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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.06.11 14:10:00 -
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2014/06/09/fda-may-destroy-american-artisan-cheese-industry/
We can't even start a convo about gun control in the US, but these cheese boards are just too too dangerous........... "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Sieges
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Posted - 2014.06.11 14:55:00 -
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I like how it said Kraft is exempt because it doesn't "make cheese"...it "manufactures cheese" :) |
jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
608
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:01:00 -
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reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands ..I wonder how many people over the centuries have died having eaten cheese matured on a wood base ?. |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2166
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:15:00 -
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jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands ..I wonder how many people over the centuries have died having eaten cheese matured on a wood base ?.
I can guarantee you that EVERYONE who has eaten cheese matured on a wooden base has (or will at some point) die. The same applies to drinking water and breathing air. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Grimpak
Shifting Sands Trader Cartel Bleak Horizon Alliance.
1572
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:18:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands ..I wonder how many people over the centuries have died having eaten cheese matured on a wood base ?. I can guarantee you that EVERYONE who has eaten cheese matured on a wooden base has (or will at some point) die. The same applies to drinking water and breathing air. p much this. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
111060
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:08:00 -
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Sieges wrote:I like how it said Kraft is exempt because it doesn't "make cheese"...it "manufactures cheese" :)
Yeah....like that horrible "powdered Parmesan" in those green cans. Yuck !
The huge food conglomerates just have to be behind this somehow..........the artisinal food movement terrifies them. That food is real, and the conglomerates have forgotten how to make anything real. But....all those chemicals and preservatives definitely do no harm... "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
6957
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:31:00 -
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Cheese isn't a Constitutional right, notably. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
111060
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:48:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Cheese isn't a Constitutional right, notably.
So, you support the 74 school shootings since Sandy Hook last year ????
Ugh.
It was a joke dude. You swung it over to politics.
But whatever. I guess you feel better and superior. Go cry over it all with your militia. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Lido Seahawk
Norr Amalgamated Industries
108
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
So, you support the 74 school shootings since Sandy Hook last year ????
Ugh.
It was a joke dude. You swung it over to politics.
But whatever. I guess you feel better and superior. Go cry over it all with your militia.
You put gun control and cheese in the same sentence, and then complain when it gets political? lol! Since when can anyone say "gun" these days without it going political? Can I have your stuff? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11887
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:00:00 -
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American cheese isnt cheese. There are melted tyres with better taste and texture which is why that stuff is banned in the EU. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11348
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Posted - 2014.06.11 22:20:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:American cheese isnt cheese. There are melted tyres with better taste and texture which is why that stuff is banned in the EU. You're talking about the processed stuff which doesn't actually qualify as cheese (like Hershey's doesn't actually make chocolate). There are regional and local cheese makers that make actual cheese (not for export) that starts to approach the quality of cheese in Europe (though the no-raw-milk restriction will always prevent them from getting there).
These regional and local cheeses are actually "food" as opposed to product. The illegal FDA imposition, if they were to stick to it, would kill the real-food cheese makers dead.
That said, I'd shrug and buy the imported stuff anyway. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |
De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2170
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Posted - 2014.06.12 11:26:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:
That said, I'd shrug and buy the imported stuff anyway.
Actually, if the FDA had stuck to their guns, you wouldn't be able to. It would have been illegal to sell the imported varieties too. Fortunately, someone over there saw the writing on the wall (read, enough people got upset that someone's job was in jeopardy about this) and they back pedaled faster than a mime on a unicycle. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
111061
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Posted - 2014.06.12 12:25:00 -
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Lido Seahawk wrote:
You put gun control and cheese in the same sentence, and then complain when it gets political? lol! Since when can anyone say "gun" these days without it going political?
Of course.
My statement was both a joke and a comparison about the imbalance of "issues".
Kaarous decided to "make his stand for his beliefs" on it by dragging in the more politically volatile "Constitutional Right" nonsense, specifically towards guns.
The onus is on him. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
111061
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Posted - 2014.06.12 12:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:American cheese isnt cheese. There are melted tyres with better taste and texture which is why that stuff is banned in the EU.
Velveeta is classified as a "Pasteurized Recipe Cheese Product". "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
119880
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Posted - 2014.06.12 12:38:00 -
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jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands
We used to have wars for this reason to thin their numbers.
And on this, does this mean the USA is going to ban the import of about half the cheeses made by traditional cheese mongers in Italy / Greece etc? Since they all mature on wooden boards. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
111061
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Posted - 2014.06.12 12:46:00 -
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Graygor wrote:jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands We used to have wars for this reason to thin their numbers. And on this, does this mean the USA is going to ban the import of about half the cheeses made by traditional cheese mongers in Italy / Greece etc? Since they all mature on wooden boards.
I don't think it's going to fly.
This is either someone at FDA "flexing their muscles", or an attempt by the likes of Kraft to sieze the market utterly. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
119886
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Posted - 2014.06.12 12:56:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands We used to have wars for this reason to thin their numbers. And on this, does this mean the USA is going to ban the import of about half the cheeses made by traditional cheese mongers in Italy / Greece etc? Since they all mature on wooden boards. I don't think it's going to fly. This is either someone at FDA "flexing their muscles", or an attempt by the likes of Kraft to sieze the market utterly.
I vote for the 2nd part tbh. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
2970
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Posted - 2014.06.12 13:23:00 -
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Graygor wrote:
I vote for the 2nd part tbh.
I would be interested in seeing the guys bank accounts. I would not be surprised if he had a large sum of money deposited recently from somewhere in the synthetic food industry.
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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11375
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Posted - 2014.06.12 13:51:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands We used to have wars for this reason to thin their numbers. And on this, does this mean the USA is going to ban the import of about half the cheeses made by traditional cheese mongers in Italy / Greece etc? Since they all mature on wooden boards. I don't think it's going to fly. This is either someone at FDA "flexing their muscles", or an attempt by the likes of Kraft to sieze the market utterly. I vote for the 2nd part tbh. Nah... Regulators have gone bananas with power under the current administration. FDA, FAA, EPA, IRS. Granted, many of the appointees to these bureaucracies came from the industries they are aimed at. Even so, this is a case of sufficiently advanced incompetence being indistinguishable from malice.
Edit: I'm sure there's a move to ban bananas afoot. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.06.12 14:20:00 -
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'Murica. Gotta love it.
Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime.
On the other hand, if you order a pastrami sandwich, you get 2mm thick slices of bread filled fith 5 inches of hot meat. And sauce. Covered in a mound of french fries. All of these products have been 'enriched' with corn syrup, and now contain twice the caloric value of the real article.
The cheese business was doing quite well in the US, much like the microbrewery scene. Too bad, it would have been nice to see the nation develop more taste. Sadly, the aerosol cheese business needs to increase their Q3 sales forecast, so a few mil to lobby the FDA, who cares. |
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De'Veldrin
Black Serpent Technologies The Unthinkables
2178
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Posted - 2014.06.12 17:15:00 -
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Handar Turiant wrote:'Murica. Gotta love it.
Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime.
Eh, don't let the news media sell that view. The paranoid OCD overmedicated victim-to-be persona that sells headlines is one that a lot of Americans (myself included) wish we could take out behind the woodshed and beat the **** out of. Unfortunately, we've let dumbasses run our nation for so long, we'd probably have to start a new one to fix everything that's wrong. GÇ£SandboxGÇ¥ does not mean that you will succeed at anything you attempt; it means you can attempt anything you want to succeed at. One of the largest obstacles in the way of your success is other players. |
jason hill
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
609
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:00:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Graygor wrote:jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands We used to have wars for this reason to thin their numbers. And on this, does this mean the USA is going to ban the import of about half the cheeses made by traditional cheese mongers in Italy / Greece etc? Since they all mature on wooden boards. I don't think it's going to fly. This is either someone at FDA "flexing their muscles", or an attempt by the likes of Kraft to sieze the market utterly. I vote for the 2nd part tbh.
well baring in mind what kraft (which is now considered an angram for cnuts here in the uk because of what they did to cadburys ) I wouldn't be surprised .
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
7921
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:53:00 -
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Sieges wrote:I like how it said Kraft is exempt because it doesn't "make cheese"...it "manufactures cheese" :) Well... Obama is Kraft Foods top contribution in recent years among politicians, so you were expectinggg.... ?
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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11391
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Posted - 2014.06.12 19:00:00 -
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Handar Turiant wrote:Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime. Funny you should mention tap water... In the town I now live in we've had two episodes of fecal bacteria poisoning at this-will-make-you-sick levels in the last year. And this is in the greater Boston area. You'll forgive me if I boil the water first.
I do worry what that's going to mean for my daughter's dental health if we keep her on bottled water (we're using that for formula right now). If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |
Malaclypse Muscaria
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
129
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Posted - 2014.06.12 19:16:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Nah... Regulators have gone bananas with power under the current administration. FDA, FAA, EPA, IRS. Granted, many of the appointees to these bureaucracies came from the industries they are aimed at. Even so, this is a case of sufficiently advanced incompetence being indistinguishable from malice.
Edit: I'm sure there's a move to ban bananas afoot.
I've been to the US many times during my life - I'm still a US citizen - from the Reagan administration to the current one, and regardless of who is in power, there's always been a common theme every time I've been there: most Americans really seem to love laws and rules and regulations.
Not everyone of course. And perhaps, many US residents may not be fully aware of this, just as a fish may not be aware of the water it's been surrounded by its entire life. But when I'm in the US, no matter where I go, no matter what I do, it's rules rules and more rules, regarding even the most silly things. Don't do this. Don't do that. This is forbidden. You shall be prosecuted to the full extent of the law (a phrase I always found strangely amusing). etc, etc, etc...
No other country is like that. I've also lived in Germany, but as much as they also love their rules there, it doesn't reach the preposterous level it does in the US.
I've been carded when trying to buy at beer at 38 years of age, with full beard, and then being denied it after producing a legal foreign ID because "We don't know what this ID is". I've been shouted at for having the temerity of diving into public swimming pools, for playing squash without the mandatory goggles, I've been harassed by cops simply for crossing a completely empty street at night through the spot I wasn't supposed to ("Jaywalking" they call it, a term I haven't encountered anywhere else). The list of personal anecdotes in this regard just goes on and on and on...
I believe this cultural love for laws and regulation Americans have, also manifests itself in the endless stream of American TV shows having to do with courts, laws and enforcement, or the ridiculous lawsuit-happy culture that seems to permeate every aspect of modern life in the US.
I'm not a libertarian - usually they just come across to me as nutjobs unhinged from reality - and I do believe *some* rational regulation is necessary, but after the personal experience of being constantly bombarded by rules and regulations one way or another every time I was in the US, I can understand and empathize where the libertarians are coming from.
That being said, and as others have pointed, this particular case of trying to forbid how real cheese is being produced and eaten daily by the rest of the civilized world, does stink of corporate interests meddling with politics.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3256
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Posted - 2014.06.12 22:01:00 -
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I'm not worried, there's still a good variety of safe cheeses around: individually wrapped Singles cheese slices, nacho cheese liquid from a 3-gallon plastic jar, and Cheez Whiz squirted out of a can. They're all about the same shade of orange, but the flavors are subtly different. "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
275
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:05:00 -
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Speaking of bacteria it has now been proven that you NEED to be "exposed to dirt" during the first years of your life to avoid allergies and such immunological disorders. However I wonder how much of it is because of excessive cleaning or because of generally using too much chemicals with "anti-bacterial" properties because I believe that bacteria (as with penicillin) will eventually become resistant to cleaning products "anti bacterial" agents. |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
119942
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Posted - 2014.06.13 07:24:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Sieges wrote:I like how it said Kraft is exempt because it doesn't "make cheese"...it "manufactures cheese" :) Well... Obama is Kraft Foods top contribution in recent years among politicians, so you were expectinggg.... ?
Not to mention kerry and the ketchup backing. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:37:00 -
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Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Nah... Regulators have gone bananas with power under the current administration. FDA, FAA, EPA, IRS. Granted, many of the appointees to these bureaucracies came from the industries they are aimed at. Even so, this is a case of sufficiently advanced incompetence being indistinguishable from malice.
Edit: I'm sure there's a move to ban bananas afoot. I've been to the US many times during my life - I'm still a US citizen - from the Reagan administration to the current one, and regardless of who is in power, there's always been a common theme every time I've been there: most Americans really seem to love laws and rules and regulations. Not everyone of course. And perhaps, many US residents may not be fully aware of this, just as a fish may not be aware of the water it's been surrounded by its entire life. But when I'm in the US, no matter where I go, no matter what I do, it's rules rules and more rules, regarding even the most silly things. Don't do this. Don't do that. This is forbidden. You shall be prosecuted to the full extent of the law (a phrase I always found strangely amusing). etc, etc, etc... No other country is like that. I've also lived in Germany, but as much as they also love their rules there, it doesn't reach the preposterous level it does in the US. I've been carded when trying to buy at beer at 38 years of age, with full beard, and then being denied it after producing a legal foreign ID because "We don't know what this ID is". I've been shouted at for having the temerity of diving into public swimming pools, for playing squash without the mandatory goggles, I've been harassed by cops simply for crossing a completely empty street at night through the spot I wasn't supposed to ("Jaywalking" they call it, a term I haven't encountered anywhere else). The list of personal anecdotes in this regard just goes on and on and on... I believe this cultural love for laws and regulation Americans have, also manifests itself in the endless stream of American TV shows having to do with courts, laws and enforcement, or the ridiculous lawsuit-happy culture that seems to permeate every aspect of modern life in the US. I'm not a libertarian - usually they just come across to me as nutjobs unhinged from reality - and I do believe *some* rational regulation is necessary, but after the personal experience of being constantly bombarded by rules and regulations one way or another every time I was in the US, I can understand and empathize where the libertarians are coming from. That being said, and as others have pointed, this particular case of trying to forbid how real cheese is being produced and eaten daily by the rest of the civilized world, does stink of corporate interests meddling with politics.
Litigation culture, not the love of law itself if you ask me. More than enough congressmen in the US equate regulation to communism and anti market practice, which is ludicrous of course: there is no such thing as a completely free market. I work with US customers all the time, large complex contracts. Legal rules everything, everyone is afraid of lawsuits. In Europe the contracts are detailed, but they don't try to cover every eventuality ad nauseam. There is still the understanding that you're entering into a business relationship, and that's the basis of working together.
On the civil side with the general populace, people suing for spilling hot coffee over themselves. Ambulance chasers, etc. This is what drives a large part of the regulation warnings you see in everyday life (you will prosecuted etc...). Fall on the street over a loose tile? Sue the city, and get paid!
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
111067
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:30:00 -
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Handar Turiant wrote:
Litigation culture, not the love of law itself if you ask me. More than enough congressmen in the US equate regulation to communism and anti market practice, which is ludicrous of course: there is no such thing as a completely free market. I work with US customers all the time, large complex contracts. Legal rules everything, everyone is afraid of lawsuits. In Europe the contracts are detailed, but they don't try to cover every eventuality ad nauseam. There is still the understanding that you're entering into a business relationship, and that's the basis of working together.
On the civil side with the general populace, people suing for spilling hot coffee over themselves. Ambulance chasers, etc. This is what drives a large part of the regulation warnings you see in everyday life (you will prosecuted etc...). Fall on the street over a loose tile? Sue the city, and get paid!
My favorite is the label on baby strollers:
"Remove child before collapsing stroller".
This was apparently a common and deadly issue. People's own stupidity is reason for our litigious society. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11926
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:39:00 -
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Ila Dace wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime. Funny you should mention tap water... In the town I now live in we've had two episodes of fecal bacteria poisoning at this-will-make-you-sick levels in the last year. And this is in the greater Boston area. You'll forgive me if I boil the water first. I do worry what that's going to mean for my daughter's dental health if we keep her on bottled water (we're using that for formula right now).
I do wonder why America isn't rioting on the streets given that its governments can't even provide safe, clean drinking water. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
246
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Posted - 2014.06.15 03:02:00 -
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It ain't easy bein' cheesy.
Cheese and pickles.
Oh yeah, nachos with cheese and Coke. And salsa and all that stuff.
Eggs n' cheese.
Lasagna.
Edit: Grilled cheese sandwich. Dip it in ketchup makes the greatest sandwich in the world even better. I adore the ***** who calls herself Reality. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3262
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Posted - 2014.06.16 18:30:00 -
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Victory for the blessed cheesemakers!
Man: I think it was, "Blessed are the cheesemakers"! Gregory's wife: What's so special about the cheesemakers? Gregory: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturer of dairy products. "Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
133
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Posted - 2014.06.16 22:38:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ila Dace wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:Paranoid fear of any tapwater, grilling their meat stone cold cuz germs, napkins with everything. Hosophobia is a national pasttime. Funny you should mention tap water... In the town I now live in we've had two episodes of fecal bacteria poisoning at this-will-make-you-sick levels in the last year. And this is in the greater Boston area. You'll forgive me if I boil the water first. I do worry what that's going to mean for my daughter's dental health if we keep her on bottled water (we're using that for formula right now). I do wonder why America isn't rioting on the streets given that its governments can't even provide safe, clean drinking water.
Keep it down over there, Honey Boo Boo is on.
The problem is that we are surrounded by sheep here in the US. They take personal responsibility for absolutely nothing, not even their children. "Land of the Free" is just a marketing slogan, a horse that got sent to the glue factory back in the 70s. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
8073
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Posted - 2014.06.17 01:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I do wonder why America isn't rioting on the streets given that its governments can't even provide safe, clean drinking water. Why we don't riot over more government intrusion and takeover? We do, remember the whole dumping of the tea into the harbor and all that following stuff that happened? Riot over government not controlling us enough? I don't think so... |
Leezir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.06.17 02:03:00 -
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De'Veldrin wrote:jason hill wrote:reading the content of that article just says to me that some people just have toooooo much time on their hands ..I wonder how many people over the centuries have died having eaten cheese matured on a wood base ?. I can guarantee you that EVERYONE who has eaten cheese matured on a wooden base has (or will at some point) die. The same applies to drinking water and breathing air.
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