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Heinky	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:37:00 - [151] I wasnt there but. There is no rule that says u cant carry as many bm,s as u want in cargo but i doubt anyone was doing that anyway. And if Col , Se or Rat would have brought a fleet of t1 frigs to atteck the ships at the pos theres also nothing that says u cant fly a t1 frig in a fight. So if any of your claims are true witch i doubt , theres nothing bannable about it.
Gloria Lithnars	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:37:00 - [152] Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Gloria Lithnars Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Gloria Lithnars Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Marogian The GM probably just checked every person who was logged off in that system for bookmarks, most of the people involved in the fight had logged off by the time he arrived. I reckon he sent eve-mails to everybody he found with bookmarks, probably more than just that one character. Are you ******* stupid? He was never logged on until way AFTER the fight, he was never online while you were in system until after it. The fact he recieved a warning proves you were doing something not allowed. I'll make a guess here (which you will no doubt smack away at) that he was a pilot who had left some of the vigils at the POS with 1000's of BM's on board. He does not have to be online for that. Frankly if it was only 1 pilot who recieved a mere warning then you guys got off easy. I suspect it was more but you have already proved yourself liars by denying promoting lag then admitting to getting a warning for it. AHAHAHAH, you just shot down your point. Bookmarks inside the vigils right? They were inside the pos, WHICH MEANS YOU COULDN'T HAVE LOCKED THEM AND SCANNED THEM. Guess what that means? YOUR LIEING. That's your best defence? Please, I didn't say an ascn member scanned them. HAHAHAHA, YOU JUST BLEW IT EVEN MORE. COLLECTIVE CANT EITHER LOCK THEM YOU NUB. All right then, you explain why you got at least 1 warning for intentionally promoting lag? Maybe the Gm's have alts in ASCN? It was not only the vigils which had bm's in them either. You are correct in saying the vigils were not scanned. Meh, the point has been made - make of it what you will.
Marogian	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:38:00 - [153] I imagine he did it at some point when you were outside of the forcefield, in fact I'd have to ASSUME it was at such a point. You'd have to ask him
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:39:00 - [154] Dont bookmarks cause lag only if the ship pops and a can is created? In that case either theres killmails with lots of bookmarks on them, or there arent. - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
Lord Morkoth	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:39:00 - [155] IF A GM FINDS A SINGLE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE THAT CLAIMS THAT WE OR A SINGLE COLLECTIVE MEMBER WAS USING AN EXPLOIT TO OUR ADVANTAGE, I PROMISE I WILL QUIT EVE RIGHT AWAY, THATS HOW SURE I AM OF OUR INTEGRITY. -sland bezt f heimi <=> The Collective
Cpt Azrael	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:41:00 - [156] Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Gloria Lithnars Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Gloria Lithnars Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Marogian The GM probably just checked every person who was logged off in that system for bookmarks, most of the people involved in the fight had logged off by the time he arrived. I reckon he sent eve-mails to everybody he found with bookmarks, probably more than just that one character. Are you ******* stupid? He was never logged on until way AFTER the fight, he was never online while you were in system until after it. The fact he recieved a warning proves you were doing something not allowed. I'll make a guess here (which you will no doubt smack away at) that he was a pilot who had left some of the vigils at the POS with 1000's of BM's on board. He does not have to be online for that. Frankly if it was only 1 pilot who recieved a mere warning then you guys got off easy. I suspect it was more but you have already proved yourself liars by denying promoting lag then admitting to getting a warning for it. AHAHAHAH, you just shot down your point. Bookmarks inside the vigils right? They were inside the pos, WHICH MEANS YOU COULDN'T HAVE LOCKED THEM AND SCANNED THEM. Guess what that means? YOUR LIEING. That's your best defence? Please, I didn't say an ascn member scanned them. HAHAHAHA, YOU JUST BLEW IT EVEN MORE. COLLECTIVE CANT EITHER LOCK THEM YOU NUB. This is the kinda guy at a party you just know will talk about pwning some nub with a glock 17 (ibis) and the girls slowly shift away from him still smiling........ keep it up mate, im laughing my ass off at your retarded posts can i have some proper l337 speak possibly? maybe call yourself 'wUn L337 dUd3' or something terribly comical? Entertainment for the masses
Icarus100	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:41:00 - [157] Edited by: Icarus100 on 18/06/2006 00:44:56
Zeveron	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:42:00 - [158] Originally by: Icarus100 Originally by: Marogian It wasn't during the fleet fight, it was before we engaged. And this guy had switched into a ship from his fleet ship to do the scanning. No need for personal attacks. How the **** did you scan us when we were inside the forcefield? and can usiply explain the rolle of all those vigils in such a battlefield? or its confidential?
Gloria Lithnars	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:43:00 - [159] Originally by: Lord Morkoth IF A GM FINDS A SINGLE SHREAD OF EVIDENCE THAT CLAIMS THAT WE OR A SINGLE COLLECTIVE MEMBER WAS USING AN EXPLOIT TO OUR ADVANTAGE, I PROMISE I WILL QUIT EVE RIGHT AWAY, THATS HOW SURE I AM OF OUR INTEGRITY. Originally by: Harry Ramo our member got this mail 2006.06.17 23:37 You have been reported for creating lag to gain an advantage. That is against our rules and will not be tolerated. Cease all such activity or risk further repercussions. Theres your evidence. Can I have your stuff?
Marogian	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:43:00 - [160] Gob, we didn't manage to kill a great deal of ships before we disengaged. And the lag doesn't just come from popping the cans, you lag when you load the grid due to having to load everything in the cargo holds of every ship on the grid. So if 5 random ships have 1000 BMs each then you have to load 5000 BMs before the grid loads. And as said previously, this could be anyone in Collective, SE or RAT. The GMs are unlikely to reveal how many other people were warned and from what corps they're from, so there's really no way to know.

Icarus100	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:44:00 - [161] Edited by: Icarus100 on 18/06/2006 00:44:48
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:44:00 - [162] You guys are pathetic, you lost. GET OVER IT.
Icarus100	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:44:00 - [163] Edited by: Icarus100 on 18/06/2006 00:45:04
Harry Ramo	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:45:00 - [164] WE made a fraps all the time form 2 or 3 locations ther you can see when the cap-ships warp in then Col warp in then Rat&SE warp in and then the great comander of that hostile fleet warp all ther suport Close range on our Pos Reel good move then we all warp out agen (lag so much you go no activation) and then when our pos had kill most of ther suport and ther cap ship in our bubbles we came in for a final stike wich whas easy. cap ships with no suport on a pos with 28 turrets bubbled to hell it whas a fun to se howc you never had a chanse of killing us, never will, geting your reel life frends Gm to help you out is just amazing and provers only how much you suck at All but sucking on Stones and gm WE will not rest until ALL OF ASCN AND AXE AR BACK IN EMPYER!!!! We are The Collective Keep crying and I will Give you some thing cry about!!!! Harry ramo
Shifu	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:48:00 - [165] Originally by: Marogian Actually, an ASCN member had scanned some ships and found them to be holding alot of bookmarks. Unfortunately I have no idea which ships and who's, it could be anyone in Collective, RAT or SE. And there's no way to know if any other characters(from any corp) got warnings, I doubt they'd admit if they had. maybe these ascn members have scaned own cargo kettle meet pot? Have it ever occured to you that those t1 frigs were replacement ships for SE pilots who were going to lose their ships in a battle? The world doesn't rotate around you
Icarus100	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:49:00 - [166] Originally by: Marogian It wasn't during the fleet fight, it was before we engaged. And this guy had switched into a ship from his fleet ship to do the scanning. No need for personal attacks. Sorry for the personal thing, it was way over line and not like me, but I'm really fed up with this bullcrap atm
Marogian	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:50:00 - [167] Edited by: Marogian on 18/06/2006 00:54:16 Originally by: Harry Ramo WE made a fraps all the time form 2 or 3 locations ther you can see when the cap-ships warp in then Col warp in then Rat&SE warp in and then the great comander of that hostile fleet warp all ther suport Close range on our Pos Reel good move then we all warp out agen (lag so much you go no activation) and then when our pos had kill most of ther suport and ther cap ship in our bubbles we came in for a final stike wich whas easy. cap ships with no suport on a pos with 28 turrets bubbled to hell it whas a fun to se howc you never had a chanse of killing us, never will, geting your reel life frends Gm to help you out is just amazing and provers only how much you suck at All but sucking on Stones and gm WE will not rest until ALL OF ASCN AND AXE AR BACK IN EMPYER!!!! We are The Collective Keep crying and I will Give you some thing cry about!!!! Harry ramo Fraps footage does not reveal whether you had ships filled with BMs.
Gloria Lithnars	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:53:00 - [168] Originally by: Icarus100 Originally by: Marogian It wasn't during the fleet fight, it was before we engaged. And this guy had switched into a ship from his fleet ship to do the scanning. No need for personal attacks. Sorry for the personal thing, it was way over line and not like me, but I'm really fed up with this bullcrap atm Even though it was not aimed at me its good to see some sense between us all here . The thread has degraded too much, fed up with all the garbage also. Booo to the forums in general & sorry for spamming some. Gloria out.
ramelof	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:53:00 - [169] some bookmarks in cargo killed fleet of ASCn/axe
Marogian	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:54:00 - [170] Originally by: Shifu Originally by: Marogian Actually, an ASCN member had scanned some ships and found them to be holding alot of bookmarks. Unfortunately I have no idea which ships and who's, it could be anyone in Collective, RAT or SE. And there's no way to know if any other characters(from any corp) got warnings, I doubt they'd admit if they had. maybe these ascn members have scaned own cargo kettle meet pot? Have it ever occured to you that those t1 frigs were replacement ships for SE pilots who were going to lose their ships in a battle? The world doesn't rotate around you Of course its possible that we accidently scanned ourselves, if thats true I'm sure the GM who checked the system for BM-loaded ships will come and spank us soon And yes, I think most rational people have accepted that the ships were probably there for replacements, the accusation was that people were jettying t1 frigs full of BMs just as we warped in. Shrug.

Crucifier	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:57:00 - [171] My apologies to the public, i was way over the line.
Creamster	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:57:00 - [172] Ouch what a flame attack and here i was thinking that 4 dreadnauts were not a big deal for ascn. Also Marogian you sure know lots about lag generation, been there done that uh? ___________ In LAG we trust
Icarus100	Posted - 2006.06.18 00:58:00 - [173] Originally by: Marogian Originally by: Shifu Originally by: Marogian Actually, an ASCN member had scanned some ships and found them to be holding alot of bookmarks. Unfortunately I have no idea which ships and who's, it could be anyone in Collective, RAT or SE. And there's no way to know if any other characters(from any corp) got warnings, I doubt they'd admit if they had. maybe these ascn members have scaned own cargo kettle meet pot? Have it ever occured to you that those t1 frigs were replacement ships for SE pilots who were going to lose their ships in a battle? The world doesn't rotate around you Of course its possible that we accidently scanned ourselves, if thats true I'm sure the GM who checked the system for BM-loaded ships will come and spank us soon And yes, I think most rational people have accepted that the ships were probably there for replacements, the accusation was that people were jettying t1 frigs full of BMs just as we warped in. Shrug. Negative on that, those ships have been there for couple of days, so your covert ops pilot really should have told you and you could've reported it before you warped in. So I guess it's just some of your guys that can't accept the fact that they lost ships ;<
Marogian	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:00:00 - [174] Originally by: Creamster Ouch what a flame attack and here i was thinking that 4 dreadnauts were not a big deal for ascn. Also Marogian you sure know lots about lag generation, been there done that uh? Umm, no?
Mitch Manus	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:00:00 - [175] Originally by: Crucifier My apologies to the public, i was way over the line. ♥
Lord Morkoth	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:02:00 - [176] reasons for vigils @ pos: nr1: the vigil is a fast , very cheap and reliable tackler to use if u lose ur main ship nr2: it would have normally been in corp hangar but at the time it was full, gm's check logs. we were lagged too, and who with a decent common sense would cause lag which affects us too when we are fighting much larger force and need skills and stratting to win. It would be really bad to not be able to do anything when there is a much larger force going to pwn us -sland bezt f heimi <=> The Collective
Marogian	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:06:00 - [177] Just to get it straight, the accusation was never against your corp specifically, just some ships in the fleet consisting of your corp, SE and RAT had large amounts of bookmarks in the hold and were apparently trying to increase lag. The benefit of this is clear, we warped to your POS...We were lagged out for 6 minutes, its possible you were too. The problem came from the fact that POS towers don't lag out, it continued firing for the entire time we were loading and destroyed rather alot of stuff. A GM came, issued warnings to those he felt were exploiting, those corps who received warnings know it. If the GM decides that there was indeed crazy amounts of lag due to several people with excessive numbers of bookmarks in holds then they might reimburse losses. And those corps who did receive warnings, lame.
SwitchBl4d3	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:14:00 - [178] i have deep h8 for anyone who isnt honorable Celestial Veteran Warhorse/part Beanflicker "The lord of Nonni"
Entilzah Valen	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:24:00 - [179] Bookmarks! WMD! Bookmarks! WMD! ____________________________ A Haiku by Heraklitus Nomidzon Outbreak Guns Glowing Pod Fluid Turning Yellow The Gate is Too Far
Shifu	Posted - 2006.06.18 01:30:00 - [180] Originally by: Marogian Just to get it straight, the accusation was never against your corp specifically, just some ships in the fleet consisting of your corp, SE and RAT had large amounts of bookmarks in the hold and were apparently trying to increase lag. The benefit of this is clear, we warped to your POS...We were lagged out for 6 minutes, its possible you were too. The problem came from the fact that POS towers don't lag out, it continued firing for the entire time we were loading and destroyed rather alot of stuff. A GM came, issued warnings to those he felt were exploiting, those corps who received warnings know it. If the GM decides that there was indeed crazy amounts of lag due to several people with excessive numbers of bookmarks in holds then they might reimburse losses. And those corps who did receive warnings, lame. Sure Gm's should investigate this and sure using lag generator's lame, but it's kind of funny that it was lag that saved your capital fleet... You should've lost all of your dreads and carriers. Unfortunately the majority of our pilots got several minutes delays as well, pretty much the only reason that prevented us from destroying your fleet. Also yesterday we had exact the same problems in AZN when jumping in into your fleet, killmails show 4-5 pilots on a ship which is insane when it had been called primary for a gang of 30+ battleships. So should I go ahead and accuse you of lag exploiting? Why are you're whining about something that you use?



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