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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.14 18:34:00 -
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/op signed (you took your bloody time writing it!!!)
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Posted - 2006.06.14 19:17:00 -
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it wouldn't have been so bad if it was 10% optimal and 5% damage. but with 4 turrets and no damage bonus, it was a joke :/
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.14 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 14/06/2006 21:29:59
 Originally by: Mila Prestoc
Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: Sarmaul
/op signed (you took your bloody time writing it!!!)
Took your time replying too. 4 pages down!
I'm sure he wanted the 100th post or something before it came up to his standard of topic to post in.
I didn't even realise it was the 100th post, and I was in London all day yesterday so I couldn't reply to the thread 
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Posted - 2006.06.14 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mila Prestoc
Doh! Well i'm going to London tommorow so you can take over and push these changes ^_- I expect a Dev post by time I come back next week and nothing less!
I would, but I'm currently on a personal crusade to make Khanid useful :)
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Posted - 2006.06.16 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 16/06/2006 20:48:48
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
id love to see the numbers to back that up
base phoon dps with dual 425mm ac t2 x 4, siege launcer t2 x 4 and ogre IIs: 736
base raven dps with siege launcher t2 x 6 and ogre IIs: 547
Throw in rage torps and it's 855 for the phoon and 725 for the raven. Somehow find a workable setup using Hail ammo and the phoon hits 921 dps. That's without damage mods, but you will need some serious target paining to get the full DPS from it (same can be said the Raven).
Fit 3 damage mods on both ships and the phoon still stays ahead in the DPS game until about 20km, where the raven takes over.
That is all assuming maxed skills and a 5% missile rof bonus for the phoon.
As for it being only Tier1, the Dominix and Armageddon are also tier1, and outdamage their teir2 counterparts.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.16 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Aloysius Knight
what about with scouts and arbi launchers? 
I don't dare ask naughty boy to add meta items to the DB :). T2 autos take ages to train, but T2 torps just need Torps 5.
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Posted - 2006.06.16 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
what about with scouts and arbi launchers?
I don't dare ask naughty boy to add meta items to the DB :). T2 autos take ages to train, but T2 torps just need Torps 5.
minni dread winks happily
what ya think is more skill intense, naglfar or typhoon? 
the really depressing thing about that question is that there is no easy answer :/
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Posted - 2006.06.16 21:24:00 -
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By the looks of the minmatar tier3, it's going to be 8/6/6 which will give us a shield tanker.
Don't forget that the Typhoon has to use all 8 high slots to kick out that much damage, while the Raven only uses 6 and can fit nos/neuts in.
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Posted - 2006.06.16 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aloysius Knight
ohhhh so people use blasters on a dommi?
Some people do, yes (electrons).
Of course, not everyone is going to use 425mms + torps, some might use cruise and so on, but when comparing max damage you generally fill as many high slots as possible.
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Posted - 2006.06.18 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 18/06/2006 16:18:32
the phoon is about 300pg short of fitting 425mm ac II x 4, arbi siege x 4, mwd x 1, cap booster x 1 and twin large accom reps :/
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Posted - 2006.06.18 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Sarmaul
Edited by: Sarmaul on 18/06/2006 16:18:32
the phoon is about 300pg short of fitting 425mm ac II x 4, arbi siege x 4, mwd x 1, cap booster x 1 and twin large accom reps :/
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What if you use the next step down on the guns? The damage difference might not be that big...
Exactly. It's Dual 425mm -> Dual 650mm -> 800mm
dual 425 are the lowest tier already, unless you propose to fit cruiser guns 
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Posted - 2006.06.22 11:52:00 -
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bump
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