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Elusive Panda
Gendry's Leech
Eternal Pretorian Alliance
34
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Posted - 2014.06.13 15:55:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
What is the point?
You really don't get it, his priorities are not: "How can I make the most money in the shortest amount of time so I can buy bigger ship that cost more money so I can make even more money and buy a bigger ship"
It's: "How can I PvP and keep myself in PvP ship without having to farm or do boring PvE stuff"
So yes, join FW and just PvP in plexes, try to wait out timer if they're about to finish, you'll fund your PvP and then some.
The only problem with joining a FW faction is that you get a bunch of "blues" that you shoudn't shoot. Stay neutral and you can shoot everybody, but then no ISKies. |
Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
0
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:10:00 -
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Hmm... Yeah, I'll consider FW a possibility, Or possibly try null ratting. With a few of my ships in neutral stations. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5307
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:13:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need. Missioning is more cost effective and quicker though Less AFK tho.
Cant say Id ever recommend AFK anything to anyone
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
14296
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:22:00 -
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I usually fly around, looking for unsuspecting people and jump on them without warning, or ask in local for a 1v1. If im really desperate ill purposely mouth off a little and upset someone until they lash out wildly...
Oh wait.. "funding my PvP". I thought this was another "Finding PvP" thread.
I was way off.
Ignore me. Im loopy from lack of sleep pulling an all nighter in the office. Overloading the coffee modules as we speak.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2264
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:35:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need. Missioning is more cost effective and quicker though Less AFK tho. Cant say Id ever recommend AFK anything to anyone
I'd just do it like when I wait for ganks to happen.
Have the overview visible on the side of the screen and do something else.
Haven't even started mining yet, not sure I actually want to. xD
The case of the bottomless dress.
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Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok
Circle-Of-Two
15
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Posted - 2014.06.13 16:44:00 -
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If you do FW, just watch out for people like me trying to ruin your day :D, anyways I have a PI setup going that will give me about 180mil/month/character and most of the work is just setting it up, only have to restart the miners once every 3 days and take 5 minutes to haul everyday.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5311
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Posted - 2014.06.13 18:03:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
I'd just do it like when I wait for ganks to happen.
Have the overview visible on the side of the screen and do something else.
Then thats not AFK, silly
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Prince Kobol
1946
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Posted - 2014.06.13 18:37:00 -
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Elusive Panda wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
What is the point?
You really don't get it, his priorities are not: "How can I make the most money in the shortest amount of time so I can buy bigger ship that cost more money so I can make even more money and buy a bigger ship" It's: "How can I PvP and keep myself in PvP ship without having to farm or do boring PvE stuff" So yes, join FW and just PvP in plexes, try to wait out timer if they're about to finish, you'll fund your PvP and then some. The only problem with joining a FW faction is that you get a bunch of "blues" that you shoudn't shoot. Stay neutral and you can shoot everybody, but then no ISKies.
Yet in the real world he will earn very little isk by trying to PvP and complete plex's at the same time simply because true 1 v 1 does not exist.
Try as he might in his little merlin but 99/100 he will be out gunned by people in better ships / multiple people / people using boosting alts.
Also at no point did I say he must buy bigger ships.
The simple fact is that if he uses 2 different ships, one purely for plex'ing and one for PvP he will be able to earn more isk quicker.
This in turn will mean he can PvP more.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Repeat 0ffenders
571
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Posted - 2014.06.13 18:41:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Elusive Panda wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
What is the point?
You really don't get it, his priorities are not: "How can I make the most money in the shortest amount of time so I can buy bigger ship that cost more money so I can make even more money and buy a bigger ship" It's: "How can I PvP and keep myself in PvP ship without having to farm or do boring PvE stuff" So yes, join FW and just PvP in plexes, try to wait out timer if they're about to finish, you'll fund your PvP and then some. The only problem with joining a FW faction is that you get a bunch of "blues" that you shoudn't shoot. Stay neutral and you can shoot everybody, but then no ISKies. Yet in the real world he will earn very little isk by trying to PvP and complete plex's at the same time simply because true 1 v 1 does not exist. Try as he might in his little merlin but 99/100 he will be out gunned by people in better ships / multiple people / people using boosting alts. Also at no point did I say he must buy bigger ships. The simple fact is that if he uses 2 different ships, one purely for plex'ing and one for PvP he will be able to earn more isk quicker. This in turn will mean he can PvP more. You have no idea what you're talking about.
A PVP-fit Merlin can 'plex' much better than any frig with useless warp core stabs. Especially in Kronos. |
Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
0
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Posted - 2014.06.13 18:48:00 -
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You can kite in a plex with a merlin with a AB, only thing is missile boats and drone boats do mean damage to your tank.(merlin) |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs
Monkeys with Guns.
235
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Posted - 2014.06.13 19:18:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
Yet in the real world he will earn very little isk by trying to PvP and complete plex's at the same time simply because true 1 v 1 does not exist.
Reading that makes me assume you have never been a proper FW pilot.
Doing plexes while hunting people makes you more than enough ISK so that you never have to actually grind as long as you are fine flying cost effective ships. I know that because that is exactly the way I do it. |
Sky' Darkstar
Dark Star Operations.
24
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Posted - 2014.06.13 19:55:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I'd suggest not listening to the farmers and instead trying to make ISK in a way that actually involves others... and fun.
Or at least one of these two.
Oh and don't waste ISK on more expensve equipment to make more money.
That's stupid. Like minmaxers do, who gather isk to spend it to gather more ISK.
People aren't that smart so beware of who you ask about advice.
May I please pour a bucket of freezing ice cold water on your avatar?
Please?
-Sky' |
Hazzard
Chaotic Dynamics
83
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Posted - 2014.06.13 20:14:00 -
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Don't need much money for a T1 ship. Just goto a level 4 mission hub and probe scan for drones with no ships around. (they are everywhere since people forget them all the time.) Then warp to drones and scoop them. Free isk. Rinse/repeat a few times and you have more then enough isk to get a new ship with little effort. |
Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
0
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Posted - 2014.06.13 21:08:00 -
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No salvaging, it's a waste of my time, something I don't have much of. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
7985
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Posted - 2014.06.13 21:18:00 -
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Well if you don't want to do mission running (which I like and pays good), and PI doesn't bring in enough for you... other than running three characters to make good isk, than maybe marketing? You could always drop in a plex to train a second character for a month, which is plenty of time to set up a decent marketing alt. Later you can always expand that training time to include hauling and even PI if you want, or scout skills. FW is a good way to go though. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
2268
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Posted - 2014.06.14 00:21:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:All I am saying is that its a hell of a lot easier to do what the farmers do as you will earn a lot more isk in a much shorter time period which leaves more time to go pew pew Exactly the point.
You simply get this part wrong.
Not only is it the thinking of a working drone ...
... (work hours for money, spend money for hours pvp) ...
... it's also simply not fun at all.
Nobody should ever believe he needs to work for hours, so he can have fun.
Especially not in a video game!
If you love being working drone, then that's fine by everybody else,
but the mindset shouldn't be spread around,
because those who don't know better will believe that this is how it works in EVE ONLINE ...
... and then they leave!
This crap costs us thousands of new players.
People should have fun when they make isk!
Life is not a spreadsheet!
The case of the bottomless dress.
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Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
860
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Posted - 2014.06.14 02:18:00 -
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I scanned down a hacking site the other day and warped to it cloaked. A heron warped in moments later. I was already in warp to station to get Power Rifter-¬ out of the stable.
Landed back at the site and asploded him. Pod too.
From his point of view he got jumped seconds into starting the hacking mini game, with no probes of any kind on dscan. Just dps from nowhere.
He was about a month old, this is my favourite kind of 1v1 in lowsec.
Generally lowsec is as empty as null, then the FW systems are clowntown on uppers. Any whines about numbers, ecm, awoxing are just the sound of the defeated mourning their failure.
PS. Faction frigate gank fit is superior to assault frigate. I have T1 frigate hulls that can waste an assault frigate but die in seconds to high damage faction. Also drugs and links make things crazy too.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
NoThisIsntItAtAll MakeIt MorePSSSHHHH
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:28:00 -
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Create an alt and mine in high-sec while you PVP. You'll make more mining than you'll lose in that same amount of time.
It's recommended to be pretty much always be mining while playing EVE, as it's something you can start easily and just leave alone for 10 minutes at a time (or 30 mins if you don't mind being ganked sometimes). Then it takes all of 10 seconds to restart it for another round. Reshipping after a PVP loss takes more effort tbh. |
Jur Tissant
Hemah Industries
82
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Posted - 2014.06.15 02:47:00 -
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There are very many things which you should not do near Jita. I'd say PI is one of them.
That said, PI is a great source of income. For me it fully funds my monthly PLEX. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague
The Bastion
1290
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Posted - 2014.06.15 03:20:00 -
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Find the money making thing you enjoy most and do it.
If there's nothing you enjoy find the most afk thing you can do (anoms, ice mining, etc) and do it while doing work, watching movies, whatever.
If you can't do that, sell plex.
Eventually get enough isk to out into something semi passive like trade, pi, reaction farm, bpo research, etc.
Or just create the next somerblink. |
Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
The Scourge.
0
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Posted - 2014.06.18 19:10:00 -
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I've been spending my time in lowsec a fair bit trying to get fights, killed a harbinger with a couple of friends in frigates and cruisers when going into null and managed to get a myrmidon. |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated
Executive Outcomes
272
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Posted - 2014.06.19 08:22:00 -
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The easiest way to PvP, even profiting from it to the point of making PvE irrelevant, is to be what I call a 'line pilot' for a large null sec alliance. Virtually all alliances worth joining will have at the very least an SRP in place. Most will also freely hand out any support ship needed for a fleet such as Ceptors and Dictors or Logi. Since losses are covered, most alliance mates will also be generous with their personal ships in an effort to get you in fleet.
For the most part, SRP's work by you buying a 'doctrine' ship (there is usually some freedom in fitting to accommodate varying skill levels) up front, then if it is lost during 'official business' it will be replaced or isk reimbursed to your wallet. Some alliances sweeten the deal by offering 'bro' roles extra isk to actually turn a profit from losses. Logi, for example, is often reimbursed at over 100% ship cost.
For really expensive 'ships of the line' such as shiny T3's and blinged battleships, alliances may offer a subsidy if the ship is bought in-house from contracts. That benefits an internal supplier as well as offsets the steep buy-in cost of top end ships that still might be blapped right off the field.
Over the years I've said it many times- learn to fly an Interdictor and you can fly in every PvP that undocks in null sec. Alliances that don't simply hand out Dictors aren't worth applying to. Care bear all you want between fleets and hoard isk till your pod turns blue- no one will care if you show up to fleets, and show up with nothing more than a T2 Destroyer.
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Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1934
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Posted - 2014.06.19 10:09:00 -
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Beg for ISK in a major system... the smack will fly in Local like monkey poop at the zoo, but it's ridiculous how much ISK beggars make.
"Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe to staff how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
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Heinrich Erquilenne
Foundation Cutting-Edge
2
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Posted - 2014.06.19 13:41:00 -
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AFK mining & stealing cargo. I've done it with a venture only, and being a new player I've still earned something like 80M. Let alone the gifts from everywhere I received. I just fit my venture with a kiting fit and let's roll for 30 mins of fun with me watching a video or doing the laundry. 
Planning to get a procurer with 80+ eHPs for the lulz. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2791
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Posted - 2014.06.19 13:53:00 -
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Amernia Osbourne wrote:So I'm a merlin pilot and I'm looking for ways to fund my pvp without the much needed grinding of missions.
Should I train into PI and set up planets in lowsec near jita? And how much would my net income per day be?
PLEX. They cost less than $20 and get you over 700 million ISK. You can save that much money just by spending time doing good comparative shopping for food and other day-to-day items you buy, and the ISK per hour doing so will be better than most any in-game activity.
The only reason to make ISK in-game is because you enjoy doing ISK making activities in-game.
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Lychenko Kumamato
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.06.19 20:45:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Amernia Osbourne wrote:So I'm a merlin pilot and I'm looking for ways to fund my pvp without the much needed grinding of missions.
Should I train into PI and set up planets in lowsec near jita? And how much would my net income per day be? PLEX. They cost less than $20 and get you over 700 million ISK. You can save that much money just by spending time doing good comparative shopping for food and other day-to-day items you buy, and the ISK per hour doing so will be better than most any in-game activity. The only reason to make ISK in-game is because you enjoy doing ISK making activities in-game.
That. Or simply pay your sub the traditional way and allocate absolutely minimal effort to scrounging up isk plus acquire a taste for flying efficiently.
I've been subbed since 2009, never been space rich, but never broke either. I don't have any pve alts, nor do I take part in any isk-grinding activities. I simply pay my sub in cash, pick up the odd rat spawn on roams, loot my victims if they're carrying somehting of value that's small enough to fit in my hold, and occasionally ransom someone if it seems like they'll pay up.
I tend to avoid the zerg corps that have big fat ship-replacement programs so I'm not on that dole either. The real secret to staying shipped, the same secret to everything in eve, is flying smart and calculating risk. If you're one of those guys who thinks it's all about space honor and gudfites, prepare to pay the price of losing your ships more often. That's just opportunity cost. Don't get me wrong. I love those pilots. They are the source of a lot of my kills. But they ought to know, if they don't already, that jumping into long-odds is essentially gambling with your ship and implants in exchange for the thrills. Those people have my respect, but it's a playstyle I don't want to try and emulate.
But if you want to get kills, enjoy doing whatever you like, and not bother yourself regularly with the wallet; simply apply some common sense to what you do in space. You don't have to be a risk-averse bear to refreain from flushing billions down the toilet on a regular basis. |
Boyamin
Filthy Peasants
2
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Posted - 2014.06.20 06:03:00 -
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Amernia Osbourne wrote:No salvaging, it's a waste of my time, something I don't have much of.
not sure if it counts as salvaging, but I met someone who earnt his first billion in two weeks going to the busiest FW systems (amamake/OMS) with a cheap tristan, set his overview up to dscan T2 drones that people left behind, and picked them up after fights... wish I had a known that when I started. |
Anomaly One
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
136
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:04:00 -
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join a pirate corp that ganks freighters
or join fw
or do both
yea do both
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
1912
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:22:00 -
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Jur Tissant wrote:There are very many things which you should not do near Jita. I'd say PI is one of them.
That said, PI is a great source of income. For me it fully funds my monthly PLEX.
How many alts are you running to PLEX from PI?
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Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
The Scourge.
0
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:47:00 -
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He could've built factory planets without extractors and buying raw materials and refining it at a planet |
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