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Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:26:00 -
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So I'm a merlin pilot and I'm looking for ways to fund my pvp without the much needed grinding of missions.
Should I train into PI and set up planets in lowsec near jita? And how much would my net income per day be? |

Victor Andall
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:30:00 -
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Thanks to CCP XZibit You can fund your PVP while doing PVP in your PVP by PVP-ing if you do some plexing in FW. Plus the loot everyone you kill drops.
I wouldn't recommend doing solo FW in a T1 frigate, though. I recommend a Faction Navy Frigate, at the very least, or an Assault Frigate. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7022
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:31:00 -
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I suggest Faction Warfare. That can keep you in your ships fairly easily.
That or join a corp with a frigate SRP. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:31:00 -
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Join Faction Warfare, make ISK while PVP-ing. You can easily get a few 100 Million ISK per month without even trying to make ISK. |

Amernia Osbourne
State-N-War
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:52:00 -
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Well, I have a couple thousand LP in FW but I wasn't very into the whole FW pvp, and I'm pretty new to pvp. I've been doing 1v1's so far to get used to it, then I'll move on to small gangs. But I want to know one of the best ways to be self-sufficient without relying on a corp or other people to fund what I lose. |

Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.06.13 12:53:00 -
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Everything here is true but the case of "you need a faction or T2 frig". Merlins are perfectly able to capture most of the FW complexes when you dont get a fight and when you get a fight they-¦re perfectly able to put up a fight. You might want to set up a base in lowsec though. You will still die a lot and the worst thing that can happen to you, that would totally kill your fun, is having to go back to highsec every time you have to reship. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:17:00 -
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Gank and take loot. Wait for others to gank and steal that one.
Latter works great solo, usually doesn't take a lot of time too.
Hek-Dodixie route. Try it. Successfully stole a few hundred mill already in less than an hour. Just needs the same patience gankers have. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Elmonky
Titans of The Short Bus Universal Consortium
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:29:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Gank and take loot. Wait for others to gank and steal that one.
Latter works great solo, usually doesn't take a lot of time too.
Hek-Dodixie route. Try it. Successfully stole a few hundred mill already in less than an hour. Just needs the same patience gankers have.
One of the better SP avatars if i'm honest. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2258
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:32:00 -
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Thanks. They're all constantly changing so I can improve.
I like this one too. Even resculpted finally for a PLEX. You should see the others, they are nice too. I really like Felicity's new portrait and Solitaire's.
Not to mention all the others...
Oh and my boobs finally look and feel like boobs! xD The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Prince Kobol
1946
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:32:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:
I wouldn't recommend doing solo FW in a T1 frigate, though. I recommend a Faction Navy Frigate, at the very least, or an Assault Frigate.
Lol.. this is what we call bad advice.
You can farm FW plex's all day long in a T1 frig and a couple of warp stabs and only lose your ship if you are half asleep, very drunk, high, dead and even then its difficult.
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Victor Andall
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:33:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:Everything here is true but the case of "you need a faction or T2 frig". Merlins are perfectly able to capture most of the FW complexes when you dont get a fight and when you get a fight they-¦re perfectly able to put up a fight. You might want to set up a base in lowsec though. You will still die a lot and the worst thing that can happen to you, that would totally kill your fun, is having to go back to highsec every time you have to reship.
I wasn't arguing against them not being capable, but generally, you stand a better chance to win a fight in a higher quality frigate. I used to use an Atron, then a Comet (with which I managed to score a 1v2 kill) and as of a few hours ago I can fly an Ishkur and I plan on doing just that. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do? |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2258
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:42:00 -
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I'd suggest not listening to the farmers and instead trying to make ISK in a way that actually involves others... and fun.
Or at least one of these two.
Oh and don't waste ISK on more expensve equipment to make more money. That's stupid. Like minmaxers do, who gather isk to spend it to gather more ISK.
People aren't that smart so beware of who you ask about advice. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2258
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:46:00 -
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Oh I forgot to mention.
What you need to look out for are Vexors sitting at gates.
These mostly are gankers and you can always find one on the hek-dodixie route. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Prince Kobol
1946
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:49:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I'd suggest not listening to the farmers and instead trying to make ISK in a way that actually involves others... and fun.
Or at least one of these two.
Oh and don't waste ISK on more expensve equipment to make more money. That's stupid. Like minmaxers do, who gather isk to spend it to gather more ISK.
People aren't that smart so beware of who you ask about advice.
Why?
At the end of the day if you want to earn isk you might as well do it in the easiest and quickest way possible as it leaves more time to go pew pew.
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:51:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
Lol.. this is what we call bad advice.
You can farm FW plex's all day long in a T1 frig and a couple of warp stabs and only lose your ship if you are half asleep, very drunk, high, dead and even then its difficult.
He wasn-¦t asking how to waste his time. He wants to pvp and fund his pvp while doing pvp. You cant pvp in a stabbed frigate. You dont need stabs to capture complexes.
You take a pvp frigate and go out and hunt people in complexes. From time to time you will find one that is almost finished and take your time finishing it.
Why?
Prince Kobol wrote: At the end of the day if you want to earn isk you might as well do it in the easiest and quickest way possible as it leaves more time to go pew pew.
You dont grind and then pewpew. You pewpew and make money at the same time! Dont waste your time with something that is not fun. |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:53:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
Lol.. this is what we call bad advice.
You can farm FW plex's all day long in a T1 frig and a couple of warp stabs and only lose your ship if you are half asleep, very drunk, high, dead and even then its difficult.
He wasn-¦t asking how to waste his time. He wants to pvp and fund his pvp while doing pvp. You cant pvp in a stabbed frigate. You dont need stabs to capture complexes. You take a pvp frigate and go out and hunt people in complexes. From time to time you will find one that is almost finished and take your time finishing it.
What is the point?
All I am saying is that its a hell of a lot easier to do what the farmers do as you will earn a lot more isk in a much shorter time period which leaves more time to go pew pew |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:55:00 -
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Amernia Osbourne wrote:Well, I have a couple thousand LP in FW but I wasn't very into the whole FW pvp, and I'm pretty new to pvp. I've been doing 1v1's so far to get used to it, then I'll move on to small gangs. But I want to know one of the best ways to be self-sufficient without relying on a corp or other people to fund what I lose. Yeah, you still want FW. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.06.13 13:56:00 -
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Amernia Osbourne wrote:Well, I have a couple thousand LP in FW but I wasn't very into the whole FW pvp, and I'm pretty new to pvp. I've been doing 1v1's so far to get used to it, then I'll move on to small gangs. But I want to know one of the best ways to be self-sufficient without relying on a corp or other people to fund what I lose. If by 1v1s you mean duels and if you want to stay in highsec, Solecist's advice is good.
If you're thinking of lowsec, you'll probably get most 1v1s in FW warzone complexes anyway, so actually joining FW would give you 'free' ISK as well. |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
566
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:01:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Charlie Firpol wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
Lol.. this is what we call bad advice.
You can farm FW plex's all day long in a T1 frig and a couple of warp stabs and only lose your ship if you are half asleep, very drunk, high, dead and even then its difficult.
He wasn-¦t asking how to waste his time. He wants to pvp and fund his pvp while doing pvp. You cant pvp in a stabbed frigate. You dont need stabs to capture complexes. You take a pvp frigate and go out and hunt people in complexes. From time to time you will find one that is almost finished and take your time finishing it. What is the point? All I am saying is that its a hell of a lot easier to do what the farmers do as you will earn a lot more isk in a much shorter time period which leaves more time to go pew pew The OP said he's trying 1v1s.
It takes time to find 1v1s, you usually have to roam a few systems, dscan plexes, check for a good match trying to avoid 1v many, or sit in a plex and wait for someone to come in.
If you don't want to 'farm' ISK but get just what you need to fund your pvp, fighting+plexing at the same time is actually the most time-efficient and less boring way to do it.
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
234
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:07:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
What is the point?
All I am saying is that its a hell of a lot easier to do what the farmers do as you will earn a lot more isk in a much shorter time period which leaves more time to go pew pew
All you-¦re saying is "Do as the farmers do. You will hate yourself and the game after 30 minutes and quit EVE because you think it is soo boring" |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
7023
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:09:00 -
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Oh, you can do what I do, and run trade scams. That's relatively lucrative, and it's not really much work. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:10:00 -
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Buy PLEX from CCP. Sell PLEX on market. Swim in Merlins all month long. "i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh |

Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1153
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:15:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Buy PLEX from CCP. Sell PLEX on market. Swim in Merlins all month long. This is definitely the best advice if you are just starting out. Buy a plex and join RvB for a couple of months. Then go to lowsec. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5303
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:16:00 -
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Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2259
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:19:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:20:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need.
Missioning is more cost effective and quicker though
"If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "Question asked, insults exchanged, solutions given, face palms had, problem solved, off topic posts posted, thread locked." - ISD Ezwal |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2259
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:27:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need. Missioning is more cost effective and quicker though I know what you are hinting at, but mining I can do without much attention, all day.
So while mining on one account I can play on another. Running missions is not what I consider playing.
Of course, waiting for a gank to happen and stealing loot works too. It takes as much attention as mining and is quite lucrative. More than mining.
Maybe I'll concentrate more on that. I love playing with others forcing others to play with me! :D The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1115
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:27:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need. Missioning is more cost effective and quicker though
Less AFK tho. |

Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2259
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:28:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Or be boring and mine and then build your own
Lol only j/k
is really DOLAN I'm actually thinking about mining to save the ISK instead buying all the ships we need. Missioning is more cost effective and quicker though Less AFK tho. Pretty much. While mining I can still play the game, but with missions ... nope. The case of the bottomless dress. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=349499
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
566
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Posted - 2014.06.13 14:30:00 -
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Trading is the ultimate ISK-machine for the lazy dude or dudette.
You don't even have to be logged on to make money. |
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