - [2] - Quote This happens every expansion cycle. Supply and demand baby!!!
Shivus Tao Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 60	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:04:00 - [3] - Quote Montevius Williams wrote: This happens every expansion cycle. Supply and demand baby!!! Likely price gouging to an extent as well. There seems to be an ample supply of plex, people just realize they can pump up the price at the start of a new expansion, doubly so to catch tentative returns from the incarna exodus.
JitaJane Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 48	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:05:00 - [4] - Quote Because $15 is such an onerous burden?
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:09:00 - [5] - Quote Supply and demand I agree this could be a reason for this huge inflation. BUT! I suspect that less players are buying actual plex from CCP and the driving force behind the inflation is the buy orders not the sell orders. Think about it less plex available will drive the price up not down. So less plex being available on the market means less real cash ging into the CCP bank. What will CCP do to rectify this, we have allready seen the "buy plex now advert" havent we. The cost of plex is sky rocketing up at such a rate in a months or less they will be 1 billion isk a pop. Will that drive them out of existance. Stay tuned I supose.
Barbie D0ll Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 25	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:09:00 - [6] - Quote its more along the lines of having to grind for 5-10 hours for a plex
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:11:00 - [7] - Quote Barbie D0ll wrote: its more along the lines of having to grind for 5-10 hours for a plex HOLY COW you can make 500 mill isk in 5-10 hours. Man how boring must the game be for you.
suZy pLaIn Civil Acquisition Committee 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:13:00 - [8] - Quote Boadicea Wales wrote: Barbie D0ll wrote: its more along the lines of having to grind for 5-10 hours for a plex HOLY COW you can make 500 mill isk in 5-10 hours. Man how boring must the game be for you. Incursions are the Care Bear wet dream come true. I can run incursions, gate camp with a 0.0 corp, and use my market trader all at the same time. You can make a lot more isk in 5-10 hours then you'd think.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:18:00 - [9] - Quote suZy pLaIn wrote: Boadicea Wales wrote: Barbie D0ll wrote: its more along the lines of having to grind for 5-10 hours for a plex HOLY COW you can make 500 mill isk in 5-10 hours. Man how boring must the game be for you. Incursions are the Care Bear wet dream come true. I can run incursions, gate camp with a 0.0 corp, and use my market trader all at the same time. You can make a lot more isk in 5-10 hours then you'd think. I would have to be unemployed to achive that dude. or overly commit my out of work time to EVE, a some thing I find very unattractive.
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 183	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:22:00 - [10] - Quote JitaJane wrote: Because $15 is such an onerous burden? ^^ Exactly my question. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Kahldor State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:24:00 - [11] - Quote Boadicea Wales wrote: suZy pLaIn wrote: Boadicea Wales wrote: Barbie D0ll wrote: its more along the lines of having to grind for 5-10 hours for a plex HOLY COW you can make 500 mill isk in 5-10 hours. Man how boring must the game be for you. Incursions are the Care Bear wet dream come true. I can run incursions, gate camp with a 0.0 corp, and use my market trader all at the same time. You can make a lot more isk in 5-10 hours then you'd think. I would have to be unemployed to achive that dude. or overly commit my out of work time to EVE, a some thing I find very unattractive. Of course! 5-10 hours a month of playing eve I would have to be unemployed too
Shivus Tao Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 60	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:26:00 - [12] - Quote If you can't dedicate 5 or 10 hours a month to making the money for a plex you should have gone into industry to passively make that over a month. You can play eve for 30 minutes a day and that comes out to ~15 hours of playtime in that month.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:28:00 - [13] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: JitaJane wrote: Because $15 is such an onerous burden? ^^ Exactly my question. I find paying any money to be this bored in a game untenable, I am talking about the casual player here these are usualy the old long term players who have been there and done it. The guys who pay the $15 are usualy the young excitable types new to the game or dare i say it the EVE junkies who simple can not live with out their EVE fix. I know my chars age says it is young but I have had many rebirths in eve and been playing since Sept 06, the appel for me is in the building of a char.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:35:00 - [14] - Quote LOL so now 5-10 hours a day has become an acceptable bench mark for making 500 million isk for all eve players FFS get real. This plex thing could finish eve stop being dickheads and face up to it as being a possability and stop being dicks about it Really you people live in your bubbles and no one or nothing will ever distract you from your own personal reality will it, man I truly pitty people like you. Plex could have a very detromental effect on eve and should that be the case we are racing towards it at full steam ahead.
iNfeck7ed Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn 4	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:37:00 - [15] - Quote What are you a peasant? Pay for the game and you don't have to waste time buying plex. If 15 dollars crosses your principles (lol, cough, poverty!) then gtfo and play something else, but i can't say you'll be missed.
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. 27	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:37:00 - [16] - Quote Blame goons. PLEX fluctuates. Get back to playing.
Shivus Tao Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 60	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:42:00 - [17] - Quote Either troll or very mad. 5-10 hours a day is a very realistic number for just about anyone to make 500mil a month.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:44:00 - [18] - Quote iNfeck7ed wrote: What are you a peasant? Pay for the game and you don't have to waste time buying plex. If 15 dollars crosses your principles (lol, cough, poverty!) then gtfo and play something else, but i can't say you'll be missed. $15 won't break the bank here have no worries about that but the princaples behind the plex are such that people want to continue to play for free ( free being a small commitment of time in order to free up a larger amount of time) I supose you'll ignor that and continue to mutter on about paying real money as being no big deal, so what ever I supose. 90 days time I predict a sharp fall off in the number of player logging on. I say 90 days as many may have 2 or 3 plex allready comited to their game time. But back to my OP what is the real cost of PLEX in the game?
Kahldor State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:53:00 - [19] - Quote With plex being 500mil anyone making 20mil a day would more than cover the cost over the course of a month. Sure you won't be flying Pimp fit ships or PVPing like crazy but 20 mil a day isn't that hard to make. The average L4 runner can make that in an hour and the incursion runner can make 10x that and not have to put up looting/salvaging/cashing LP etc. If you specialize in trade or indy you only need to make 2mil/slot/day. I make far more than that and hardly spend more than an hour a day logged in. Sure the 3day old character probably won't be able to afford a plex their 1st or maybe 2nd month due to not being able to fly decent ships, lack of skills, etc. The only people that should be complaining about plex prices are the hardcore highsec miners that spend all day mining in highsec for 8mil/hr to "play for free." If anyone has trouble affording $15/month they shouldn't be playing EVE in the first place. So as to your question: the real cost of plex is about 500mil ISK in the game.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:56:00 - [20] - Quote well we will see how things pan out wont we but alass I wont be around to say "I told you so" unless CCP steps in and brings the price of PLEX down to around 300 mill. So crack on you eve junkies long may your lum reek
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 208	Posted - 2011.11.18 04:57:00 - [21] - Quote Why should anybody respond to you, they've already told you that 500 million is a trivial amount to make, it takes at most 10 hours a month to earn that much (Highsec incursions bring in about 100 mil an hour). You've chosen to scoff at that and call the people telling you that dicks. So, to answer your question, quit, please, *******, nobody cares if you spend the 10 hours a month it takes to earn well more than enough to afford a plex, even if they were to spiral up to 1 bil a month, its easily achievable.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:00:00 - [22] - Quote Grath Telkin wrote: Why should anybody respond to you, they've already told you that 500 million is a trivial amount to make, it takes at most 10 hours a month to earn that much (Highsec incursions bring in about 100 mil an hour). You've chosen to scoff at that and call the people telling you that dicks. So, to answer your question, quit, please, *******, nobody cares if you spend the 10 hours a month it takes to earn well more than enough to afford a plex, even if they were to spiral up to 1 bil a month, its easily achievable. Your talking out of your ass dude and you know it.
Kahldor State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:03:00 - [23] - Quote I'm calling troll.
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 208	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:08:00 - [24] - Quote Boadicea Wales wrote: Your talking out of your ass dude and you know it. Wait, are you really so stupid as to not know that High Sec Incursions make 100 milion an hour?
Nelran Estemaire No Spoon Inc 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:09:00 - [25] - Quote Boadicea Wales wrote: well we will see how things pan out wont we but alass I wont be around to say "I told you so" unless CCP steps in and brings the price of PLEX down to around 300 mill. So crack on you eve junkies long may your lum reek Calling troll. And CCP dont have anything to do with plex prices on the market. If the plex is too high for you, blame the people docked in jita.
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance 335	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:14:00 - [26] - Quote Boadicea Wales wrote: suZy pLaIn wrote: Boadicea Wales wrote: Barbie D0ll wrote: its more along the lines of having to grind for 5-10 hours for a plex HOLY COW you can make 500 mill isk in 5-10 hours. Man how boring must the game be for you. Incursions are the Care Bear wet dream come true. I can run incursions, gate camp with a 0.0 corp, and use my market trader all at the same time. You can make a lot more isk in 5-10 hours then you'd think. I would have to be unemployed to achive that dude. or overly commit my out of work time to EVE, a some thing I find very unattractive. I'm unemployed (well, actually a freelancer.. but i'm really really really short on cash) so i rely on plexes to pay for my account. However, even with a really low wage i know people who are more than capable of affording 15 bucks a month. You're saying you are not unemployed and yet you can't pay 15 bucks a month? Rated ARG for Pirates. *** you.*
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 208	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:14:00 - [27] - Quote Here, I'll do a little leg work for you and just use Google to help you out: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1570165 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=93934#post93934 http://www.eveproguides.com/the-isk-pro-guide/ http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2011/08/fermi-estimate.html https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=201437#post201437 All four of those quote how much you can earn easily make in an hour, some estimates are as high as 120 mil per hour, so you can call people names all you want and tell me im talking out of my ass... But at the end of the day you look really ******* dumb.
Jerek Mothas Eleutherian Guard 14	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:14:00 - [28] - Quote There needs to be some kind of an ingame NPC ISK faucet. Something we can spend ISK on that will actually take it out of the game. This would make PLEX less unreachable and balance out the market. As it is, there's so many methods of putting ISK into the game, but few (if any) ways to put it back out. PLEX doesn't do much either. Just circulates it in large quantities.
Grath Telkin Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 208	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:15:00 - [29] - Quote I'll wait right here while you work out how to word your apology.
Boadicea Wales THE MAGPIE ACQUISITIONS 1	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:15:00 - [30] - Quote Grath Telkin wrote: Boadicea Wales wrote: Your talking out of your ass dude and you know it. Wait, are you really so stupid as to not know that High Sec Incursions make 100 milion an hour? Oh ya I was born full of all the knowlage i will ever need in life and in all matters eve related you stupid boy. So you are suggesting that I commit 1 hour a day to doing incursions to make 100 mill isk and repeat that for 5 days to obtain a plex. HOLY COW why oh why are the other 49,999 players logged on to eve not doing this. OMG it s so simple. no wait al of us must be morons for not doing it. Truly what is making me laugh here is your ability to make your self look like a compleat fool all by your self with out any help from any one. Shall I repeat my self. Your talking out of your ass dude and you know it.

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