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Samoht Nenik	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:05:00 - [1] Edited by: Samoht Nenik on 12/06/2006 14:05:24 Hi don't have much experience flying Interceptors, but which one do you consider best for fighting against other ceptors? Are 400mm plates worth fitting for this?
Rells	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:09:00 - [2] Originally by: Samoht Nenik Edited by: Samoht Nenik on 12/06/2006 14:05:24 Hi don't have much experience flying Interceptors, but which one do you consider best for fighting against other ceptors? Are 400mm plates worth fitting for this? 1v1 PvP in Eve is more than half luck. If you catch the other guy in the wrong setup and you in the right setup you win, if its reversed you lose. This is assuming similar skills and pilot skills. For example, if you are flying a crow and have 1 tracking disruptor and your opponent is a terranis, the terranis dies. However, if he has a caldari racial jammer, you die. If he is using explosive and you are tanked to the hilt with against thermal, you die. So on and so forth. 1v1 pvp doesnt prove anything about pilot skill unless you are both in the sames ship with similar skills and the identical loadout. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:11:00 - [3] Crow, because nothing else can track it if the pilot is smart enough to stay out of web range.
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:12:00 - [4] Crow highs: 3 rocket launcher II's, 125mm rail II meds: mwd II, named web, 7.5km scram lows: 400mm rolled tungsten, 2x micro auxillary power thingy It's a good all rounder.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:29:00 - [5] Stiletto with ECM Barrage you know is more than 10km --------------- Vile - Recruiting 0.0 Pirates ---------------
M00dy	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:31:00 - [6] Crow beats everything in the game.
CB Apollo	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:33:00 - [7] Like always its caldari... CROW Please resize your signature, oh and I love you - Jacques
Evelina Yorg	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:34:00 - [8] Originally by: M00dy Crow beats everything in the game. Apart from few very specific setups... for instance crusader will probably pwn long range crow but then again, 2 medslots => crow warps.
Nedolzna Ovcica	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:38:00 - [9] railranis with half decent pilot will wtfpwn anyone.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:38:00 - [10] Originally by: M00dy Crow beats everything in the game. Ishkur > Crow. (fly my pretties!) Though if you meant only within interceptors, yeah. Especially against taranis pilots that forget that they have a pair of light drones. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:42:00 - [11] Originally by: Nedolzna Ovcica railranis with half decent pilot will wtfpwn anyone. shh... High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:43:00 - [12] I use a Claw and usually it's a draw with a long range Crow - I can't get near him but I can manoeuvre enough to warp away. Taranis's are evil 1 on 1 - if they get into their optimal fast you die. I love my claw tho - fast as hell, the damage output is lush and getting nossed to hell doesn't affect your damage one bit. Max
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:43:00 - [13] Edited by: LUKEC on 12/06/2006 14:43:21 Originally by: Nedolzna Ovcica railranis with half decent pilot will wtfpwn anyone. Yes sure... we know that is true... :P Apart from crusader, ac claw and any crow, but that are minor details. --------- Dead already?
RedWyvern	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:43:00 - [14] I <3 the Ares. >.> <.< runs -------------------------------------------------- Loyalty, Integrity, Honour.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:47:00 - [15] Originally by: RedWyvern I <3 the Ares. >.> <.< runs Before caldari people realized that rockets suck, it was actually very useful inty:P It required good piloting though. --------- Dead already?
Ozzie Asrail	Posted - 2006.06.12 14:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Nedolzna Ovcica railranis with half decent pilot will wtfpwn anyone. shh... I lost a 1v1 in a crow to a railranis. Pretty mean with a t2 drones also. Mind you I do suck so much flying them that i have to buy my inties in 10 packs or i run out too quickly ----- Geotech is recruiting!
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:05:00 - [17] Originally by: CB Apollo Like always its caldari... CROW Crow is best for inty vs inty. For general use, probably no.t
Matsuo Masato	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:13:00 - [18] ECM Stiletto pwns all..
Xianthar	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:19:00 - [19] Crow 3 x TII standards 1 x gisti mwd, 1 x TS disrupter(27km) (or domi), 1 cap 2 1 nano, 1 BCU II, 1 cap power relay snake implants i think that would be the meanest 1v1 cepter setup. or you could run the standard 400MM plated rocket crow with a gisti and a dom webber (15km) that would be mean aswell. -xian
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:28:00 - [20] Hands down the crow. About the only way to really beat a long range crow is to have significantly more speed, which is very difficult as the long range crow can devote all his lows to speed if he wants.
Krist Valentine	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:36:00 - [21] Probably crow - but if you only plan on fighting frigates for your entire time in the game (t1 or t2) then you don't have much planned. Crusader is a sweet ship, I've seen a crusader solo a brutix+ drones (lyticus:a pirate's life). - - - - - I hate pointless sigs.
Krist Valentine	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:36:00 - [22] Probably crow - but if you only plan on fighting frigates for your entire time in the game (t1 or t2) then you don't have much planned. Crusader is a sweet ship, I've seen a crusader solo a brutix+ drones (lyticus:a pirate's life). - - - - - I hate pointless sigs.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:45:00 - [23] Assuming no ECM, he who can dictate range wins.
Leon 026	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:46:00 - [24] All other inties are so under-rated. ------------------------------- [20:05:51] Cyshade > Leon 026, making Crow BPO owners trillionaires since 29.08.2005
Mordocik	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:49:00 - [25] Originally by: Krist Valentine Probably crow - but if you only plan on fighting frigates for your entire time in the game (t1 or t2) then you don't have much planned. Crusader is a sweet ship, I've seen a crusader solo a brutix+ drones (lyticus:a pirate's life). Pretty much any interceptor can solo any ship in game .. there is only one question, can it break the targets tank. In most cases the answer is going to be no if the target has any kind of a tank fitted at all, especially if the target is in a much bigger ship like a BS / BC. The reality is though that a LOT of people run around in pure gank setups and consequently have next to no tank, if an inty can get under their guns / past their defences, then they die. I have killed at lot of BS's solo or with another inty friend, this is not something limited to one inty type, but rather setups on the victims ship.
Rells	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:50:00 - [26] Originally by: ElCoCo Assuming no ECM, he who can dictate range wins. Why on earth would a competent pilot assume no ECM ? ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.06.12 15:59:00 - [27] Originally by: Rells Originally by: ElCoCo Assuming no ECM, he who can dictate range wins. Why on earth would a competent pilot assume no ECM ? I'm not saying you should assume the other guy has no ECM hehe But since it's up to luck for ecm to work, I like to calculate my chances without it in the equasion
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.06.12 16:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Rells Originally by: ElCoCo Assuming no ECM, he who can dictate range wins. Why on earth would a competent pilot assume no ECM ? Ship scanner? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Ganks maketh the pilot.
Rells	Posted - 2006.06.12 16:55:00 - [29] Originally by: ElCoCo Originally by: Rells Originally by: ElCoCo Assuming no ECM, he who can dictate range wins. Why on earth would a competent pilot assume no ECM ? I'm not saying you should assume the other guy has no ECM hehe But since it's up to luck for ecm to work, I like to calculate my chances without it in the equasion Its up to luck for your setup to work at all. Just try to make the best damage versus tank that you can and leave the rest to luck. I would suggest getting in a frigate gang instead. Much more fun. ◄ PvP University: Isnt it time you learned how to fight back?
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:06:00 - [30] taranis: 1xlight ionII, 2xelectons II, small nos, or 2xions instead of electons and no nos: mwd, 90% web, scrambler, 200mm plate, EANM II, AUX and most important 2xlight ECM drones, have no problem jamming intys, alot ------------------------------------- What you gonna do, when I come for yoU!? -------------------------------------
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:08:00 - [31] Edited by: Frakri Hogsto on 12/06/2006 17:09:05 Originally by: Rells Originally by: Samoht Nenik Edited by: Samoht Nenik on 12/06/2006 14:05:24 Hi don't have much experience flying Interceptors, but which one do you consider best for fighting against other ceptors? Are 400mm plates worth fitting for this? 1v1 PvP in Eve is more than half luck. If you catch the other guy in the wrong setup and you in the right setup you win, if its reversed you lose. This is assuming similar skills and pilot skills. For example, if you are flying a crow and have 1 tracking disruptor and your opponent is a terranis, the terranis dies. However, if he has a caldari racial jammer, you die. If he is using explosive and you are tanked to the hilt with against thermal, you die. So on and so forth. 1v1 pvp doesnt prove anything about pilot skill unless you are both in the sames ship with similar skills and the identical loadout. lol...how do you loose taranis to crow that have tracking disturber? you either MWD+web away, and warp, or warp, or he's going 500m/s oh and while we at it, learn to PvP, be4 you teach others ------------------------------------- What you gonna do, when I come for yoU!? -------------------------------------
Soros	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:15:00 - [32] Every single one of you is wrong. it is not possible to define the 'best' interceptor. ANY ceptor can kill ANY ceptor. You just have to fly what your skillset and piloting ability allows and what you feel you can win most easily in.
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Soros Every single one of you is wrong. it is not possible to define the 'best' interceptor. ANY ceptor can kill ANY ceptor. You just have to fly what your skillset and piloting ability allows and what you feel you can win most easily in. Sums up nice. However, 2x medslots = bad. It is reflected in price. You need web and scrambler after rmr, if you want to kill something that didn't lag out. I will spank any taranis, if i fit web on crusader, but i cannot prevent him to warp. And without web, he can run away with web + mwd away and hitting it is much harder (also you cannot keep him away... ). 2 medslots = 4tl. And the only intys that can live without web are ares and crow, as soon as you fit guns, you want web there. --------- Dead already?
Hakuin	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Soros Every single one of you is wrong. it is not possible to define the 'best' interceptor. ANY ceptor can kill ANY ceptor. You just have to fly what your skillset and piloting ability allows and what you feel you can win most easily in. I agree. But...in my experience: rockets > autocannons > blasters > pulses on inties. Pretty obvious why? (and yes I have small pulse spec. to lvl 4 )
Hakuin	Posted - 2006.06.12 17:53:00 - [35] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Soros Every single one of you is wrong. it is not possible to define the 'best' interceptor. ANY ceptor can kill ANY ceptor. You just have to fly what your skillset and piloting ability allows and what you feel you can win most easily in. Sums up nice. However, 2x medslots = bad. It is reflected in price. You need web and scrambler after rmr, if you want to kill something that didn't lag out. I will spank any taranis, if i fit web on crusader, but i cannot prevent him to warp. And without web, he can run away with web + mwd away and hitting it is much harder (also you cannot keep him away... ). 2 medslots = 4tl. And the only intys that can live without web are ares and crow, as soon as you fit guns, you want web there. You can always fit jagerbomb setup on both claw/crusader, but I suppouse you know that alredy . Btw I still prefer 2 medslots inties because I just love to have 4 lowslots (I dont fly inties only for doing 1vs1 duel vs other inties). Oh and low prices 4tw
Moksha	Posted - 2006.06.12 18:39:00 - [36] What's a jagerbomb set-up? And how did it get its name?
Matsuo Masato	Posted - 2006.06.12 19:30:00 - [37] jagerbomb set up is a claw (or any 2 mid ceptor) with warp jammer and web in mids, 400m, dmg mod, armor rep and resistance module in lows and teh biggest guns you can fit in highs it got its name from a player called drunkenone who made several movies using jagerbomb claw... Signature to big, check rules for the proper size - Acario Vitomeeh smaller sig fixed dont nerf this one its only 20kb
Cohkka	Posted - 2006.06.12 21:28:00 - [38] It's up to the pilot in my opinion. A good Crow pilot will most likely pwn a good pilot in any other inty, but mind you, there aren't many good pilots around... Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5...
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2006.06.12 21:33:00 - [39] Originally by: Cohkka Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5..... omeega, is that you? ------------------------------------- What you gonna do, when I come for yoU!? -------------------------------------

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